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Cingular Unlock, Flash Procedure

I just received my Cingular 8125 this week and have run into some issues that I need to resolve that will require me to flash to "summiter's" 2.17 ROM flash. I have poured through so many posts and I still do not know whether I have a clear understanding of the steps that I need to follow. Here is what I have already done to the machine:
1. Received standard Cingular 8125 with standard ROM
2. Used LOKIWIZ to unlocked the phone and confirmed.
3. Flashed the phone to HTC's new release for Cingular new shipments. http://www.htcamerica.net/support/cingular_8125.htm
4. Reconfirmed that phone was still unlocked.
I have seen threads regarding CID unlock for the phones already upgraded to the 2.17. DID THE LOKIWIZ do a CID unlock on my unit. If not, what would be the procedure? Do I need to unlock the CID before upgrading if LOKIWIZ did not unlcok?
Help me with the confusion. Much appreciated.
JLS

Here is my understanding so far:
Lokwiz can do SIM unlock as well as CID unlock. But you have to specifically instruct it to do so. They are two different unlock steps.
Although you can apply Summiter's ROM without CID unlock. It is strongly recommended to do so before upgrade. I think none of the unlock tools work with new AKU2 ROMs.

How can I tell if my CID has been unlocked?

I used lokiwiz02b to unlock? both the SID and CID. The device restarted during both installations like it should have.
I read about how to check if the SID is unlocked by using a SIM card from another network but what about the CID?
Thank for any help.

technicallysound said:
I used lokiwiz02b to unlock? both the SID and CID. The device restarted during both installations like it should have.
I read about how to check if the SID is unlocked by using a SIM card from another network but what about the CID?
Thank for any help.
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assuming you already flashed up to a 2.xx carrier rom, you can attempt to flash a different carrier's rom or any 2.xx custom rom here to see if it changes. If it errors out or completes but nothing changes then you are not CID unlocked.

Thank you. Yeah, I followed "How to fllsh a Wizard..." tutorial up to G4.6 assuming it was unlocked. I tried Xplorer 1.1 (originally getting error 300) but then updated the romupdateutility.exe. After the install finished i just had the 3 Color bootloader screen.

technicallysound said:
Thank you. Yeah, I followed "How to fllsh a Wizard..." tutorial up to G4.6 assuming it was unlocked. I tried Xplorer 1.1 (originally getting error 300) but then updated the romupdateutility.exe. After the install finished i just had the 3 Color bootloader screen.
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woah woah woah... You have a G4... G4's aren't CID Unlocked unless you have paid to have this done from imei-check.co.uk . You also have to be careful (if you don't know this already) what roms you flash. Don't just go and flash another carrier's rom on a G4 or you could (will?) wind up with a brick.
So on a G4, you will either have to pay to get CID Unlocked or you use ShellTool to do upgrades (you have to make sure you remove the IPL/SPL in roms before upgrading).

mfrazzz said:
woah woah woah... You have a G4... G4's aren't CID Unlocked unless you have paid to have this done from imei-check.co.uk . You also have to be careful (if you don't know this already) what roms you flash. Don't just go and flash another carrier's rom on a G4 or you could (will?) wind up with a brick.
So on a G4, you will either have to pay to get CID Unlocked or you use ShellTool to do upgrades (you have to make sure you remove the IPL/SPL in roms before upgrading).
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yeah, you didn't have that signature in your post when I replied originally. You have a G4. be very careful which roms you flash. Flashing IPL/SPL into a G4 will brick it. Lokiwiz won't CID unlock a G4. As MFrazzz has said the only known way to CID unlock a G4 is to pay a website for it (imei-unlockers or something like that.)

I forgot to put this in my post earlier... Please use this to learn to flash:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
Since we now know you have a G4, just start at G4.1 and have fun (but be careful).

Please help a noob - never upgraded a ROM before

Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked

Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.

Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
Miker2006 said:
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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question about how to keep GPRS/GSM/phone settings after wm6 rom upgrade

Ok I have searched and searched and I am about ready to upgrade to a wm6 rom. I have a cingular 8125 and its still CID/SIM locked. I just want to know once I downgrade then CID unlock then upgrade are my GPRS settings saved once the new ROM is on??? If not how to I go about getting these set up. And also, does a phone need to be SIM unlocked to upgrade or just CID. I am guessing just CID but i want to make sure
Thanks

sim unlocking is used if you want to use other carriers on your phone, cid if your flashing a new rom, they are just steps away, why dont you just do them both, and be sure to know what kind of device you have G3 or G4, you can use the network wizard floating around here for your settings, enjoy

ok, i know its a g3 i have been reading up for ages while it was in repair. but I cant seem to find the GPRS tool or whatever you are talking about. Can you point me to a thread?

Want to sell my device, what do I need to unlock?

Hi guys,
I wanted to sell my Cingular 8125 back on eBay. What do I need to unlock? I am confused about CID unlocking / SIM unlocking ...
The device works perfectly, I have installed mfrazzz WM6 version 4.
Thanks!

Telenochek said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to sell my Cingular 8125 back on eBay. What do I need to unlock? I am confused about CID unlocking / SIM unlocking ...
The device works perfectly, I have installed mfrazzz WM6 version 4.
Thanks!
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Is it a G3 or G4 and how much do you want for it?

Telenochek said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to sell my Cingular 8125 back on eBay. What do I need to unlock? I am confused about CID unlocking / SIM unlocking ...
The device works perfectly, I have installed mfrazzz WM6 version 4.
Thanks!
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If you have a cooked rom on it already, I'm guessing it is already unlocked. My suggestion, use the WST to do a check. CID unlocked allows for custom roms. SIM unlocking allows for other providers. A quick glance at the stickies or wiki would explain it more, that's why we have them. They will also help you determine what (if anything) needs to be done to your device.