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Hi there
I'm trying to downgrade my Qtek9090. I have WinMob 5 and I want it to be the Rom from http://www.orange.ch/offers/orangePhones/spvM2000/spvM2000Rom?ts=1144157178509.
Now, I got the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe and I did just use it like its written...
Now I have Win2003se but none of that stuff provided by Orange in this Rom (At the first start it said some stuff was missing and it xould be deleted). Then I tried again without the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe and still get a country error...
Do I have to re-partition the memory like I did for the WM5 update?
Thx for answers...
greetz
Well for wm5 you most lickly got rid of your ext rom as you wanted it for storage.
So now there is no place to flash the extrom so the cabs that are part of the extrom do not run and thus you get no ORANGE related files.
What you need to do is create a new EXT rom partion and flash the rom again.
This time you can delete the radio.nbf and the NK.nbf and just leave the MS.nbf (it will be a lot faster).
First of all, thanks for the reply!
great...now, how do I do it? Do I need a special size of the rom?
Sorry to say this but.....
Please read wiki
Ta
For more info you can read here
omfg this looks like work..
Sorry MDAIIIUser I used the search button (but only for the forum, my bad)...But anyway, I know you are very busy just read some threads while waiting for an answer...But you're doing a great job...All of the people here in fact...
i'm also downgrading to WM2003SE according to the directions on wiki,
BUT i have 2 questions:
1. i bought my qtek 9090 as a stand-alone qtek9090 (so not combined with a provider). does this mean i don't need the Extended ROM?
2. i aksed this question in another topic aswell, but lateron i found that this topic is more acurate to my question..so sorry for that!
here's the question:
in the manual, it says I have to download my latest favorite WM2003SE ROM version (which in my case is the Dutch Qtek DANGA001 version 1.40.00, EXTROM 1.40.556),
and FROM that file i should copy the nk.nbf to my "\DOWNGRADE TO WM2003SE\" folder..
and THAT'S what seems impossible to me, since the Rom-update i downloaded is an .exe application, and not a .zip or .rar archive..
so how should i get/extract/copy the nk.nbf file out of this Rom-update .exe file..?
i simply skipped that step but now my device keeps crashing every minute (even DURING soft and hard resets!)
HELP!
spdfrx said:
and THAT'S what seems impossible to me, since the Rom-update i downloaded is an .exe application, and not a .zip or .rar archive..
so how should i get/extract/copy the nk.nbf file out of this Rom-update .exe file..?
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execute the application and search in C:\Documents and settings\NAME\Local settings\Temp for your file.
if you don't find it, continue on your application and try again.
thats how i had to do extract the files from my swisscom update file (wich was an exe file too)
I downgraded my spv m2000 from wm5 to 2003 and everything is fine apart from the phone doesn't work.
It just says no service all the time, can anyone help please?
Thanks.
Check the radio version on the boot screeen to see if the device sees it.
Check that you see the version under settings.
Check that you have a sim in the device
Check that you not in flight mode.
ok now onit thanks for the quick reply
Be also aware that in the boot process the radio can sometimes not load, no know reason for this but fixed with a soft reset (stick up the hole).
My device sees the radio version on the boot screen (1.06.02)
I can see the version under settings and i have a sim in and flight mode is off but still no luck.
Shall i try another sim?
Try your sim in another phone (and another sim in that phone).
What do you see at the top of the screen (should be a bar chart with an x) if you have no link.
I put another sim in and now it's all fine GPRS and Phone works
thanks for the help.
Would the device be affected if you had a pin code on the sim?
The sim code is only for the sim card.
Without the sim pin code you can not unlock the sim card.
Thus the radio will not connect to a carrier and you will not beable to phone out.
A phone lock is a lock that stops you putting in a different sim card into the phone (thus you need to stay with the same carrier)
This is a device lock and needs to be unlocked on the device to be able to put in a different sim from a different carrier.
Tool found on wiki
I would think that your first sim is either no longer valid (out of date or is a pre-paid with no money) or it has a sim lock that you dont not have the pin code of and failed to mention that it asked you for it.
Anyway have fun with the BA and read wiki for more info.
Thanks
Hi guys!
I have a couple of questions.
Last week I performed WM2003SE to WM2005 upgrade on my BA. It comes from German T-Mob. I bought it second hand, so I guess that the ROM I found on it was loaded some way along the road (it was WWE, and my device has a German QWERTZ keyboard layout, meaning it originally had to come with some non-WWE ROM..right?)
When I bought it, it had O2 ìsoftwareî (thatís called extended ROM, right?) v1.31, Radio v1.06 and Protocol 1337.45.
I had some problems installing newest WM2003SE as I was getting error about wrong CID when running .exe update file, so I went for Helmiís 2005 pack. Later I realized I should just rename .exe to .zip and extract needed files from WM2003 .exe updates. I used BaUpgradeUt (of course failed due to the wrong CID) and MaUpgradeUt_noID.
Firstly I upgraded to Helmiís WM2005 (v5.04.09 WWE), but after finished upgrade I started getting some errors for some missing or corrupt executable files after device starts up (see the screenshots), which disappeared when I reinstalled 2005 (reinstalling it for the second time I got those 3 check boxes on a boot loader screen, which I didnít see when doing the installation for the first time..that could be the source of my problems after the first installation). Someway along those actions I also cleared my storage (with a tool provided in Helmiís ROM, that has a red recycle icon). After deleting storage items, I found many apps found on original Helmiís ROM missing (good..I didnít need those
Then I decided to update my radio from 1.05 to 1.16 and it went ok, after I managed to connect the device in boot loader mode to USB cradle.
- Now, I find it rather strange to have that color-striped boot loader screen still appearing when I boot my device. Shouldnít it be replaced with some WM default or ROM assigned bitmap?
- I used GetDeviceData to determine the exact data of my BA and prior to upgrade it gave me something like this:
PH20B WWE some_letter T-MOB102 followed by ROM and Radio version.
After the ROM update (2003SE to 2005) I got this as a result:
PH20B WWE A T%CID? 5.04.09. 1.06.00 % 4
Then I upgraded Radio...
PH20B WWE A T%CID? 5.04.09. 1.15.00 % 4
As you can see, T-MOB102 part disappeared and itís replaced with an unknown CID part. I guess thatís why I still see the boot loader colorful stripes when booting/soft resetting my device. Is it a big problem, as the device works fine? Is it a normal occurrence after using MaUpgradeUt_noID?
- That ìProtocolî version/number (1337.45 in my case)..can that be updated and what is it?
- After the upgrade I noticed that my phone is not recognized as a PPC any more, but as a computer instead. The problem is that now it offers less services over bluetooth (only Active Sync on Mac and Network Access Point on Windows). On Windows computer, I cannot send any files through btooth OBEX and itís very annoying. Is that a problem with bluetooth and WM2005 on these devices one could read about on forums? Any way to fix it? I must say that I havenít installed the newest bluetooth stack (how can I check what stack version do I have now?).
I hope you're still awake after reading this
Answer is simple http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
And you will receive the same answer whenever you ask beginner question
I appreciate your advice, however, you must know that although some of my questions were beginner questions not all of them were such and those still require direct answers rather than some generic answer you provided.
I read the 80% of the BA Wiki before posting here and I haven't found the answers I need.
For instance, I still don't know why those bootloader stripes are still present..or what happened to my CID part in device data. If it's messed up, how come it's working? If it's ok, why it's not mentioned on the Wiki?
You may correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading all of that, I still don't know wha't really included in the backup or why my SMS messages are still there after I performed a hard reset, but my e-mail settings are deleted...
Saying "Eat if you're hungry will not solve the problem of a hungry one".
In general, that approach of forwarding noobs or people with such questions to a first page of an ecyclopediae is not a solution.
You're right wiki isn't enough, there is a search! And let me told you a little secret - there is a google, (you know google dont you?)
After reading wiki you MUST realize that:
Bootloader - no way of removing stripes!
CID part - You didn't follow the step-by-step proccess in wiki. And because you are beginner you should follow the Helmi install procedure (or read through WM5-BA page) And what is more important you dont even know anything about CID (use google - it is in wiki but not in BA section)
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Because its not important its not mentioned in BA wiki.
Read something about WM5 how it works and the differences between 2003SE. (Like a persistent storage) <- answer to your SMS and hardreset question. And use google to find more information rather than asking more question
Was updating my dads SPV M700 to WM6 and have hit a problem ....
The rom image updated ok, and I used AX3L's 2.0.8.
Unfortunately during the GSM update the software crashed, and froze at 51%. I had to re-boot and now I can't use the phone.
When I re-set the phone it says No GSM at the HTC screen and then stops loading at the WM6 front page.
I can get into the Bootloader by pressing the Power/Camera/Reset buttons, but when I try to re-flash GSM is says error 270, corrupt image. I have tried several files with no luck.
I would appreciate a hand ..... My dad is going to kill me
Thanks
gaz_az
try press
power button + camera + reset
to enter usb mode
then reflash the radio again.
hope this works
You can try 2 other things!
Download the Radio ROM again- you may have had a downlaod glitch in the 1st one. V1.38 is the best one to try.
Download and install the offical HTC WM5 ROM- this should be a full ROM including Radio, so sometimes completes more effectively. If you are brave, you can them retry the WM6 flash!
since bricking a hermes i stopped taking chances doing rom upgrades via usb..
the method that is most reliable ad safe is... via SD card
extract RUU_signed file from the upgrade pack (use winrar) and then copy it to the root of a blank sd (mini or micro etc) and rename to TRINIMG.nbh ..enter bootloader and follow the steps.. its fast and most reliable
Ok - Thanks for the help, but no luck so far. I have tried the suggestions above !
Heres what I have done ...
Hard reset - no change
Tried to re-flash with WM6 and WM5 cooked roms, but an error comes up saying the images are corrupt. This happens with any image I try.
I have also tried a legit HTC WM5 rom upgrade image, but it doesn't work either. It gives an error at 1% saying invalid device ID.
What I can do it get into the standard bootloader screen, which shows I have a USB connection when plugged in. If I allow the phone to boot up it stops at the WM6.0 picture. It won't go far enough to allow me to get an activesync connection.
ANy more adivice would be greatly appreciated !
gaz_az
Next thing then, is to try and obtain a downloaded Orange M700 ROM- there are a few links hereabouts.
For some reason, your device seems to want only its home ROM. If that fails there are other methods before sending back to Orange!
I downloaded an Orange rom, but still no luck. It gets to 1% again, then says there is a error/corrupt image file. Same as any of other cooked images !
What next ??
well if you were my son, i would advice you,to buy a plane ticket for somewhere very far,leave the house while i sleep,and pray every day you have left in your life,for not find you on my way
uhm, question about boot loader and flash on boot loader mode.
I copy file TRINIMG.nbh to root card mini SD, and i can't go as you say...
always Tri colors screen....
gaz_az said:
I downloaded an Orange rom, but still no luck. It gets to 1% again, then says there is a error/corrupt image file. Same as any of other cooked images !
What next ??
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You are running out of options
Your choices now are to go further down the 'fiddling' route, or give up and return the phone to Orange for repair. At least if its is stuck in bootloader, they may not spot that you have been meddling
If you want to play more, there are very few Trinity specific fixes, but possibly some of the questions/answers in the Hermes WiKi may help, though the Bootloader versions etc won't be relevant.
[Edit: When you are in Bootloader mode, what version numbers are showing on the screen?]
is it so wrong i was smiling when i read this.
does make me wonder if u told ur dad what u were going to do or whether u were trying to be cocky by giving him a better phone without him knowing.
all i can say is, UNLUCKY !
I must say things are looking bad - I think it would take an original orange SPV rom if I could get one. Been to the orange website, but no luck !! Anyone know if orange released one ??
Been looking at the Hermes unbrick thread. Is there a way to enter KITL debug mode in the trinity ??
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P.S. Dad knew I was upgrading the phone, already did it once for him and it went ok. No sure he knew I could acutually kill it
No Orange haven't released an official rom.
Well Orange UK haven't Orange FR have, so unless he speaks and reads french that's not an option.
Well, French or not, you've probably got nothing to lose by trying to load the official French ROM
Go Here and click the Mise-a-jour link (which is French for ROM) and it will open a zip file download without the need to verify the IMEI number.
If that doesn't work, nothing will! If it does load, you will at least have a working phone, even if it is in French, and you can go back over the ROM update again, remembering to apply the SPL Bootloader first!
Still "not allow", i don't know what the hell Orange was doing with P3600?
Lock everything?........it's suck !!!
No luck with the French ROM. Same thing gives an error message about wrong device ID.
I am one step from chucking it in the bin. Any more last minute ideas ??
erh, bizzard,i can't use "wtty.exe" to view my CID ...
i tape "info 2"and it always appear
Cmd>info 2
CID: Wait interpreter timeout
HTCSF kEØ(HTCE
Cmd>
...............................
Someone have issue for that?
If i can view CID code,i think i can find the right ROM to re-vivre...all suck !!!
erh, hey guy, your boot loader is english or french? sorry if it's the most stupid question of the day......i think french device use french boot loader,right?
i mean, when screen tri-color appear, use mini SD card to flash ROM, the language it apprear itself is english or french.
p/s : i was telephone to the HTC center, and they say as usual, send it to the center repair.
For french user address is : be sure u have enough garanty which required.
send them and make them crazy.....
CIRMA ELECTRONIQUE
9A14 CHEMIN DE BARATEAU
ZONE INDUSTRIEL DE LA LANDE
33451 SAINT Loubès
If you can figure out how to compile splxploit, you can fix this, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308691
thank anyway,i will try it before tomorrow,cause i will send them my device for repair.
Hey there everyone, I am pretty new to this forum so I must apologize for throwing you all into the deep end. I recently purchased an o2 XDA mini S second hand from a guy on boards.ie here in Ireland. I got the phone and really liked it because it allowed me to get rid of my Dell Axim X3i and mp3 player and keep it all in one device.
After a little bit of more research I discovered that I could remove some of the bloatware from the o2 xda mini S by just hard resetting and choosing the basic option which I than did. Still not satisfied with the overall performance of the XDA I decided to try a rom upgrade. Not wanting to do a totall overhaul I decided to just do a radio upgrade first.
My device is sim unlocked, it was like that when I bought it. I used the latest wizard service tool to CID unlock the device before I even flashed the phone. I also used the wizard service tool to change the nk.nbf file within the o2 mini S radio update into 96000000-GSM.nb. I then used this file to write to the GSM radio code (Bdk 1) according to the wizard service tool in the hopes that it would upgrade my radio version.
Well when I restarted, nothing of the sort happened, on the boot screen I noticed I was now missing my GSM version and when the phone finally got into windows mobile, it did not pick up any signal even though beforehand it could. The phone also became super slow to the point where it was unusable.
I have gone into bootloader mode subsequently after reading on this forum and tried to reflash with a number of updates with active sync disabled and nothing else running with the phone connected via usb to the pc. None of the updates would even pick up the phone or allow me to flash it.
My phone is pretty much screwed, I have a spare so it is not that big of an issue but I would like to make this usable again if at all possible. So my question is how do I flash a rom while the phone is in bootloader mode?
P.S I forgot to include the Current boot screen details:
IPL - 1.05
SPL - 1.05
OS - 1.5.4.2
Hi,
You can use the Wizard Love Rom from here http://rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar
Hey there, thanks for the advice, I did download that ROM but like I said before, none of the roms manage to flash my XDA because they all cannot seem to connect to it. Activesync does not even pick it up in windows mode, and even when I have it connected in bootloader mode via usb and I double click on the love rom, it goes through the motions but never managed to "verify the information with the pda"
Try a stock Tmobile ROM but not from bootloader. Also, I would check the activesync app on the device. Make sure it's set to use USB as the default connection method.
A few other steps to try...
Uninstall ActiveSync and install an older version. If still no go, try a newer version.
Try a different USB cable and/or USB port.
Try a different computer with XP, not Vista.
Try flashing it without the SIM card or any memory cards.
If all else fails, you can try the SD card flashing method. There are instructions in the Wiki on how to do it, but always a stock ROM.
Try this one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311027
Updated IPL/SPL and radio 2.69
Hey Devis, I think I have come one step closer, I tried all the suggestions that you made. Except well now my phone will not even go into the operating system when I switch it on. It will boot and the version numbers show but then it just resets itself.
I tried a different usb cable and I am not using vista, tried a different pc and the same result. The one place I did have some marginal success was the sd card method.
Basically what happened is that It backed up the OS from my phone and then reloaded it, not exactly what I wanted since the OS and rom are both screwed on the phone so my question at this point is, is there anyway using the SD card method to load one of the stock roms onto my phone?
I searched around the net and found the opposite to the "r2sd all" function, would be the "s2d" function, would that allow me to flash the phone with a stock rom?
Thanks for your time, I am going to call it a night here in ireland and head to bed.
Ok, if the phone resets then you probbably have a dead/dying battery. Charge it for about an hour or so using the wall charger, not the USB cable. Try to restart it and see if you can get in the OS. I was looking in the SD card method thread and some guy was successful at restoring the image from the SD even though his OS had died. He then had a fully functional phone.
The other thing to do would be to get the image file from someone that has a living and breathing wizard, preferably one with a stock ROM. Since this method is the equivalent of making an image of a PC using Ghost, the restoration of such an image to your Wizard should work just fine.
Just make sure that the other Wizard is SIM and CID unlocked. Or just go buy a Wizard from the store, unlock SIM and CID, copy the image on the SD and flash your device. Or... since u've got a new Wizard in your hands, just take the freaking thing appart and swap the guts return the store bought wizard to the store saying that the thing just doesnt freaking work!
As for the AT commands... it is possible that s2d would workfor you, it doesn't work in my wizard. from what i have been reading it appears that the bootloader is password protected and that password is randomly generated. I haven't played long enough with it to figure out how to get the password.
It looks like you've got some "trial and error" processes ahead of you. There is a wealth of info on bootloader AT commands on Wiki, nothing for the Wizard though. But something may work... not sure.
I could try to get you a ROM dump from my Wizard but I already am on SPL/IPL 3.08 and running WM6. the SPL/IPL version alone wouldn't allow you to restore from my backup.
Hey Devis, thanks for your time, just woke up here, will work some more on the phone today and let you know what is going on
Hey Devis, I did not even get a chance to fiddle around with the phone today, from being able to switch on less than 24 hours ago, it does not even want to switch on now so I am going to officially declared it a brick and move on. Will see if anyone can fix it for me, spent way too much time already when I should be working on my dissertation, thanks alot anyway
Sorry to hear that...
I have bricked one phone myself in the past... my old Pana GD87 and I absolutely loved that phone. I know how you feel.
Good luck with your dissertation.
Evenin' all.
Might be a long shot, and I think I walready know the answer but thought I would just double check quickly.
I have about 100 HTC TyTnII phones that are on windows mobile 6.1 and need be downgraded to windows mobile 6.0 due to incompatible software.
Each day i am also having to do the same with a small handful of other TyTnII phones.
I have flashed a load of them with no problems using USB. Yesterday i tried to use an SD card which also worked fine on a test phone that we use for development, but it wont work on phones arriving direct from the factory.
Im pretty certain that its because i ened to unlock the CID (???) or flash the SPL (???) but this is time consuming and tedious.
Is there anyway of doing this part using an SD card? If not, what is the fastest way to do it on the road or on site when i dont have access to my computer?
Any ideas that you can bounce at me would be appreciated, and also it would be a good help if you can verify if what i have said is correct.
Cheers guys.
-AJ
Moved as not ROM Development.
As long as you use the original carrier ROM then CID won't be an issue.
Sorry about posting in the wrong place, was searching the forum for an answer and see a post in this area regarding a similar issue.
When you say original carrier ROM, do you meant the extaxt same rom that came with the phone, or a ROM from the same network provider ect?
They are English Orange WM6.1, so would I need any other English Orange WM6.0 rom? Or am i (probably) mistaken?
Your correct CID checks the vendor ID so you have Orange WM6.1 you will want Orange WM6 ROM as then vendor ID matches.
The other option is to just hard-spl them all wouldn't take long with laptop 5 mins each then you can bypass vendor ID check. "may be easier as don't know if Orange WM6 easily available?"
Would I be able to use WinRar to extract the NBH file from here and use that to flash the phone via SD Card without modifying or touching anything else on the phone?
RUU_Kaiser_ORANGE_UK_1.81.61.2_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.29R_Ship.exe
Just wondering if anyone has got any more info on this?
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Just wondering if anyone has got any more info on this?
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Well if they branded Orange it will work, lol you got so many i thought you would have tried it by now