Ive been looking for a while and no one is actually sure about voiding the warranty. Has anyone done it and sent it in? Can some one explain about cid unlocking a little. Reading the other posts just gets me (and im sure others) confused
jawnsixteen said:
Ive been looking for a while and no one is actually sure about voiding the warranty. Has anyone done it and sent it in?
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Let me make it simple... CID Unlock voids your warranty. period. The question comes in that when you try to do warranty work is whether they will notice or not. I've heard some say they don't, and others have said they do. So in a nutshell, just understand that you ARE VOIDING your warranty. You may or may not be "caught" though if you try to get warranty work, but you made the decision to do something that voids it, so you have to live with that choice.
Can some one explain about cid unlocking a little. Reading the other posts just gets me (and im sure others) confused
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If you can't read and understand this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
then you have no business doing this procedure. Dr. P has written an excellent post that takes you through the process step by step. Very simple and even tells you what to look for as you do it. There is no point trying to explain it further as it would be the exact same post as Dr. P's since it lays it out step by step in full detail.
ok, thank you.
now just one last question, i have upgraded to the newest tmobile rom, and i read somewhere that by doing that it unlocks somthing, did i read wrong?
jawnsixteen said:
now just one last question, i have upgraded to the newest tmobile rom, and i read somewhere that by doing that it unlocks somthing, did i read wrong?
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I'm not aware of installing the newest (2.26?) TMobile ROM unlocking anything. You need to do the CID Unlock procedure and then finish by installing a rom like the TMobile 2.26 official rom. But jsut installing this rom doesn't unlock anything, just gets you to a current stable base to work off of for doing custom roms (very important step that too many people seem to be skipping).
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Sorry about the noob question but I have looking for this solution and seem to find bits and pieces of the answer but not the whole thing. I know if you unlock you T-Mobile USA MDA phone and update the ROM you void your warranty. I was looking to see if there was software out there that allows you to unlock and then back up Your original ROM. This way you can try out other roms but still have the ability to downgrade back to your original ROM and locked state, just in case something is physically damaged on the phone you can still have it fixed on your warranty.
I have seen the lokiwiz software posts but have not seen anything that explains the steps to take to unlock and back up. Then upgrade and restore.
Like I said this is a total noobie and defiantly not a developers question but any help would be appreciated.
i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?
luis_valerio said:
i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?
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You must pay and you can have it for free... (check the Wiki)
luis_valerio said:
i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?
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If you have a G3 you can do it yourself for free, read the stickies to find out how.
If you have a G4 you will have to pay for Super CID. There is currently no known way to unlock a G4 without paying for it. You can however use the shelltool to bypass the CID check when flashing. This has mixed results from those that use it so I would suggest talking to those that have actually used this to see their results, or suggestions.
If you don't know which you have read some more before you attempt to flash anything. Doing G3 steps on a G4 device could very well brick your device beyond recovery.
i have done that the thing is that i believe i did unlock it but i can flash to like a hardspl like others do i only can for like wizard Wm6 what can i do
luis_valerio said:
i have done that the thing is that i believe i did unlock it but i can flash to like a hardspl like others do i only can for like wizard Wm6 what can i do
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You guys must help us help you and that includes writing in real ENGLISH (punctuated) and be clear about your issues and desires...
hey im new here...
i was wondering i have a cingular 8125 and was wondering if possible to unbrand the cingular logo and stuff on the phone? also how would i go to upgrade the 8125 to windows mobile 6? thanks!
READ... Check the WIKI .. all the information you need is there.. READ, read and READ some more... if you don't read and learn all you can about upgrading your phone you WILL destroy the device.
5kunk2 said:
hey im new here...
i was wondering i have a cingular 8125 and was wondering if possible to unbrand the cingular logo and stuff on the phone? also how would i go to upgrade the 8125 to windows mobile 6? thanks!
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Everything you need to know -- and all the files to do it -- are in this thread. Read every word and go through each step -- without skipping ANYTHING -- and you will be unlocked and ready to flash a WM6 ROM. There are several of those you can choose from here.
forget to mention my phone is already unlocked...im in canada right now so i got it unlocked to use their network services.
5kunk2 said:
forget to mention my phone is already unlocked...im in canada right now so i got it unlocked to use their network services.
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your phone may be SIM unlocked but it also needs to be CID unlocked (to put non-cingular roms on phone). heed the advice of the other members on here cause if not, you will brick your phone.
so the first thing i do is cid-unlock before i do anything else?
yup, make sure it is CID unlocked.. there are tools to do it in these forums, or you can pay 40 dollars to www.imei-check.com and do it there.
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so the first thing i do is cid-unlock before i do anything else?
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Before you do anything I suggest figuring out if you have a G3 or a G4 as which type will determine how you can unlock your phone. If you attempt the G3 instructions on a G4 you will most likely brick your phone.
Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
Drvylyne said:
Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
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1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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prunzzz said:
1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
Drvylyne said:
I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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90% of people have no need for s off...since HTC let us install kernels via recovery ...now barely any people need s off... I think in Europe it doesn't matter if you unlocked and etc..you're still covered... Here in the states ...they can be a holes
I used S-Off to convert my AT&T One software to Developer edition software, then returned it to S-On. Now running totally stock developer version software, eliminates AT&T bloat and hoping I get updates a bit sooner than I would have with AT&T version.
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Drvylyne said:
I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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So you got the answer of your 1st question
Now the answer for 2nd one is very simple, though what you said about warrenty is right,
But still many times its always better to have a full stock for warrenty or replacement (by "better" i mean you dont have to prove anything to the service center)
Hit THANKS if i helped you
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squabbi said:
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
Basically don't S off if you don't know what it does. It bypasses security checks and allows access to all phone partitions that if applyed wrong could brick your phone. Just flashing roms doesn't require s off
Example of mistake
Fastboot flash hboot recovery.img
This would brick your phone if you had s off, s on would deny write access!!
IF YOUR recive HELP FROM SOMEONE BE GRATEFUL AND HIT THANKS!!!
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a box of kittens said:
Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
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Oh sorry. I was basing that off the One X. I S-OFF'd my One because I thought that without S-OFF I couldn't flash a kernel.
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All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
dier325 said:
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
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cadesdefy said:
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
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Read through the threads. There are plenty of explanations and people in your position. If you do not have the patience to do so, then the current rooting methods probably won't be for you.
If your device is not a developer edition and you unlocked, I believe that means you already have voided the warranty.
Rooting with an unlocked bootloader doesn't require pie, etc, it's rather basic at this point, installing a custom recovery and installing supersu
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cadesdefy said:
All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
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I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
samwathegreat said:
I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
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TowelPieRoot can be completely removed without a trace. We are pretty sure it doesn't void warranty.
cadesdefy said:
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
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I had a feeling you might have meant SIM-Unlock. This is completely unrelated to rooting, unfortunately.
If TowelPieRoot didn't work for you (DOWNLOAD A ROOT-CHECKER to be sure - find one in the play store. It will confirm if you have been rooted or not), sorry, but your ONLY option is to unlock the bootloader. There are mixed reports on whether or not TPR works on 4.4.3. Some variants apparently CAN use it, while others CAN'T.
Keep in mind that unlocking the BL is FAR superior to any of these exploits. You gain permanent root and wp-off.
The important question is which model you have. If you have the XT1053, you CAN unlock through Moto's official website. If not, you might not have any options at all unless you can get unlocked through the "china middleman".
If you have XT1053, your best bet is to go ahead and unlock the BL. Sure it will void your warranty, but I I really don't understand the fear of that. If you (for instance) break your device, warranty possibly won't cover it anyways if they determine it is "abuse" (e.g. you drop it). And aside from that there are very few things that can go wrong. All I can think of is the possibility of the screen going bad, or the speaker quitting working or something like that.....but there are extremely few reports of anyone actually needing to use warranty service.
Additionally, there are many reports of people who unlocked, and Moto honored the warranty anyways. I'm not going to suggest that they WOULD, but others have advised they did it for them.
Do what you want, but realize that if you want root, the ONLY option is to unlock.
Good Luck
If you don't want to void the warranty and have root access, buy a developer edition then sell your phone (or vice versa). That's the only way you'll be able to satisfy those 2 conditions.
I have to use pie root to get exposed working but I can confirm it works on 4.4.2 not sure about 4.4.3. I use the moto x tool kit to get pie root you can find it in the forums it's pretty easy
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