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unlocking CID on bootloader?

hi all
my device stucked on 1.01 IPL/SPL (how? long story)
and i can't flash any rom in (tried many roms and many times)
i wonder (while i did not unlock CID) can i unlock CID on bootloader? because all i can get is bootloader or
second splash..........
my device is G3
thanx in advanced

bigfatjack said:
hi all
my device stucked on 1.01 IPL/SPL (how? long story)
and i can't flash any rom in (tried many roms and many times)
i wonder (while i did not unlock CID) can i unlock CID on bootloader? because all i can get is bootloader or
second splash..........
my device is G3
thanx in advanced
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You can't even flash a full rom from your carrier, or the one that was on the phone originally?
was the 1.01 ROM the one that came with the phone when you received it or one that you flashed? If it was one that you flashed what were your IPL/SPL before you flashed it?
I don't know of any way to unlock through the bootloader as the process I am familiar with requires copying a file to the PDA through Activesync and then executing/installing it.

no, i cant flash ship rom in pda....
please help

How can I tell if my CID has been unlocked?

I used lokiwiz02b to unlock? both the SID and CID. The device restarted during both installations like it should have.
I read about how to check if the SID is unlocked by using a SIM card from another network but what about the CID?
Thank for any help.

technicallysound said:
I used lokiwiz02b to unlock? both the SID and CID. The device restarted during both installations like it should have.
I read about how to check if the SID is unlocked by using a SIM card from another network but what about the CID?
Thank for any help.
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assuming you already flashed up to a 2.xx carrier rom, you can attempt to flash a different carrier's rom or any 2.xx custom rom here to see if it changes. If it errors out or completes but nothing changes then you are not CID unlocked.

Thank you. Yeah, I followed "How to fllsh a Wizard..." tutorial up to G4.6 assuming it was unlocked. I tried Xplorer 1.1 (originally getting error 300) but then updated the romupdateutility.exe. After the install finished i just had the 3 Color bootloader screen.

technicallysound said:
Thank you. Yeah, I followed "How to fllsh a Wizard..." tutorial up to G4.6 assuming it was unlocked. I tried Xplorer 1.1 (originally getting error 300) but then updated the romupdateutility.exe. After the install finished i just had the 3 Color bootloader screen.
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woah woah woah... You have a G4... G4's aren't CID Unlocked unless you have paid to have this done from imei-check.co.uk . You also have to be careful (if you don't know this already) what roms you flash. Don't just go and flash another carrier's rom on a G4 or you could (will?) wind up with a brick.
So on a G4, you will either have to pay to get CID Unlocked or you use ShellTool to do upgrades (you have to make sure you remove the IPL/SPL in roms before upgrading).

mfrazzz said:
woah woah woah... You have a G4... G4's aren't CID Unlocked unless you have paid to have this done from imei-check.co.uk . You also have to be careful (if you don't know this already) what roms you flash. Don't just go and flash another carrier's rom on a G4 or you could (will?) wind up with a brick.
So on a G4, you will either have to pay to get CID Unlocked or you use ShellTool to do upgrades (you have to make sure you remove the IPL/SPL in roms before upgrading).
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yeah, you didn't have that signature in your post when I replied originally. You have a G4. be very careful which roms you flash. Flashing IPL/SPL into a G4 will brick it. Lokiwiz won't CID unlock a G4. As MFrazzz has said the only known way to CID unlock a G4 is to pay a website for it (imei-unlockers or something like that.)

I forgot to put this in my post earlier... Please use this to learn to flash:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
Since we now know you have a G4, just start at G4.1 and have fun (but be careful).

Please help a noob - never upgraded a ROM before

Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked

Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.

Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
Miker2006 said:
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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Downgrade SPL 3.08 to ver2 or ver1

Hi!
Does anybody have a good solution how to downgrade SPL 3.08 to version 2 or 1

G4 or G3? CID locked or unlocked?
Best is to use original ROM from provider to downgrade. In any case be sure to go from 3.08 to 2.xx and only then to 1.xx (although i see no point for going so low, except for G3 CID unlock)

mestrini said:
G4 or G3? CID locked or unlocked?
Best is to use original ROM from provider to downgrade. In any case be sure to go from 3.08 to 2.xx and only then to 1.xx (although i see no point for going so low, except for G3 CID unlock)
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In this case it is G3 phone.
The problem is that I cant install WM6 firmware and I suspect that the phone is not unlocked properly.
I dont have any ROM from original provider.

Use WST to check the CID status. But i suspect that it is already CID unlocked or you wouldn't be able to write a 3.08 SPL to it (unless you used an original provider's ROM to upgrade)

mestrini said:
Use WST to check the CID status. But i suspect that it is already CID unlocked or you wouldn't be able to write a 3.08 SPL to it (unless you used an original provider's ROM to upgrade)
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I used WST and it said that Phone is CID locked
But i could unlock it anyway with WST!

coop75 said:
I used WST and it said that Phone is CID locked
But i could unlock it anyway with WST!
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Great!!
Thumbs up m8!

Installed wm6.. but phone is still wm5

I recently followed all steps to upgrade my phone wizard a9100 to wm6. It installed w/out problem. But when it boots it is still wm5. I downloaded various wm6 packages and it ends up the same way. I don't know what the problem is. The phone is a generic Qtek phone, not t-mobile or any other. Thankss!

Be sure that the phone is CID unlocked. If it's not and you keep on flashing you might kill the phone or criple it by not booting again into OS.
cheers

Thanks
mestrini said:
Be sure that the phone is CID unlocked. If it's not and you keep on flashing you might kill the phone or criple it by not booting again into OS.
cheers
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Ok thankss. I'll check if it CID unlocked. Thanks for the response. So if I CID unlock it , it supposed to work correctly right?

yes

Thankkk u!
That seemed to be the problem.. Thank u lotz!!

the same problem with me too

micro-me said:
the same problem with me too
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If its CID locked it won't upgrade,first CID unlock the phone.If its a G3 follow this guide :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
But if its G4 read the SoftSPL or HardSPL method in the G4 forum posted as stickies.