IPL and SPL = brick - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Well today I tried to just do the IPL and SPL flash from the tmobile rom. Apparently, thats a bad thing. Thank god for Warranty. Bricked it almost instantly. That will be the last time I try that.

Nope -- sorry. Warranty won't cover bricking/flashing your phone with anything other than an official ROM.
Your best bet is to try to get it back into bootloader and reflash. If that can't be done, you've acquired a really expensive paperweight.

nottoosmart said:
Well today I tried to just do the IPL and SPL flash from the tmobile rom. Apparently, thats a bad thing. Thank god for Warranty. Bricked it almost instantly. That will be the last time I try that.
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Define "brick". You aren't saying what it does or doesn't do (ie: what exactly happened to make you say its bricked). You also haven't said if its CID unlocked (I assume it is since your sig seems to indicate you were running WM6). You also aren't saying if this is a G3 or G4 device (the IPL/SPL you list in your sig would indicate G3, but you have to be sure of that).
Try turning the phone off (if it still powers on and off. Or remove the battery if you can't get it to turn off, then put the battery back in once its off). Then plug in the USB cable, press and hold the camera button, then press the power button to turn it on (with the camera button still pressed). If you get the rainbow screen with the USB indicator in the lower left, you can then try using that to downgrade to a 2.x ROM (T-Mobile 2.26 shipping one is good) or all the way back down to the Button 1.05 ROM.
Provide more details and one of the gurus may be able to assist. And details of exactly what you did to get to the point you are at would be very helpful too (either to assist you, or to help others learn not to do whatever it is that you did if it is truly "bricked").

It will not turn on. It is a hardware issue. And according to HTC within the warranty, the only issue they will not cover is any physical damage caused to phone. I had it boot to os then it just turned off. Never to turn back on again.
Basically I extracted the IPL/SPL from the TMobile 2.26 os. Tried just flashing those but I dont think i set them correctly in the nk file. As for power, It gets none. So i cant even get it to turn on.
Its a G3 fully unlocked. Ive been working on writing my own version of WM6. I might wait now after this little deal.

Well, after getting my replacement today, I tried to power it up and it wouldnt. Took the new phone and battery to Service center. Apparently what happened is that the battery shorted out and killed the phone. Battery was covered under accessories warranty. So hopefully tomorrow i will be up and running.

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I Think Its Bricked!!!!!

OH MY GOD I WAS TRYING TO GET MY PHONE BACK TO FACTORY DEFAULD AND IT WENT TO SWITCH THE PHONE INTO BOOTLOADER AND IT SAID IT WAS A COMMUNICATIONS ERROR AND THE 8125 NEVER CAME BACK ON , THE CHARGER LIGHT DOESNT COME ON IF I PLUG IT IN TO THE WALL CHARGER, BUT IF I TAKE THE BATTERY OUT THE SCREEN WILL GO WHITE FOR A SHORT SECOND AND THE CHARGER LIGHT WILL FLICKER
DO YOU THINK ATT WILL TAKE IT BACK I HAD IT 6 DAYS AND IT WAS HARD SPL 2
Srry for my bad english
You should have a 30 day warranty on the device from store you purchased it from. If not, just contact HTC support if the device will not boot.
so just make up some excuse to send it to att
Be careful when trying to lie to AT&T or T-Mobile. If your device is CID unlocked then your warranty is void. They may not realize this at first but once they dis-assemble the device for refurbishment they will and they may be able to trace it back to you so just be really careful.
can you get into bootloader mode?
are you sure the battery was charged enuff to reboot again?
try changing the battery if you have another fully charged one adn try to get into bootloader ode if you can then youre fine dude
dharvey4651 said:
Be careful when trying to lie to AT&T or T-Mobile. If your device is CID unlocked then your warranty is void. They may not realize this at first but once they dis-assemble the device for refurbishment they will and they may be able to trace it back to you so just be really careful.
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Don't try to scare of people!
I exchanged my MDA three times no problem for CID unlocked half years ago! it will not void your warranty!
cgigate said:
Don't try to scare of people!
I exchanged my MDA three times no problem for CID unlocked half years ago! it will not void your warranty!
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A friend of mine screwed up a G4 8125 he had (I tried to warn him about not flashing anything he found) after he had CID unlocked and flashed some rom from another website (it wasn't from here). He sent the phone in to Cingular telling them that the phone had quit working. They sent him a replacement with no questions asked. About 1 month later he received his old phone back with a letter stating his warranty had been voided due to software upgrades they had found he had done, and he had a charge on his next bill for $399 for the replacement phone they had sent him. He fought Cingular for a couple of months over it, but they held firm to what they had found had been done, and last I knew he finally just paid the bill (over time).
So, I'm glad you were able to do exchanges with T-Mobile, but I know first hand someone that got burned trying to do this, and Cingular did know what had been done. Its not an urban legend, or a story just to scare people. Using tools here will void your warranty. I think in most cases the carriers will not determine this (Like yourself, another friend of mine that I put Crossbow Unloaded on his phone, had issues, and Cingular replaced it with no issues), but it does happen...
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A friend of mine screwed up a G4 8125 he had (I tried to warn him about not flashing anything he found) after he had CID unlocked and flashed some rom from another website (it wasn't from here). He sent the phone in to Cingular telling them that the phone had quit working. They sent him a replacement with no questions asked. About 1 month later he received his old phone back with a letter stating his warranty had been voided due to software upgrades they had found he had done, and he had a charge on his next bill for $399 for the replacement phone they had sent him. He fought Cingular for a couple of months over it, but they held firm to what they had found had been done, and last I knew he finally just paid the bill (over time).
So, I'm glad you were able to do exchanges with T-Mobile, but I know first hand someone that got burned trying to do this, and Cingular did know what had been done. Its not an urban legend, or a story just to scare people. Using tools here will void your warranty. I think in most cases the carriers will not determine this (Like yourself, another friend of mine that I put Crossbow Unloaded on his phone, had issues, and Cingular replaced it with no issues), but it does happen...
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Thank you.
I do not lie to people or try to scare them... I am merely looking out for people. Fortunately when I received my handset exchange, I had a G4 that was not CID unlocked and I just put the original firmware back on it before sending it in since it was hardware reasons that I sent it back.
now im scared and dont know what to do the battery was fully charged
i was trying to frlash the original rom and the phone bombed when it went to bootloader,
No need to be scared. I was just looking out for your wallet.
Are you using Vista? Vista cannot talk to your device in bootloader mode.
Also, I highly doubt your device is really bricked. It takes something really stupid to brick your device. Unless you flashed a G3 IPL/SPL to a G4 device or vice versa, your device cannot be permanently bricked. There's got to be a way to fix it.
List all information about your device... service provider, model of phone, IPL/SPL, Whether you think it is a G3 or G4, and a history of everything you did to your phone since you started messing with it.
Hopefully with all of that information, we can figure out what you did wrong to cause this and hopefully find a solution.
Try to get back into boot loader.
Pull the battery out, then put it back in
Hold camera button and press the power button.
It should take you to a rainbow screen (bootloader mode)
If it does, then you are ok. No harm no foul...
Then try and reflash the latest Cingular 2.25 release available from HTC's website
If it does not turn on, then you probably toasted the battery or the mainboard. HTC has a long warranty on hardware issues. They dont cover the battery, but AT&T will, if the phone replacement does not get your phone back up. This is what happened to me. All you have to do is tell them you plugged the phone into charge (which you were doing without even knowing it) and then the phone went dead, never too boot again.
Thats exactly what I told them, with my CID unlocked G3. They replaced and I was all good.
Everyone has a diffrent tale to tell so take the advice as just that. Someone elses experience. Hope this helps.
Its a 8125 g4 the hard spl cingular not sim unlocked the phone's light flickers when i take the battery out i purchased the refurb one and i was reading att's website it said somethin about they will charge you the online price well its only 80 bucks just in case
i knew i shouldve traded with my neice for her G3 , I ordered three 1 g4 and 2 g3's
i Was going to tell them exactly that but i wanted to check here because u guys r smart by the way i charged it this morn and went to flash it back to factory and it bombed do you think the battery is dead
Ok, so enough with the horror stories (my intent wasn't to scare you, but just make it clear, I have seen AT&T back charge someone, so you (and others) can understand the risks)...
Now, lets see if we can recover this device for this guy...
First thing first. Pull the battery out of the phone and leave it out for an hour (or more).
Next - Pull your SIM card out. Make sure the contacts are clean on the card. Put the SIM card back in and make sure its seated well.
Now, put the battery back in. Try to turn on the phone (I doubt it works, yet, but lets give it a shot). If by chance the phone does turn on (most likely to the bootloader mode, then hook up the USB cable and try flashing the Official rom for this device.
If it doesn't turn on (what I expect), then pull the battery again and leave it out for 15 mins. While the battery is out, try to turn on the phone once. This is just to discharge any charge that may be in the device.
After 15 mins, put the battery back in and DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON. Now, get your AC wall charger for your phone, and plug your phone in. Again, do NOT try to turn it on yet, just plug it in. Let it stay hooked up to the wall charger for 1 hour without doing anything else to the phone. I'm hoping that at some point during this time, the battery charge light may come on. If the light does come on then let it charge up.
If the charge light still doesn't come on, then leave it plugged in and try to turn on the phone. I'm hoping by this time it will work. If it doesn't then you may have to do a search on these forums for JTAG and look at the hardware option of getting your phone back (I've never done a JTAG operation so I can't help you with it. In the Wizard forum there were discussions of this last winter / spring where someone rescued their bricked phone.
Hope this helps...
just waitin and hopes this works if it does how can i repay you? Free computer software (not Warez) a legit purchased program
the-equinoxe said:
Usage:
-connect your device
-Start hard_SPL-G4.exe
-Push the "Check DOC" button
-> The tool now checks whether your device is truly a G4, if not, it will give you an error and stops.
-> after this a dos box pops up, and it loads the softSPL to your device, to enable hard-SPL flashing.
-> then a Rom Update Utility will start, ONLY proceed if your screen is white!
-Proceed with the upgrade, it will only take a minute.
After reboot the IPL version is : 2.21.0001 and the SPL is 2.21.olip
Now you have Hard SPL
You can flash the ROMs with the RUU in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU (thanks for the tip Boto).
So no need to downgrade before upgrade anymore.
But don't flash ROMs containing IPL/SPL.
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As I have mentioned before in this post:
You shouldn't try to update ROM's with IPL/SPL after HARD SPL.
BUT: If you want to update IPL/SPL for G4 after hard SPL, do as following:
-disassemble ROM with IPL/SPL of your liking
Usage: typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
-reassemble the ROM or IPL/SPL with NKnbftool.
Make shure you only use G4 IPL/SPL for your G4, those are the IPL_2 and SPL_2 files created by typho5.exe.
-copy the nk.nbf you just created to SOFT SPL Folder
-start Soft SPL and flash the IPL/SPL.
You will lose the hardSPL though!
Typho5.exe and nknbftool are available in most kitchens.
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I already did most of the work for you. Linked below is the Official AT&T IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 in nk.nbf format with SoftSPL. Just download from the megaupload link below and use SoftSPL to flash the new IPL/SPL. This will remove HardSPL and you should be able to restore the AT&T Official Rom.
REMOVE HardSPL
EDIT:: I know this is not much help to you now, but should you be able to get your device to turn back on, this is what you're going to need to do.
look man I had experienced a problem if it is like yours I can tell you what I did to solve it?
I had a problem in I-mate jamin G3 after upgrading with a wrong rom It doesn't work
If i connect the device to the charger it lights with the 3 color screen
but if i connect it to the usb it flicker with no connection to activesync.
I went to the service center and they told me I have to replace the mainboard
this meant that about 400 $ in my country.
I searched this forum until I found a thread guided me to resolve my problem without changing my device's board.
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OH MY GOD I WAS TRYING TO GET MY PHONE BACK TO FACTORY DEFAULD AND IT WENT TO SWITCH THE PHONE INTO BOOTLOADER AND IT SAID IT WAS A COMMUNICATIONS ERROR AND THE 8125 NEVER CAME BACK ON , THE CHARGER LIGHT DOESNT COME ON IF I PLUG IT IN TO THE WALL CHARGER, BUT IF I TAKE THE BATTERY OUT THE SCREEN WILL GO WHITE FOR A SHORT SECOND AND THE CHARGER LIGHT WILL FLICKER
DO YOU THINK ATT WILL TAKE IT BACK I HAD IT 6 DAYS AND IT WAS HARD SPL 2
Srry for my bad english
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I read somewhere on this forum that if you want to flash in bootloader mode, you have to switch off USB connection in ActiveSync, go into bootloader mode and then connect the phone to the PC. After that flash your original ROM.
I also had an issue that my wizard battery would not charge. I used an third party USB wall charger, that wasn't good enough... I had to use the HTC wall charger to recharge the battery, it has a little more power.

bricked my phone(not 3 color screen thread)

got a tmobile mda, i think i bricked my phone, it doesnt even turn on to boot screen or the 3 color screen after i pushed those 3 buttons..what should i do? thx in advance
Most of time is the battery problem. Try to find another battery and see what happen..
dunno, but i was flaashing my phone before that, it didnt die for no reason, i think i flash it a wrong rom or something, do u think i bricked my phone/?
Its hard to say.What rom did u used?? What PDA do u have?? Did u flashed it with battery on 50% or less?? Try to get in bootloader mode.
3-buttons? To get into the 3-color bootloader screen should only take 2 buttons. Press and hold camera button. Then use stylus and press then release RESET button. Bootloader screen should show up after 3-5 seconds, then release the camera button.
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3-buttons? To get into the 3-color bootloader screen should only take 2 buttons. Press and hold camera button. Then use stylus and press then release RESET button. Bootloader screen should show up after 3-5 seconds, then release the camera button.
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tried that few times, but doesnt boot up, but i dont its the battery, do u guys think its the hardware after i flashed it.
If you are absolutely certain it's not the battery, then it's possible it could be bricked for good.
However, if you had it in bootloader mode very long, a dead battery is very likely. The phone won't charge in bootloader mode. I don't think it'll charge with a bad OS flash either.
Someone once claimed he connected a battery directly to a USB port to charge it. You could always give that a shot.
Probably most importantly is which ROM did you use? Is your phone a G3 or G4? If it's a G3 ROM with IPL/SPL in it, then yes you will permanently brick a G4 phone with that. If it's just an OS by itself without IPL/SPL, it's almost impossible to permanently brick it.
If it's permanently bricked, I think the only shot you have is to reflash it with a JTAG which would involve disassembling the phone.
i flashed my phone many times before and tried many roms and they all worked fine, i have g4 phone by the way, cuz i can read chinese so went and downloaded and rom called english asian rom so hope i could read chineses on my phone, then while i was fllashing it i found that that it wasnt wm6 it was made in 2006, but was too late, after it was done flashing it, the isp nubmer was different from lsp version, for ex:isp says 2.26.xx then lsp says (2.21.xx i with "i" at the end) so i reflashed it back using love rom to wm5 but it doesnt boot up the screen stays at 3 color so i removed the battery see if it can reboot normally then it doesnt turn on ever...
by the way waths jtag can u post a link for me in the forum or its a website, do i have to pay anything?
Hmmm, strange, wizard_love should be okay for the G4. I think if I were you I would try charging the battery (or buy an inexpensive external battery charger) before worrying about JTAG. I don't know if anyone has found JTAG or SPI (similar to JTAG but fewer pins) on the Wizard, but I can tell you that using it is not for the faint hearted!
Here is how JTAG is done on an iPAQ:
http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/
It's a lot of work just to connect the JTAG, and if the JTAG points have never been documented, it's even more difficult (almost impossible) to find them yourself.
lol, it looks so complicated. well any way i think i bricked it, sigh what can i do without it....plz help if u had the same problem that im having, really want my mda back. ty for ur helps GnatGoSplat
GnatGoSplat said:
Hmmm, strange, wizard_love should be okay for the G4. I think if I were you I would try charging the battery (or buy an inexpensive external battery charger) before worrying about JTAG. I don't know if anyone has found JTAG or SPI (similar to JTAG but fewer pins) on the Wizard, but I can tell you that using it is not for the faint hearted!
Here is how JTAG is done on an iPAQ:
http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/
It's a lot of work just to connect the JTAG, and if the JTAG points have never been documented, it's even more difficult (almost impossible) to find them yourself.
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If i buy a new battery and it worked, but the rom already changed my SPL number but not IPL version do u think i can still flash it back to normal rom by using love rom wizard
I think you will need a G4 ROM with IPL and SPL in it to get it completely back to normal since it sounds like maybe that Chinese ROM changed one of those. That is assuming when you said "ISP" you meant either IPL or SPL? Usually the OEM ROMs are best for that.
But after the very last flash you performed, you did see the 3-color screen? That would indicate the bootloader was still working. Maybe it's really bricked, but I would think if the only thing you did to completely kill it off was remove the battery, then it must just be a dead or weak battery.
GnatGoSplat said:
I think you will need a G4 ROM with IPL and SPL in it to get it completely back to normal since it sounds like maybe that Chinese ROM changed one of those. That is assuming when you said "ISP" you meant either IPL or SPL? Usually the OEM ROMs are best for that.
But after the very last flash you performed, you did see the 3-color screen? That would indicate the bootloader was still working. Maybe it's really bricked, but I would think if the only thing you did to completely kill it off was remove the battery, then it must just be a dead or weak battery.
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yeah i the 3 color screen was there after last flash, with different either ips or spl version differ from each other, then i didnt no what to do so i took the battery out and plugged it back in then it wouldnt turn on.. but battery was fully charged when i last flahed it..
After the last flash but before the 3-color screen, did it do a full reboot showing splash screen, etc?
Did you try a hard reset (top 2 buttons, then reset)?
after i flashed it, it stays on that 3 color screen(that was love rom) and doesnt boot up or anything so i didnt no how to do a hard reset back then so i just took the battery out insted of reset it, oh actually i tried soft reset and it doesnt turn off so then i took the battery out
-also after i flashed to that chinese rom i figured something was wrong so i falshed back using love rom right after cuz it wasnt going to boot, but love rom didnt seem to work, stays at 3 color screen
heres what i did : ran love rom-->flashed chinese rom-->didnt boot-->ran love rom-->doesnt boot-->tried soft reset-->took the battery out--> doesnt charge or on.

HELP: can't flash original rom on G3 wizard.

Facts:
QTEK 9100 IPL/SPL 2.17
After HTC logo it goes to QTEK logo, then fades to white and reboots.
After x number of reboots it sometimes boots Windows WM5. No radio though.
Story is long, sorry.
I wanted to upgrade my phone to WM6 last summer.
Since I was careful not to brick my phone i ordered help from IMEI-Check.co.uk.
I got the code and the software and got busy.. It did'nt work however.
First time it seemed to go fine at first but later it reported to have lost communication with the device. On reboot it would display the problems on line 4 and 5 above. I followed advice and reflashed the device with original rom. Now the device was fine again.
I retried the procedure but got the same problem.
again I tried to reflash original rom but now RUU reported "Invalid Vendor ID"
I sent the device to repair but got it back in the same condition I sent it. "Moisture damage". I opened the device but found very litte evidence of moisture damage.
The device have been sitting in a box ever since, I bought a TYTN, but now I would like to see if there is really nothing I can do to bring my Wizard back to life.
Any good advice will be very appreciated.
Regards
/m
Since warranty is void and you already opened the phone i suggest you get an old tooth brush and some alcohol and give a good 'sponge bath' to it just in case there's some short circuit happening in a hidden place. Be sure to have it well dried before inserting the battery (leave unassembled for some hours or use a hair dryer from a large distance)
After that get phone in bootloader mode and write a 1.xx ROM to it to attempt CID unlocking via free procedures.
If that goes well just upgrade to a 2.xx ROM (with IPL/SPL) and then to WM6
good luck
I will try it
but can there really be a short circuit if the device has been in a box for 6+ months? I suppose it's possible.. I'll let you know.

Somebody help me!!!!

So, I have a T-Mobile G1, and lately, I was trying to install different custom ROMs to check out which one suits me.On the Android Spin site I noticed JesterBlur, and looked it up.It said in a thread that in order to install it I must have the Haykuro's SPL.I was previously using cyanogenmod with cm recovery 1.4, and when I installed the SPL the phone asked me to reboot.Ever since, when I press the power button to open it,it gets stuck on th T-mobile G1 screen.No combinations work, including Camera + Power.Any ideas anyone?
It's dead. 1.33.2005 SPL requires the 26i radio, which you should have had already.
if you bought the phone on a contract walk in to the store and say that after accepting an update the phone rebooted and will not turn on. Try so sound as un-techsavvy as possible. They should replace it.
Eitherwise you either need to buy a new one, or replace the motherboard (thus replacing the borked nand).
First of all thanks for replying so quickly.
And secondly.....The phone might not be exactly the T-mobile G1, but an Android Dev Phone 1......I just said T-mobile G1 because they're very similar...Oh and I also tried the conbination Trackball + Power and a blue led appers.Anyone knows what it means?And since I can't quite take it for a service, does anyone know ANY way to restore my phone?ANYTHING!Even if I have to do it manually.....It's useless in this condition anyway.......
Only thing you can do to getting working again is to replace the motherboard. Doesn't look too hard and I'm sure you can pick up G1's with cracked screens on ebay pretty cheap.

Black Screen Help

OK.. so I am an idiot.. I will admit it right away. I downloaded an HARDSPL from a link on another site. The zip was named RHODIUM but inside the SPL exe's were named raphael. I didnt look at the name, ran the update and it said it completed successfully.... and now the Rhodium has a black screen. I waited for 15 minutues and pulled the battery.. now I can't get the thing to power back on. I have tried the Verizon hard reset, the bootloader key sequence.. nothing works.
If I hold down vol up and vol down and press the power button I get a green LED at the power indicator led but the screen is still black. When I plug it in to the USB cable, I hear the USB failure sound for windows 7 and nothing happens.
Does anyone have an idea how to get out of this??
That sounds really bad. I would consider posting in the HardSPL thread itself. There are some very clever people who may frequent that thread, and may be able to help. I take it you have downloaded the proper Rhodium HardSPL and tried it, despite the USB error sound? Also in Device Manager it may show you what the error is, worth a try.
I don't know if you can flash HardSPL via SD card but that may be one option.
Good luck I suspect you're gonna need it
Sorry to say, but if you can't access the bootloader at all, your device is very likely a brick. It's really difficult to fix a damaged or destroyed SPL by yourself. There were some tools made a few years back to help recover from destroyed SPLs, but AFAIK they aren't compatible with the TP2 or most other modern devices, and you have to be security unlocked (which I can pretty much guarantee you aren't).
IMO the best thing to do would be to take it back to the store and play dumb saying that it "just stopped working", in the hopes that they'll give you a new one, but there are no guarantees it'll work. Otherwise, if you're not into lying to the store, you could try sending it in for repair and paying the large fee of replacing the mainboard on a device with a voided warranty. Best of luck to you either way

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