Im sorry maybe im being stupid but the wiki really isnt clear. well at least it requires prior knowledge of command prompt.
So i have followed all the steps on the wiki upto:
Determine your operator Information e.g.: "T-MOB101", or "Vodafone", or O2. See GetDeviceData.
Open a command prompt, go to the folder where the ROM file resides (nk.nbf) and execute: SetOperator ???
(where ??? is your operator).
So I open up command prompt but have no idea what to type
the .nbf file is saved in D:\Documents and Settings\Andrew.ANDREW-30KU0MC0\Desktop\Blue Angel\Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v.1.4 at the moment.
my operator code is currently ORANG001 but it is running a O2 sim card if that makes any difference?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Wow I must be the only one to have ever upgraded to WM2005!!
come on guys please?!
andypa1 - if you are being stupid then that makes 2 of us because it is very unclear to me also
I know mate, iv searched the forum for ages, read the wiki all morning. took a crash course in flipping ms dos. so I gave up and just copied the file without doing any operator changes.
Doesnt work, comes up with an error like wrong device or something.
the point of a wiki is that everyone can follow it simply. as soon as someone tells me the answer I will rewrite the wiki because it isnt clear to anyone who doesnt know the command prompt.
Yes, you are both dumb as sh*t. All this is clearly described on the forum, but none of you moved his butt to SEARCH. Its better to flood the forum with stupid questions, eh?
GetDeviceData.exe is to be executed on the PPC, DeviceData.txt contains the operator string that is to be replaced for "???" in SetOperator.bat
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=GetDeviceData , so don't tell mie sh*t that u did search, andypa1.
wahey look at the big man throwing insults over the internet, behind the safety of a keyboard well do you live in england, UK ? cos if so I say get in the ring.
Firstly if you moved your eyes up to my post you would see that I did infact use the search function. and in the wiki it doesnt say to do that part on the device.
_TB_TB thanks for your comments -i'm sorry it was it too much trouble for you to try and help obviously sarcastic comments are much easier?
Never mind.
andypa1 from what I have read the fact you are using a different sim makes no difference it is what the get device data output is that matters.
Iv got mine working now mate if you want a hand with anything, the rar file I downloaded didnt have the setup.bat file in PH20B folder. Which really didnt help. sigh next job finish getting my new 60gb zune working. hoorah!
you got issues dude
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Yes, you are both dumb as sh*t. All this is clearly described on the forum, but none of you moved his butt to SEARCH. Its better to flood the forum with stupid questions, eh?
GetDeviceData.exe is to be executed on the PPC, DeviceData.txt contains the operator string that is to be replaced for "???" in SetOperator.bat
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=GetDeviceData , so don't tell mie sh*t that u did search, andypa1.
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haha and you're a senior member of this? I lived in birmingham for 3 months, worst experience ever, and the culinary contributions you guys give are the worst on the planet. (Im assuming dentistry doesn't exist there, a british mouth is like a shark) You folks have a lot of lip to give, so yeah you can suck my d*ck also.
I think this 'chap' is the only one in a forum for 5yr old phones 24/7.
the real question is, why the hell do you go through with the BS device_data crap when all you have to upgrade is the one sole MaUpgradeUt_noID prog. Extra work for nothing. Senior my ass,
'what your mommy buy you a puter for christmas'
Yes he does have issues, but I have no idea why you feel you need to slag off my country. of all the things you could pick about this country that are crap, you chose the food. I am happy to inform you that myself and every girl I have ever got off with has brilliant teeth. I happen to love the fact that I could get any choice of English or worldwide food I want in my city of Birmingham, my favourite being italian. I think the problem is they kicked you out at the all you can eat, or you just couldnt fit enough in your fat face.
okie, guys enough of that nonsense please.
To who ask for helps, please dont insult the rom provides in this forum, our developers are working hard to bring wm5 up to speed, reliability and stability.
and for whoever replies to question(s), please try to be helpful. I know it's hard sometimes like the question has been asked for so many times, and ppl dont do any research, straight up open a new topic. but yep if u dont feel like responding, just dont.
imatrix
I know you dont believe me cos Im a noob an all, but the wiki isnt clear when the zip file doesnt contain the bat file in the folder im instructed to use. and I used the search function for hours.
Dont lie! we all now that instructions are clear - absolutely )
Now serious -
If you have no idea how command prompt works (but you should!) you can use the one from Helmi 1.4 vanilla version. (Its not the same like Vanilla or Chocolate ice-cream)
1. Personally I dont think you should perform upgrade when you cant find the answers by your own
2. But see the attached file you have to copy it in the folder where nk.nbf file is (I hope you move it into the proper folder)
3. Its just .bat (batch) and this one requires xda3nbftool.exe (it can be found in the folder PH20B1) --> copy it to the same folder.
4. Run it.
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PS : "Open a command prompt, go to the folder where the ROM file resides (nk.nbf) and execute: SetOperator ???"
it means you will type in command prompt SetOperator ORANG001
cheers mate but iv had wm2005 happily running for a whole day now. I was fine when I found out the .bat was in a folder i wasnt using.
anyways you guys remind me of the comic book guy in the simpsons lol. .
but thanks
You will laugh on the other side of your face...
kerio said:
1. Personally I dont think you should perform upgrade when you cant find the answers by your own
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I agree with that - most of the stupid questions with unsuccesfull upgrades came from the people that failed to READ what to do.
BA_Flash_GOD - one of them said they must be too dumb to figure out how to change the operator. I only confirmed that fact - by simply pointing a search results.
Additionally - I have given an ansfer to their question regarding SetOperator - so what is YOUR problem? :>
You ask the real question is, why the hell do you go through with the BS device_data crap when all you have to upgrade is the one sole MaUpgradeUt_noID prog. Extra work for nothing. Senior my ass - did they ask if it is possible to do WITHOUT the operator thingy? I recall only the question about HOW TO SET the operator.
yoz I come in peace
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I agree with that - most of the stupid questions with unsuccesfull upgrades came from the people that failed to READ what to do.
BA_Flash_GOD - one of them said they must be too dumb to figure out how to change the operator. I only confirmed that fact - by simply pointing a search results.
Additionally - I have given an ansfer to their question regarding SetOperator - so what is YOUR problem? :>
You ask the real question is, why the hell do you go through with the BS device_data crap when all you have to upgrade is the one sole MaUpgradeUt_noID prog. Extra work for nothing. Senior my ass - did they ask if it is possible to do WITHOUT the operator thingy? I recall only the question about HOW TO SET the operator.
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I've got zero problems, i'm just stating no reason to call him a dumbass. Moral was if you were smart you wouldn't go through the operator stuff for no reason.
Let's help him out, EASIEST way possible, don't go through useless command lines to show the prog that yeah, it's a whatever model, flash. I think the wrong thing to do would be to go through all that operator change when it's never needed.
I figured you'd just say read wiki and leave it at that. We should show some respect to new people, they are the ones giving donations to this site? 'Cheers mates'
so to all that have troubles with any operator stuff, throw that out the window and just get MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, problems solved.
I got no beef with anyone or the UK, just saying wasn't a pleasent experience, and yes fish and chips for all.
Allright
I agree I got too furious - sorry for that... But they also could have done better, right?
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i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
It might be the nature of the question or not enough info to allow someone to compose an answer without asking a question in response.
I'm hardly an old-timer around here and have found the site quite helpful and have gotten response to my questions.
its fairly easy to ask for more info tho? but it was just a question i wasnt getting on anyones back or that. i am a total newbie at these phones and need as much help as i can get to use it to its full potential
chris
I'm new here too. Asked a question, got an answer. Look at your question and two things trike me. Its a bit vague and its something I expect you could find out by searching these forums and the rest of the net.
I find that if you help yourself - by finding out as much as you can first, maybe trying a few things and having them fail - then people are far more willing to help you.
General rule of the board No.79231 - "Don't reply to anyone who spells theme incorrectly" ;-)
Seriously, it's probably because you asked a question that has been asked so many times that it is obvious you have not shown any effort by doing a search yourself.
Tip try a search for corporate AND install. I'm not sure if it is exactly the same method as on the Alpine and I'm not going to search for you I'm afraid.
yea i understand that guys, and i have searched and found a load of stuff just do not have a clue what to download theres that many.
oh an come on one typo :lol:
chris
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
OK heres what you asked:
got my XDA yesterday an was told to wipe the o2 software an its speeds up the phone more, also looking for the XP theam for it. and how to update and install etc etc? first time av had a phone like th ...
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See first thing I noticed - everything you asked in this post can be found by just searching the forum. Themes [I assume you do mean themes] can be found by a simple google search. How to install on the XDA[is that a phone?] can be found in the users manual. Upgrading the ROM might be something you wanna come back to once you know your phone a little better. Live with it a little while...
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So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
chris267 said:
dkb218 said:
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
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Me, Get ratty? Perish the thought. Me getting ratty would be like me saying something like, oh, I don't know - "Listen you little twit!!! Try the fricken search button!!!" But I didn't say that. I tried to offer you some help. Take it or leave it!!!
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
dkb218 said:
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
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cheers dude al start searching for that stuff.
i threw that 4th question in for good luck lol, but i will check them out. thanks for your help and i will let you know how i get on
cheers
chris
chris267:
People do help newbies, and that's part of the job. I'm getting worried by the number of people saying that we don't help newbies. We were all one once, but for God, I suppose (I guess that's what he was doing for the first 5 days, blinging up his phone!)
Anyway, I don't know anything about the o2 stuff. I've got an o2 phone, but basically reset my phone before it installed anything from the extended rom. This basically means, extended slowness. You can then pick and choose what to install to customise your phone, resulting in a faster phone.
Theme and things: I suggest you have a look through this thread for ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44560&highlight=start
Many people recommend Wisbar, a customisation program to change the look of the phone. It's heavy, uses a lot of memory, but looks good.
Have a look through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57926&highlight=software
There are many similar threads on the board, but my recommendations are, install SmallMenu, gsfinder, (and for me, VJOkButt). Anything else is cosmetic or optional, these 2/3 are essential.
V
1. to remove it try doing a hard reset, then boot up in coproate mode and enter 0506.Failing that to temporarily remove it go to start->settings->remove programs and remove O2ActiveUI. This will only make it go until your next hard reset. If you want to get rid of it another way try removing the file from the startup by: fileexplorer /windows/startup remove the program called o2 startup and do a soft reset.
2.no prgrams needed
3.you need to get wisbar advance forst, then get the xp theme on that and it should work
4. get a program called spb pocket plus, great little app and tcmp movie player too is good after that it's down to personal preference
Try www.freewareppc.com for lots of freeware.
hahaha
1. How to install Windows XP on my Wizard?
2. Where to download 3mpx patch for my camera?
3. And I need FM-radio patch too. May be it in AKU 3.5?
4. How to double screen resolution to 640x480?
5. And finally: how to install ASQ* Filter for this forum?
*ASQ = Another Stupid Question
chris267 said:
i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
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Sorry about your Feelings Chris.
I felt the same a few days back when I joined this forum.
But People who scorned at me were probably those who had never even heard about the forums I am Moderating on; (these forums have nothing to do with XDA developement however) But I can assure them that had they posted anything "seemingly stupid" on those forums I would have gladly helped them.
Vijay Was extremely helpful in explaining to me the way the world runs and the Way THIS forum Runs (excuse the caps).
He came to my rescue and set things right about it and I am glad that he is here as are some other members who have been very much helpful.
This forum is a Great place for newcomers as well as for experts.
At first if you dont understand things u might feel confused; but later on as you go thru the posts......things become clear.
At least they did for me.
I have read your posts and what you write was, what I felt just 2 weeks back when I joined, Only I took it all in my stride.
Chris maybe you had the guts to speak it out loud..
So in a way you are better that me Chris !!
Please keep on searching for your answers here on xda-dev and I am sure you shall go a long way.
In case there is ever anything I can do to help you out simply whisper...
(im me)
I have posted a reply to your queries for O2 default software removing and I have posted a few Today skins (XP type)
regards....and have fun with your New Set !!
The skins are availble here :arrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=13780
jeasbe'
(Simply a newbie like you )
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I? But sometimes, I think people forget that we're all people with brains and familes and feelings, not just meaningless posts on a forum.
So really, I mean it, if anyone gives anyone a hard time, PM me and I'll see if it's a legitimate complaint. If I can help, I'll probably end up answering a post at some point anyway, because I can't stop :shock:
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V
vijay555 said:
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I?................
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
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THE GREATEST of all Men Underestimate themselves and Vijay is Far too Modest !!
dude its maybe a american thing i think.... i got treated the same on mp3car forum... and there mostly yanks too...
dont worry bout it....
i do kinda see ehere there comming from though.... I guess if u sit watching same forum all the time would start to annoy u that kept getting the same old questions asked...
I personaly got 2 replys... so did pretty well... although... still cant get rid of flipping message sent tone
I can not figure out how to edit a wizard os.nb. I am trying to compare it with a universal 3.2 imgfs dump. Any suggestions on viewing os.nb?
Mr. Jeffrey,
Keep your Christian Dogma to yourself. I couldn't care less who you consider to be a sinner or not. I accept the consequences of all of my actions and choices, answering only to my conscience.
Of course I will be of no help to you and your mis-guided project. You still can't seem to understand even basic concepts.
First, I wonder how would you "help solve problems" without building a Rom that incorporates the solutions?
Second, Faria is not forcing anyone to use any programs that they don't want to. His 3.2 Rom does not prevent me from configuring it how I please. By integrating those very common apps into the Rom they are available IF I CHOOSE TO USE THEM without costing me any RAM!
Third, I don't really care what the runonce app does. It works and the Rom I am testing for him is the best Rom yet. I do know that it has not prevented me from installing and changing apps, settings to my liking.
Fourth, grow-up or go home.
Faria has been a contributing member of this forum and all I have seen from you is personal attacks and stupid questions.
Now that I know your personal e-mail address, rest assured that I will not contact you and I would appreciate the same respect in return....
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From: "CryBaby's Real Name REMOVED to protect the stupid" <CryBaby's e-Mail Addy REMOVED to protect the stupid>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Looks like our buddy 'Jeffbar1' got real far with his Rom!!!
> what a good peson you are to forward my post but it is
> too bad you are of no help. I am not trying to build a
> rom but i am trying to better understand the os to
> help solve problems like the 99% hang, MMS settings,
> bluetooth stereo and update intergration.
> testing roms to ensure your personally installed
> configs are working has nothing to do with AKU3.2
> testing. xda members should have a choice of what
> third party apps to test in a rom and not be forced to
> config their devices to be like everyone else. i
> commend faria for intergrating the 3rdparty apps to
> rom but his runonce SECURITY app just secures that his
> personal config test base is controlled, which means
> only faria config benifits from the test. if anything
> is changed then you are just testing your own config.
>
> bob just like you i am a sinner and that is OK just
> please dont waste our time with sarcastic Email
LOL, flaming...
cmon guys...shake hands...
btw, kyphur, is just a suggestion...change the email address, we dont know what harvester bot r reading this posts...i mean...i know jeff is wrong and all...but lets try to dont make this thing worst than it already is...
and jeff...i use farias rom and is working flawlessly, and the "security" is not so secure as i deleted some stuff from the rom that i dont liked as the wclose application and installed vbar that i like a lot more...
and about the os edit read more man, i have seen at least 1 or 2 threads still active about editing the roms...u can also read buzzdev and modaco and howardforums...a lot of choices...but read read read read...noone is going to do the work for u...at least not a so hard work as can be changing a rom...and i hope that when the time comes u r going to be smart enough to test it on your own device first (so u risk destroying your own unit as faria and every rom maker did)
and a last word for all that r having strange problems booting, lodaing, errors and so on...allways remember: u r runing a WINDOWS...that means at least 15% chance of os failing and not updaters, programs, settings and others...i mean...most random errors have to be flamed to microsoft...
PS: to protect spamers from him?? rofl that one was perfect lol
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btw, kyphur, is just a suggestion...change the email address, we dont know what harvester bot r reading this posts...i mean...i know jeff is wrong and all...but lets try to dont make this thing worst than it already is...
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Trashman, point taken I wouldn't wish him on any respectable spammers out there.
If you want a good laugh, read this thread where he cries that I've attacked him!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1040112
Can you believe the nerve, I mean after the carp he's said about faria he runs for cover when someone criticizes him. Wow, I wonder what turnip truck he fell off of (and how many times he bounced on his head)....
Oh No!!!
I just realized that since I referenced JeffBar1's "I was attacked" Thread in this thread after referencing this thread in his "I was attacked" Thread I've committed a Programming No-No.....
I can't believe that I've created a Circular Reference!
May the Logic Gods forgive me.
Oh well, in my 10 plus years as a professional programmer this is not the first time I've made that mistake!!
U r a logic sinner also!! oh no! u r going to fall to logic hell!! roflmao!
Bring this on topic or it'll be trashed. I'm also quite grouchy and ban-happy 'cos I'm not getting any these days. Consider yourself warned all
V
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Bring this on topic or it'll be trashed. I'm also quite grouchy and ban-happy 'cos I'm not getting any these days. Consider yourself warned all
V
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Sorry to hear that V,
BTW, we'll keep further comments in the other thread (where it is quite on topic).
Buy the wife some flowers and stay off the forms for a few days, that might fix the other problem
no, this thread should have been trashed already, there isnt a place on this board for personal attacks
No reason to trash my thread!
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no, this thread should have been trashed already, there isnt a place on this board for personal attacks
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this thread pertained to a real question that is still unanwsered. I was able to dump the os from my wizard but i still cant dump a os.nb file. i have tried prepare_imgfs.exe but viewimgfs.exe is unable to recognize a header and does not complete the dump. tomorrow i will give a better explaination of it is doing but i had to work late and im tired. so please don't trash this thread but my "members like bob" thread was childish and to have the final word if you review the argument it was bobs sarcasism that started it and i never blasted faria i was just stating my opinion.
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this thread pertained to a real question that is still unanwsered. I was able to dump the os from my wizard but i still cant dump a os.nb file. i have tried prepare_imgfs.exe but viewimgfs.exe is unable to recognize a header and does not complete the dump. tomorrow i will give a better explaination of it is doing but i had to work late and im tired. so please don't trash this thread but my "members like bob" thread was childish and to have the final word if you review the argument it was bobs sarcasism that started it and i never blasted faria i was just stating my opinion.
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the imgfs tools contain a readme in how to do that.also there is plenty of info in the forum about it.the runonce in my rom does not have anything sinister,it is just an installer like the autorun from the extended rom,this was a way i could register certain .dll.and also set several registry keys in the registry.the only problem it seems, is no one can see whats inside it,.
anyway... im in a 4 day break with the family ,im also working in a new wizard project that will benefit all the wizards owners and possibly other devices....lets just say the 3.2 rom will be history soon
be happy everyone,
regards
faria
jeffbar1 said:
this thread pertained to a real question that is still unanwsered. I was able to dump the os from my wizard but i still cant dump a os.nb file. i have tried prepare_imgfs.exe but viewimgfs.exe is unable to recognize a header and does not complete the dump. tomorrow i will give a better explaination of it is doing but i had to work late and im tired. so please don't trash this thread but my "members like bob" thread was childish and to have the final word if you review the argument it was bobs sarcasism that started it and i never blasted faria i was just stating my opinion.
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as this thread is already screwed i suggest u to start a new one like this with the exact same question as in the beginning...just a suggestion...
ps: im not saying that u screwed the thread, but is screwed...
I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!
You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella
Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!
Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?
So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )
Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?
It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.
Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)
If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...
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Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.
MIZZO1628 said:
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop
LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!
Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.
So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?
Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?
Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.
Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it
There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.
This is my first post.
I have owned a 8125 (wizard) for a year. I'm getting the tilt (399 from premier) soon. Before I do this I have a few questions if those who own can answer:
Is there a way to put the HTC Rom on the Tilt?
If so, How does it run?
Can you unlock the GPS? If so, does can you use Tom Tom? Can I use the GPS for free without using Telenav?
I really only care about the GPS, because my 8125 is pretty similar other than that.
Let me know please!
Wolfskin
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This is my first post.
I have owned a 8125 (wizard) for a year. I'm getting the tilt (399 from premier) soon. Before I do this I have a few questions if those who own can answer:
Is there a way to put the HTC Rom on the Tilt?
If so, How does it run?
Can you unlock the GPS? If so, does can you use Tom Tom? Can I use the GPS for free without using Telenav?
I really only care about the GPS, because my 8125 is pretty similar other than that.
Let me know please!
Wolfskin
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Just go to the Kaiser upgrading section to find the HardSPL unlocker and the Kaiser ROM to flash.
The GPS on the Tilt is already unlocked so you can use it with any software or data-based navigation program. . . no Telenav subscription needed.
Try reading the Kaiser forum before taking up space with questions that have already been asked about a million times...
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Try reading the Kaiser forum before taking up space with questions that have already been asked about a million times...
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Try being a bit kinder to the newbies. After purchasing a Kaiser I have been back on the boards for the first time in 2+ years and despite 5 straight days now (probably 20-25 full hours reading) this info was new to me.
What is also new to me is the elitist attitude of some members. This is a forum, and the last time I checked this meant it was a gathering place for people to share info. Some people will always be new and ask questios that others find pedantic. I see this pattern on every forum I have ever visited. If you can tell from the topic that it is something that has already been covered, don't read the post, but if you do go to the trouble to read it, AND make a comment, then at least make a helpful suggestion such as, "Try searching on XXX". This not only helps the OP, but others who happen to be "in the same moment" and would like more info too.
sorry but even as a new member I agree with austinsnyc...if the topic is already there, do a search on the forum first and look for maybe 5 minutes before you post redundant questions. This isnt about an elitest attitude, its about being considerate of everyone on the forum and not flooding it with crap that is already there.
austinsync++
doug2873++
The lazy and/or ignorant need to be schooled. And that even includes me on occasion!
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austinsync++
doug2873++
The lazy and/or ignorant need to be schooled. And that even includes me on occasion!
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Yeah me too. But I usually do search.
It wasn't the suggestion to search that I found objectionable, it was the way is was said. It's just not a very nice way to welcome a new poster. I am sure we have all asked stupid questions from time to time. No need to be rude about it. That was the elitist part. If you have em, imagine of your kid's teacher said to your child on the first day of school. "That was a stupid question, stop wasting our time."
Sadly no one came to my defense. Still say I am making a bad call on the change in tone of the forum? Rhetorical question, not looking to start a flame war. My last word on this is to ask others to please be polite. Nuff said.
Unless someone is new to forums (and the internet) in general, they should know to search before asking something, but that doesn't mean older users need to be a jerk if they don't.
Also, sometimes information gets buried in large threads and even though you may use the search, it can be hard to sort through all of the results or a very large thread to pull together all of the information. Sometimes, it's really helpful if a knowledgeable user can paraphrase it all in one place.
Thank you newbie 2. Instead of searching through thread after thread i asked. Your answer on the unlocked gps part of the phone was all i needed !
In wolfs, defense....I've been pouring through the kaiser upgrading sections and just when I think it is safe to put the HTC rom upgrade in my tilt, I read posts like "when will they make this for the tilt?". I'm relatively sure that this upgrade works on the tilt, but am even more sure that I would never know what to do if it didn't...nor would I know what to do if I had to put the AT&T rom back on if I needed to get warranty work done - like I might, since mine absolutely will not beam files via bluetooth right now. I've put a bunch of tweaks on my tilt and love em...thank you everybody sooooo much! But currently am 'ascairt' to put the HTC rom on.
As the title says...
Installed a rom and lost TOMTOM... Just wondering if there is any way to get it back.
TOMTOM was on the phone when i purchased it.
Try to tap your heels together 3 times and say, "there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home".
If that doesnt work the next thing is to check your SD Card for the cab installer or even a folder called 2577.
This section is not for questions and answers, obviously you make a habit of doing things without thoroughly inverstigating first.
Wow jerk much?
How are you able to assume what my habits are?
Either way your post did not help in the slightest.
try go to Tomtom website or go back where U purchased your phone
any chance can get back your tomtom
I know your habits "jerk off" because you have posted your bs question in "Rom Development".
Go find the right place for asking idiotic questions!
Considering this was my 7th post, I really don't think you know my habbits...
Wake up to yourself mate.
You could of just said, "Wrong area" and pointed me to the correct one.
Get off your high horse mate and grow up.
Considering this is your seventh post, rather than posting where ever you think is appropriate how about reading and searching a little or even using some common sense, have some respect for the forum and its members. Not knowing is no excuse!
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have some respect for the forum and its members
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That's rich coming from someone who first called him a jerk off who asks stupid questions. How about helping him out and explaining about posting in the right place. Posting in the wrong area has nothing to do with respect! He made a mistake.
FooisM, just like software that you install on a Windows machine, you'll need the original installation files eg from the SD/CD that the program came on.
this thread is on its rags
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That's rich coming from someone who first called him a jerk off who asks stupid questions. How about helping him out and explaining about posting in the right place. Posting in the wrong area has nothing to do with respect! He made a mistake.
FooisM, just like software that you install on a Windows machine, you'll need the original installation files eg from the SD/CD that the program came on.
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Cheers mate, Ill get in contact with the seller
Oppressa said:
That's rich coming from someone who first called him a jerk off who asks stupid questions. How about helping him out and explaining about posting in the right place. Posting in the wrong area has nothing to do with respect! He made a mistake.
FooisM, just like software that you install on a Windows machine, you'll need the original installation files eg from the SD/CD that the program came on.
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huh? did you read anything in this thread yourself?
this thread definately needs kotex night time pads with wings.
Going no were, closed