Hi Guys,
Firstly, i am new to this - so if i ask any stupid Q's, please forgive me
I will be getting my MDA Vario tomorrow, and before i do too much customisaton and transfer my phonebook over, i would like some advice on upgrading.
From reading this Forum, i believe that I have to do a CID unlock and a SIM unlock. I am familier with a SIM unlock, but what it a CID unlock?
Also, from what i can gather, in order to do this - i have to downgrade to an older version of the rom first. Once i have done this and unlocked the device, does anyone have any recomendations on what ROM i should upgrade it to? I have heard the Qtek rom is a good one, but will is this the best one to be going for?
Thanks for your input guys. You can be asured, once i get familier with this device i shall be providing much imput to this forum!
Glyn
Hi, I'm new to WM5/vario as well (experienced on palms & treos).
You only need to unlock the wizard if you want to use another suppliers SIM card, and to get rid of the T-Mobile stuff you need to remove the Carrier ID (CID), so you can then change the rom to another one not recognised by your TMobile rom.
I understand, but could be wrong, that you only need to down grade if your device already has one of the latest a2dp stereo roms with push email built in.
Hope this helps (if I'm right)!!!
I am a noob here, and i have no clue what the forum is talking aobut, can someone please help me, i need to unlock my T-Mobile MDA to work with the Cingular Service
Look through the threads. Lokiwiz has produced an unlocker that will unlock your MDA(SIM and CID). You will need to determine if you have a G3 or G4 and that will get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928&highlight=lokiwiz
Reda this also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=lokiwiz
After you get it unlocked you may want to install one of the cooked roms that will make it perform better. I am currently using Molski's rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279097&page=23
I was completely lost at first but within a few days I had mine unlocked and upgraded. Just keep reading.
Good luck!
what do i need to do to sim or cid ? unlock it. what is cid and sim unlock do i need to do both or just one or the other. any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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If you personally haven't unlocked it it is most likely CID locked. For a G4 you will have to go to the pay site to CID unlock.
There is also a G4 sub-forum of the Wizard forum that might have a good bit of information that you would find useful.
maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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Use this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038 to read the CID block and report its status
Nice one Mestrini! Just checked and as suspected its CID locked,damn,blast and phoo lol.
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.
Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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