Just a simple question - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I'm planning on upgrading my sx66 to WM% today and I just wanted to know one thing; In case
something happens during or after the installation, will I be able to just hard reset the device and
restore it back to WM2003. I'm just a little worried because I just got this puppy yesterday and I
dont want to have a $400 silver brick if something happens.

I've gone back to WM2003 with no problems, then back to WM5 again. If you search though the Wiki theres a guide on how to 'downgrade' as well as upgrading.
The part of your device that allows you to upgrade to WM5 doesn't seem to get touched and is accessed without the OS, so even if your WM5 is completely screwed it shouldn't be too hard to sort things out.
Of course, everything has it's risks.

Thanks for the help, also what ROM do you recommended, theres about 4 or 5 in the upgrade section, kinda hard to tell which one is the most reliable.

Thanks for the help, also what ROM do you recommended, theres about 4 or 5 in the upgrade section, kinda hard to tell which one is the most reliable.
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Helmic_AKU3.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276915

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need help extremely new

ive posted before but really didnt get the answer i was looking for. all of this pocket pc smart phone stuff is new to me. i have the cingular 8125. my first pocket pc and it is all new to me. im trying to get the htc touchflo on my 8125. im like a baby learning how to walk haha as desperate as it sounds i need like a walk through of simple (non pocket pc savvy) how to install it all and everything like someone to hold my hand haha. sorry to sound so desperate and needy but any help is extremely appreciated.
First, we need to know a bit more info...is your phone locked or unlocked...stock rom, etc.
Secondly assuming everything is stock, you need to use the search button and search for lokiwiz, follow the directions explicitly.
Thirdly, search in the WM6 Wiz section for the rom that has the touchflo added...
I too was new and thought that if I said help I'm new, I'd be flooded with answers...I quickly discovered that the reasons the answers wouldn't come is because I didn't give enough info about my phone. A stock wizard is different from an unlocked wizard, which is different from an unlocked wizard running a rom from someones kitchen, and if your phone is a G4 then that's a whole different animal, etc...get the idea?? So to help, more info is needed about the phone itself. Power off, reboot...on the first page that pops up, there will be a few lines of info...copy those down with the numbers corresponding with it, then get back to us. "Knowing is half the battle" (famous philosopher=GI Joe). Hope this answer helps you.
thankyou.
i already unlocked my phone and went through the whole process im just not sure where to go from there.
ipl-2.26
spl-2.26
gsm-02.25.11
os-2.26.20.2
i just need to install the wm6 and toughflo im asuming i dont want to mess my phone up thats why im asking for help. thanks again.
AlexK
If you haven't flashed the T-Mobile OEM ROM yet and your IPL/SPL are still at 2.26, then you may not have unlocked your phone. I missed some of the reading first time around and this took me a while to catch, even though it was there in plain view. You may need to flash the Button ROM to get back to IPL 1.x as the lokiwiz only works with 1.x IPL.
Be carefull using the lokiwiz in the DOS window, and READ everything that comes up, especially notes like I/O error or unable to write, etc. . . If you try to flash a ROM and it appears that nothing has changed, then you're not unlocked, just going through the motions.
there is a thread here somewhere...unlocking for dummies or something like that...gives very detailed step by steps....follow this to the T. Then go to the WM6 threads section, choose the rom you want (download it), connect your phone via usb to the pc and fire up active sync. Run the loader to the rom you chose. The screen will go red and blue etc stripes and if done properly, a few minutes later it will say completed and reboot itself. DO NOT interrupt the loading process by disconnecting the usb before it's ready etc...re-install any third party apps or whatever, and you are good to go. NBo one can "hold your hand" you just need to try it until you do it. It's the only way to learn this stuff. Don't worry, I've thought I've bricked my phone so many times...MOST of the time, you can bring it back from the dead...unless you really fubar and rush things, don't read instructions properly, etc... good luck

T-Mobile UK

Been following this site for weeks and it is getting more popular eacha nd every time someone buys a Diamond phone, so keep up the good work.
I have finally decided to see what I can do with mine by upgrading the ROM and I would appriciate any advice you guys can give me as i am a totally newbie.
Here are the details:
It is on T-Mobile (UK)
Version -
1.37.110.3 WWE
06/20/08
1.00.25.03
Thanks
Hello there!
Not sure what you mean by upgrading the rom? Guess you mean applying a cooked rom?
A cooked rom is one thats been customised and is flashed over the top of your current rom, in your case probably a "stock" or out of the box/factory rom.
First thing to do in your case would be to upgrade the Radio. You may well need to run the HardSPL (I needed developer edition) and then apply the radio upgrade.
From then on, its up to you which cooked rom you run as they all have advantages and disadvantages. For example, im running the Diamond TLR rom as I don't like touchflo (i think its a gimmick that slows things down - drasticaly). Using this rom i'm able to uninstall touchflo and free up significant memory. This suits me down to the ground but not those who want to use touchflo!
Take a look at the wiki (mostly) and the Rom development sub-section of this Diamond section of the forums. As long as you follow the Wiki instructions on HardSPL and then use a rom specifically for a touch diamond, you should be fine.
Be very carefull though and DOUBLE check everything, one wrong flash program and you can destroy your phone.
Have fun!
p.s. Many people think that the factory 1.37.xx roms are the most stable, even more than the later versions. I'm running a TLR based 1.37something and I am very happy with it and never have to reboot my phone.
Got it....Its all here
Hi Lats... I've tried a variety of roms on my Compact IV and I have to say, me and my colleagues at work find that Swiftblades roms are pretty much as good as they come. He's now released version 5.0 and if you're still on the original T-mobile rom, then you'll notice one hell of a difference and improvement in speed and usability.
Go for it and don't worry if your concerned about warranty, there is a stock T-mobile rom floating around on the forum and instructions on how to return your Compact IV back to it's original state.
If you find the whole rom thing confusing, then take a look at this site:- www.modmydiamond.info It'll pretty much tell you everything.
Basically though, you'll find there are 3 phases to upgrading
1) HardSPL - In laymans terms, this pretty much opens the phone up for flashing roms. Most people seem to go for and recommend using Hard-SPL 1.40 Olinex Developers Edition-Unsigned. There are consequences to using an unsigned version, it means you could in theory download and install a dodgy untested Rom, but it's up to you to go for roms on the thread from reputable guys where you can see lots of other people have installed their tried and tested roms.
Once you've done this, you'll not need to do this again.
2) The Radio - This deals with the comms side of the phone, ie phone signal strength etc etc. It's pretty much been agreed by most people that v1.00.25.05 appears to be the best of the bunch.
3) Lastly choose a rom, there are half a dozen really good roms out there and many of them are down to personal choice. Many of them are customised too much for my liking. I chose Swifts as he pretty much keeps his clean and looking like a stock rom.
You'll only have to do the Hard-SPL once and probably the radio once, unless a better radio arrives. So once you've done all this, you can keep trying different roms without the need to do the Hard-SPL and radio all over again.
Hope this clarifies things a bit for you.
Good luck and have fun!
Thanks ever so much guys. I already feel alot more confident about this. Just one question... guide suggests the following:-
Manually enter the Bootloader by pressing the Power button, Camera button and performing a soft reset at the same time
Where is the camera button and it sounds as I need 3 hands to do this!
They're refering to the main round button below your screen in the middle of the 4 buttons, and yes you need 3 hands, but you can just about do it with 2
Let us know which ROM you upgrade to - I'm on the same ROM and radio as you are. Bit nervous about flashing the rom as my last phone (Vario II/Hermes) had to go back a month after I had it due to the screen alignment issues. After the warranty expired, I was flashing daily (lol) and yes, they do make a big difference.
I've got a copy of the UK Tmobile rom from this site, but cant remember the page now or what i typed in to get it... will try again later. It's called "RUU_Victor_TMO_UK_1.37.110.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship"
Lats said:
Thanks ever so much guys. I already feel alot more confident about this. Just one question... guide suggests the following:-
Manually enter the Bootloader by pressing the Power button, Camera button and performing a soft reset at the same time
Where is the camera button and it sounds as I need 3 hands to do this!
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That is for last resort methods only...
Ensure you are connnected via activesync when doing any flashing, remembering to hard reset again after every flash,
Yeah, most definetly I will let you know but I think it will be over the weekend now. I had a quick attempt to get bootloader going, but it don't look easy. Phone just resets everytime and just reboots back to normal.
If anyone has any tips on which buttons I need to press first or if there is any easier way of doing this, I'm listening.
Lats said:
Yeah, most definetly I will let you know but I think it will be over the weekend now. I had a quick attempt to get bootloader going, but it don't look easy. Phone just resets everytime and just reboots back to normal.
If anyone has any tips on which buttons I need to press first or if there is any easier way of doing this, I'm listening.
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If you want to flash any ROM - you dont need to manually enter boot loader to do so...
As I mentioned before.
just make sure you have active-sync running and working and the battery id over %50 charged.
I'll be doing this tonight
The Tmobile stock rom can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406327

'preparing your device for first use'

Hi folks, I've been using abusalza's Ulitmate-X roms for a good few months now, and recently I decided to update to his WM6.5 beta version, after doing that whenever the phone needs a soft reset, it will boot and say 'preparing your device for first use', and format everything on the phone and then boot up.
So I decided to flash his Ultimate-X2 V11 rom, same issue, and now I've gone back to his Ultimate-X V9, which I'm pretty sure is the same ROM I've been using for some months now (never had any issues before), and whenever it requires a soft reset it will do the 'preparing device for first use' thing, it will do the customization install, then the connection setup, then reboot itself and just sit there on the PDA Corner Ultimate screen until I reset it, soft resets just keep hanging on the PDA Corner Ultimate screen, and unless I hard reset it (soft keys and press the reset button, that's a hard reset isn't it?) it won't get passed that point. I've just this minute had to hard reset it and it's booted, but it takes a good 5-10 minutes each time which gets annoying.
Has something packed up in my Kaiser to make it do this? Seems out of 3 ROM's I've tried they all now have the same issue, including a ROM I'm pretty sure I used to use with no issues.
Sorry if this is a common problem and easy to cure, I did search for 'preparing your device for first use' and something came up from months ago, but a totally different issue.
Thanks for any advice, Dom.
duuuuuuuudddeeeee!!! you have made TWO basic mistakes
1. this post belongs in the thread for the ROM you are using (same series as myself) where you will find...
2. you need to flash stock ROM first!!! it is written on the FIRST PAGE of the thread...i mean seriously, EVERY DAY on that thread, you will see this pattern:
noob writes a post..."my device hard resets after soft resetting...your ROM sucks, etc, etc"...then someone directs them to the instructions on the first page of the thread and problem solved. afterall, the instructions are there on the first page so that people can read them along with the FAQ.
I'm sorry!
I'll not bother you again I promise *goes to read the FIRST PAGE of the ROM topic*
The only reason I've never done this before is because I'm sure I've flashed ROMs in the past and not had to go back to OEM first
Thanks a lot, I'll go have a read now.
Dommo said:
I'm sorry!
I'll not bother you again I promise *goes to read the FIRST PAGE of the ROM topic*
The only reason I've never done this before is because I'm sure I've flashed ROMs in the past and not had to go back to OEM first
Thanks a lot, I'll go have a read now.
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Well at least you didn't start a new thread in the rom development forum
And the OEM first, appears to be a 6.5 only thing, so how would you know...
But I still won't forgive you for not reading the first page or the FAQs. When the doctor gives you new medication to get rid of the flu, do you read the label , or do you just take two or three and figure that should be enough.
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Well at least you didn't start a new thread in the rom development forum
And the OEM first, appears to be a 6.5 only thing, so how would you know...
But I still won't forgive you for not reading the first page or the FAQs. When the doctor gives you medication to get rid of the flu, do you read the label , or do you just take two or three and figure that should be enough.
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[sarcasm]I always thought the best way was to take all the pills at once? No wonder I feel a bit rough afterwards [/sarcasm]
I do feel like a tool at the moment so that's something to be chuffed about
Cheers, just downloading another updated rom and I'll give that a go, it's back to OEM now.
Thanks again.

another bricking question

My unbranded TyTnII took a dump today, and reset itself to OEM condition, not so bad, except the data base was corrupt, so I would not configure a connection to my carrier (T-mo) .
So, I took it home, hooked it up to activeSynch, and brought up a previous sprite backup file to restore it.
Now it's a paperweight- it will start, display the three three install lines R-G-D with the Smart mobility splash, and that's it. I can't get it into bootloader, or anything else for that matter. Any ideas?
ttruex said:
My unbranded TyTnII took a dump today, and reset itself to OEM condition, not so bad, except the data base was corrupt, so I would not configure a connection to my carrier (T-mo) .
So, I took it home, hooked it up to activeSynch, and brought up a previous sprite backup file to restore it.
Now it's a paperweight- it will start, display the three three install lines R-G-D with the Smart mobility splash, and that's it. I can't get it into bootloader, or anything else for that matter. Any ideas?
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If you get to the 3 color screen you are in bootloader my friend, do you notice the USB sign display in the screen? If you get that you can flash. I will recommend that you hard spl your device first (Please read the sitcky of how to perfom it, click under my TyTNII link)
Moved as not ROM Development..
Hard-Reset and do not use your backup as may be corrupted...
If that does not work then try and get into bootloader i know you said you can't but try again and flash stock ROM.
thanks for the move, and my apologies for the mispost- I realized only afterward I had put this up in developers.
I can't get to bootlogger mode- the phone hangs at the initial splash where it displays the SW versions of R D G. It will not move past this.
I hold the camera and on buttons, and push and hold the reset pin, but this is as far as it gets. I will sit here, so far for an hour, but will not progress further.
What am I missing? It's been some time since I've had to muck with it at all, so I've become unfamiliar with the tricks.
It's not bricked as long as you can get meaningful info on the screen. It sounds like you need to revisit HardSPL and put on a newer version. Then flash an appropriate rom.
All right,
Many thanks for the help! I flashed and manged to get the bone stock HTC WM 6.0 ROM loaded.
Now, at the risk of asking what could be considered a dangerous question (almost as bad as starting an oil thread on a moto list) what would be considered the latest and greatest ROM of them all? these days? I haven't been on this forum for quite some time, and I'm sure you all have been busy w/updates. I gave up when WM 6.1 came out, screwed up the GPS settings and made the camera even worse, so I've just stuck with my plain 'ol HTC OEM ROM.
Any suggestions?
ttruex said:
All right,
Many thanks for the help! I flashed and manged to get the bone stock HTC WM 6.0 ROM loaded.
Now, at the risk of asking what could be considered a dangerous question (almost as bad as starting an oil thread on a moto list) what would be considered the latest and greatest ROM of them all? these days? I haven't been on this forum for quite some time, and I'm sure you all have been busy w/updates. I gave up when WM 6.1 came out, screwed up the GPS settings and made the camera even worse, so I've just stuck with my plain 'ol HTC OEM ROM.
Any suggestions?
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Yes, try them all and pick which one can meet your daily needs
having tried quite a few 'light and fast' types, i would say stick to more or less standard 6.1.
i spent a lot of time looking for cabs and then adding back in all the removed stuff i needed.
then get spb mobile shell on there and have a good looking phone.
6.5 never worked properly, esp messages, but a few other obscure probs.
my 2c

Is this safe?

Hello, I'm new around here. I recently acquired a Vodafone VPx Blue Angel phone. Is it completely safe to upgrade them to the latest version of Windows Mobile for a newbie like me?
Thanks,
BrandonSH.
completely? theres always a risk.
backup your current rom to sdcard before you do anything.
just be careful about flashing radio, that's what will brick you.
Actually, upgrading any part of the device could potentially brick it. Just make sure that you follow all the necessary steps for unlocking (if necessary) and upgrading your device. Good luck...
OK... I'll try it when the cradle from eBay comes.
you should definetely follow step by step instructions. my tutorial is fool proof, because even if you don't know, what you are doing, you will still get there, and following every step exactly, there is no risk at all. hundreds of people do it exactly like that and have not bricked their devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630416
i totally agree..
i have a blue angel also that still runs on WM2003..i've installed spb applications in it and every time my battery runs out, all of the installed programs disappears or uninstalls..i've read in some forums that in WM5 and WM6 this thing doesnt happen even if your battery runs out..
the only thing that's been troubling me is i don't want my (beloved) Blue Angel to turn into a useless brick after stuffing up an upgrade to WM6 (if ever i decided to upgrade)..
being a newbie like you doesn't give me much confidence in following the upgrade steps that are posted in the forums..probably, when there's one that i can 'really' understand i'll give that upgrading a go for sure..until then..i just have to make sure that my battery life is doing fine
the reason, the programs are "uninstalled" when your battery runs out, is that your home drive ("C:") is stored in the ram, you can see that, when you go to start - settings - system - memory. you can adjust the level of ram in comparison to storage space on the ram. ram consists of an architecture, that can only hold data as long as it is supplied with power, just like on the pc, when you put a windows xp pc into hibernation, the ram is stored on the harddisk, so that it can power off and still save the system state. so, everytime you run out of power, probably in combination with a broken backup battery, your device is hard resetted, as it can only store the internal permanent data, like the rom partition, the storage and the storage card.
that does not happen to devices running wm5 or above, since their home drives are not located on the ram, but the storage, some roms come with a ram disk as a 2nd drive, but you would only use that space temporarily and programs and documents are stored in a save area that is independent from power supply.
btw. you are a registered user for more than a year now, by now you could have figured out the upgrade procedure. it has been posted dozens of times, the most recent and accurate ones by me. i can see that you don't want to follow steps randomly without knowing what they do. that wouldn't be a problem. i can explain any given step to you, what exactly it does and why it does that and what that is necessary for, if you want me to. after all, i wrote my tutorials, because i understand the procedure, not just copying it from somewhere.
EDIT: btw. as long as you try and flash a blueangel rom, you cannot brick your device. even if the flashing process fails for any reason, you would simply start over. besides trying to flash a rom from another device, i couldn't think of a single case, where somebody really bricked their device.
thank you for the very informative reply Chef..i've always been wondering why that thing happens to my BA, now i know why..
as for being a bit tentative on upgrading my BA..you're right..i just don't wanna follow random steps and besides im not really that 'technically' gifted when it comes to gadgets..i know my BA is an old model but i really like the benefits that i get from it..so is it ok if i post some messages to you regarding help on upgrading to wm6 for my BA?
i know you've already posted a tutorial for it..and i know a lot of people can follow it without any trouble at all..as for me..i can only understand the steps where i need to download certain files..that's about it..as for the rest of the tutorial im in total darkness..like i said, im not really that good when it comes to these kind of things
but don't worry..now that i know there's someone like you who would gladly help out a newbie like me in upgrading my BA, i think im about to 'dive in' into this upgrading stuff..just need to read your tutorial again..and download all the necessary stuff needed for the upgrade..
thanks so much..
erm im not entirely sure how flashing the wince image would brick it. i mean, i've ATTEMPTED to brick a harrier before. i zerod out the entire wince image and flashed it, i corrupted it and flashed it, i dc'd it at 2% 10% 40% 60% and so on.
i cant get the damn thing to die, seriously. ive always came back from wince flashes.
spygyro, if you want fast help you should check out the xda irc. having a live talk with someone is alot faster than on here, #xda-devs on irc.freeenode.net:6667
thanks cheapusenet..but im bit tentative to go into those chatrooms for i dont know much about gadgets like i've said before..i dont wanna bore them with my incessant questions about upgrading..but then again, it's a good suggestion..i'll try to visit it one of these days, but im still going through some of the upgrading tutorials on this site because i'm comfortable with the other forum users here..
there are a lot of knowledgeable forum members here that i think could help me gain 'confidence' into upgrading my BA..don't get me wrong, i know there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the site that you've just mentioned and i'm sure gonna give it a go and visit it..thanks for the suggestion..
spyrgyro said:
thanks cheapusenet..but im bit tentative to go into those chatrooms for i dont know much about gadgets like i've said before..i dont wanna bore them with my incessant questions about upgrading..but then again, it's a good suggestion..i'll try to visit it one of these days, but im still going through some of the upgrading tutorials on this site because i'm comfortable with the other forum users here..
there are a lot of knowledgeable forum members here that i think could help me gain 'confidence' into upgrading my BA..don't get me wrong, i know there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the site that you've just mentioned and i'm sure gonna give it a go and visit it..thanks for the suggestion..
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The instructions become more clear when you actually have the device and everything you need in front of you. There is no science to this though. Just read, read, read, and re-read until it all begins to make sense (it will, trust me)
BTW, bricking a device is perfectly possible, regardless of what cheapusenet might say (don't really know what purpose killing a Harrier would have, but...)
thanks egzthunder1...i'll try as much as possible to comprehend what the instructions are trying to convey..by the way..i went to that irc chat channel that cheapusenet suggested, and just as i thought, the only thing i got were smart-ass remarks and answers..someone even asked me 'wtf do u want b***h' ..but then again there's a kind soul who suggested i should just follow the instructions here on the forum..i think that would be my last time asking help from an irc chatroom..lol..
anyways..thanks for all the suggestion guys..all i need to do right now is to read and re-read those upgrade instructions until it all becomes crystal clear to me..i just hope i won't 'brick' my BA (fingers crossed)..
i have a large..large amount of harriers. they're the same device as the blueangel just CDMA, i wasnt attempting to brick it as much as i was trying to learn from it. i was attempting to port wm5 to the harrier and thought it may help in some way. and i'm sorrya bout that. I wasnt around i guess, i wouldve helped. it was agentblair and jason8 i bet!
you won't brick it, as long as you just flash a wince image. hell, just dont unplug it or let the battery die and it wont brick. it really isnt all that scary.
also, i DID brick a harrier once come to think about it. it was the radio. flashing the radio you have to worry about, not the WM image.

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