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HTC Advantage 4 - 1 Cable, Not Working??

Hiya,
I just got my cable from expansys, the vga and s-video out is working fine, but i haven't got any thing usb to work yet. I've tried flash Drives and a card reader, just no response, no light or any thing... is there a trick to it or is it not very compatable or is there a chance mine is faulty?
cheers

My guess is that although it is a Host, it does not supply any power, I say this because the battery is only 3.7 V DC and USB devices are 5 V DC, this means that there is not enough Volts in the advantage to power a USB device to start with, never mind powering a USB device and an Advantage at the same time.
You will probably need to plug it into a USB hub that supplies it's own power, like this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-2-0-4-Por...106823769QQcategoryZ96866QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I had the same problem but it was because the TV out was still on. Once I turned this off in the settings menu it worked fine.

I too had no trouble hooking up a flash drive. No other peripherals were attached to the cable. Alas, no go on a hard-drive MP3 player, but trying a powered hub is a good idea.

Have you tried connecting your USB device, and then soft resetting?
Works for me.

I have no detection of USB devices by my Advantage.
I tried with and withour Soft Reset before and after the cable connection, before and after the cable and flash drive connection, with or without the VGA or Video Output disabled or enabled, but my Advantage does not recognize any USB device (I tried with 2 flash drive, a keyborad and an optical mouse. Nothing to do. These devices do not work with my Advantage).
It seems that the relative drivers are missing.
Someone has a sure fix or solution to this problem ??
Thanks

Battery Powered USB Hub...
This device should work well with the x7500/Advantage. It doesn't require you to carry around a bulky power plug. It runs off of 4 AAA batteries and provides power for up to 4 USB devices. Since the x7500/Advantage has limited power and can't power external drives itself, this is a nice addition and cheap. Hope someone finds it useful.
http://www.radioshack.com/sm-cyberpower-4-port-battery-powered-hub--pi-2259675.html

I have the Dopod U1000. I have connected a thumb drive and a USB mouse without issue. The mouse is useless as far as I can tell as there is no pointer though the buttons work.

I have no problems with a T-Mobile Ameo and a 1Gb Corsair USB Flashdrive - don't even need a soft reset. It's listed as 'Hard Disk' on the Ameo.
Question though: can I just unplug it when done? I'm used to 'safely removing hardware' on the PC, and it just feels wrong unplugging it from the Ameo, but I can't see any similar 'safely remove' method.

Hi.
It depends of the usb device. My 1GB pen drive is recognized but my 4GB isnt recognized (my 160 GB isnt). So I suppose If the usb device isnt powered then only "very low powered" devices are recognized...
If I connect my 160 GB and I plug it to AC then It is recognized correctly...

Does mini usb-usb host cable exist? Where to buy it?
THX!
Look this one http://www.pixmania-pro.it/it/it/255677/art/cowon-iaudio/cavo-usb-host.html#
seems to be what I'm looking for...don't you?

spmc said:
I have the Dopod U1000. I have connected a thumb drive and a USB mouse without issue. The mouse is useless as far as I can tell as there is no pointer though the buttons work.
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Search the forum for the Modaco Mouse driver. It has a mouse pointer and works flawlessly with a USB Mouse!

4 in 1 Cable
I found te following description of this cable:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145166
The HTC SC V100 4-in-1 cable can split the HTC proprietary 16-pin interface on the Advantage into these 4 functions:
- USB 1.1 host (supports USB low power): Plug USB accessories into the USB standard A female port. The host can support these accessories:
1. Thumbdrive
2. Card reader
3. USB keyboard
4. USB mouse
- VGA output: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a projector or PC monitor
- TV output – S-video: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a TV through the S-video interface
- TV output – Composite Video: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a TV through the composite video interface (AV cable)
Technical Details:
Resolution: 640 x 480 pixels, 262K colours
Cable length: 100mm ± 10mm
Connectors support:
- HTC specific 16-pin male for connecting to the Advantage
- USB standard A (Female)
- VGA D-sub (Female)
- S-video (4-pin) out (Female)
- Composite video out (Female)

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Hi,
I have the HTC 4 in 1 cable for the T-Mobile Ameo (HTC Advantage 7500) and the ability to access a USB thumbdrive or stick appears to depend on the device.
The following devices worked without a hitch:
- Kingston DataTraveler 1GB
- Q motion 1 GB
- SanDisk MobileMate SD+ (This a SD card reader in a USB stick format, very handy to copy data from a SD/miniSD/microSD card to your 7500 without going through Activesync)
Another noname USB stick that I had did not work.
So the trick is to find a low powered USB stick.
Cheers,
Tim

Please can someone give me some exaples about how could I use
Video/S-Video/ option in 4 in 1 cable, considering that I can image how to properly use VGA out and USB host?
THX so much!

Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!

asci said:
Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!
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Yes, that should work for you. I'm sure it's not more than $5.00 USD. ;-)

asci said:
Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!
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Are you hoping to connect USB accessories to your Athena with this?
If so, it will not work.
Only the 4 in 1 Host cable connected to the ext USB socket will do that.
This adaptor will only connect to the Sync & Charge socket, and will not provide USB Host capabilities.

Pantaloonie said:
Are you hoping to connect USB accessories to your Athena with this?
If so, it will not work.
Only the 4 in 1 Host cable connected to the ext USB socket will do that.
This adaptor will only connect to the Sync & Charge socket, and will not provide USB Host capabilities.
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So it will not provide me host function...?
Than the HTC cable should have something like a "chip" in it to provide host, is it right?

Yes, the USB Host chip must be either in the addon cable, or linked to the extUSB socket in the Athena. But definitely not the sync & charge socket.

OTA ICS: USB Disk mount?

when looking at the storage control panel, it lists internal, sdcard-ext, and then "/mnt/usbdisk_1.1.1" and says "insert an [sic] USB disk for mounting".
so if i were to come up with some sort of adapter, could i plug a thumb drive into my phone's micro usb port to move files between the phone and the thumb drive? i can think of plenty of times that would be useful!

Tried. OTG cable works with Samsung galaxy S2 devices (Skyrocket using either SKY ICS or rooted OTA) but haven't got it to work on our Droids...(Bionic ICS leak, RAZR ICS OTA, Droid 4 ICS OTA...all rooted).
But if someone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to "eat my words" ...
Be strong and very Koragus, my ninja...

OTG works, BUT only in a very cumbersome way, since external power is needed.
A powered USB hub does not suffice, since it only powers the slave devices, not the host (= phone). The phone must be in charge-mode, which requires a Y-cable.
You need:
- an OTG adapter
- a USB hub with mini-USB in
- a USB Y cable with 2 normal USB plugs and one mini-USB out
Then
1. Connect the OTG adapter to your phone's micro-USB input
2. Connect the 'middle' USB plug of the USB Y cable into the OTG adapter
3. Connect the 'outer' USB plug of the USB Y cable to a charger (can be a portable battery as well)
4. Connect the mini-USB plug of the USB Y cable to the hub output
5. Connect any device you want to use to the USB hub
It looks like this (found this picture for Razr):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teppan_hakushaku/6817735705/
Edit: I verified it for Droid 4 last week, but didn't take my own picture yet. Works with ICS .215 leak, no 3rd party apps (like 'StickMount') seem to be needed.
Edit2: According to some other posts in this forums (search for 'OTG') it will only work for FAT32 formatted drives. Didn't check this in detail but my drive was already FAT32. Also I found it did not work for my cheap wireless keyboard's USB dongle, but connecting a wired keyboard worked fine.

...reminded again why I love this community...
...no possible links to a purchase of this "y" cable?
Be strong and very Koragus, my ninja...

Glad I could help!
They come with some portable harddisks, so that's where I got mine. Not sure about the linking policy on XDA, please remove if not allowed. Here's an example:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-2-0-mini-5-pin-to-a-male-power-y-cable-62-cm-65630?item=10

MHL to VGA

Are there MHL to VGA adapters available that are know to work with the 4x?
Or is MHL standardized enough that i can pick any MHL to VGA without any worrying about working?
I know HDMI is usually better but my HMD (tac eye) takes only VGA or SVideo (though SVideo quality really suxx, its only on for NV not for data).
Also I see some MHL to VGA adapters have a secondary USB port, can this be used only as client or could I somehow connect a pointing device to my phone?

If I were you i would take MHL to HDMI cable and then HDMI to VGA. Reason is simple. Sometime you may want to connect your phone to new TV so you will need HDMI as it is standard port.
Secondary USB port is microUSB and it is used to charge phone while conected to TV (at least thats how it works with MHL to HDMI cable).

Stevic Milos said:
If I were you i would take MHL to HDMI cable and then HDMI to VGA. Reason is simple. Sometime you may want to connect your phone to new TV so you will need HDMI as it is standard port.
Secondary USB port is microUSB and it is used to charge phone while conected to TV (at least thats how it works with MHL to HDMI cable).
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Well, for me this would than look like: MHL-HDMI adapter connected to a HDMI-VGA adapter connected to VGA-"Proprietary HMD Port" thats in used space and weight more for the adapters than for the phone and HMD. As i intent to wear this on my body thats rather not cool. Also the HDMI-VGA adapter will want some juice what will be an additional drain on my batteries.
The "VGA-"Proprietary HMD Port" is passive, so if I like the setup I will probably cut the MHL-VGA adapter open and attache the signal lanes directly to a fitting plug for my HMD.
Also I don't own a TV just a 30" WQXGA Dell Monitor with a Duallink DVI port its one of the old models that had only Duallink DVI, no scaling no DVI no VGA and no other ports.
An other issue would be how to control the phone when it in my pocket, how can I attache some pointing device and would this even work with android OS?
Or would I have to wait for an unlocked bootloader and this cool ubuntu on phone projects that provide a full ubuntu desktop?
PS: is the micro usb port on the adapter only used for charging or is there still a USB signal on it?
David

If i got you right, you want to control phone, connected to PC monitor, over HDM goggles?
You can try something like this https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/
It is a software that enables remote control of your phone over WiFi, so if your goggles work on PC it should work here to. It does the same job as the cable connection (MHL to VGA)
As for the MHL to VGA adapter you have 4 connectors:
1) male microUSB (one you connect to your phone)
2) female microUSB (charger or power supply, so it doesn't use phone battery)
3) female VGA (for monitor)
4) 3,5 audio jack for sound

Stevic Milos said:
If i got you right, you want to control phone, connected to PC monitor, over HDM goggles?
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Not exactly I don't want to use a PC at all. I want to connect the HMD (Vuzix-Tac-Eye-LT-Monocular) directly to the phone and use some pointing device or mini keyboard to control the phone.

I have the adapter and a problem,
the phone is only giving out its native screen resolution, my HMD cant handle.
How can I change the resolution so SVGA ?

Hdmi - dp - vga - dvi - usb-c

Hello, here is the following testing I have done to the Motorola Z Play, I have plenty of resources to play with the USB-C and all kinds of Monitors and TV's.
This is the progress: USB-C to...
DP: Not Working
DP 1.2: Not working
DP 1.4: Not working
HDMI: Not Working
HDMI 1.4: Not Working
HDMI 2.0: Not tested yet
HDMI Yuv420 (UHD, HDR) : Not tested yet
HDMI MHL (UHD): Not tested yet
VGA and DVI are not working.
HDCP is working fine on my device. I'm using the latest version of Lineage OS.
Do you want me to test it more to another output?

Hi,
I'm using this adapter : M.Way Aluminium MHL Micro USB to HDMI Cable Digital AV Adapter Plug
It permits to mirror the screen on TV.
just no video with Apps which have "HDCP" video copyrights protection like Netflix

HEY
dont use the stock DATA cable since that is only USB 2.0, buy a USB 3.1 data cable and repeat those tests once again and then post it here. now those results are just ****.

abhilash_s_j said:
HEY
dont use the stock DATA cable since that is only USB 2.0, buy a USB 3.1 data cable and repeat those tests once again and then post it here. now those results are just ****.
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Do you know the diferences between the standard of USB-C and USB, right? What do you mean???
The cables that I did used are USB-C, and the panels which I used are DP, HDMI, VGA, and DVI.
Your comment makes no sense, cause a "USB 2.0 and 3.1" are the standard USB but with different cables. Im using USB-C, which is A LOT BETTER than the "recommendation" you gave.
Really, what do you mean??

Grykonmon said:
Hello, here is the following testing I have done to the Motorola Z Play, I have plenty of resources to play with the USB-C and all kinds of Monitors and TV's.
This is the progress: USB-C to...
DP: Not Working
DP 1.2: Not working
DP 1.4: Not working
HDMI: Not Working
HDMI 1.4: Not Working
HDMI 2.0: Not tested yet
HDMI Yuv420 (UHD, HDR) : Not tested yet
HDMI MHL (UHD): Not tested yet
VGA and DVI are not working.
HDCP is working fine on my device. I'm using the latest version of Lineage OS.
Do you want me to test it more to another output?
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Grykonmon said:
Do you know the diferences between the standard of USB-C and USB, right? What do you mean???
The cables that I did used are USB-C, and the panels which I used are DP, HDMI, VGA, and DVI.
Your comment makes no sense, cause a "USB 2.0 and 3.1" are the standard USB but with different cables. Im using USB-C, which is A LOT BETTER than the "recommendation" you gave.
Really, what do you mean??
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i know what is USB-C is i am talking about the other end of the data cable,
you see there are TWO end to a data cable one end is USB-C and the other end must be USB A type with USB 3.1 wiring style that means its base should be blue color and it has to have 4+5=9 pins in it please google USB 3.1 A type for more info
in india stock data cable is USB-C to USB 2.0 A type connector with only 4pins thats why lot of guys who tried to connect HDMI has been failed because HDMI needs USB 3.1 which has 9 pins.

abhilash_s_j said:
i know what is USB-C is i am talking about the other end of the data cable,
you see there are TWO end to a data cable one end is USB-C and the other end must be USB A type with USB 3.1 wiring style that means its base should be blue color and it has to have 4+5=9 pins in it please google USB 3.1 A type for more info
in india stock data cable is USB-C to USB 2.0 A type connector with only 4pins thats why lot of guys who tried to connect HDMI has been failed because HDMI needs USB 3.1 which has 9 pins.
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I have never said that i'm using USB.
My dongles are USB-C to Video Television or Digital Video. There is no way my panels accepts video over USB. These are my dongles:
USB-C to HDMI 2.0
USB-C to HDMI
USB-C to eDP(Female)
USB-C to DP
Why would I need USB, while I have the actual dongle without needing another dongle for the USB you are menctioning? Can you see the photo I provided please?

The reason none of the adapters work is because the type C Port of the Z play doesn't have the HDMI/video out chipset/hardware. Hopefully this will become standard on type c phones but right now, it's wishful thinking. Maybe if this was a Mac book the type c would do video, Ethernet, charging, etc...
Let's not forget, this is midrange phone. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news on this one.

stevejc said:
Hi,
I'm using this adapter : M.Way Aluminium MHL Micro USB to HDMI Cable Digital AV Adapter Plug
It permits to mirror the screen on TV.
just no video with Apps which have "HDCP" video copyrights protection like Netflix
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Do you use it with the moto Z ? surprising as moto has an usb-c port, not a micro-usb.
Did you manage to have hdmi screen output from a moto z [ /play/play2/force] ?

Yes, I have a Moto Z play.
I use an USB-C to normal USB cable (same cable to connect to my computer) to connect to the M Way MHL adapter (female USB input, the male USB input is for power)) . This cable is certified USB 3.1
I have another USB-C to normal USB cable but with this one it's not working (usb 2.0 only)
It's a kind of hdmi output, the adapter works as an usb screencast, usb debugging must be on on the smartphone
hope it helps

USB OTG

According to this page, the P20 pro officially supports USB OTG. But when I plug this USB key to the phone with the official cable and a simple female - female adapter, nothing happens.
Does it only work with USB type C keys like this one?
If it is the case, I would really like to understand why.

I think you need a USB connector that supports OTG. Your USB 3.0 to USB C adapter that is.
I had a similar issue trying to connect a micro USB infrared camera to my Nexus 6P, had to get a specific OTG converter.

No special usb connector needed, works direct and without problems.
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