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Well its that time of the year. My ATT contract just expired and I'm due for a new phone!
I was wondering about the Kaiser's media playback. I would really like my next phone to have strong video and audio playback.
I was considering the iPhone, but the lack of necessary features turned me off. I know it is great for media, but that phone is just NOT for me.
I would like your comments on the Kaiser's video/audio playback. Also, what 3rd party apps are you using for your video/audio?
Finally, I was wondering if the Kaiser was for me. Should I wait for another phone with good media playback, or should i jump on the Kaiser. I'm really into phone customization (my current phone is modded up the butthole, both software and hardware) and I know just by browsing through this forum that the Kaiser offers plenty of customization.
I have about a week to decide, so no rush. I would like some honest, well written, feedback. THANKS!!
just2good4u3434 said:
Well its that time of the year. My ATT contract just expired and I'm due for a new phone!
I was wondering about the Kaiser's media playback. I would really like my next phone to have strong video and audio playback.
I was considering the iPhone, but the lack of necessary features turned me off. I know it is great for media, but that phone is just NOT for me.
I would like your comments on the Kaiser's video/audio playback. Also, what 3rd party apps are you using for your video/audio?
Finally, I was wondering if the Kaiser was for me. Should I wait for another phone with good media playback, or should i jump on the Kaiser. I'm really into phone customization (my current phone is modded up the butthole, both software and hardware) and I know just by browsing through this forum that the Kaiser offers plenty of customization.
I have about a week to decide, so no rush. I would like some honest, well written, feedback. THANKS!!
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You mean this as a joke, right ? You want to rub this in ? Have you even read one thread on this board ?
Media playback (both performance and quality) is sub par on the Kaiser. You would probably want to go with another brand all together.
I dont get it...
I can watch whatever the hell I want on my kaiser and its perfectly fine, no lag at all (even on youtube) I almost cant tell the different from my iPod and my Kaiser besides when i poke my kaiser it pauses, and when I poke my iPod, a mac genius comes from nowhere and says 'dont do that'
lol @ tyeo098
video drivers aren't being utilized to its full potential yet because of HTC and their drivers
tyeo098 said:
I dont get it...
I can watch whatever the hell I want on my kaiser and its perfectly fine, no lag at all (even on youtube) I almost cant tell the different from my iPod and my Kaiser besides when i poke my kaiser it pauses, and when I poke my iPod, a mac genius comes from nowhere and says 'dont do that'
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Does it play normal TV shows encoded in XviD without hiccups as well?
The whole point of having a media eccelerating processor for me is that I don't have to worry about reencoding stuff. With the Kaiser I have to in order to maintain smooth playback.
tyeo098 said:
I dont get it...
I can watch whatever the hell I want on my kaiser and its perfectly fine, no lag at all (even on youtube) I almost cant tell the different from my iPod and my Kaiser besides when i poke my kaiser it pauses, and when I poke my iPod, a mac genius comes from nowhere and says 'dont do that'
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Yes it can play everything fine at low resolutions, if you use for example pocketdivx encoder and downsize something to 320x240 it will play just fine, but the whole point is that it has hardware acceleration capabilities that should allow you to play it without having to re encode and downsize videos. You should be able to play a xvid file over wifi without lagging or having to re-encode. The camera should be a lot faster than it is, even a "free" flip phone's camera is faster, internet explorer needs to be a lot faster with scrolling even with the fix.
The phone isn't bad, but its not on par with other 400mhz devices, does that make sense?
Audio quality is excellent with the TMP media player.
difflvl said:
Yes it can play everything fine at low resolutions, if you use for example pocketdivx encoder and downsize something to 320x240 it will play just fine, but the whole point is that it has hardware acceleration capabilities that should allow you to play it without having to re encode and downsize videos. You should be able to play a xvid file over wifi without lagging or having to re-encode. The camera should be a lot faster than it is, even a "free" flip phone's camera is faster, internet explorer needs to be a lot faster with scrolling even with the fix.
The phone isn't bad, but its not on par with other 400mhz devices, does that make sense?
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While I disagree with you on some of your points, I definitely agree 100% with the camera portion of what you said. It is ridiculously slow. For me it is nearly useless. I had a Moto Razr (the first one) years ago, which could take an adequate picture. Not beautiful, not 3MP, but usable. I literally can't use the camera on this phone, because it is just TOO slow. If I can make the subject, and myself stay static for 5 hours (which is how long it seems to take after you press the button), then the pics turn out okay. It's the time it takes which make it useless.
With that said, I love my Tilt, and would never trade it, even for 2 iphones
All i know is that I have basically used SUPER and PDivxE to encode everything that left my computer to a device.
So yes, i guess thats just peachy then.
And it plays youtube videos as well. I watched a whole episode of Kenny vs Spenny on youtube (kenny cheated of course), it was the one where they were obese... and who could be that way the longest.
ANYWAYS...
I see no current problem with TCPMP but thats just me, like I said, you SHOULD encode anything that goes on the kaiser, it takes up less space anyways =D
I just Have one question...
On my PSP (I tend to xcompare the two alot) there is a program caleed PiMP Streamer, basically it lets me stream video, audio, pictures, any media off my computers HDD and on to my PSP's screen. Is there anything for the kaiser that can do this?
Peace-
-Tyeo
Is anyone using it? I just heard about it last thursday. I am using the free version because the only services I need to use are Orb and Youtube. It has some connection issues. Has anyone else experienced this?
Do you mean Kinoma? What are you talking about?
http://kinoma.com/player4ex/
http://downloads.kinoma.com/KinomaFreePlayInstaller.cab
Kinoma user
I have the full version, which is awesome. I use it on my mega commute to and from work. The connection issues always seem to happen in the same spots every day. I imagine it has to do with the area you're in. And it's not just youtube or orb. It happens with internet radio and the like.
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I have the full version, which is awesome. I use it on my mega commute to and from work. The connection issues always seem to happen in the same spots every day. I imagine it has to do with the area you're in. And it's not just youtube or orb. It happens with internet radio and the like.
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What's it like for playing WMV video from storage? I'm looking for a better way than Windows Pocket Media Player as I don't like the screen tearing I get at over 15 fps.
Not trying to bring back such an old thread, but I don't want to start a new one since this is already here.
I've been using Kinoma the past week or so and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm using the free version and my connection is STELLAR. I can stream the 128K streams without any bufferring issues 90% of the time, and I never have any issues with the 96k streams. I'm going to purchase the full version so I can get my old Radio stations back and also get access to Live TV and what-not. There's literally thousands of radio stations on Kinoma. I highly reccomend it.
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Not trying to bring back such an old thread, but I don't want to start a new one since this is already here.
I've been using Kinoma the past week or so and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm using the free version and my connection is STELLAR. I can stream the 128K streams without any bufferring issues 90% of the time, and I never have any issues with the 96k streams. I'm going to purchase the full version so I can get my old Radio stations back and also get access to Live TV and what-not. There's literally thousands of radio stations on Kinoma. I highly reccomend it.
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Plus the full version also plays podcasts. No more having to d/l six different media players just to enjoy all your media and online media,
$29.99 is a lot steeper than free, but when you think of what you spent on software for your PC, it is more in line.
I really like also.
Does it utilise the TyTN II's hardware acceleration yet?
I realise that it's pretty good at playing a multitude of media types/sources but does it use the latent graphics acceleration capabilities of the MSM7200 chip in my TyTN II yet? I believe the upcoming Coreplayer 2.0 is planned to do this (even though the current version doesn't). I'm using TCPMP at the moment which limps along with DivX video in the mean time and have no need to play other additional media types.
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Plus the full version also plays podcasts. No more having to d/l six different media players just to enjoy all your media and online media,
$29.99 is a lot steeper than free, but when you think of what you spent on software for your PC, it is more in line.
I really like also.
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They do offer TrialPay. I signed up for a RealNetworks (yuk) trial, and got it for free. Canceled the trial the next day.
ASX Support?
I'm using Freeplay. I checked the Kinoma Blog and it says the either Play or Freeplay can handle .asx playlist. I tried Freeplay and .asx playlist did not. I was presented with an "unsupported format" error. Has anyone gotten .asx playlist to work on Play or Freeplay? I need this feature for MS Voice Command to work with the player. VC produces .asx playlists.
Yeah, I agree, Kinoma Freeplay is amazing. They have ALL the episodes of MacGyver! Suddenly I find myself not doing any homework during my free periods. As for the connection issues, I don't have any problems at school, but I can't really even use it at home because of my bad data connection. And as for the hardware acceleration, i was wondering that myself. The actual program menus are animated and run really smooth, so maybe. Also, no screen tearing. Anyway, those are just my thoughts.
Dave
The screen transitions are nearly perfect. I'm going to purchase the full version tomorrow I think. I'll write up my impressions after I use it for a few days.
have it
I have a full version, I like it a lot and i use it as main player, only thing i dont like is even if u buy the full version you still need a vip subscription to use a lot of services! I dont like buying the same app over and over again
First of all thank you to all the developers on this site. Your work is truely amazing. Now, Below is a link to an article from engadget. They claim the Netflix streaming software that can be found on a few blu-ray players and soon on the xbox 360 is going to become open to the public to develope for other devices. Now ofcourse it requires a subscribtion to netflix but to just have the abilty to stream movies to the Tilt/kaiser would be great. Not to mention kick ATT mobile tv to the curb. Anyone wanna give it a try?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/30/netflix-api-open-to-all-let-the-developing-begin/
there is NO WAY a tilt has the processing power to handle a stream that big.
I mean it has to be possible if its able to get Mobile tv no?
it would be possible if you put a server somewhere to resize and compress the movies. You could stream them to your home computer then use something like slingbox mobile to re-encode them and push them to your phone. The problem is even with slingbox it is still laggy and generally not worth watching. The drivers on the kaiser suck, by 5G ipod plays movies flawlessly where the same movie on my kaiser sucks.
Maybe. I can watch streaming video on most sites with the Skyfire browser, so using that it might work.
But like someothers have said, might be too much data for the Kaiser to handle.
Now Im in a country right now that doesn't have a 3g network (f ing Belgacrap) ne who. For those in the US ,anyone care to go to netflix website on the tilt and just stream directly from them.
I've searched but cannot really find exactly what I'm looking for so I thought I would make my first thread. This is the question, what can you recommend as far as Streaming Live TV via an Application or even using a Browser.
Looking for someones perspective that does a lot of streaming and has tested and perfected their process.
=p
I know you said this is your first thread........
So I will tell you before anyone eats you up, before making a new thread always do a search first. For 3 reason, 1st it will get people from getting mad and not end up giving you anything, second you might even find something esle that you like and for third you might even find what you are looking for.
All I did was take the 3 words from your sentence "Live TV Viewing" and did a search. And look what I found Click Here , and if this is not what you are looking for just keep searching............
I did not mean to come at you as a hard a$$ but just wanted to give you a heads up, just in case you need to post anything else.
@gsessons: That's hardly a good site in my opinion for live tv streaming. It's very hard to find some good streaming applications and sites, even for the computer. I personally use Orb (orb.com) to stream live tv from my computer (which has a TV Tuner that I installed). Orb is the optimal TV Streaming but you will need a TV Tuner to do so.
If you do not have a TV Tuner, SPB Online has several online streams - but none that actually interest me (they just updated the list of available channels a few days ago as well to add more).
Those are my two suggestions - you can search, but as you can see..it doesn't bring up the best results....
slingbox and slingplayer mobile
I use orb, too. You get all of your channels that have at home where ever you go. However you need to have a high speed connection at home and on your phone so no DSL at home. Also you need to install a TV tuner which isn't hard and I think you can even use a usb one.
I have ORB and Slingmobile.
For live TV, nothing is better than Slingmobile.
You get full control of your TV FAST on my sling while ORB live takes awhile to start, no remote control function on remotes for Ondemand channels and such.
Slingbox owns.
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slingbox and slingplayer mobile
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+1 Excellent
I agree. Slingmobile is amazing. I have had mine for about 3 years now and used it on a treo, mogul, and now my touch pro. the upfront costs are the only downside to a slingbox. it pays for itself in the long run.
Been looking at Slingbox and having everything DIRECTV has to offer it would make sense to hook that baby up to a Slingbox. =p
Can randomly find a cheap slingbox if you keep your eyes open I've just never sprung to the opportunity, thanks for the advice sometimes I forget you can sling to cell phones rather than just PC's or what not.
yep, Orb and Slingbox.
Hey guys,
I'm about to go on a huge road trip (San Diego CA to Washington DC) and my phone will be mounted in the window of my car providing me with directions via TomTom. Now I was wondering, does anybody know if it is possible to stream directly to the web? I would like to add a little "live webcam" section to my blog while I'm driving so people can see live what I'm seeing on the road. If anybody knows how to do this, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
You can stream live using http://qik.com/.
It (usually) works well for me.
The vid can be embedded onto your blog too.
doesnt work for me...gives me a spinning wheel and just sits there...
I know what you mean - it takes a while to buffer up.
It works better as almost-live streaming; if you stop filming, it quickly catches up and the vid is viewable.
This is ok if you're taking lots of short films of a couple of minutes each but it might not be too practical for your purposes - you don't want to be messing around with the phone every five minutes while you're driving!
Ah well, perhaps someone will come up with a better idea - I'd be interested too.
lol your phone is going to melt with tom tom and the webcam streaming.