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AT&T Closing The IS/Tethering Loophole

Its my understanding with the Tilt / Kaiser /TyTN II / Whatever-They-Want-To-Call-This-Beast-of-Burden that using Internet Sharing, AT&T couldn't track tethering except through extreme data usage. Well, according to a feature sheet for 6.1 that I noticed in another thread, in 6.1 AT&T will be able to track tethering through IS and bill accordingly! No more tethering my laptop when I'm on the Greyhound.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68817&d=1202112855

Stick with WM6?

I'm ticked because I just flashed to a 6.1 ROM only to find that out.

or just get the unlimited pda pkg.

Alemaker said:
or just get the unlimited pda pkg.
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Doesn't exist anymore. They've soft capped at 5GB.

Wow!!
Then yup, that stinks.
Got my phone in October, thx for that info-not changin my plan

Alemaker said:
or just get the unlimited pda pkg.
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AT&T considers "tethering" a computer a separate account/line thus unlimited which I have, technically does not allow tethering. So that's why they bend ya over for more money to use tethering with a computer. The computer is technically another line/account.
...I did say technically

Alemaker said:
or just get the unlimited pda pkg.
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well wut if u haad the unlim. pda package and u say now they are capping it. Does the price go down? or am i still paying the 50 bucks.

doesnt it say also have?
it says "enable DUN to be used on devices that also have internet sharing." wouldn't that mean you would have a choice of which option to use.

Looks more like DUN uses IS instead of bypassing it as it does now with 6.0. Currently, you can't track DUN data usage on the phone but the carrier still sees it.
I don't see what difference this new change makes except BT DUN is not longer the bastard, red-headed step-child anymore.

Doesn't seem like a huge problem. Just use a non-AT&T firmware.

I'm confused. I tether using PAN with my Tilt. Does this new feature mean they can track usage of DUN, or both DUN and PAN? So should I be worried that I now have 6.1 on my Tilt?

i am going to florida for four days and i want to tether on my laptop so i can sling box on the comp. If i am caught tethering what is the penalty/charge? if one time monthly charge it might be worth it. also are there any pre-paid wireless internet plans from att or anywhere else?

It's a matter of time before someone cooks a rom or makes a cab that hinders or disables the reporting that you are tethering.
fizzie said:
why they bend ya over for more money to use tethering with a computer. The computer is technically another line/account.
...I did say technically
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But thats the thing.
Technically it is NOT another line NOR account. Why do you think you have to run ICS application for the whole thing to work? It's an application that simply makes any request from your PC be made on the phone natively.
When you connect to port 23 from your computer to a domain -- your phone is simply making that socket connection, and then passing everything back to your PC. It's a proxy program.
So technically, while you play Quake 3 -- your phone is doing the work. Not another telephone, not another line. Nope, the traffic would be the same if you were playing Quake natively on your device. The ICS program just sends outbound anything from your PC and inbound anything to the device.
So I think it is poor business to charge for something just because a program on your PHONE is running. ****, they already charge $50 bucks for unlimited PDA internet, and they cap it at 5 gigs on their network. That doesn't even include tethering! With 50 bucks I can get cable or DSL.
ATT is a damn ripoff. I need to find another US carrier ASAP.

Im confused and somewhat lost....
You know... I tether almost all school day on my tilt and have no problem. I have the 40 dollar Unlimited internet plan and although, may not be the fastest thing around, but for 1.5Mb speed, I cant complain. Im also on ATT btw. I also check my bill every day as well, and havent had a charge for it (knock on wood if I am just lucky then... )

That is definitely something that would have to be implemented through the OAL. That means it's bypassable. It will still just look like data to the phone.

masterdude656 said:
You know... I tether almost all school day on my tilt and have no problem. I have the 40 dollar Unlimited internet plan and although, may not be the fastest thing around, but for 1.5Mb speed, I cant complain. Im also on ATT btw. I also check my bill every day as well, and havent had a charge for it (knock on wood if I am just lucky then... )
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Haha.. yeah me too, i teather pritty much every day at school as well, and wats worse is that i am paying for the 20 dollar MediaMax 200 plan.. i tell my friends in Europe that and laugh in thier face about it too. i used to do it way b4 the tilt came out with my 8525.. lovin the 3G.
Att is to profitable a company for me not to tether.
(and i do use all of my text everymonth as well)

TurboX2 said:
Haha.. yeah me too, i teather pritty much every day at school as well, and wats worse is that i am paying for the 20 dollar MediaMax 200 plan.. i tell my friends in Europe that and laugh in thier face about it too. i used to do it way b4 the tilt came out with my 8525.. lovin the 3G.
Att is to profitable a company for me not to tether.
(and i do use all of my text everymonth as well)
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Awesome, so im not alone on this one good to know now!

jon_k said:
It's a matter of time before someone cooks a rom or makes a cab that hinders or disables the reporting that you are tethering.
But thats the thing.
Technically it is NOT another line NOR account. Why do you think you have to run ICS application for the whole thing to work? It's an application that simply makes any request from your PC be made on the phone natively.
When you connect to port 23 from your computer to a domain -- your phone is simply making that socket connection, and then passing everything back to your PC. It's a proxy program.
So technically, while you play Quake 3 -- your phone is doing the work. Not another telephone, not another line. Nope, the traffic would be the same if you were playing Quake natively on your device. The ICS program just sends outbound anything from your PC and inbound anything to the device.
So I think it is poor business to charge for something just because a program on your PHONE is running. ****, they already charge $50 bucks for unlimited PDA internet, and they cap it at 5 gigs on their network. That doesn't even include tethering! With 50 bucks I can get cable or DSL.
ATT is a damn ripoff. I need to find another US carrier ASAP.
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I wouldnt go that far...until T-Mo gets their 3G in the USA ATT is the lesser of 2 evils (and yes I'm not even including Sprint, they are dead)

Does ATT have ANY unlimited data plans?
EDIT: I was just at ATT's website and they still have MEdia Net unlimited for 15.00 a month and 200 Texts for 5.00 a month. There is also a plan called MEdia Net Max that comes with both for 20.00 a month. Now, if WM6.1 will only allow ATT to monitor the data then isn't the choice clear? Stick with 6.0 or a non ATT rom. Correct? If I'm wrong somewhere, please correct.
Oh also, I'm with a company that offers ATT but I am not billed directly by ATT and this company has their OWN plans. I just use ATTs network. This is ALSO an option. I once used over 10GBs of data tethering with my 8525. I was never charged more than my current plan. $20.00

What is new in the world of the Kaiser?!

The money I was going to spend on the Tilt went to my beautiful new 22 inch LG Monitor (W2252TQ - 270 at Best Buy - best monitor out there.)
So I looked up some news on it the other day, since buying the phone is in my sights again, and I saw that all kinds of things have come out for it. So what do I have to know? What about the battery? Any new killer aps? Slingbox good with it? What about a wireless hard drive I have, think I could get my Tilt to access it? What about my wireless printer, hahaha ok that one won't happen.
And wireless internet is 20 dollars a month? Is it worth it? Can i get it cheaper somehow?

WinMo 6.1 Official with Graphic improvements (maybe drivers), this month..
Some great Cooked ROM's
Some beautyful software...
fixes...
Android..
... Android...
xD
things like that ..
not so much ...
grrr 22 inch sounds great for xbox360 xD!

Cheapest internet is 15 dollars w/o text package. That LG is NOT the best monitor out there benq fp241 ftw

I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?
As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:
$30 unlimited data
$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).
I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?

bengalih said:
I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?
As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:
$30 unlimited data
$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).
I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?
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That's how much they're here as well

bengalih said:
I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?
As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:
$30 unlimited data
$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).
I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?
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You put your sim card in a non pda phone. Call AT&T, tell them you sold the tilt and sign up for the unlimited MediaNet @ 15.00. Put your sim back in the tilt.
your done.
look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388367
See here for a word of caution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391980

the prices are not different from state to state; its just that some people are getting data plans theyre not supposed to be getting. those $15 and $20 plans are for non-smartphone's (ie, those crappy flip samsungs, etc). many ppl use these plans on the tilt and other smart phones with no probs, but rumor has it that at&t does check and will charge you per kb of data that u used....its a risk, up to you if u wanna take it

The person referring to the $15 plan is on a Media Net unlimited plan.
That plan is meant for customers who have REGULAR phones such as the LG Shine or something.
The PDA Plans are $30 for unlimited.
There have been things all around the net that if at&t switches your plan back to what it was supposed to be, you get a rediculously high bill. But they may just be rumors.
Nonetheless it's kind of stealing b/c you're paying for the wrong plan.
The reason they charge more money for PDA data plans is because PDA's are MUCH more data intensive.
Anyway, my brother owns a couple Cell phone stores, and I've worked there for 5 years, so I know what I'm talking about.
The only way for you to have that $15 plan still is if
a) you got it more than a few months ago.
b) the person you bought your phone from stuck the IMEI of a regular phone onto your account as oppossed to your true PDA's IMEI. Doing that would cause the data plans that come up on the feature page during activation to be the $15 media net unlimited plan.
They changed their system so that the IMEI used for activation is what the features shown are based off of for the dealer's activation system.
c) do what the above poster mentioned by sticking your sim in a different phone claiming you are using that one now instead of your PDA.

thehyecircus said:
The money I was going to spend on the Tilt went to my beautiful new 22 inch LG Monitor (W2252TQ - 270 at Best Buy - best monitor out there.)
So I looked up some news on it the other day, since buying the phone is in my sights again, and I saw that all kinds of things have come out for it. So what do I have to know? What about the battery? Any new killer aps? Slingbox good with it? What about a wireless hard drive I have, think I could get my Tilt to access it? What about my wireless printer, hahaha ok that one won't happen.
And wireless internet is 20 dollars a month? Is it worth it? Can i get it cheaper somehow?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000190020+1309822582&name=22"
should have checked newegg on that monitor

omaralt said:
the prices are not different from state to state; its just that some people are getting data plans theyre not supposed to be getting. those $15 and $20 plans are for non-smartphone's (ie, those crappy flip samsungs, etc). many ppl use these plans on the tilt and other smart phones with no probs, but rumor has it that at&t does check and will charge you per kb of data that u used....its a risk, up to you if u wanna take it
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I use multiple phones if they told me I had to purchase a new plan just because I own a Tilt I would cancel my contract unlock my phone and go to Tmobile and get it for $5.99.

ekw said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000190020+1309822582&name=22"
should have checked newegg on that monitor
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Newegg's best reviewed LCD monitor has major defective problems. And most LCD monitors have terrible glare and fake refresh rates, fake 2 m/s, and a fake contrast ratio. It's all on a forum somewhere, I can get it if you want, but LG is definitely better. Plus it's Newegg review is pretty good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005097
ANYWAY, what about the other stuff in my original post? How are the roms coming? I was going to hold off on getting this because it uses Windows, but can we actually have Android on it? What are some good apps?

jeffla i answered your question through PM. feel free to contact me again if you are confused. I was assisted greatly with this issue and I should pass on what I know and learned so far.

iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...
except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.
other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.
the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.
overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda ****ty on this phone.
its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.

LOL I've had mine since october. You don't have to slide the keyboard out all the time and my stylus hardly gets uses. I can even use the onscreen keyboard sometimes with just my finger tip. Seriously, how can you be disapointed by having to use the keyboard? Didn't you even see the phone before you bought it.

tseten said:
iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...
except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.
other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.
the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.
overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda ****ty on this phone.
its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.
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This all are just a matter of customization.
I am using resco keyboard and I can easilly type with my fingers.
Also using UltimateLaunch witch is really finger-friendlly. And there are also hardware keys - u can install quick menu, amd u can make almost everything using the keys.
As I said, its all about your customization.

tseten said:
iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...
except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.
other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.
the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.
overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda ****ty on this phone.
its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.
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As im sitting in court, reading these posts, im just waiting for somone to say the six letter word (iphone)
1. of course the screen needs a stylus, its a resistive display, you can however adjust the threshold to make it more finger frendly.
2. it is user frendly (if you know what your doing)
3. dont base 6.1 these are cooked roms and there are a bunch to choose from, if you dont like the user friendliness the go with a no frills version.
4. i had a crapple junkphone and now that i have a tilt i cant imagine how i even got by with a poopyphone, sorry iphone
5. this phone has a slide out keyboard, were???
6. scratch #5 i was kidding, of course you have to slide out the keyborad to type, unless you know of a way to type on it without sliding it out??
Look in all seriousness the Full duplex pocket pc communication device, we call the kaiser, is a great phone, a power house i tell you, you cant really appreciate it unless you have it. and of course everybody can find something wrong with anything they own, like my brand new (well slightly used) 2007 slk 55 amg mercedes benz, a small scratch on the wheel. And by the way the benq monitor is better than the lg.
So buy the damn phone you will be happy with it.

I was very curious about it's ability to talk to an Iomega "Wireless Hard Drive" that I have. There is software that you install on the computer and it can detect the drive over Wifi. Do you think the phone can do such a thing? Same for my printer?
Anyone here use Slingbox with it? How are the new homebrew roms? Any in particular I should know about?
Is the battery life REALLY that bad?

well i like the keyboard, i just dont like sliding it.
i'd prefer the tmobile Dash , blackbeerry, moto Q, type where the keyboard is right there.
the thing with the sliding keyboard deal is, once u slide, the screen changes to landscape mode, and the resolution or something makes everything a bit unclear to read....
also another thing with this phone is, when i plug in my phone to the computer usb , the screen is always on, it doesnt turn off at all. iv changed the settings to turn off, and it doesnt.
also the keyboard mapping is a little messed up... when i select @, it gives me ! etc etc... as far as i understand this seems to be a common problem with the original dash... its amazing how HTC, and ATT released a phone with incorrect keyboard mappings.
i dont know if it is Dutty's 6.1 rom or is it affecting every ROM... these minor software issues are annoying... how could anyone not fix them before releasing them to the public. another bug i found is when u select the Missed Calls section and then u hit the End Call button, the whole screen gets messed up and u can only fix it by hard reboot.

thehyecircus said:
I was very curious about it's ability to talk to an Iomega "Wireless Hard Drive" that I have. There is software that you install on the computer and it can detect the drive over Wifi. Do you think the phone can do such a thing? Same for my printer?
Anyone here use Slingbox with it? How are the new homebrew roms? Any in particular I should know about?
Is the battery life REALLY that bad?
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1. (wireless hard drive) if it is bluetooth yes, you have a bluetooth explorer folder wich allows you to use it as a virtual drive. I have a old pc with a 80gig hd in it i use exclusive for this. All you need is a bluetooth dongle.
2. (slingbox) tried it on edge (sucks) if you use it on 3g (great)
3. (wifi printing) I bluetooth docs to my main pc then print. I.E. excell doc's and word doc's. Thats a good question i can pair to my wifi printer but wouldnt have a clue on how to print. I would really like to be able, but never really experemented with it. I can controll my pc from my tilt so in effect i can bluetooth docs to my main pc then my remote from my tilt print from my main pc. So i really dont have to touch my main pc. (if you catch my drift).
4. (battery life) I am a heavy user, and i mean heavy. Usually i get 2 1/2 days without having to charge.
5. (homebrew rom's) ive flashed a couple times. but im satisfied with my att stock munus bloatware rom(works good for me).

Well both the printer and the hard drive are over Wifi. Does Windows Mobile work well with Windows programs? I would just have to move the .exe's (and drivers for the printer) onto the phone, I guess. It would really save space on the SD Cards.

T-Mobile myTouch 3G TV-Out Video Cable

[email protected]@KS SWEET!
http://www.talkietech.com/mytouch-3g...5366-7087.html
Product Description:
Turn your T-Mobile myTouch 3G into a mobile media device with T-Mobile myTouch 3G TV-Out Video Cable - (OEM) Original 85366. This cable allows you to view documents, watch videos, or stream media to any television with an RCA Input. The T-Mobile myTouch 3G TV-Out Video Cable - (OEM) Original 85366 doubles as a charger and keeps your phone continually charged, guaranteeing whether you’re using it during a business meeting or an evening entertaining, your phone won’t die when you are in the middle of using it. Regardless if you are delivering a business presentation for a promotion or showing off family photos, the T-Mobile myTouch 3G TV-Out Video Cable - (OEM) Original 85366 promises everyone a front row seat!
T-Mobile myTouch 3G TV-Out Video Cable - (OEM) Original 85366 Features:
Inline USB Charging Socket
Left, Right audio and Video RCA / Phono connections to a TV
Lightweight Portable
Charges you PDA phone
Compatible With:
T-Mobile myTouch 3G

cool accessory

Your link is broken, here's a working link
http://www.talkietech.com/mytouch-3g-av-cable-85366-7087.html
Anyone tried this yet?

DOHCtor said:
Your link is broken, here's a working link
http://www.talkietech.com/mytouch-3g-av-cable-85366-7087.html
Anyone tried this yet?
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I just ordered it today, to bad they dont allow pick-ups. And im in West Covina! (10min away) Sucks!
Oh well should be here by tuesday, I hope

Lakers3408 said:
I just ordered it today, to bad they dont allow pick-ups. And im in West Covina! (10min away) Sucks!
Oh well should be here by tuesday, I hope
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Let me know how it is. I work in Pomona and that's pretty close to whittier also.

yea give us a review, I'm interested cause it would be ideal to play the games and browse the web on the tv (for me at least)

The resolution will be very limited because of the connector type though.

Cant find this item anywhere... can some one help with a new link

Update on order
Well I placed my order on friday the 2nd of October and had to call on wednesday (7th) to check status and I was told that there was a recall on all myTouch 3g TV-OUT Cables due to the fact that the ones they had in stock ONLY worked with the Europe version of the myTouch.
Accoring to the Rep, he was not 100% sure when the US version would be in stock.
The good news is I did receive a FULL refund,
TalkieTech said:
David, we apologize for the inconvenience with the video cables, Our manufacture has recalled them and they will not be available to us until a couple of weeks. We will be cancelling your order and refunding your Paypal account in full, if you have any questions please let us know.
Again we apologize, Please use this coupon code for your next order:
Thank you,
Customer Service Representative
TalkieTech.com
(866) 548-5881
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meh..oh well. guess it was too good to be true.

its on tmobiles site too:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons/Accessories/Default.aspx?categorycode=23

doalittledanse said:
its on tmobiles site too:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons/Accessories/Default.aspx?categorycode=23
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[email protected]@L!
TIme to make a visit to my local tmobile store

Lakers3408 said:
[email protected]@L!
TIme to make a visit to my local tmobile store
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hopefully they have it. i dont remember seeing it.

I have that cable right here, and it doesn't do a thing on my MT3G. I suspect T-Mobile has it in their assortment for the Touch Pro2 (which does work with it).
I wouldn't waste my money on ordering it. If the MT3G had TV Out enabled, someone cooking a rom would have found references to it ages ago.

ScottC said:
I have that cable right here, and it doesn't do a thing on my MT3G. I suspect T-Mobile has it in their assortment for the Touch Pro2 (which does work with it).
I wouldn't waste my money on ordering it. If the MT3G had TV Out enabled, someone cooking a rom would have found references to it ages ago.
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Bummer. Does it at least have audio? and if it does can you charge at the same time?

doalittledanse said:
Bummer. Does it at least have audio? and if it does can you charge at the same time?
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The cable has audio, but my MT3G didn't do anything with it. It has a charging port, and that appears to be the only thing that works. As I said - on my Touch Pro2, there is a control panel option for TV out, and it works perfectly on that.

As it only has the composite, yellow, rca for video out, I don't see it as a big loss ( sorry for the people who already bought it) that it doesn't work. Like said previously, the res on your tv would be really bad anyway. Hate to say it but my ipod touch has component out on its cable and that is analog, but at least it's high res.

Tethering questions?

Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?

bruce_wayne said:
Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?
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Most providers have "soft caps" regarding data usage that seems above the normal use on your account. T-Mobile offers the "unlimited" data plan, but they also will provide you with much slower internet speeds if your account usage goes over a certain amount. This is why it is referred to as a soft cap.
As far as using if with your gaming console, my experience is that you are going to get 3G speeds while tethering (obviously) and while this is enough for light browsing on your laptop, I am sure its not enough for gaming or streaming. As far as the general "will it work" question, I doubt it because I think there are drivers required to be installed on the device you wish to tether.

DirectMatrix said:
Most providers have "soft caps" regarding data usage that seems above the normal use on your account. T-Mobile offers the "unlimited" data plan, but they also will provide you with much slower internet speeds if your account usage goes over a certain amount. This is why it is referred to as a soft cap.
As far as using if with your gaming console, my experience is that you are going to get 3G speeds while tethering (obviously) and while this is enough for light browsing on your laptop, I am sure its not enough for gaming or streaming. As far as the general "will it work" question, I doubt it because I think there are drivers required to be installed on the device you wish to tether.
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i recently tried the wifi tether with the 360 and it worked fine i found a spot in my house that got 3g and tested it. it took it a while because my phone kept on dying.

bruce_wayne said:
Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?
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When you enable wifi tethering on your android device I am about 90% sure that it is an adhoc connection. And unless something has changed recently in the wii software, it doesn't support adhoc unless perhaps your connecting to another wii device. I could be wrong though.

Binary100100 said:
When you enable wifi tethering on your android device I am about 90% sure that it is an adhoc connection. And unless something has changed recently in the wii software, it doesn't support adhoc unless perhaps your connecting to another wii device. I could be wrong though.
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Not sure about Wii, but it has been confirmed multiple times that it will work with Xbox.
However, I find myself always stuck with one question.
Is it really worth it?
There's no way it can actually be fast enough to play a game decently.

thelistening said:
i recently tried the wifi tether with the 360 and it worked fine i found a spot in my house that got 3g and tested it. it took it a while because my phone kept on dying.
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It kept dying cause it was hooked to a 360. The phone would have stayed alive if it was connected to a ps3. lol.
And works fine on ps3

supremeteam256 said:
It kept dying cause it was hooked to a 360. The phone would have stayed alive if it was connected to a ps3. lol.
And works fine on ps3
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haha. there arent any good players on ps3 >:]

thelistening said:
haha. there arent any good players on ps3 >:]
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Just depends on what your playing. If you talkin Madden then you talkin to the right person.

madden isnt my game. so id suck off the bat.
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[Q] Will t-mobile know you're tethering if you don't use their tethering app?

I searched and found all different answers. If I tether my G1 using a different app that requires root...will t-mobile be able to differ between the stock tethering app and a market tethering app? If they can't differ, I wouldn't be charged extra...right?

So far I haven't found any definite proof on the forums. But most of the complaints I've seen were from people using the stock froyo tethering feature. So I guess if you use a 3rd party tethering app you're less likely to be caught. And anyways you should use 3rd party tethering apps because of the extra features they have.

I have been wondering the same thing.. I have been using a third party tether app to allow access to my ipod touch in my car (dont feel like buying another adapter) and i stream pandora through it and so far have not been caught or charged extra.. But like with anything else here use at your own caution. As long as your not downloading torrents, movies, etc, things that are large amounts of data you should be okay x)

Tmobile doesnt charge you for overage of your bandwith, just throttle you to edge speeds after your cap is exceeded.

d12unk13astard said:
Tmobile doesnt charge you for overage of your bandwith, just throttle you to edge speeds after your cap is exceeded.
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They dont charge you for overage but they can tell if your downloading large files which will lead to the suspicious that you are tethering and thus they will look up your account and determine whether you have the app or not and whether they should be charging you for the service..

jr10000 said:
They dont charge you for overage but they can tell if your downloading large files which will lead to the suspicious that you are tethering and thus they will look up your account and determine whether you have the app or not and whether they should be charging you for the service..
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Never got a letter from them in the 3 years i've been with them about any tethering/overage issue. They always just throttle you down to edge, since it's unlimited data for 10 bucks. Unless your on a different plan?

d12unk13astard said:
Never got a letter from them in the 3 years i've been with them about any tethering/overage issue. They always just throttle you down to edge, since it's unlimited data for 10 bucks. Unless your on a different plan?
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On the $30 android plan, and theres something that says if you tether, you will be charged an additional $15/mth

d12unk13astard said:
Never got a letter from them in the 3 years i've been with them about any tethering/overage issue. They always just throttle you down to edge, since it's unlimited data for 10 bucks. Unless your on a different plan?
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Same story here, once I hit my limit they just choked me between 4pm & midnight.

michael2041 said:
On the $30 android plan, and theres something that says if you tether, you will be charged an additional $15/mth
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Ya, the 30 dollar plan thats right same here, you'll be fine trust shadowch31 and me. TMobile dont give a crap if you tether or not.

So, had a talk with my TMO rep yesterday. I was bemoaning how the HD7 doesn't have a tethering feature.
She informed me they are going to start charging 14.95 a month for tethering February 1st.
Is this old news to you guys?

jimbonics said:
So, had a talk with my TMO rep yesterday. I was bemoaning how the HD7 doesn't have a tethering feature.
She informed me they are going to start charging 14.95 a month for tethering February 1st.
Is this old news to you guys?
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Well... Unfortunately it's true. HERE is the article I found.
Oh well... Lucky for me it's built into my ROM. And I will fight it tooth and nail and play stupid if it shows up on my bill.