My Wizard's running low on internal storage, how would I go about getting rid of the extended rom and expanding the internal storage to fill the space it leaves? Would I be able to do a backup using SPB backup, then flash a ROM (not sure which one I'd need), then restore the backup?
I don't think it's currently possible to remove the Extended ROM without somehow rewriting the partition tables but that's beyond most people, including me! However if it was possbile then it would msot likely be possible to do a straight forward backup and restore so long as it was the same OS image.
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Is there a way to almost duplicate the flash memory, OS, Filesystem, contacts, by backing up the entire memory address? I need to restore it all to a new phone, my screen busted on my old HTC Atlas (T-mobile wing) and i need all my contacts and files. Something like Flash Backup for the razr? Thx
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Is there a way to almost duplicate the flash memory, OS, Filesystem, contacts, by backing up the entire memory address? I need to restore it all to a new phone, my screen busted on my old HTC Atlas (T-mobile wing) and i need all my contacts and files. Something like Flash Backup for the razr? Thx
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There IS a backup system. I think it's called Sprite backup or something. But it doesn't back up the OS and I'm not sure about the filesystem either...
Yep its Sprite Backup, and its the best one out there, it Backup/restore everything but the OS .............. your filesystem, Registry, Settings, contacts, Messages etc. ......................... I walk around with a most recent backup of my device on my Storage card and if I ever have to hardreset while I am on the road I dont have to wait untill I get home to setup my phone the way I want it .........................
The other one Is called SPB Backup, but it does not compare to Sprite. There is a good Comparison between both software HERE
The screen is busted on this phone, is there not a way to dump the rom like cooking a rom and then write it to a new phone?
Not for the things in the storage. Just for the ROM itself. Not without being able to install a program to it.
Hi, there are so many ROM's to try and I don't like to go trough all the trouble of installing programs and tweaks all the time.
I would like to setup one ROM for primary use make a complete backup of the phone, programs settings etc.
Than flash another ROM try it and if it is not working as expected to return to the previous ROM and setup.
Something like making a HDD image on a PC before trying a different OS.
Any ideas how to do this?
Mobile devices don't have HDD installed,therefore partitioning is not possible,Roms are flashed to the Memory of the phone.So only one Rom can be flashed!!!
Um....Based on mDOC specification, The flash chip DO have partitions, and actually you can get 10MB more for data storage if the ROM eliminated the ExtROM partition (IPL/SPL, OS ROM, Radio ROM, ExtROM and user data are actually in same flash chip, just in different partitions).
However, you know that The mDOC chip in Wizard is only 128MB. It is not possible to have 2 OS installed in the same mDOC disk becaue you aren't possible to get enough space. Even if you get enough space, you need to hack the SPL to have your desired partition loaded and relocate the user partition.
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It is not possible to have 2 OS installed in the same mDOC disk becaue you aren't possible to get enough space. Even if you get enough space, you need to hack the SPL to have your desired partition loaded and relocate the user partition.
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The idea was not to have two OS'es on the device.
I just wanted to try out a different ROM, but after reflashing the previous ROM to be able to restore the applications and settings as they were before flashing.
something like:
Flash ROM_A
Install Applications
Tweak and setup device.
Make Backup of everything.
Flash ROM_B
see if it fits, is it OK or not, etc.
If not, Flash ROM_A,
Restore Backup for ROM_A
Return to regular usage....
Any ideas on how to do this?
Just get a copy of ROM_A, then use SPB Backup to backup your user data before flash ROM_B...
In case of problem, just flash ROM_A and restore the SPB Backup.
OK, I'll try that.
hey guys, since your apps are saved in the ext, after you wipe them for a full wipe ROM, what program do you use to get them back?
I am looking for a program (preferably free) which will let me save then recover my apps, if possible it would be sweet if it had like a batch mode where it could mass recover all the "ticked" apps or something.
Thanks for any help finding such a program. I looked a little bit but only found one pay app which did this.
Once again thx for any help!
You can't recover them once you wipe it, if you format a flash drive everything on it is gone forever.
I would suggest you make a nandroid or bart then take the apps of them and you can install them again.
1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?
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1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?
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1) They backup the apps before you wipe
2) Bart and Nand are both on your SD's FAT32 partition.You can put in on your computer to salvage the apps when ever you want.
1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.
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1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.
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Bart includes nandroid but also backs up the ext partition. If you use Bart before you wipe and install another rom, you will have your programs setup exactly like they were when you restore back to your original rom.
You can backup just the apps off the ext and put them back after you load the new rom. I am not sure about at batch install.
Mybackup and there are probably some others in the market.Root explorer might allow you to copy files.
Hi all, I did a nandroid restore and it only partially restored my phone content, for example it did restore
- hotkeys
- sms
- wallpaper,
but didn't restore
- contacts
- homescreen setup
- applications (and data).
It worked perfectly well when I tried it, but last time it didn't. Here is what I did:
Installed 6.1 per ClockworkMod without Google Apps and did a nandroid backup as I was asked, booted into 6.1, rebooted, flashed Gapps tiny 201020 something, rebooted, didn't come past "tap the android to begin" (don't know why tapping didn't do anything), so I restored the backup I did prior to installing 6.1 and it restored only what I wrote above.
Any help will be greatly appreciated guys!
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but didn't restore
- contacts
- homescreen setup
- applications (and data).
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1. Contacts get restored from Google.
2. Did you use alternative launcher before (i.e ADW or LP). If so, the only way Nand would restore it, if you still have it on your phone but what you say is that it did not restore any apps which leads me to next point.
2. Did you have your apps on SD card? Did you do Nand+Ext backup or just Nand? Regular Nandroid back-up will not touch your ext partition. If you did just a Nandroid backup and wiped your ext partition - your apps are gone for good.
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1. Contacts get restored from Google.
2. Did you use alternative launcher before (i.e ADW or LP). If so, the only way Nand would restore it, if you still have it on your phone but what you say is that it did not restore any apps which leads me to next point.
2. Did you have your apps on SD card? Did you do Nand+Ext backup or just Nand? Regular Nandroid back-up will not touch your ext partition. If you did just a Nandroid backup and wiped your ext partition - your apps are gone for good.
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Thank you for your answer! Yes I had 6.0 before 6.1 with ADW. Nandroid did restore one or two apps, but not all... (just found that out). Yes I had some apps on my sd card but nandroid didn't recover them, neither the others. Just the few I mentioned before, but I had more on my SD and more on my internal flash storage. And no, I had no ext partition of sd card (copied some of them via froyo apps2sd). Also, I didn't remove any of my files from my SD (except for some songs to make more free space).
It seems like Clockwork didn't warn me that I had not enough free space on my SD and the backup had not enough space... However I managed to get the data I needed with this tool from a German forum: http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-ha...6339-nandroid-backup-auslesen.html#post592908
Copy your .img to your computer, open with and choose the unyaffs.exe, works perfectly well
Now I still don't know why I wasn't able to get past the "Getting Started" Android first steps, but I'm going to flash again (this time with everything safely backed up) and see if it works this time.
Glald you figured it out. Hopefully you'll have better luck with it next time around.
Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
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can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
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Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
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