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Just upgraded to WM5

Hey guys, before anything please let me thank you for this amazing site. You have made a complete n00b to a power-user in 2 days flat. Please do allow me to tell you my story. 2 Days ago I got this thing called O2 XDA IIs (HTC Blueangel) and I got it for around 300US$ (Unlocked/New) was not so fond of Windows devices so intended to sell it off asap and get some other phone, was just doing a little R&D on the net to see what all is available for this thing. When I came across to your site, here's when I got so intregued by the capabilities of this thing.
First I intalled the latest ROM for my device, after getting little confidence I installed WM5 with my fingers crossed. Its all done now but have a few things to ask you guys.
1. When you mentioned about the EXTROM you said that you'll have to copy the files on the StorageCard\ExtRom when all I did was copy nk.nbf into the folder called WM5_Pack_V3 and ran the installer. I did run the batch file to get the oper_code from the DeviceData file. It was all done, I was really scared but now am worried did I do the right thing?
The Device Information TAB shows
ROM Version : 5.03.02WWE
ROM Date : 03/02/05
Radio Version : 1.12.00
Protocol Ver : 1337.42
ExtRom Ver : TuMa v1.3
2. It took me long enough to install this what all tweaks should I do to it so that it stays at the maximum bug-free current stage. (Hope you get me)
3. I need the starting screen to display something other then those scary 3 colored lines
Some things that I noticed after upgrading:
1. WM5 It's a little slow, but definately much better looking and show-off value.
2. I have a Wi-Fi enabled ADSL router at home by which I connect the O2 and other devices its working fine on.
Any help/suggestions/comments are welcome.
A brief intro for me would be have worked as a beta tester for many symbian application providers, was a complete S60 geek and am majorly into bikes & bike photography

Nothing said yet?

Im not sure I understand that whole Extrom deal, but what I can say is that the files that were in the extrom folder inside the upgrade pack must be put in the storage card in the same folder, but that is only if you want MMS and have a camera, if not, then there is nothing to do, unless you edit the Cfg.txt to load all your apps and settings after a hard reset. I guess that if you are able to use the device, you did everything ok as far as the flashing goes. it is a little slow, but its come a long way from the first versions, those were slow as hell, thanks to Mamaich and Tuatara and everyone else this version is running great!
as for the 3 color bar start up screen, there is nothing you can do about it...

Yeah I really forgot to thank Mamaich and Tuatara for their awesome work, now I am really scared as I dont like the slow response and am unable to downgrade. ActiveSync shuts down whenever I try to run the MaUpgradenoID.exe file activesync stops and it is giving errors in connecting, gets DC frequently. And moreover the Manufacturer supplied upgrade is also not working it gives a CountryCode error. Am really confused and scared now what to do?

Well I did not get any help but with loads of tinkering I got the thing done, I wanted to know why was WM5 so slow, otherwise the interface is loads better then the current CE I am using.

I have the Cingular version SX66 Blue Angel. I was able to update it without any problems. Usually speed is very different with those who flush the registry and with those who don't. Make sure you flush your registry after you completed the update.
Mine is faster and way more stable than the other version I had on it. Remember to follow all instructions exactly. if there is a link you need to check and make sure you do the format, change the ram size on the device, then upgrade.

There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?

manav said:
There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?
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During the flashing process, the wiki instructs the user to do a hard reset
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_HardReset
You should answer NO, YES, YES to the boot questions.

Hmm yeah, I did do that. And just am in the process of downgrading from the buggy WM5. It doesn't work out for me.

and THAT'S where I got problems!
in the manual, it says I have to download my latest favorite ROM version, and FROM that file i should copy the nk.nbf the "DOWNGRADE TO WM2003SE" folder..and that's what seems impossible to me, since the Rom-update i downloaded is an .exe application, and not a .zip or .rar archive..
so how should i get the nk.nbf file out of the Rom-update .exe file..?
help

well some were in the same documentaion it should also say use rar or zip to unpack it (being the exe file).
Pls spend some time in wiki you might find some other answers

yeah i had tried that already back then butthat didn't work either..when i try that it still just starts running the program.. :?

Try these instructions with your exe file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903

Debranded MDA Compact II ROM, 'Qtek' Style

now obsolete
new aku2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279908

so am i right in presuming that the gprs settings and phone settings are present in the rom? if not, how do we find them?
ALSO:
T-Mobile are releasing a rom update this month (ie this coming week!) so it might be worth looking at what they have done, not just for wifi fix but any other maintenence changes. Apparently they do alot of testing on their roms so there might be useful stuff there.

t-mobile gprs and wap settings are part of the extended rom. the 3 cabs files that begin CAB-Customization-...
i didnt include them as i'm on O2. This is more like a 'Qtek' version for the charmer, a universal version. doesnt include any operator specfic content.
looking forward to that update, hopefully its aku2, everyone else is releasing theres at the moment.

SDIO
What about SDIO drivers in this debranded OS?

so if i back up my current rom cabs and then install this, if it all goes pearshaped, i can relaod the origional and not end up with an expensive paperweight?
i wanna do the deed, but am scared as hell with it being my first PPC and only a few weeks old at that.
but anything to speed it up, its like im running windows or something.......
oh!
:wink:

only way you could mess up is if you pull the plug or have a power cut! while uploading the new os. remember to backup all your contacts and stuff as you'll need to hard reset.
you can start all over again if it doesnt boot or something by using the install package on the t-mobile site
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com2.html
just go into the phones bootloader, with the phone off, hold down camera and plug in the sync cable until the 3 color boot screen comes up and run the install package to go back to factory.

It worked!!
Dear dave106 and all;
i tried your fantastic upgrade yesterday. This was my experience:
1- I works like charm!
2- you might find it easier to use Total commander to uncheck 'system' and 'read-only' in the properties of the windows folder on your charmer, before Unlocking CID (to avoid any error).
3- alternatively you might use Lockiwiz 2b from this forum to unlock and unlock CID first.
4- the ROM upgrade went fine, showed some error messages on the charmer screen (nothing to worry about) but did not indicate an end. I unplugged it after 20 minutes. It rebooted on itself et voila, it was up and running.
5- Changing the boot scrren went very smoothly.
6- I noted that the T-mobile customization (after the new config.txt) did not install at all. I had to manually install the CAB listed in the config.txt file to reload the MMS and GPRS settings.
But now my charmer has no T-mobile crap on it...
However, i did not notice any dramatic change in speed....

Ill check your unbraded rom for wifi sdio capabilities over the next few days (on a 'just in case' basis). I'm just recovering from a totally borked pagefile on my main pc so ive been too busy to try as of yet.

is this howto working on that device ?
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...schaeftskunde&I_ID=4000&Artikel_Daten_ID=3208
or can i damage something with your howto over there ?

supreme2k said:
is this howto working on that device ?
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...schaeftskunde&I_ID=4000&Artikel_Daten_ID=3208
or can i damage something with your howto over there ?
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thats a wizard, so you can just cid unlock it and install the imate or qtek wizard roms. the mda compact 2 is unique to t-mobile no other operator has it.

aeh....your sentence sounds strange to me, is it possible for my device or not ?

supreme2k said:
aeh....your sentence sounds strange to me, is it possible for my device or not ?
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lol, in a word, no.

i am from czech and i dont understand all of this.
This is OK? or only any idea..
is really decustomization my mda compact II? I have tmobile
(i dont can it)

i flashing new rom....
after 10minutes say my mdac "aplication repllog.exe dont start"
...update is OK, and i have second problem
when customization is start it said " \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-Connection-TMUK-Charmer-Nov15.sa.CAB"
DOESNT IT, I DONT HAVE THIS FILES IN EXTENDED ROM ++
and third problem, my storage card doesnt work ( i have2gb pretec...
only after the update

dead link
Can someone please post a working to the debranded rom? The current link does not work :-(
Thanks,
Dzim

funkus said:
Ill check your unbraded rom for wifi sdio capabilities over the next few days (on a 'just in case' basis). I'm just recovering from a totally borked pagefile on my main pc so ive been too busy to try as of yet.
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Funkus,
did you try wifi sdio with this debranded rom?
tnx

Re: dead link
Dzim said:
Can someone please post a working to the debranded rom? The current link does not work :-(
Thanks,
Dzim
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try it now, some tit nuked the uploads again

Got the Rom Working, the difference is quite noticable. Re wrote the extended ROM to auto customise just enough to get the MMS and GPRS to work correctly. Did any one work out if a WiFi card SD card will now work?
Would like to know before i buy one!

Re: dead link
dave106 said:
try it now, some tit nuked the uploads again
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Thanks a lot, I have spent few hours searching the Web for this file, but couldn't find it. Thumb up!!
Dzim

aWizard not reconizing os.nba
Hi,
have followed instructions as above but when I go to write new rom it can't find os.nba.
Anyone have any ideas on what i'm doing wrong or what to do next?
I'm a noob, obviously :roll:

Any non-programers understand this stuff?

ok, I have read all there is to read on this site and on WIKI. What good is it if what I am reading makes no sense to me? I know what .cab files are and how to use them, but what is a .rar file and how do I unrar or unzip it? Do i really need to create files in DOS?
All I want to do is upgrade my BA (sx66/cingular using unlocked on tmobile) to windows mobile 5.0. I know there are way too many threads on here about people who are getting stuck or having certain errors or need help in some way. I can't even get started! The few "step by step" guides I found, start off easy enough an 3 steps into it they referring to things that I have no idea what they are or how to do (yes i have read all the "please read before asking questions" stuff) Again what good does it do if you dont know what you are reading. Maybe its not broken down into simple enough terms for the average joe.
In any event, is there anyone that can shed some light on this stuff for me or aid me in a walk through. Or am I just out of luck because of my lack of software engineering knowledge? Thanks for your time all and I appreciate any feedback. Surely there is someone out there as dumb as I in this area that made it through (or at least I can hope)

You need winrar (www.winrar.com) to "unrar" the files in order to use them.
Winrar works just like winzip but it handle .rar files. So basicly you will download winrar to your computer, install it, then download the rar file with the rom you want to upgrade your device.
Using winrar open the rom archive and extract to a folder on your computer.
Run build.exe, select the options you want for your rom and press the > button.
From there do as the guide says.

spunk32, calm down We are here to help, not kill newbies
Two things:
1. When you don't understand some terms like "unrar" that not PDA-related, just google it. Things like this are considered basic here
2. When you have specific problem about one of the points, post a question (let's keep it in this thread) and smb will try to explain. But try to understand some of us, that we are not going to explain how to copy or download a file
General comment:
ROM upgrading is not totally safe and error-prune. You have to understand fully what are you doing and what for/what is the result. Basic knowledge of the way the PDA works is also good, to make good decisions on the way. That's why I do not consider updating (especially BA from WM2003 to WM5) as a task for everybody (for ex. I think that updating WM5 to WM6 with full unlocking of Hermes is much easier, but still not safe).
I would propose you to use Baniaczek's ROM (instead of XPlode rom cooking set - I looked at the PDF guide - yes, this one is complex, but some of the pictures might be helpful) as there is one step less on the way.
Full guide for you is here (on bottom of the page)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi
You should go through all the options here, when you update from WM2003. Remeber, that going back to 2003 needs to go through another procedure, that will recreate ExtROM (yes, this is one of the magic words you should understand to play with ROMs).

Thanks for the info guys. ill delve a little deeper and see what happens. im sure ill be back on here with a post when i come to another speed bump. thanks again.

ok, i have gotten this far: downloaded winrar software, downloaded the following ROM-Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2.R2. Then I clicked on MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. When i click continue on the welcome screen, the next screen shows "software converting from....to..." all the data fields are blank. Is this normal and am I on the right path? I did NOT click on upgrade to continue the process b/c I wasnt sure if I had missed something. Thanks again all.

Read what I posted moment ago in "No data from device in MyUpgradeUt" thread. I just checked again screen while updating Xplode on my BA:
In From fields there is only Radio version
In To fields, I have only Ce Image Version: 5.35.05
All other fields are emplty (and not important after all, especially nonexisting ExtROM).

Press your power button, the record button (has a cassette on it) and your reset button at the same time. Wait for the Serial or USB to show on the screen (will be dark) then flash your ROM.
It is in the forums around here somewhere on how to do that but I am to busy to find it for you to post a link.

ok, i think i made a mistake. i got as far as the step where it says you MUST say YES to the first two things on the reboot screen or whatever. all of them said NO, i tried to change it to YES , but i did not know how to change it. i hit the mail button and the screen white and loaded as is. how do i get back to the screen where i need to make the "YES" changes and how do i change NO to YES??

ok, i re-read and saw where i missed how to toggle the YES/NO. so since i was dumb enough to miss that what have i done by not changing the "NO"s to "YES"s? The device seems to be working fine. Is there something that I am not aware of yet?

If you restarted the device and made the hard reset again, this time correctly (selecting proper settings) device should work fine.
You might not noticed, but if you take battery out for while and then start the device, radio won't start (there will be no version next to letter R - means GSM mopdule won't work). You need to make soft reset few secs after first starting of the device to make it run. This is on of not so many problematic things with BA under WM5.

i have not done anything to reset the "yes/no" settings and the device has been working fine all day. i dont ever take off my battery so hopefully i wont have the problem you were refering to.
also, is there any way to remove the camera software since i dont have a camera on my device.
how do i upgrade the radio? i tried WIKI, but i got error messages and when i tried to follow the troubleshooting the links didnt work. outdated i guess.

If you never done correctly hardreset of you BA, you should - you can have a lot of odd problems without hard reset after installing (or upgrading) WM5.
Radio: I followed Wiki and made update radio (1 year ago) from some old version up to 1.13 - without any problems. Follow step after step and port exact error message and on what was happening a this exact moment.

ok, i reset and corrected to NO, YES, YES. thanks. what about removing camera data? any ideas?

You cannot delete apps that are already included in the ROM - this is Read Only Memory, as you know.
When you feel comfortable with flashing and playing with all those files, you will be ready to try xplode kitchen in which you can just select stuff you need to be included in the rom. Manual is a bit longer but still nothing really hard. You can find PDF with full instruction on Wiki pages.

ok i understand what your saying about the camera app. i have tried many times and many versions of the radio upgrade and none work. i have gotten just about every error code there is. am i supposed to be in that "boot" mode when i run it or simple be synced? ill keep looking for a thread that has recent info, but what i see is out of date with links that are no good.

You should follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade and Second Methord Type I EASY (this is the one I used). Because you have no camera, you device is PH20B1, but AFAIK radio is the same.
You need to put your device in "serial" booloader mode (non backlighted screen, "serial" or "USB" written in lower part of the screen depending on USB cable connected or not (Power+Softreset+Record).

blue tooth wont turn on
the wm5.0 has been working great. the only problem i am having is that the blue tooth wont turn on. i have tried every method of enabling it, but it always shuts itself off. any ideas?

[Q] Problems after a dodgy install.

DaveShaw Edit:
Split the thread from the NBH Extract thread.
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!

Shaico said:
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!
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I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave
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Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
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Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
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OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave
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First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!

Shaico said:
First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!
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Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave
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I'm sorry, it didn't help! Or I didn't understand the mining of the post! so I follow the instructions and then what? Nothing change! It's all the same! I can't see any different! What else can I do? How can I erase all the data include all!! Data!! And start again and make it brand new again? Im just want this logo to go away!! How do I make my Kaiser new again with no foreign files that no came with me device from the factory! I want to Cray!! I can't help it any more! Please help.
Can you please help me live? Can we kindly chat in the messenger? I'm lost of me mind with all this posts and cant mange this alone!
Thank you in advanced!

Anyone can please help?

Hi, sorry for the delay.
The instructions in my last post should get you back up and running. You'll have have to read up on the wiki and the ROM Development stickies for more help.
I am at work now, and am pressed for time at the moment, have a look on #xda-devs chanel on FreeNode after 8-9PM (GMT) for me. I'll be able to chat then. (I am also on MSN, but I don't use it at home that often. I'll try and make an effort over the next few days.)
Ta
Dave

Please Help me to downgrade to WM2003

Hi, I have HTC Blue Angel running WM6.5 and find that it struggles to run at this level, i am looking to downgrade to the original wm2003 that it came with, I am on Orange UK
Current Seetings :-
Rom Version : 6.5.23004EN
Rom Date : 06/12/09
Radio Version : 1.15.00
Protocol Version : 1337.45
Extrom version : 23004-xplode
could anyone help and tell me excactly what files i need to download to restore to original shipped state and exactly how to carry out the downgrade.
Regards,
John.

welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony

Decided to go for windows pocket 2005
Thanks Chef_Tony im afraid im running vista and have tried using mtty but with no success, I have now decided to downgrade to pocket 2005, is this possible and how would i do it with windows vista as i am unable to downgrade to XP. Please help if possible.
Thanks John

Bootloader
Hi i dont know if this makes any difference my Bootloader is showing Version 2.05 Reagrds.

no, it does not make any difference, since the bootloader's version is not the problem. before you go on doing anything, you should have a good look at this site:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista_Pic
and unless you are sure, the installation of the driver was successful, you should not attempt to flash the device, because then you will end up with a half-flashed device, that cannot be switched on and maybe also not flashed anymore.

http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?

I have the same problem, as i m downgrading to WM 2003, i followed all the instructions as u mentioned here, but when i run "maupgradeut_noid" it always said that this ROM is not for your device, i have Orange SPV M2000 (Blue Angel), please help i cant able to downgrade to WM 2003.
One more thing is there any way to Merge ExtROM with Storage in Windows MObile 6.5?

byudi23 said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?
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http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now

subratamm said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now
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still can't open http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html too

ok, we are dealing with several different things here:
1. the storage resize:
no, it can only be done in wm2003, no way to do it in wm5 or above, you have to downgrade
2. while attempting to downgrade, don't forget to put your device into bootloader mode, before connecting and starting maupgrade, then there will be no device error anymore.
3. of course for downgrading you need the original rom, at best from xplode's shipped rom archive, if you can't access it, just tell me your favoured language and country, and i will look it up and send you the direct download link. btw. xplode's site works fine!

favoured languange : English
Country : Indonesia
please send me the direct link. thx a lot. chef_tony

since he doesn't have indonesian roms and you are fine with english, here are the links of 2 different UK roms, you should be fine with.
T-Mobile UK WWE 1.42.00 1.42.112 1.13.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload)
O2 UK WWE 1.40.00 1.40.242 1.12.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload).
i hope these links work for you.

thx a lot chef_tony. I almost forgot. I want to ask whether the different rom can drain the battery fastly ? because my battery drain faster using WM6.5.

the power consumption of the device mainly consists of 2 things:
- wireless communications (gsm, gprs, bluetooth, irda, wi-fi)
- hardware usage (cpu & ram)
the wireless does not really vary from rom to rom but much like on the pc, graphically more intense applications use more power and since wm6.5 has a much nicer shell, it uses more ram and cpu to run. that uses more power.
if you want to save battery, reduce the backlight intensity, let the device switch off faster and end all applications that you don't need and de-activate wireless communications that you don't use. still then the battery life is limited but that is something you will have to learn to put up with.

thx chef_tony. I want to ask about the memory used ? is it better with storage 42mb and program 90 mb or repart it into default which is storage 60mb and program 60 mb ? is this RAM configuration also affect the battery consumption ?

no, that has nothing to do with that, because you don't resize the ram, you resize the extrom and the storage. that doesn't have any influence, kind of like the size of the sd card does not have influence.

Chef_Tony said:
welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It was very helpfull!

Showing white screen after hard reset
Dear Tony,
Since I wanted to get more space for my Xda iis tonight, so I install a unlock softwares to unlock the Extrom according to some indication on web, also I format it after scusseful to get a extrom, but I got a freezable white screen after using hard reset, the programe showing rom upgard scussefully but it cannot get into window: Could you teach me how to fix this problem? Can I save my xda IIS?
Thank you so much for your help.
Simon

please do not double post! i answered this exact question in the thread you opened for that.

thanks chef tony!