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Forcing Bootloader Mode

Maybe some of you are already aware of this procedure, maybe not.
Anyway, it worked for me and I decided to share how to do it. Simple.
This procedure should only be used in case you really need enter into a bootloader mode and all other ways to do it has failed! Hold Camera button is one of these I am mentioning.
My Wizard was almost bricked at that time and after I speak with an I-mate technical guy, I got the following:
1. Make sure your i-mate™ K-JAM is not Connected to the PC and remove the dummy card or SD/MMC card
2. On your Desktop PC, open Microsoft ActiveSync, then go to File >Connection Settings >Remove the Selection from “Allow USB Connection with this desktop computer”
3. Reconnect your i-mate K-JAM to the Desktop PC using the USB Cradle and the Charger MUST be Connected to the Cradle (Don’t use the IrDA or Bluetooth for the Upgrade)
4. Run the Upgrade again and it will work fine without any problems.
While upgrading, the ActiveSync program will not go on, however the upgrade is running.
Hope it helps!

this realy worked for my (ex)bricked dutch tmobile mda vario !!!!
tip: REALY make shure that there is no wcescomm.exe running all the time and realy remove the sd card else is nogo
btw: my wizard is CID locked! and works like a charm

Thanks buddy!
I'm happy that worked for ya!
Take care!

I'm having a problem
The power went out as I was upgrading my Wizard (Cingular) so now it just turns on at the boatloader screen. I've tried running updates while it was in this screen (it did show the "USB" in the white bar) but most of the time it tells me there is a connection error. Even if I kill Activesync, I notice that when I run the update utility it still runs Activesync. I've tried disabling the USB connection but still get the connection error.
The only time I haven't gotten the connection error was twice it asked me to update but then told me I had the wrong file. This only happened when I tried "upgrading" to 1.05 as I was trying to start again. After it tells me that if I try running it again it gives me the connection error.
Any ideas?

Hi!
Have you already flashed your device once?
Which ipl/spl do you have?
I had problems over 1.05 ROM in the beggining.
If you stuck on bootloader mode, that's a good signal your device is not bricked.
I'd recommend you to disable activesync as you did and reflash it again! Check also if your device is CID unlocked! Search for a thread in the xda developers root.
Try to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 first and later to others you want.
Regarding the old file error...can be related to a missing file called enterbootloader.exe.
Hope it works for ya!
Take care
Ironman273 said:
I'm having a problem
The power went out as I was upgrading my Wizard (Cingular) so now it just turns on at the boatloader screen. I've tried running updates while it was in this screen (it did show the "USB" in the white bar) but most of the time it tells me there is a connection error. Even if I kill Activesync, I notice that when I run the update utility it still runs Activesync. I've tried disabling the USB connection but still get the connection error.
The only time I haven't gotten the connection error was twice it asked me to update but then told me I had the wrong file. This only happened when I tried "upgrading" to 1.05 as I was trying to start again. After it tells me that if I try running it again it gives me the connection error.
Any ideas?
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My device is unlocked as I've been trying different ROMs as of late. I had gone back to the Cingular 2.25 ROM for a couple days to sort some things out and was going to flash Farias AKu 3.3 when my power problems happened. My Current IPL/SPL is 2.25
I've tried flashing the TMobile 2.26 but keep getting connection errors. In fact, I've tried flashing with every ROM I have pdviet 3 and 4, CIngular 2.25, TMobile 2.26 and Custom 1.05. Everything (except twice in the custom) gives me connection errors.
Any other trick I can try?
BTW, I used to live in Sao Paulo years ago...
Edit: OK, so I tried the 2.26 TMobile ROM after I typed this and it worked!! I'm back up but I was having trouble with that ROM beause of some incompatibilities with Cingular. I'll go back to Cingular's ROM and play it safe for now.
I believe part of my problem was I kept trying different updates one after the other. Now that I think back, the 2 times I got the update to almost work was after I turned off the device and turned it on again, which is what I did this time around also.

I had the same problems as mentioned by Ironman before. I followed the steps and with a few slight changes, I managed as well to "unbrick" my wiz. THANKS A LOT for the great step by step manual!!!
Still I wanted to know WHY i bricked my device:
I was trying to upgrade to the underground WM6 ROM. I got the same situation as ironman:
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The power went out as I was upgrading my Wizard (Cingular) so now it just turns on at the boatloader screen. I've tried running updates while it was in this screen (it did show the "USB" in the white bar) but most of the time it tells me there is a connection error. Even if I kill Activesync, I notice that when I run the update utility it still runs Activesync. I've tried disabling the USB connection but still get the connection error.
The only time I haven't gotten the connection error was twice it asked me to update but then told me I had the wrong file. This only happened when I tried "upgrading" to 1.05 as I was trying to start again. After it tells me that if I try running it again it gives me the connection error.
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I then followed the instructions by epimazzo as written above. I also tried the T-Mobile ROM 2.26 which was not working for me. PANIC!!!! Error messag was that I had the wrong Vendor ID. THerefore no upgrade to TMob 2.26 was possible. I tried it then my original qtek ROM in my language and see it worked!!! This IMHO means that I did not put the device in a proper IPL1.xx and SPL 1.xx status which is required for a clean system in irder to unlock it! So if it is bricked, try your native AKU2 ROM and make sure you unlocked it properly. Maybe you have to run the 1.05 ROM for a second time after the unlocking.
I hope this helps you guys.

Sounds great to hear that!
I had play around with pdaviet3, underground and another ROM just today without any problems at all. I don't think that this is the case. Now you get your device back to normal, try to reflash it again. Hope it works this time!
BTW,...São Paulo is a nice city. Thanks! Let me know if you decide to come here!
Take care
Ironman273 said:
My device is unlocked as I've been trying different ROMs as of late. I had gone back to the Cingular 2.25 ROM for a couple days to sort some things out and was going to flash Farias AKu 3.3 when my power problems happened. My Current IPL/SPL is 2.25
I've tried flashing the TMobile 2.26 but keep getting connection errors. In fact, I've tried flashing with every ROM I have pdviet 3 and 4, CIngular 2.25, TMobile 2.26 and Custom 1.05. Everything (except twice in the custom) gives me connection errors.
Any other trick I can try?
BTW, I used to live in Sao Paulo years ago...
Edit: OK, so I tried the 2.26 TMobile ROM after I typed this and it worked!! I'm back up but I was having trouble with that ROM beause of some incompatibilities with Cingular. I'll go back to Cingular's ROM and play it safe for now.
I believe part of my problem was I kept trying different updates one after the other. Now that I think back, the 2 times I got the update to almost work was after I turned off the device and turned it on again, which is what I did this time around also.
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It seems you got the idea!
You did the right thing! Sometimes, use the official ROM can solve many issues out there!
Keep walking!
enlite_de said:
I had the same problems as mentioned by Ironman before. I followed the steps and with a few slight changes, I managed as well to "unbrick" my wiz. THANKS A LOT for the great step by step manual!!!
Still I wanted to know WHY i bricked my device:
I was trying to upgrade to the underground WM6 ROM. I got the same situation as ironman:
Quote:
The power went out as I was upgrading my Wizard (Cingular) so now it just turns on at the boatloader screen. I've tried running updates while it was in this screen (it did show the "USB" in the white bar) but most of the time it tells me there is a connection error. Even if I kill Activesync, I notice that when I run the update utility it still runs Activesync. I've tried disabling the USB connection but still get the connection error.
The only time I haven't gotten the connection error was twice it asked me to update but then told me I had the wrong file. This only happened when I tried "upgrading" to 1.05 as I was trying to start again. After it tells me that if I try running it again it gives me the connection error.
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I then followed the instructions by epimazzo as written above. I also tried the T-Mobile ROM 2.26 which was not working for me. PANIC!!!! Error messag was that I had the wrong Vendor ID. THerefore no upgrade to TMob 2.26 was possible. I tried it then my original qtek ROM in my language and see it worked!!! This IMHO means that I did not put the device in a proper IPL1.xx and SPL 1.xx status which is required for a clean system in irder to unlock it! So if it is bricked, try your native AKU2 ROM and make sure you unlocked it properly. Maybe you have to run the 1.05 ROM for a second time after the unlocking.
I hope this helps you guys.
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Excellent post. I messed up with my own cooked ROM and could only get the bootloader screen. Tried the tips here - didn't work first time but I pulled the battery from the KJAM to reset it rather than using the reset button and it worked fine.

In my opinion this thread is so helpful to people who brick their device, it should go "sticky". Mods anything you can do about it?

Thanks buddy! I really appreciate!
We survive here over tips like that!
jt_armstrong said:
Excellent post. I messed up with my own cooked ROM and could only get the bootloader screen. Tried the tips here - didn't work first time but I pulled the battery from the KJAM to reset it rather than using the reset button and it worked fine.
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Help me similar problem
I upgraded Super Rom, then my Wizard run very slow and no signal (no call out and in- no network at all). And Terible thing is PC could not dectect PPC thought Active Sync. I've soft and hard reset but no use.
So I donot know where to start to re install Rom again.
Please help me....

Hi there!
It seems that you just need to enter into the bootloader mode and reflash it again!
I had similar problems and more during my brick "false" stage!
So, just try to follow my steps here and you should be fine! Once you get into bootloader mode, just use any ROM out there to reflash.
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thaiphong said:
I upgraded Super Rom, then my Wizard run very slow and no signal (no call out and in- no network at all). And Terible thing is PC could not dectect PPC thought Active Sync. I've soft and hard reset but no use.
So I donot know where to start to re install Rom again.
Please help me....
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I was about to start a EMERGENCY HELP thread, but I *think* this is the right place instead.
The "touch" of my screen went dead today. It got progressively worse over a few hours, starting with difficulty in using the phone dialer, then random incorrect stuff getting triggered by screen taps.
So I hard reset, and got no response on the fifth alignment cross, meaning 1) "Tap on the screen...; 2) center; 3) top left; 4) bottom left; 5) bottom right. In that I could not proceed with alignment, I hard reset again, and now, at the first alignment screen, i.e. "Tap on the screen...", I have no screen response at all.
I called T-mo, and they are being great about sending a replacement ASAP (and getting me a loaner in the meantime).
BUT, I am running Faria+ AKU3.3 V2... so I clearly have to flash back to T-mo 2.26. I can;t figure out how to do it though, as no matter what I do I am stuck at the first alignment screen!!
HELP!! EMERGENCY!!!
(I have three or four days to get this done, so it's not THAT urgent)

Do a search for Broken Screen. Someone (either in Wizard Upgrading or in the Wizard forum) just had a similar issue with a cracked screen. They downloaded something that allowed them to get around the welcome page.

Actually, if you are just trying to flash a new ROM, don't even mess with it. Go straight to the Boot Loader screen (see the first post of this thread). No tapping necessary until the new rom is on (and that will be the Tmobile then so you would be good.

Thanks for the quick reply. Charging up to green now, and then will try to enter bootloader and flash T-mo 2.26. Will report back.

Worked great. Back to T-mo she goes!!!

BootLoader Mode
Excellent thread but you left out one thing.....exactly how to place your device in bootloader mode.
To clear up any misunderstanding because this is very important....this is how you do it:
Perform a soft reset, when the screen goes blank hold the camera button until a multi colored screen comes up .... That's it !!!!!!
When the unit is connected, USB is displayed at the bottom left.

Problem after flashing mda vario

Hi,
I just tried to flash a wm6 rom on my mda vario but at 99% my USB connection stopped so now I only see a red-green-blue screen when I put my mda on...
Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
I'm really desperate right now:S

Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

mfrazzz said:
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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I tried what he says but it would'nt work....
The flash program cannot find my MDA so i couldn't flash the rom onto it
Do you think my mda is dead?

dantheman2004 said:
I tried what he says but it would'nt work....
The flash program cannot find my MDA so i couldn't flash the rom onto it
Do you think my mda is dead?
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Ok, so you are on the bootloader... Whats the IPL / SPL showing (exactly what both numbers are). When you plug in the USB cord, do you see USB above the left softkey (if you do, then you can flash). Is your phone a G3 or G4?
What is the exact error you get when you try to flash to your phone?
Have you tried flashing on a different PC? Have you rebooted your PC? Pull out the SD card on your phone before turning it on and flashing it.
In the WIki there is a link to how to flash from your SD card, if all else fails you may have to try that (but that would be a last resort IMO. Also remember that in the current state, your phone will not charge, so you may have to look at getting your battery charged.

mfrazzz said:
Ok, so you are on the bootloader... Whats the IPL / SPL showing (exactly what both numbers are). When you plug in the USB cord, do you see USB above the left softkey (if you do, then you can flash). Is your phone a G3 or G4?
What is the exact error you get when you try to flash to your phone?
Have you tried flashing on a different PC? Have you rebooted your PC? Pull out the SD card on your phone before turning it on and flashing it.
In the WIki there is a link to how to flash from your SD card, if all else fails you may have to try that (but that would be a last resort IMO. Also remember that in the current state, your phone will not charge, so you may have to look at getting your battery charged.
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The ipl is 1.01 and the SPL is 2.21
I don't get an error when I try to flash the phone, it just won't connect with the pc

dantheman2004 said:
The ipl is 1.01 and the SPL is 2.21
I don't get an error when I try to flash the phone, it just won't connect with the pc
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1) Your IPL is 1.01. DO NOT flash WM6 on this phone. You have to be running IPL / SPL of 2.xx for WM6 to work or you will have all sorts of problems / weird issues.
2) What do you mean "it just won't connect with the pc"? When you are at the bootloader Activesync will not connect, but if you see USB above the left softkey on your phone then they ARE connected. You just run the RUU and it will flash (trust me).
3) Based on your IPL / SPL you have 3 choices...
a) Try flashing the Button ROM and get that working. Then do the CID Unlock procedure and follow every single step and verify everything is exaclty as that thread says it should be:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
b) Flash an official ROM. Once you are done, you may or may not have to do the CID Unlock (hard to say with your current IPL / SPL situation). Personally I'd do the CID unlock again to be safe.
c) Flash the Wizard Love ROM (if a and b don't work). Once you do that, then do a to do the CID Unlock.
If this still doesn't help, then you need to be very precise (no more short answers) with exactly what you are doing and what happens when you do it. Its hard to debug this situation when you don't tell us everything. Also you dd not answer any of my previous questions to you. Please do that.

I am having the same problem with a Cingular 8125. I used buttons 1.05 rom to downgrade from the original 2.25 so that I could use the Lokiwiz 0.2b. When that was complete I had IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.25 (similar to dantheman). After that I ran faria's WM6 RUU. All seemed to install well, but after reboot I got error "\Windows\Autoconfig.exe not found". Searching a forum on HTCWizardWeb someone had the same problem and the advise was that he should have used ShellTool to install the WM6 rom, so I did that. All seemed to install well, but after hard reset (as instructed) the device stays on the IPL/SPL screen with the beer mug. No USB message shows above the left softkey when USB is connected. The only time the PC seems to recognize a USB device connected is when I have uninstalled ActiveSync, rebooted, re-installed activesync and plug the wizard in not powered up. Then the taskbar shows USB device found, then your device is ready. I try the 1.05 rom after is says device is ready and it does not detect the wizard (Error 260:UpdateError, The update util cannot connect...) Noted that when I plug the wizard in powered on to the IPL/SPL screen the USB device connected message does not appear. I can only get to that screen and connectivity seems limited.
At this point when i do a hard reset I get "format failed" error and back to IPL/SPL screen.

mmain said:
I am having the same problem with a Cingular 8125. I used buttons 1.05 rom to downgrade from the original 2.25 so that I could use the Lokiwiz 0.2b. When that was complete I had IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.25 (similar to dantheman). After that I ran faria's WM6 RUU. All seemed to install well, but after reboot I got error "\Windows\Autoconfig.exe not found". Searching a forum on HTCWizardWeb someone had the same problem and the advise was that he should have used ShellTool to install the WM6 rom, so I did that. All seemed to install well, but after hard reset (as instructed) the device stays on the IPL/SPL screen with the beer mug. No USB message shows above the left softkey when USB is connected. The only time the PC seems to recognize a USB device connected is when I have uninstalled ActiveSync, rebooted, re-installed activesync and plug the wizard in not powered up. Then the taskbar shows USB device found, then your device is ready. I try the 1.05 rom after is says device is ready and it does not detect the wizard (Error 260:UpdateError, The update util cannot connect...) Noted that when I plug the wizard in powered on to the IPL/SPL screen the USB device connected message does not appear. I can only get to that screen and connectivity seems limited.
At this point when i do a hard reset I get "format failed" error and back to IPL/SPL screen.
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Your phone isn't unlocked. How are you hard resetting? And you are sure you have a G3?
--M

You didn't follow all the directions for downgrading. Go back and reread Dr P's sticky, but after you do lokiwiz, you have to flash the button rom again so that both IPL/SPL are 1.xx. Then you HAVE to upgrade to an official 2.xx rom to get IPL/SPL to both be 2.xx.
Only after that is complete can you flash WM6 or other custom roms.

Thanks for your help...
You guys are right, I didn't follow all the directions correctly (or at least wasn't reading the correct set of directions, not sure). But for those that made the same mistake that I did here is how I got it going again.
It actually cost me $50, but it was worth it. I found a post about a fix using an SD card, but the phone had to be CID-unlocked (which apparently was the reason the ROM update I tried failed). And another post told me the only way to unlock my phone from the bootloader screen was to use the www.imei-check.co.uk website to unlock it. It cost $40. After i did the CID unlock via that website go to the forum post -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963&highlight=splash+screen+freezing
I had to buy a 512mb miniSD at wal-mart last minute and paid $20. Anyway that's what fixed it for me, even though it cost me some money.

Did I kill the Wizard? :-(

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I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((

Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?

I think it was 2.26 (it may have been something like 2.27....), but it definitely didn't have the .000 at the end. I thought that the Wizards without the .000 were G3. Did I screw up?

Madcap180 said:
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
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2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001 would be a G4
2.25 or 2.26 would be a G3

MacGuy2006 said:
I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
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I thought I read somewhere that IPL/SPL 3.08 was a bad convert from a Charmer? If this is true and the Charmer bootloaders are different than the Wizard bootloaders then you may have put yourself in a bind.
The fact that you can still get past bootloader is promising even though the phone doesn't finish booting.
Try flashing from the bootloader (tricolor IPL/SPL screen with USB in the corner)

Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?

MacGuy2006 said:
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
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You CAN'T use shelltool in boot loader mode! it needs the OS and the TRUFFS to read and write to the phone.
Any phone that doesn't go past the boot loader must be fixed with mtty, RUU or SD card...

Thanks for the info. I've been reading about mmty and just downloaded it. But I only have a 4GB card handy (from my Trinity.) I might be able to find my old 2GB one at home.
Edit: Well, this is what I just found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308772&highlight=mtty+wizard
It seems that the IPL_SPL 3.08 might be a real problem. I'll try the card flash, but based on the above thread, I am not holding my breath.
If anyone has a suggestion or a solution, please let me know.
Thanks!

BTW, if the problem is indeed with the IPL_SPL 3.08, then perhaps the suggestion that we upgrade to it (in red) here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 should be removed, so that we don't get more expensive bricks.

Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.

TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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After I unlocked my wizard and before I try any new ROM, I always burn the latest German wizard ROM with 3.08 IPL/SPL "ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship". Then I downgrade the Radio ROM to Cingular 2.25.11. Then I burn my ROM of choice. I've found it works best for me. I've never had a problem with 3.08.

TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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What are the grounds for such a comparison? How to tell that an SPL works better than another? As far as i know the SPL is there to initialise the hardware and to apply security restrictions.
What i'd like to know is if anyone has been successful in downgrading IPL/SPL from 3.xx to 2.xx as itsme once said that there was a security in newer SPL's preventing downgrading (i must look for it...)
cheers

O.K., so maybe it's not 3.08, but something has sure gone bad.
I am trying to use mtty 1.1.42.538, but see only Port 1, Port 2 and USB. When I type in \\.\WSCUSBSH001 I get a message that it cannot open the \\.\WSCUSBSH001 port.
I tried resetting as described in message #7 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264652&highlight=mtty1.42, but nothing happened.
I also tried choosing USB, then typed in r2sd all and again, nothing happened - I just get CMD> again....
So, can anyone think of anything else I can do, or should I just drop it from the 4th floor?

What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?

mestrini said:
What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.

MacGuy2006 said:
Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
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I had also upgraded my IPL/SPL to 3.08 -- up from the 2.25 on the newest Cingular ROM.
Anytime I've flashed to a WM6 ROM, I've been able to downgrade to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM -- which changes the IPL/SPL to 2.26 -- with no problems before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. After flashing the WM6, I then go back in and upgrade the IPL/SPL once again to 3.08. It's not failed me yet.

O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?

MacGuy2006 said:
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
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If I were you I might be talking to IMEI unlockers. Their process works from bootloader and might be able to get you CID unlocked and fix your corrupted CID area, which seems to be your major problem atm. In any case I would contact them and explain your situation and see if they think their software will unlock your phone. If so then you should be good to go once you CID is "uncorrupted" and unlocked.

one question: can You HARD RESET your device?
Do you have "format failed" message?
if so, you have 50/50 per cent for resurrection.
3.08 is not direct problem here anyway..., version is not exactly matter of problem...
(imei? now? lol)...

Thanks!
Yes, I can hard-reset fine and it claims to reformat fine.
Tx for the suggestion - I will contact IMEI (they unlocked my Trinity before the free unlockers were available

no usb contact at all

after downgrading to buttons 1.05 rom and used lokiwiz to cid and simlock unlock my vario g3 i flashed it to t-mobile 2.26 after that i flashed it to crossbow reloaded v 1.7 but got alot of glitches with the keypad and the alarmclock did not work at all so i wanted to try another versin but i cant get activesync to work,no connection no nothing....also starting up in bootloader with soft reset and camera gives me a nice colourfull screenie but no usb text at the bottom so can i get another version on my mda or did i bust it up big time lol

dazzle999 said:
after downgrading to buttons 1.05 rom and used lokiwiz to cid and simlock unlock my vario g3 i flashed it to t-mobile 2.26 after that i flashed it to crossbow reloaded v 1.7 but got alot of glitches with the keypad and the alarmclock did not work at all so i wanted to try another versin but i cant get activesync to work,no connection no nothing....also starting up in bootloader with soft reset and camera gives me a nice colourfull screenie but no usb text at the bottom so can i get another version on my mda or did i bust it up big time lol
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What are your current IPL, SPL, GSM and OS versions? Your description makes it sound like there is a conflict, though you said you did flash the T-Mobile 2.26 prior to your WM6. Maybe you flashed a modded one that doesn't have IPL/SPL? Does the radio/phone part of your device work?
Don't worry about activesync. Just boot into bootloader (see the wiki if you don't know how) and flash from there as long as USB shows in the corner you are connected. Your issue may be as simple as a bad flash of the rom you are trying to flash. I would suggest re-downloading it and trying again if both your IPL and SPL are 2.26. (or picking a different WM6 rom)
Ok just saw that you aren't getting USB on your bootloader screen you can always try the SD card method. I myself have never done it but many people have revived their devices using this method. Wish I could be of more help.
Also just in case you haven't done this already: reboot the PC. If you haven't upgraded to ActiveSync 4.5 I think you need to do that before you can get a connection in WM6. Google Activesync 4.5 and you should get the MS download page. Download that and install it and that may fix your issues.
Good luck

ive tried to reboot the pc and upgraded my activesync offcourse the rom cant be flashed from sd card i get a error when i try this also the usb is not working my ipl and spl are both 2.26 gsm 025.11 os 2.18.00
crossbow is still starting propperly but there is no way i can upgrade/downgrade

No Activesync After Button 1.05 Romload

I cannot get activesync4.5 to link up to wizard after loading button rom. IPL is 1xx and spl is 2xx. I am not sure what to do next with this since I cannot cid unlock without getting a connection with as. I have not found any definitive answers anywhere, and I have been reading alot, and then I read alot more. I have cleared the temp folders I have ran chkdsk I have manually started as on ppc. I really could use some help on what my next steps should be to get a link up from the ppc to the pc.

you're phone didn't flash correctly. put the phone in bootloader mode (hold the comm manager, the voice dial button, and hit the small hole on the side at the same time...should bring you to the tri-color bootloader mode) and reflash butons 1.05. you need to keep reflashing until BOTH your IPL and SPL are 1.05. having different numbers is not a good thing.

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you're phone didn't flash correctly. put the phone in bootloader mode (hold the comm manager, the voice dial button, and hit the small hole on the side at the same time...should bring you to the tri-color bootloader mode) and reflash butons 1.05. you need to keep reflashing until BOTH your IPL and SPL are 1.05. having different numbers is not a good thing.
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This is an 8125 and I have been able to get to the bootloader screen by pressing the camera button and power together. I have an IPL of 1.01 and an SPL of 2.25. I have flashed the phone 3 times now and there has been no changes as to the SPL as of yet. I will go for another round on it. Has anyone else encountered this problem with G3 8125 Wizard??? I have seen similar problems while reading through the forums, although no solutions.
When you press the comm manager voice dial button and press the small hole on the side that is for a hard reset right? Anyways I have reloaded the button 1.05 rom and it still has 2.25 SPL any ideas????

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Anyways I have reloaded the button 1.05 rom and it still has 2.25 SPL any ideas????
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yes. flash the original 2.25 you had before or the wizard love 2.26 (assuming your phone is already CID unlocked)

mestrini said:
yes. flash the original 2.25 you had before or the wizard love 2.26 (assuming your phone is already CID unlocked)
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how can it be cid unlocked if I have not succesfully gotten the phone to connect with activesync4.5 to be able to load the enablerapi file and run the lokiwiz.02b bat file??? This lack of connection to the AS is where I am stuck. From the read first sticky I should be loading the enablerapi file on and running the lokiwiz.bat file. I am not making a connection between the phone and the computer to be able to do that, at this time. I have now loaded the button rom on the phone 5 times and still no change in the SPL. What am I missing here????
One other thing that I noticed is that when I plug the USB into the Wizard it immediately trys and succesfully sets up a local area connection. It is currently set up as local area connection 5. This connection says that it is a windows mobile based device connection. What do you all make of this one??
currently these are my boot readings
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.25
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
Cingular/ATT Customer
8125 HTC Wizard
MODEL 100
UPDATE!!!!! So the answer to my own thread for anyone that will run into this problem, for myself, was to load the button rom then remove activesync program from xp, then without reboot redownload activesync with the phone connected to usb, if it still does not come up reinstall button rom without reboot. Also disable ALL firewall and antivirus programs. This should get the activesync to see your device, and then it will try to connect. Just cancel the attempted sync connection and you will be on active sync as a guest. I hope this will help out some newbies.

I am experiencing the exact same issue. Any ideas??

Uninstall ActiveSync 4.5 and install an older version.
AS4.5 seems to have problems with some WM5 devices.

starkwong said:
Uninstall ActiveSync 4.5 and install an older version.
AS4.5 seems to have problems with some WM5 devices.
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I tried 4.5, 4.2, and 3.8 all without luck. Any other ideas?

Tried on another XP machine and it worked using ActiveSync 4.2.Now if I can get activesync to connect to WM6 ...

Finally someone mentions the OS on the PC. That will help alot you know. well hope all is sorted out! Good luck

Well i've tried several different versions of activesync (3.8, 4.2, and 4.5 which is needed for WM6) uninstalling rebooting, connecting the device several times, rebooting both the laptop and the phone, and nothing seems to work on my newer Core 2 Duo laptop. It simply will not connect to the phone. It worked perfect _before_ the downgrade to the Button ROM though using activesync 4.2 and 4.5 to the Cingular ROM.
All works perfect on my older P4 laptop though, both run Windows XP SP2 btw. Button ROM connected first try. I'm thinking something may be wrong with the OS on my new laptop, so I may have to blow it out and start all over since it's the one I need to sync with...
At least I got the XDA WM6 r2a Rom, IPL/SPL 3.08, and Faria 2.69.11 installed and working without a hitch on the 8125 so its fully usable now. Now to keep plugging away till I can sync it on my main laptop.
Frustrating!

where can I find active sync 4.2? I'm stuck just like he is.
I got IPL 1.01 and SPL 3.08
i'm in bootscreen right now trying to reflash it, but nogo.. I can't get a connection with activesync, so the romloader program is not getting a good connection

razorseal said:
where can I find active sync 4.2? I'm stuck just like he is.
I got IPL 1.01 and SPL 3.08
i'm in bootscreen right now trying to reflash it, but nogo.. I can't get a connection with activesync, so the romloader program is not getting a good connection
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Look here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3a-28bf-4cac-a682-58d3233efb4c&displaylang=en