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hi, that is the question.
Would you buy the DIAMOND again if you know you can't use the data transfer under the 3G technology??? is it worth the us$500 or eur450????
I dont really care about 3g when wifi is so readily available.
3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
for me 3G is essential as I use my Diamond extensively on Telstra's 850Mhz 3G network, and I can get far better coverage in regional parts of Australia. 3G is also essential for me as I use my Diamond as an external modem connected to my laptop. I could not imagine trying to use the internet at dialup speeds!! (or not at all due to lack of coverage)
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3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
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3G is a masssive bonus, especially when dealing with moving large files or for video calls. web pages are not so important.
As for stealing WIFI i think there is a strong moral question about doing that, especially as there are still people who are charge by the amount of data they use. Would you pick their pockets?
Thankfully most of the wifi spots i see people are wise enough to use WPA encryption. But still some people are relying on nothing or just WEP
in france we are massively under H (or a 3.5g or 3g+) so we don't care about 3g it's only when we goes to foreign country... but funny things there is a lack of wifi spot here
I'd buy it (again - my Touch Pro that is) in a second.
We do have quite spread UMTS and not bad HSPA and even some hot spots, but all these are just things "outside" the device; and the device rulez.
3g great...but
must turn off where overseas
don't want a big bill waiting for when i get home
I don't much care for the 3G, it's a nice bonus but it's not the reason I bought the Diamond.
The Diamond is the perfect phone for me (especially after I found this place and was able to upgrade the software tremendously) and I would certainly buy it again.
My biggest complaint in that the screen is so easily scratched. I hate using screen protectors and never really had a problem with scratches on my previous touch screen (Treo 700wx) like I do now. But minor issues as far as I'm concerned. I definitley don't have a problem with the battery as many others do, as I've become quite accustomed to carrying spare batteries since I use my devices quite a bit.
Good phone, even better tech support (here). How can you go wrong?
3G is a must!!! Still waiting over here in the U.S.
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3g isn't a a must, if you want to brows the internet get a computer, but for some people who work out in the field and needs Internet service then sure 3G is fun, but other wise than browsing the Internet you don't really need it, but for someone who is one of those emo Internet people myspace youtube what not, that its for u.
The answer depends on where you live as well as what you use your phone for.
In UK (and most of Western Europe) we have very good 3G and even 3.5G networks that can give us mobile broadband at very good speeds - not up to best wired speeds but getting close. You can really notice the difference between that and slow old GPRS when downloading emails or surfing the real web (rather than just WAP).
On the other hand in the UK free wifi spots are few and far between - most require some sort of payment or subscription - Holiday Inn hotels for example want £15 per day, and Hilton are £10! And most private companies (and households like mine) that use wifi lock their access so you can't park outside and piggy back.
Because there has been so much investment in these new technologies they are being pushed hard by the phone companies and many contracts for phones now come with "free" bundled data access. My HTC comes with "unlimited" downloads (sunbject as always to a fair use policy that I have never got near).
I understand that in other parts of the world including the US the roll out of this sort of technology is less advanced, and so the arguments for having 3G are less convincing at the moment.
I would not have bought the Diamond without 3G. 3G(Hdspa) is an absolutley must!
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3g is the s**t lol
i gotta say once you use 3G (HSDPA) you will never go back, most if the time i don't even bother connecting to WIFI coz there is honestly hardly any speed difference if you have good reception (and i have unlimited data plan).
Luckily i live the the UK and with orange we have decent coverage and the speed is increasing over the next year of so
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
Well I bought my Diamond (european version) not knowing that 3G wouldn't work in the US. Despite that, It was going in for some repairs at HTC America with Canada post and somehow, the phone got "lost" (yeah right).
So now, I'm getting back my insurance money and I will most probably buy another Diamond not taking into consideration weather 3G works or not.
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
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purchase a Telstra DIAM130 one from Australia and it will have 850Mhz 3G
3g or 2g
I'm in the camp of MUST have 3g, in AU with telstra and all prior htc phones have had 3g BUT I went and grabbed a Diamond 100 a while back BEFORE we all really knew about the different models being hardware (bands) different so long story short I've got 2g only and it sucks big time.
Reception outside of metro very average, data s l o w ..no video callls and
I live in the country area, even chucked my sim card into my wifes old motorola v3xx., Yea pink as well........
I am using the Diamond as I like the phone/features
I'm looking to buy a 3g Diamond or renew/upgrade my plan due next month.
Then the hardly used Diamond100 will hit ebay and thats it.
(Unless someone in AU is looking to swap as Diam100 works on Optus/Voda etc, but not telstra)
So if your provider is going to get compatible phones then wait, otherwise like driving a v8 in first gear.
anyone feel like theyre being throttled by tmo? im in the socal region and i dont even have 500mB used for unlimited data. i think i read somewhere they will hold your speed back if youve used over a gig or two, but 500megs?
btw, i usually get >2mb/s, but recently have been getting .5mb/s..
No throttling in Dallas. I tethered my laptop to download a ~700 Mb file this past weekend (I don't usually do that, but I needed to). Still pulling anywhere from 2-4 Mb/s
Possibly network upgrades happening.
(Give them a call and find out)
Bandwidth can be throttled by the number of users, more users less bandwidth to go around.
I Just talked to a csr at tmo and if you have unlimited data with the nexus you will not be throttled OR capped.
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hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.
yeah, it's not throttling. they would push you below 500 kb/s if that were the case.
in my city, 500 kb/s is the most we get on T-Mo's 3G.. oh well.
I use around 5 gbs a month, no throttling here
Wouldn't they just shut off your 3g and force you to use edge speeds?
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hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.
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Same issue here - Chicago area. Dropped calls, no service, Emergency calls only and lousy 3G coverage. On G1 and N1. Hoping it's an upgrade....
I seriously doubt t-mobile is throttle speeds. On ATT in la I pull down 2.5 mbps though.
btw are you guys on the android plan?
i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...
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i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...
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i would say they are better, they know they have android power users and treat us as such, not like childish data wasters like AT&T has done. They also have been recently updating their network that surpasses AT&T soon enough.
^agreed, their network upgrades makes my n1 worthwhile, also I've been with them for about 6.5 years because they're the cheapest and they've got pretty good customer service
Just trying to figure out if anyone had a previous 4G LTE plan prior to ordering the N5 and if its proved to be worth it or Not. Being New to that whole side of LTE things. How much GB allowance do you receive a month and average use total.
I have a 3G unlimited plan on O2 which are rare lately since 3 network is the only network that doesn't unlimited DAT at me moment.
Now the nexus 5 is 4G ready in the UK is it really worth chasing a 4G plan yet or wait because 3g works quite fine at moment with hotspots everywhere. Cheapest 4g plan is around £26 for 1gb I think. I didn't even mention 500mb cors that's just silly to even consider on 4G.
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In the same boat as yourself at the moment - (o2 simplicity with unlimited data)... Going to switch to giff-gaff (12 quid bundle) and wait it out and see whether 4G prices drop...
At the moment from what I can gather, EE have the monopoly coverage wise so hopefully when the competition kicks in prices will drop.
Certainly don't want to get tied into a long 4G contract at the moment to find high prices & crap coverage ruins the experience...
I'm currently on 3 with an iPhone 5. Going to stick with them if I get a Nexus 5. 2000 minutes, 5000 3-3 minutes, 5000 texts, Totally Unlimited data with unlimited tethering, and 4G at no extra cost in December, all for just £15 a month
As nellisere says, the best one for me is 3. 4g coming next month (very limited) and is cheap and reliable with excellent HSDPA coverage (left voda on my n4 after 8 months of crap service).
I'd look around
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4G isn't in my city yet so I won't be switching until that happens, obviously.
Three is the best for data.
Up to 20mb (10-15mb average) on 3G.
Truly unlimited for £12.90 a month.
And 4G will be free - no charge difference or plan changes.
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I think I'm going to leave Orange due to poor network coverage, and move to Three.
Nellisere - think I'll get that same plan that you're already on. is the unlimited tethering available for new customers do you know? I've looked on their website but can't find confirmation about that. Cheers.
Another vote for three from me, get great 3G (15 - 20 Mbps) and when 4G turns up it won't cost me any extra. Totally unlimited data as well, I recently used nearly a gigabyte while on holiday in Italy at no extra cost due to their "Feel At Home" deal.
Three is awesome
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My dad is on Vodafone and barely gets any decent signal on his S4 and all so I can't expect any better. 02 simplicity has been awesome for me. Only capped once. I'm waiting to see what they do then 3 week brings completion. I was using the n4 before never really bothered much before.
Seems like 3 is the one to watch but is EE coverage that good. Cors its definitely too pricey for me.
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Does anyone know if, when 3 changes to LTE in December, will the change in frequency improve penetration into buildings? I had heard somewhere that this would be the case but not really found any info (not looked properly yet to be honest!) Just got my n5 today (a beast!) And want to take advantage of LTE when it arrives, as well as Google music... can't really do so just now as it uses so much data.
Tried a 3 sim but not much use in my flat as the signal is non existent... on virgin "unlimited" but capped after 3.5GB, would love the option to have truly unlimited, LTE would be a bonus ..
Edit: sorry for changing the subject a wee bit - I use approx 2-3gb per month, but that's with me being careful... don't use the phone that much for Google music, but would deff use it more if I had unlimited!
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I will probably stay on Tesco network for 4G (but only upgrade when they have 4G in my city) for only £2.50 extra. Three is tempting but who knows when they will have 4G in my area - I can't imagine Plymouth is anywhere near their top priority list. Plus, I must keep my phone number and it'd be quite a hassle to switch networks while keeping same number. Then again, unlimited data would be great. I don't use 3G that much at the moment as WiFi is faster but that would change with 4G so I would appreciate unlimited data then! I may switch but I don't expect there will be 4G on any network in Plymouth for at least another year anyways.
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Does anyone know if, when 3 changes to LTE in December, will the change in frequency improve penetration into buildings? I had heard somewhere that this would be the case but not really found any info (not looked properly yet to be honest!) Just got my n5 today (a beast!) And want to take advantage of LTE when it arrives, as well as Google music... can't really do so just now as it uses so much data.
Tried a 3 sim but not much use in my flat as the signal is non existent... on virgin "unlimited" but capped after 3.5GB, would love the option to have truly unlimited, LTE would be a bonus ..
Edit: sorry for changing the subject a wee bit - I use approx 2-3gb per month, but that's with me being careful... don't use the phone that much for Google music, but would deff use it more if I had unlimited!
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I'm also with Three but I have to disagree with their 3G and HSDPA being lightning fast. There have been numerous occasions where I have had no signal in Central London! Also, at home (I live in London also), I get a speed of 5-6Mbps on my iPhone 5.
That said, I'm hoping their signals and speed improve. I certainly can't complain for unlimited data and tethering for £15.
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I think I'm going to leave Orange due to poor network coverage, and move to Three.
Nellisere - think I'll get that same plan that you're already on. is the unlimited tethering available for new customers do you know? I've looked on their website but can't find confirmation about that. Cheers.
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Tethering free only on The One plan. Ie £15pm 12month contract, or £18pm on 30 day rolling. I'm on the former and have no complaints with 3.
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I was once a happy T-Mobile customer for 24 months until September when I moved to giffgaff on the £10 goodybag. Wherever I was, I always seemed to have signal with T-Mobile, usually 3G or HSDPA most of the time.
Along with the great signal, my T-Mobile deal was simply brilliant: 600 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimited Internet and a free phone (a Wildfire S) for just £11 a month! It seemed however that T-Mobile did not care much for my custom as in the 25th month (after the 24 month offer) the price doubled to £22! I then quickly grabbed a PAC Code (surprisingly very easy) and switched to giffgaff.
However, since my Nexus 5 purchase, I'm looking for a 4G deal and Three is calling to me with it's '4G at no extra cost' promise. Can anyone on Three vouch for it's signal strength, stability and speed?
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I was once a happy T-Mobile customer for 24 months until September when I moved to giffgaff on the £10 goodybag. Wherever I was, I always seemed to have signal with T-Mobile, usually 3G or HSDPA most of the time.
Along with the great signal, my T-Mobile deal was simply brilliant: 600 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimited Internet and a free phone (a Wildfire S) for just £11 a month! It seemed however that T-Mobile did not care much for my custom as in the 25th month (after the 24 month offer) the price doubled to £22! I then quickly grabbed a PAC Code (surprisingly very easy) and switched to giffgaff.
However, since my Nexus 5 purchase, I'm looking for a 4G deal and Three is calling to me with it's '4G at no extra cost' promise. Can anyone on Three vouch for it's signal strength, stability and speed?
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No. As it's unlikely that we live, work and visit same areas as you. You have 7 days to cancel though. I've been all around London, Cambridge, Oxford and few other places and the only place that wasn't too good was Cambridge. Now and again you get a bad spot, but it's so small that it looks like a local issue with a mast rather than poor coverage.
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Arturnip it depends on location so where do you live? Personally I live in Plymouth and everywhere I go apart from forde valley and manedon main road I have excellent signal, it is more reliable than Orange/t-mobile/virgin from my personal experience (cant comment on O2 but family on vodafone and it seems terrible) and much faster for instance at my place of work I get 20mb/s with <90ms ping on Three but on T-mobile I got 8mb(same as Virgin) and on Orange I got 2mb with high ping, glad I left Orange as it was one of the worst and the most expensive! Currently paying £8.50 a month for one plan at Three due to some deals added together (12 month contract) so very happy as its cheap as chips, extremely fast and can only get better with FREE (or close to it...) 4g! Shame its arriving sometime next year and not now .
I'm happy enough with Three's DC-HSDPA speeds
Switch to Three! There 3G speeds are nuts I get around 15Mbit DL and 5Mbit UL. They are rolling out 4G over the next year or so and will not be charging extra for it, meaning if you have a 3G unlimited data plan you will still have unlimited data with 4G.
Three are the only UK provider that will offer unlimited 4G with no extra cost, madness when you compare what EE are offering.
I'm happy with three.
Also on the one plan unlimited internet and tethering for £15 a month is a steal! (Includes 4G when available also).
All depends on there coverage in the places you visit most and people can't tell you on here. Grab a sim (even PAYG) and try it. Can always cancel.
Here is my speeds and I don't exactly live in a high populated area. (Nottinghamshire)
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I will be moving to the US, specifically LA/Pasadena area, at the end of this month and would like to get some opinions on the different cell providers and the plans they offer. I will be bringing my Nexus 5 which I understand is compatible with all major US providers except Verizon. From the research I have done, my top choice is T-Mobile's prepaid $30 unlimited plan (unlimited text, unlimited data up to 5GB, and 100 minutes). I see Virgin Mobile offers a similar prepaid plan with 300 minutes but only 2.5GB data but I have read that T Mobile has better coverage.
And do I need to order a T Mobile prepaid SIM/Activation card online or can I get one at one of their locations??
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I will be moving to the US, specifically LA/Pasadena area, at the end of this month and would like to get some opinions on the different cell providers and the plans they offer. I will be bringing my Nexus 5 which I understand is compatible with all major US providers except Verizon. From the research I have done, my top choice is T-Mobile's prepaid $30 unlimited plan (unlimited text, unlimited data up to 5GB, and 100 minutes). I see Virgin Mobile offers a similar prepaid plan with 300 minutes but only 2.5GB data but I have read that T Mobile has better coverage.
And do I need to order a T Mobile prepaid SIM/Activation card online or can I get one at one of their locations??
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You can go into a T-Mobile store.
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You can go into a T-Mobile store.
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Thanks! Can you speak on T Mobile's service/coverage in general? One thing I have seen come up a lot is that their coverage can be rather spotty at times, especially indoors. I'm sure location plays a big part in this and its probably difficult to generalize. A lot of these comments I see are from a year or two ago from before or during their 4G LTE build out, though. Is this still the case? Do you find yourself with no/poor service in areas where there shouldn't be any problem getting a good signal. Other comments I have read say this is also device dependent, with manly the iPhone getting crappy reception on TMos network
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Thanks! Can you speak on T Mobile's service/coverage in general? One thing I have seen come up a lot is that their coverage can be rather spotty at times, especially indoors. I'm sure location plays a big part in this and its probably difficult to generalize. A lot of these comments I see are from a year or two ago from before or during their 4G LTE build out, though. Is this still the case? Do you find yourself with no/poor service in areas where there shouldn't be any problem getting a good signal. Other comments I have read say this is also device dependent, with manly the iPhone getting crappy reception on TMos network
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Of course it depends on location, the T-Mobile network is great in New York City and I'm assuming in other large cities as well. However, I found that I lose data in more rural areas. Even though I can make phone calls, there's no internet. However, areas in my home where I previously could not get any service with my old cell phone company, I have it now. Again, I can only speak for my area. As for the company as a whole, so far, no problems in dealing with them.
T-Mobile has great service in the city but in more rural areas, like the person above was saying, can be spotty. Over here they are better than Verizon coverage wise.
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I'm on a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan. Also have a grandfather text and minutes plan. My monthly bill comes out to $65 give or take a couple dollars each month.
Now they throttle my data after 5gb of usage. I didn't mind too much before cause music streaming, e-mail, browsing, and etc still works fine when throttled. But I've been into watching Youtube heavily lately and been using Viral lite to set resolution lower. I also been streaming video from differ sources and the usage of gigs piles on quickly. I'm currently using the S4 and know once I get a Note 4 usage will be even more. I already border or pass 5gb always around three days to a week before the new cycle.
Being that said, I'm looking at T-mobile's "$80 Unlimited 4G LTE data" plan and it's enticing. Also includes 5 GB of tethering. So how is T-mobile's service in NYC area(5 boros and Tri-State) and in So Cal area which I travel to often? Are speeds as good as AT&T, is T-mobile service reliable? I'm pretty satisfied with AT&T service, but the throttling is becoming a problem.
Also reading about how AT&T locks the bootloader so tight, will getting a T-mobile branded phone be more worth it?
I'm actually on the $80 unlimited plan. I switched from at&t about two weeks ago and shared many of your concerns. I'm in SoCal and can say service have been above and beyond what I expected havimg had T-Mobile a few years back. Im getting 5 bars in so many places, from Los Angeles, to long beach, to Torrance, to Culver City. At home speeds are averaging 30 Mbps I live in Lynwood, ca in Culver City where I work I'm at about 50 Mbps. The only place I've lost service is in an underground parking garage.
You dont even have to ask man. T-mobile have no problem with coverage in big, midsize and small city! I have heard people use more than 100GB of data. I average about 16GB.
Thanks for the feedback. I asked one of my neighbors who has an S5 on T-mobile, and he gave the service nothing but praise. Looks like I'll be going with T-mobile. AT&T's prices and tactics have changed for the worst over the years.
yeah, in major metro areas, tmobile coverage is great; its the rural and country type areas that people say their coverage needs work on..
T-Mobile service in socal is reasonably good. I travel quite a bit for work (mostly LA, but Bakersfield to caliexico and out to Arizona runs my area)... LA has good service through most of it, and good speeds as well. Generally, I can top 5 megabytes a second on a weeknight at 1a. Malibu is generally terrible, though it's gotten better in the past few months. Long Beach is pretty good. Anaheim is generally good. Costa Mesa seems decent. From Riverside to Bakersfield, I'll maintain service about 85% of the time. Riverside to caliexico, maybe 70%. San Diego, no issues. Vista, up and down with every mile. San Clemente, much the same. Nothing on Ortega Highway, little worse than a friend's att phone. Palm Springs, good service. Into San bernardino, up and down. Up to big bear, crap shoot but generally terrible, same for Blue Jay.
Through to Arizona, pretty good service. Vegas, much the same. Drops sporadically for both of those, but longer drives.
Hope that helps a bit. I generally run about 40gb a month on average... Mostly tethering (I use a Linux laptop and it seems to bypass their reporting system. I used to ssh tunnel from Windows before that for the same results). I do it for work, downloading firmwares, case and site asset updates (terrible website that will burn 20mb for updating a few dozen items. Bad programming with no caching built in... 2mb parts list each time)
Note 2 for reference. Here as I debate the note 4, then needing a new extended zerolemon and so on.
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Coverage is pretty good down in SoCal. I live in Riverside County and generally get decent coverage outdoors. There is an issue though with T-Mobile being unable to use their 700MHz frequency until KXLA gets off. The Note 5 Might be out then though...
Bloomington, CA. (west of San Bernardino)
I've tested roommates' S4, S5, and the lil red hotspot thing. Over 50mbs consistently.
Bye bye Verizon.