This is the second time this has happened and I cant figure it out. I was running the 2.17 rom the first time. Then I now have Shoguns new beta rom and same thing has happened. I cant text or anything including mms, but that has never worked since I got this phone. When you try to open it nothing happens at all, like it ignores you or something. Other than that and the bluetooth not working anymore its all good.
Any ideas before doing another hard reset?
Dave
Assmanof said:
This is the second time this has happened and I cant figure it out. I was running the 2.17 rom the first time. Then I now have Shoguns new beta rom and same thing has happened. I cant text or anything including mms, but that has never worked since I got this phone. When you try to open it nothing happens at all, like it ignores you or something. Other than that and the bluetooth not working anymore its all good.
Any ideas before doing another hard reset?
Dave
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what all apps have you installed since installing the roms?
I installed all the apps on the ext rom installer but this happened before those were installed. The only programs I can think of that are the same is Opera, Total Commander, and tcpmp. If it helps any I was messing around with Omap trying to see if I could squeeze out a few more mhz and I froze it up. Come to think of it I cant soft reset unless the storage card is removed or else it will freeze on the omap program. Anyways I dont see how the entire messenging program stopped working. Any way this could be related?
DAVE
Just in case anybody cares about this thread I found out some strange info. With the storage card out everything works again. Put it back in and its all messed up. Also I cannot boot it up with the card in the phone anymore it hangs on the omap screen. Any way to make that screen not come up everytime? I couldve sworn it didnt used to pop up everytime I rebooted before. Card is not bad it works fine. I wonder if the program that turns the phone into a card reader has something to do with it?
Dave
Happen to me few time. Just start messanger from startup menu and it will work again.
I have had a similar problem with Messaging. Usually it works fine, but sometimes nothing will open Messaging will not open with any method, from the Today Screen item (it highlights, but never opens), the Mail buttonhas no effect, and the Start menu item has no effect. I found that deleting the Inbox.mstxxxxxx folder from the storage card would allow it to open again. Also, the phone would not see the MiniSD card, and create a "Storage Card" folder then the real storage card would be called "Storage Card 2" and that would also cause Messanger problems. This has happened in the past on this phone as well, without any custom ROMs and with multiple MiniSD cards. I took out a reg hack to show the ext ROM in the file system and it seemed to help the problem.
Just FYI this is on an 8125 with a SanDisk 1gb MiniSD card and Shoguns current public ROM and the 2.47.11 radio.
I ended up doing the hard reset anyways, but its good to know there may be a fix for this. I did see the files but they would not open and said the program was missiing or something like that. Its all good now thouugh, but thanks for the info. Im sure itll happen again.
dave
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I'm not sure what happened, but I was using PIE to view a website. I followed a link from another site and the new window opened about 50% and never loaded. After about 10 minutes of just sitting there I did a soft reset. Now when I go to use PIE it loads about 5% of a page and hangs / freezes and causes me to have to soft reset.
I deleted all cookies, temp files and history but no go. I looked in the \startup\ dir and there isn't anything new in there. There aren't any programs running either.
Everything else on the phone is working fine as far as I know.
Any ideas on how to get my PIE back?
Opps! Sorry, I just noticed I posted this in UPGRADING and it shouldn't have been there!
Same here but I am using NetFront v3.3 and Opera Mini. Let me know if resolved this problem.
I think I might have fix it. I fired it up and it appears to be working better now.
My OPERA 8.65 worked fine, and so did everything else.
What I had done was install Schap's Advancedconfig. After DESTALLING it (because there wasn't anything in there that you cant tweak by hand) it didn't reset the original values!
Anyway, the Glyph cache was changed and so was the file system cache and
file system filter cache. I guess it was TOO BIG and was greezing it. I changed the limi for GLYPHCACHE down to 16384 and did a soft reset and it seems to be back to normal.
Let me know if you get yours fixed.
usually pie freezes if u set the cookies to be stored on the storage card instead of device. It is also known that pie freezes when you use flash player 7 for ppc.
I've had cookies saved to storage since day 1 and never had any problems. I have read other's reporting the same thing as you suggested though. But for me, I have never experienced this problem.
if you have att tilt...what i did was install the removehiddenproxy.cab and it made the PIE freeze go away...you can find it in dutty's collection of cabs in the regular kaiser forums....what ROM are you using because some ROMs use the PIE scroll fix cab within the ROM and it has been known to make PIE freeze on most ATT Tilt devices...
just move all your temp internet files/cache/etc back to the device storage and it will work.
That solved my hanging issues.... I had to hard reset earlier on when I din know what to do....
Nice,
Was havin the exact same issue,and did have my temp stuff on the storage card-that did the trick!!! moved them back to the device and BINGO-working great.
Just working away on my brand new Treo Pro - came across the same problem. Never had this issue with any other phone before.
When Cookies, Temp Internet Files and History were moved to storage card - I locked up. move them back and it works perfectly.
I put JUST the Temporary Internet Files on the storage card and left history and cookies on the device - that seems to work also. Guess I will run with that.
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Just working away on my brand new Treo Pro - came across the same problem. Never had this issue with any other phone before.
When Cookies, Temp Internet Files and History were moved to storage card - I locked up. move them back and it works perfectly.
I put JUST the Temporary Internet Files on the storage card and left history and cookies on the device - that seems to work also. Guess I will run with that.
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How do you move them back?
I am running a tilt that is giving me the message "voice command has quit due to low memory" a few seconds after pressing the VC button. I have an 8gb Sandisk micro card in it with about 2 gb of music and the remainder is movies. Voice command will generally work fine with the card removed.
When viewing the memory page and starting Voice Command with the card in the slot, available memory goes from about 68mb free to about 66mb free, nothing close to wiping out the memory
Originally when this started I could clear out the IE history and it would be fine - no such luck anymore.
I have gone through the Kaiser Tweaks turning card management stuff on and off and have found no combintion that helps.
Is this an irreperable problem with large cards and voice command, or is there some registry hack that can help me? Not much on this subject on the forums, I hope I am not the only one experiencing this...
Thanks
Which version of Voice Command / ROM are you running?
Voice Command 1.5 does not work properly with WM6.1 ROMs.
I'm using version 1.6
I just bought it about 2 weeks ago.
It worked fine for the first week, adding nothing of significance to the storage card or installing additional software. What set it off was downloading a large file over WiFi directly to the storage card. I immediately deleted it and checked the disk over in windows, but it still kept happening. clearing out the memory worked for a day or two, now nothing will stop the error aside from removing the memory card.
Also...
The ROM is the 6.0 ROM shipped with the Tilt.
Here's a few things to try:
1) Uninstall / Reinstall Voice Command (kind of obvious, probably already tried)
2) Backup your data on the SD card, and then format it
3) Perform a hard reset on your Tilt and start over.**
**Note: This step will erase EVERYTHING on your device. You can use a program called PIMBackup to save your contacts, call logs, appointments, text messages, and much more. You can then restore them once the hard reset is done.
If you make it to step 3 and do not know how to do a hard reset, check out the Wiki link in my signature.
MSVC 1.6 Low memory problem
I am having this same problem of the low memory error ever since I installed a cooked WM 6.1 ROM with MSVC 1.6 baked into it. Since then, I have flashed several WM 6 ROMs on my HERMES and the same problem always comes up.
I never had this problem with the MSVC 1.6 since I first bought it over a year ago. Now no matter what ROM I flash, when I install my purchased MSVC 1.6, this low memory error plagues me.
This is not just a Kaiser problem, guys. Thought I would let you know. There have been a number of posts in the Hermes forum about this. It's driving me nuts. No solution found yet, and I have searched and searched here and on the internet.
If I find a solution, I will come back and let you all know.
Ben
Well...
I did the card reformat and replaced all the data, and it worked...for a while. Now it is back to doing the same thing. I am going to retry the format, try it for a few days and progressively add files to it. If number of files is not the problem, I'll reset all the way back. I have been using the tilt a lot for listening to streaming audio, maybe that has something to do with it (temp files in places I can't find, or heat buildup?)
Good to know my device is not just a lemon at least - Ben, does your problem happen all the time or only with the storage card installed?
Thanks for the help!
Philly Fan in your Kaiser forum also suffered with this issue, and I PM'ed him to see if he found a solution.
Taking my card out, MSVC seems to run without giving me the "has quit because of low memory" error. I don't understand what the memory card would have to do with this, but there you go.
Next I will try reformatting the card, and let you know how it goes. I presume you added programs to your device after reformatting, right, and then the problem returned? Did you install one or more of those programs onto your SD card?
I wonder if doing that is causing our devices to cause this problem? Funny it only now is happening to me after a year of using MSVC.
I will be back to you later on this. I hope someone else chimes in. This problem is really bizarre.
Ben
Reformatted my storage card, reinstalled MSVC 1.6. So far so good. Thanks NotATreoFan and Jaeger for the help. Will advise if any further issues.
Regards,
Ben
so far my second reformat is still working...
I have not wiped the memory on the PDA though - I have only been wiping the storage card. I have no programs installed to it and I haven't installed any new software during the time that I have been experiencing this problem. I'm replacing all the same exact files when I reformat.
There are a few things that I did on the tilt between the time that voice command worked and when it stopped again (from intensive wireless streaming of large playlists, to updating the WM library that packs all that metadata crap on the card) I'm going to do some troubleshooting this week and try to isolate something as the cause, see how many days I can go before it quits.
I really hope someone at MS is noticing these posts...
Voice command gone wild ( not hot )
I have a tilt. at&t rom ver. 1.57.502.2 radio ver 1.27.12.11. 3 day ago I loaded my 2 gig card with music all the way to only 3.3 MB remaining. I deleted some songs and have about 131 MB now. ever since then any contact vioce command i request loads programs that also have voice commands assigned. I would like to keep the songs but I need voice command more. So I guess I delete most of the songs and see if this helps Voice command. If It fixes my problem I will post again the results. JJ
I had this problem too. The solution was to turn off media player voice command so I can't use it for music control. It keeps a voice tag in memory for every song so if you have too many it runs out. VC was never designed for that many songs since cards bigger than 2 GB are new.
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Wilhelm I did not have voice assigned to any of my music players. but I did have it assigned to pictures & video application. maybe same rule applies. Anyway when I looked to see if I assigned VC to windows Media or others players I did notice that all the contacts that I HAD assigned VC to were no longer listed. I reassigned five contacts again, and now it is working again. So this looks like a fix but need to figure why it happened in the first place? Hope this helps out there. JJ
Yesterday my girlfriend told me all of a sudden her programs on her storage card stopped working. Well come to find out, it was like everything related to windows on the card was deleted somehow (program files, application data, etc.). She used to have the same card in a flip phone so the folders from that like music and pictures still exist. She hasn't changed anything on her phone, I usually do all that for her, so she wouldn't have done anything in that department.
Anyone heard of this happening before?
Any help would be greatful, I would like to possibly retrieve some files before I reformat the card.
Thanks in advance.
Step one: Buy a SD reader. You can get one on Ebay, Radioshack, etc. Very cheap. 5-25 dollars. I think 25 is even pushing it.
Step two: see if you can retrieve files with reader
Step three: after retrieving said files, format your SD card.
You forgot step four:
don't let girlfriends use technology and don't trust anyone when they say nothing happened
j/k
Very true. She sometimes can be a little thick, but with Windows mobile, who knows what can happen.
I've had the exact same thing happen to me. AT&T Tilt and 6GB Sandisk MicroSD.
File Explorer on the phone shows nothing on the card. Tried reading the card with a card reader on the PC and it also shows the card is blank. However, the Tilt's memory usage program still shows 3GB of memory is used on the card.
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Anyone heard of this happening before?
Thanks in advance.
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Same problem here (few times). Even change the SD card. Maybe something in power managment (kaiser tweak?)
Same problem here - lost a TomTom map just randomly - copied map back on, same files, same path.... still using and extra 1gb....
Good stuff...
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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oui oui said:
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
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Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
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I have not heard about this plugin either. Interested!
I have had the same issue having lost tom tom maps pictures etc. I have actually installed the artemis card coruption fix as I had that phone b4 this one & it still has happened to me a few times. I am going to format card one last time & the phone from default & see if this occurs again, as I believe it to be caused due to excess heat from the device but that is only a hunch as each time it has occurred the phone has been red hot prior to this.
I have at&t tilt with windows mobile 6.1..I can't view any txt messages or e-mails when I click on the icons in the today screen nothing happens..also from the menu when I go to the MESSAGE ICON and click on it nothing happens.
I'm having the exact same problem, and it just started today. I didn't even know it was happening until someone called me and said "why aren't you responding to my text messages".
I've done several soft resets, to no avail.
I haven't installed any new programs recently.
Earlier this morning, before I knew about the messaging problem, I couldn't connect to the internet. But a soft reset fixed that.
So what would cause the messaging portion of the phone to just suddenly stop working and acting like it doesn't exist?
Euklid, with a little help from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2563559#post2563559 I think i fixed it. It seems that apparently sometimes files associated with tmail.exe (the messaging program), that are on the storage card sometimes become corrupt. So the solution is deleting the folder where these files are. Don't worry, a new folder will be created. The folder is named "Inbox.mst########.##########" (#=various numbers).
Worked for me, hopefully it works for you.
I had a similar problem and found rebooting with the storage card out (only happened when I set attachments to be stored on the SD card) solved the problem. Popped the card back in then and it was fine.
HTH
Ok sorry I didn't see the replies so i was desperate..I backed up my contacts using SPB Backup...i went to settings and CLEAR STORAGE..that seemed to have cleared everything and reinstalled the software..now my phone runs SUPER FAST and everything works..i had to restore my contacts that i backed up..and i had to reinstall all my programs..if u do this make sure u have all your contacts/apps etc backed up..im happy now cuz my tilt was going REALLY SLOW and not it seems alot faster..;p
Removing Storage Card Worked for me
I had the same problem - followed advise above, removed SD card, rebooted, inserted SD card, all is well. Thanks!
IT Worked for Me !
Guys, thank you very much for your help. i Almost lost hope.
I have an At&T tilt , upgraded to ROM version 3.57.502.2 WWE from HTC website a few months ago.It worked fine (although i hate threaded messages).
Then Suddenly 1 week ago, i couldn't receive any SMS (text messages) and the Messaging would not open altogether. I also wasn't able to launch Active Sync on the PDA. Whenever i tried to launch Active sync, it opened for less than a second then closed.
I followed the instructions in this post and deleted the last Inbox.mstxxxxxxx folder only and everything went fine. It seems this folder was corrupt
Thanks again ..... you saved the day !
All i did was remove the inbox.#########.######### in the storage card and it worked fine.
deleting 'inbox.mstxxx' does it
After all the soft reboots, etc, removed the sd card and messaging worked again. Deleted the empty folder 'inbox.mstxxx' from sd card in PC and all's well. Thanks
It Keeps Coming Back
I also had this problem (see thread from today "Inbox Attachments Screws Up Messaging" as I can't post links). My deal is that the folder keeps coming back?!?! How do I stop this?
HTC Viva Solved
Thank you everyone.
It worked for me in my HTC Viva:
1. Delete the Inbox.mst........ from the SD Card
2. Soft reset
3. Working!
Hi everyone..
I am a somewhat profiecient Tilt user.. had a few windows mobile phones before.. and had my tilt over a year.. I never had any problems with the WM 6.0 rom so I never upgraded it.... But now I ahve a problem... Today my GPS wasn;t locking on so I reset the phone, and as usualy it fixed the problem.. but now my messaging (and email) won;t work...
I have the HTC Home Installed (been installed a long time) and I use the buttons on the clock screen on it to access my MMS and Email... I went to send a txt and it did nothing.. I thought hte phone was froze.. but other stuff works.. I tried email next.. same problem... It also says the MSVC has encountered a problem and that is not working either.. it all happened at the same time....
The real problem is I have my phone EXACTLY how I wanted it.. with this tweek and that tweek... This program and that program.. this setting & that setting... sigh... I have an odd provider (Einstein PCS) so I had to set up all custom MMS, Email, Internet, and other setting that took a long time to get them all just "right"... I thought the SD card may have went, but other software that I know is on the SD card runs fine (including tomtom)... Any suggestions from anyone before I do hard reset? Please.. I don;t want to have to redo everything...
Retrace your steps
Hi
I have found that when something stops working after installing new software, if I uninstall any software, in the reverse order it was installed, this usually restores functionality. Uninstalling one piece of software at a time and running trials in between uninstallations usually helps to identify the culprit. If you haven't actually installed new software to co-inside with the failure then this advice is no good for you.
For future reference I would recommend using Sprite Backup (I think that the latest version is 6.5 and can be found on their website). With this software you can make a back up of your existing configuration prior to installing any new software. Then, if anything goes wrong you can just hard reset and run the backup file (stored as an .exe file) from the storage card and you'll get back to exactly where you were before the install.
Hope all that helps.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Thanks for the advice but I did nto install anything.... I will get that sprite backup though for future use... thank you.... What I did find this morning is this...
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/107262...&maxResults=20
It seems many other people have had MOST of the same problem... When I followed the directions and deleted the inbox om my SD card, it fixed everything... even the Microsoft Voice command.. no idea how they are related, but it must be.... The only problem is that now after doing all this research on new ROMs, I found one I want to try... now I gotta decide if I want to go through all that work if I don;t have to... I think I will do the sprite backup.. download a default at&T 6.0 rom if I can find one.. then TRY The new rom.. if I hate it.. install the default rom and resotre my settings.. Thansk for you help though
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Hi everyone..
I am a somewhat profiecient Tilt user.. had a few windows mobile phones before.. and had my tilt over a year.. I never had any problems with the WM 6.0 rom so I never upgraded it.... But now I ahve a problem... Today my GPS wasn;t locking on so I reset the phone, and as usualy it fixed the problem.. but now my messaging (and email) won;t work...
I have the HTC Home Installed (been installed a long time) and I use the buttons on the clock screen on it to access my MMS and Email... I went to send a txt and it did nothing.. I thought hte phone was froze.. but other stuff works.. I tried email next.. same problem... It also says the MSVC has encountered a problem and that is not working either.. it all happened at the same time....
The real problem is I have my phone EXACTLY how I wanted it.. with this tweek and that tweek... This program and that program.. this setting & that setting... sigh... I have an odd provider (Einstein PCS) so I had to set up all custom MMS, Email, Internet, and other setting that took a long time to get them all just "right"... I thought the SD card may have went, but other software that I know is on the SD card runs fine (including tomtom)... Any suggestions from anyone before I do hard reset? Please.. I don;t want to have to redo everything...
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Do you have your Einstein settings. I haven't been able to get my Fuze to connect reliably. I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks!