Dear All !
I have successfully upgraded my Trinity to the Dopod 810 Rom. Works fine and has GPS Chip support....but I got a sad surprise: this Rom does only support WDCMA 3G and not UMTS !!! Since I am in Europe, I need either to get back to a UMTS enabled ROM (but I will loose GPS Chip support) or get around the problem with your help in another way. Do you think it is possible to enable the (now) Dopod Trinity to support UMTS ?
Thank you for reply. Please feel free to mail my mailbox [email protected]
Arno
Arnobreker said:
Dear All !
this Rom does only support WDCMA 3G and not UMTS !!!
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They are the same thing.
PS: It's WCDMA not WDCMA
WCDMA (UMTS)
With WCDMA (UMTS) it acts around a portable radio standard of the third generation (3G), which of operators instead of used the so far, GSM based 2G-Netzwerke to be used can. WCDMA (UMTS) supports higher data transmission rates, which offer customers and enterprises world-wide an improved mobile Konnektivität.
UMTS (universal mobile Telecommunications service) is implemented in Europe, in order to replace GSM/GPRS.
WCDMA (Wideband CDMA) is implemented by operators in the USA and Japan, in order to replace TDMA/GSM/GPRS/PDC.
The terms WCDMA and UMTS can be used synonymously.
I had some trouble with 3G with Dopod ROM
Perhaps you need to select the band in phone settings, I am in England on Vodafone and use:
Goto phone, Menu, Options, Band and then choose Auto for Network Type and for Band Choose GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
This gave me back 3G (UMTS) and also works with HSDPA even shows H icon when downloading, very nice speeds indeed sometimes in excess of 1MB.
Hope that helps.
tukan said:
WCDMA (UMTS)
UMTS (universal mobile Telecommunications service) is implemented in Europe, in order to replace GSM/GPRS.
WCDMA (Wideband CDMA) is implemented by operators in the USA and Japan, in order to replace TDMA/GSM/GPRS/PDC.
The terms WCDMA and UMTS can be used synonymously.
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Lieber Tukan, zur Sache: kann mein HTC P3600 Dopod 810, der WCDMA benutzt ins UMTS Netzwerk eines Europaeischen Carriers einloggen oder kann er nur, wie es mir im Moment scheint, GSM/GPRS-Frequenz ausnutzen ?
Dear Tukan, let's go to the point: does my HTC P3600 Dopod D810 that is WCDMA enabled log into a European's Phone Company UMTS network or, as it seems to me now, can it just log into the GSM/GPRS band ?
Thank you/Danke schoen
C
CutePinkSox said:
Perhaps you need to select the band in phone settings, I am in England on Vodafone and use:
This gave me back 3G (UMTS) and also works with HSDPA even shows H icon when downloading, very nice speeds indeed sometimes in excess of 1MB.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you. But, could you please specify the following:
1) are you using a HTC P3600 (Trinity) ?
2) did you flash it with the Dopod ROM that was once available on XDA Developers, now from Rapidshare ?
Thank you
Arnobreker
Of course I am !!!
Look at my signature and the bottom of my previous post post and read my post carefully follow the instructions and you should be okay.
Arnobreker said:
Thank you. But, could you please specify the following:
1) are you using a HTC P3600 (Trinity) ?
2) did you flash it with the Dopod ROM that was once available on XDA Developers, now from Rapidshare ?
Thank you
Arnobreker
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Read the subject of the post please pretty clear which ROM I am using I think but yes is answer anyway.
Look at my signature at the bottom of my previous post quite revealing really
Read again carefully follow the instructions and you should be okay.
Related
I was in a telstra shop today and asked about the WM6 ROM for telstra. The salesman metioned that there had been a few bugs but 2-3 weeks was the current expection.
That's good to hear. At the moment i have a Dopod c730 and Telstra Tre 750 (with the new WM6 voda rom) on it and neither of them can get 3G/HSDPA...only Edge connections. After 3 calls to Telstra they said 1) Dopods aren't supported because we dont sell them and 2) Windows Mobile 6 updates arent supported at all...
I just wish Optus' 3G rollout would speed up!!!!!!!!!!
ha how funny, i have it no problems at all...do you have a next g sim card?!?!?
@aussienick
I too have a Treo750 Telstra but now after the WM6 upgrade is now branded Vodafone.. I can get both 3G and H (which I am assumiing stands for HSDPA) and it automatically switches to H when I am using the internet/data and goes back to 3G.. I use a Voda SIM on this phone..
This sucks
Well this sucks..My Treo with WM5 was working great with the #G speed from telstra, then when updating to AT&T rom it went to edge and now with the Voda rom from Palm UK it only allows me Edge too...
I've had the same problem actually. I started with 3G working find, then went to WM6 ATT rom, then to UK vodafone. Still no 3G just edge.....this doesn't look good. Perhaps we need to go back to the original telstra rom??? Anyone got it?
i've never had a problem. my original rom was the vodafone because i purchased my Treo 750v from overseas. worked great on Three's 3G network although i had to find the modem settings through whirlpool.net
i've upgraded to the ATT WM6 Rom and it was even better... now with HSDPA! everything was pre configured so i didn't have to do anything even!
and after Vanilla-ing the Rom nothing's changed. i get HSDPA when possible. i only get Edge when i'm deep inside a building but i have forced my phone to lock onto an UTMS band only
Could this be the reason,
The AT&T Rom only allows
GSM(900 + 1800 + UMTS 2100
or
GSM(1900 + 850) + UMTS (1900 + 850)
Telstra are using:
GSM 900 / 1800
UMTS 850 (NextG) / 2100 (shared with Three)
amberzombie said:
but i have forced my phone to lock onto an UTMS band only
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Hi, can you tell me how to do this on my treo? maybe that will help me..
aussienick said:
Hi, can you tell me how to do this on my treo? maybe that will help me..
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yeah just go to Menu on the bottom right then Preferences - Phone Settings
tap on the Services tab and go to Band Selection
Under Select Network Type change it to UMTS
then click ok you're done
FSB said:
Could this be the reason,
The AT&T Rom only allows
GSM(900 + 1800 + UMTS 2100
or
GSM(1900 + 850) + UMTS (1900 + 850)
Telstra are using:
GSM 900 / 1800
UMTS 850 (NextG) / 2100 (shared with Three)
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If that's the case, then what options are shown in the Telstra ROM or the Vodafone ROM for band selection?
I don't remember, maybe someone here has an old WM5 build, and can tell us.
I remember having 4 options on WM5 and now only have 2 with WM6.
Currently on WM6 I only have:
GSM (900+1800) + UMTS 2100
GSM (1900+850) + UMTS (1900+850)
On the old WM5 I have both above plus 2 more, 1 i think only had GSM and the other I think was GSM + UMTS (2100, 1900, 850)..
Sorry could not properly remember..
amberzombie said:
yeah just go to Menu on the bottom right then Preferences - Phone Settings
tap on the Services tab and go to Band Selection
Under Select Network Type change it to UMTS
then click ok you're done
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Thanks mate, it works a treat! I also set this up on my Dopod c730 (i had to choose WCDMA) and it works great!
Thanks again!
aussienick said:
Well this sucks..My Treo with WM5 was working great with the #G speed from telstra, then when updating to AT&T rom it went to edge and now with the Voda rom from Palm UK it only allows me Edge too...
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Make sure you have a 3G or nextg sim, I just called into a telstra seller, and they gave me a new sim (no charge) for nextg.
Telstra have now replaced it, and it work fast. 3G normal and U for internet. 550
I thought it work OK with WM5, but maybe I was wrong??
Now internet/email is real fast, on WM6
I have an Treo 750-1.16-RWE, upgraded with 3 rom vanilla.
Treo 750 WM6 For Aussie World
Hey any of you fellow Aussie Landers used a WM6 upgrade then used PoP3 via telstra data plan on telstra 3g sim
Not keep to screw up my wife's new 750.
Spoke to Palm and they were not as sure at this 3-4 weeks window?
Spoke to head of Mobile Telstra and he confirmed problems may delay til <gulp> next year.
Either way loss of Telstra branding crap on my phone isn't an issue if it still allows her pop3..
FYI PoP3 is not Big Poo or Telstra .
Thanks in advance folks
come on telstra!!!
Telstra ROM anyone?
Does anyone have a Telstra ROM for the Treo 750, WM5 or maybe WM6 ?
What would be the best ROM to use for Telstra connectivity?
MultifyG said:
Does anyone have a Telstra ROM for the Treo 750, WM5 or maybe WM6 ?
What would be the best ROM to use for Telstra connectivity?
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Available form the palm.com.au website.
Hi.
I have a HTC Diamond with the last ROMs (Panosha and SwiftBL 6.0 full) an 0.5 radio. I bought a 3G Chip to Entel, Movistar and Claro, but my experience with all of them was unhappy.
Entel and Claro only show EDGE in connections. Movistar shows the tuple EDGE, 3G.
All of them show an E in top bar. Never show 3G o H. I tried all options in Telephone --> band. The results are the same.
My question is :
The HTC Diamond recognize the 3g band in Chile? How I can configure it?
Thanks in advance.
Same but Panosha 1.7 and .08 radio.
Entel. No 3G only EDGE. Edge is enough for email, googlemaps, rss and casual surfing. But I wouldent mind having 3G (obviously).
So you say Movistar 3G works on Diamond?
Thanks bye.
COLOMBIA!!!!
HEY i am from colombia and i am planning to buy the same gadget (HTC DIAMOND), but i think i won´t be able to download data trough 3g because here MOVISTAR use 850 band, and the htc diamond don´t, so i want to know the same, if there is some ROM or RADIO or UPDATE or something that would let me transfer data in 3G (850) band.
Hi Sergio.
I don't know if Movistar works in 3G. In my Diamond the connection icon in the top bar shows EDGE,3G when i tap over it. but the icon is an E ¿?
We have and Iphone 3G and Nokias 3G and the same chip shows 3G ¿? Not all the time, only short times.
Is the diamond a real 3G device in Chile??????
Sergio PC said:
Same but Panosha 1.7 and .08 radio.
Entel. No 3G only EDGE. Edge is enough for email, googlemaps, rss and casual surfing. But I wouldent mind having 3G (obviously).
So you say Movistar 3G works on Diamond?
Thanks bye.
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Please continue posting on this LINK It kindo has been discussed.
Search before new posts or else Moderator will kick your assss!
Respected Admin:
Can we merge with existing one?
Thanks
All the last cookied ROMs includes the 850 Band. I don't know the colombian reality.
Mrok said:
HEY i am from colombia and i am planning to buy the same gadget (HTC DIAMOND), but i think i won´t be able to download data trough 3g because here MOVISTAR use 850 band, and the htc diamond don´t, so i want to know the same, if there is some ROM or RADIO or UPDATE or something that would let me transfer data in 3G (850) band.
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850mhz GSM bands yes.. but not 3G 850mhz bands..
I posted the same question to Diamond forum by mistake.
I want to know what 3G frequency/band (850 or 1900MHz) in being used.
Is there any software?
Field Test maybe?
ChumleyEX said:
Field Test maybe?
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I have it but what parameter should I check?
"Band" on GSM page shows "255: <unknown>".
What does it mean? How do I check for 3G, not GSM?
I have no clue
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I have no clue
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Anybody can help me?
K-Mobile said:
Anybody can help me?
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your phone needs to W-CDMA or UMTS capabale to support 3G. if you are using WM 6.1 it should also give you the option to automatically select Network type and GSM/UMTS band depending on the network you are in.
to check your options goto start-settings-Band tab- and look under network type and Band if you see WCDMA and UMTS settings there then your phone will use those when in a 3G network.
UMTS bands are typically 2100 or 1900+850
Again all of the above info is freely available on the internet..just google for 3G and you'll be well informed on the subject
Thanks, Prabh.
But I know the Band information tab in Phone setting and I selected;
Network type = Auto
GSM/UMTS band = GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
What I want to know is...Which frequency (1900 or 850) I am currently on.
K-Mobile said:
Thanks, Prabh.
But I know the Band information tab in Phone setting and I selected;
Network type = Auto
GSM/UMTS band = GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
What I want to know is...Which frequency (1900 or 850) I am currently on.
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Check with your Service Providor they should be able to provide that info for you...just curious but is there any reason in particular that you need to know this info ?
prabh said:
Check with your Service Providor they should be able to provide that info for you...just curious but is there any reason in particular that you need to know this info ?
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I am going to switch over to Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
US Diamond/Pro supports UMTS 850/1900MHz but I need UMTS2100 as well
because I often travel to Japan for biz trip.
I know UMTS1900 is widely operated in US but if my area (I live in NY) is in UMTS850
coverage, I will go for Aussie version which supports UMTS 850/2100MHz.
I bought my HTC Diamond on UK. I updated the ROM to the RUU_Diamond_HTC_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1 this was supposed to make my phone QuadBand. It does work in USA (Boston) where I live. But I have never seen my phone doing 3G and speed test top was around the 1xx kbps.
Any Ideas?
PS. I am on the ATT network
Are you sure you have 3G coverage in Boston? Do you have a USIM-card (which I was told to be required for UMTS stuff)?
3G speed
I did look at the ATT coverage map and it said that I do have coverage.
How do I know what type of SIM I have? The SIM does have the 3G logo on it.
Are you sure your phone has the bands?
Check the Band setting, Settings->Phone->Band,
in the dropdown box for "Select your GSM/UMTS band", my US 3G ATT phone shows the following options:
Auto
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
(oddly enough, the settings have to be on Auto for the phone to work..)
When I bought my diamond, I was curious about my sim too, so I took it into the ATT store and asked if it was the "latest 3G sim" and he said yes. Mine is half white (top) & half Blue (bottom), with a orange 3G fireball in the topright corner.
If yours matches all that, then take it to the ATT store and see if you get 3G in the store
Also..if you have doubts, I've had multiple Sales reps in the store tell me I can get a new Sim for free at any time, just need to ask.
3G
I do have that SIM half blue half white with the 3G fireball logo.
On my select network I have
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
on the GSM/UMTS band I have
Auto
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
UMTS(800+2100)
UMTS(850+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(1700)
rpassmore
What ROM do you have?
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2
Does this ROM supports USA 3G????
Sorry for my English
You have the European version and have only HSDPA 2100 / 900 (3G) and probably ATT works in HSDPA 850 / 1900, if this is the problem, sorry 3G is impossible for you, because is a hard problem, not a soft problem, search in this web there are many post about this. The European is quad band in GSM but not in HSDPA (3G)
CArlos
How about if I use another ROM
If I use another ROM ? would I be able to do 3G?
No I think it's impossible since it's different hardware I believe.
I think the one you have from UK, it only contained HSPA 2100 and US /Canada is using HSPA 850/1900, that's why you don't have the 3G signal.
Quad band only for voice and EDGE.
cmilian said:
rpassmore
What ROM do you have?
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I'm using the stock rom/radio for the Unlocked US 3G.
1.93.422.4 WWE
1.00.25.08
But I missed the fact that you're using a European Diamond. sorry.
is there any conection betwen 3G and front camera....
i think i have an Eropean model from UK Vodafon which has the front camera... but i am not sure about 3G !
????
s21ht 日版钻石在中国使用不了2100的WCDMA网络。英语不好会中文帮翻一下!
s21ht 日版钻石在中国使用不了2100的WCDMA网络。英语不好会中文帮翻一下!
此机好像在日本使用1700M 频率,在中国无法使用中国联通的WCDMA,刷 了几个ROM跟RADIO都没办,不知是此机只支持1700M吗。无法支持2100M的中国联通WCDMA吗
会中文的帮我翻译一下。。哈哈。谢谢
shishi007 said:
s21ht 日版钻石在中国使用不了2100的WCDMA网络。英语不好会中文帮翻一下!
此机好像在日本使用1700M 频率,在中国无法使用中国联通的WCDMA,刷 了几个ROM跟RADIO都没办,不知是此机只支持1700M吗。无法支持2100M的中国联通WCDMA吗
会中文的帮我翻译一下。。哈哈。谢谢
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ENGLISH dude! If you look around the forums, everyone uses english. If you don't know english, try a translator, or use a japanese site. We are all more then happy to help, but we can't help if we can't read what you wrote.
shishi007 said:
s21ht 日版钻石在中国使用不了2100的WCDMA网络。英语不好会中文帮翻一下!
此机好像在日本使用1700M 频率,在中国无法使用中国联通的WCDMA,刷 了几个ROM跟RADIO都没办,不知是此机只支持1700M吗。无法支持2100M的中国联通WCDMA吗
会中文的帮我翻译一下。。哈哈。谢谢
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TD Japanese Version couldn't use the WCDMA(2100) Network in China.
This TD seemed to use WCDMA 1700 in Japan, but couldn't be used in China. I've tried flashing a few Roms, also some Radios. Still it didn't.
Is this TD only support 1700MHz in Japan, which means it couldn't be used in WCDMA Network in China, which is 2100MHz?
Sorry for my poor translation.
Reuental said:
TD Japanese Version couldn't use the WCDMA(2100) Network in China.
This TD seemed to use WCDMA 1700 in Japan, but couldn't be used in China. I've tried flashing a few Roms, also some Radios. Still it didn't.
Is this TD only support 1700MHz in Japan, which means it couldn't be used in WCDMA Network in China, which is 2100MHz?
Sorry for my poor translation.
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The translation is better then the kanji. {I can't remember Katakana or Hirogana, been too long since I have read, wrote, or even spoke} If you can translate this back for Shishi, that would be wonderful. Thanx for the help as a translater.
Check the model # {label under battery}, & enter the model into the search engine @ PDADB.net. This will list all the frequencies your specific model is capable of. Model # will be DIAM*** {replace the *s with the #s on your Diam.}
You can flash ROMs until the chip burns out, but this will not help, because all the frequency data is in the Radio. If the site says that your model is capable of 2100 {which I believe it should be}, then just find a radio that runs at 2100MHz, & flash it.
If this is a CDMA model then I am not too sure what the frequencies are. GSM Touch Diamonds are quad-band phones & definately utilize the 2100MHz WCDMA. Soe GSM Diams only show the tri-band frequencies, but if you just flash a quand-band Radio to it, & it'll be fully functional as a quad. It has the Hardware, you just may need to change the software.
Also, if you go to the phone settings, there is a tab for "Band". Look there & see if the 2100MHz is listed. If it is, check that it's enabled. If it's not then just flash a quad radio.
Good luck
Humblehippie said:
The translation is better then the kanji. {I can't remember Katakana or Hirogana, been too long since I have read, wrote, or even spoke} If you can translate this back for Shishi, that would be wonderful. Thanx for the help as a translater.
Check the model # {label under battery}, & enter the model into the search engine @ PDADB.net. This will list all the frequencies your specific model is capable of. Model # will be DIAM*** {replace the *s with the #s on your Diam.}
You can flash ROMs until the chip burns out, but this will not help, because all the frequency data is in the Radio. If the site says that your model is capable of 2100 {which I believe it should be}, then just find a radio that runs at 2100MHz, & flash it.
If this is a CDMA model then I am not too sure what the frequencies are. GSM Touch Diamonds are quad-band phones & definately utilize the 2100MHz WCDMA. Soe GSM Diams only show the tri-band frequencies, but if you just flash a quand-band Radio to it, & it'll be fully functional as a quad. It has the Hardware, you just may need to change the software.
Also, if you go to the phone settings, there is a tab for "Band". Look there & see if the 2100MHz is listed. If it is, check that it's enabled. If it's not then just flash a quad radio.
Good luck
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Thank you for your help!
检查你的TD的型号(取下电池你就能看到),将你的手机型号输入PDADB.net的搜索引擎,它将会列出你的型号所适合的频率。型号是DIAM***。
你可以刷ROM,但是这没有作用,因为所有和你频率相关信息都在Radio里面。如果你的型号适合2100Mhz,那就选择一个2100频率的Radio,再刷Radio。
如果这个TD是CDMA型号的,那么我也不清楚他能适合频段是多少Mhz。GSM的TD是4频手机,所以口肯定能使用WCDMA的2100Mhz。GSM只显示3频,但如果你刷了四频的Radio,它就是个全功能的4频手机了。你只需选用合适的软件来激活它的硬件。
此外,如果你进入手机的设置项,其中有一个频段(BAND)选项,看看是否其中有2100Mhz 的频段,如果有,只需启用即可,如果没有,则需要刷一个4频段的Radio
Thank you for playing translater
Thank you everyone
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no umts2100
Can not be used 2100MHZ chinaunicom Network
谢谢上面的人,特别是帮我翻译的兄弟!!