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ROM Update: is this possible?

Greetings all. I am new here, but hopefully I will be able to contribute in some small way to the community. After reading about the wiki, ROM kitchen, and cooking, I have a few small questions that will help me jump into the waters and help out.
I have a new PDA2K on Cingular here in the U.S. that came with ROM 1.22.00 WWE Radio 1.06.00 and EXT ROM 1.22.162 WWE.
I would like to update to the most recent ROMs for the Radio, primary, and extended ROM and still retain the new version of KSE Truefax 2.09 and possibly other software that came as part of the package from I-mate.
When cooking a ROM: Is it possible to retain any of the software from your own ROM and aggregating it with the best radio ROM, make a unit that is truly updated in every way possible? If I took elements from the "i-mate_PDA2k_Arabic_13100_112_10600_SHIP" release that is on the FTP site and added the 1.08 or 1.10 radio ROM, would I have certain components that are in Arabic or is that concept misleading?
My point is: I think will I lose the software that came with the unit when I cook a ROM to update the unit and I would like to keep it as I paid for it in my purchase price and I would like to use components from other language ROMs but am concerned I will have components in my phone after the update that are in a language I cannot read.
Please guide me if you have a moment.
Aegeas

I had hoped that I had covered all of this is wiki, but it seems not.
your deivce has 3 parts
1) the os version and its language
2) the extneded rom
3) the radio
each of these can be updated one at a time or all together.
1) The os part is based on the windows version and its build, if you can find a versiont that works with our tools you can update that. In this case the 1.31 arabic in WWE is a good choice.
2) the Extneded rom is based around the applicatons that the porvider gives you as well as the provider customization. Here you can pick and what you want and the term that we use on this site is cooking.
You will need to flush your exteneded rom and cook a new one with what you feel you want (like applications) and you feel you need (as in porider customisation)
3) The radio is based on the type of device you have and in your case can be updated to 1.08.00 as we have yet to find a copy of the 1.10.00
So your issue of the fax software is solved in the cooking of the exteneded rom. allas the files have gone as some nice person has trashed 2 months of work and deleted them. however the 1.22 kitchen is again around so you can get what you need from there or from your device. copy them into your exteneded rom, edit the config.txt and perform a hard reset.
So to keep the stuff you have you need to save the cabs out of your extended rom, update the device (os and radio), flush the exteneded rom and cook your own rom (all covered in the kitchen).
You will do fine and if you have a problem just post it.

Answer
This is exactly the sort of definitive and succinct answer I needed. Your simple clarification has helped me and will no doubt help others. Thank you, again.
Aegeas

WHOAH! :shock:
Am I reading this correctly? So I can pretty much update to whatever ROM version and radio version I want, regardless of language? Anything I need to look out for in particular? I've got the upgrade bug now! Got my BT upgraded to 3900.
ROM 1.22.00 WWE
Radio 1.06.00
extROM 1.22.162 WWE.
How far can I go in an English version? Or does it matter so long as my windows version is English?
Thanks again!
Sam

Vodafone VPx / PH20B2 Upgrade?

Hi all, I have a VPx with version 1.22.00 WWE / 1.06.00 / 1337.38 / 1.22.155 WWE. I am interested to upgrade particularly the radio version and figure that I might as well just go to 1.40 as this includes everything.
I believe that I will need to use the generic Qtek 9090 1.40 WWE ROM as Vodafone have not published any upgrades. Question is, will it work with the PH20B2 specifically? Are there any caveats to watch for, anyone else who has already done this same unit upgrade?
Many thanks!
JBN

I'd like an answer to the above, as I'm using the exactly the same PDA.
Anyone care to comment?

Well the answer is indeed to use the Qtek image and follow the instructions from Wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
This will remove all of the Vodafone branding from the Extended ROM so when it reinitialises you will lose the Vodafone theme and the bootstrap image changes from Vodafone to Qtek. Bear this in mind if it matters to you in the future.
I had to use the MaUpgradeUt_noID utility and the first time it stalled. After 20 minutes I killed the process (under XP) and reran it, successfully.
Use at your own risk!
JBN

Thanks for the reply JBN.
Which upgrade do you suggest, as there are several available there?

I used 1.40.147 as this is the basic WWE image. I cannot speak to the suitability of the other versions.
Hope this helps,
JBN

I tried the Image mentioned above & it worked great !!

Congratulations
Glad to hear it! The VPx is no longer sold by Vodafone, and even its replacement the V1620 (identical in almost every way) is apparently on its way out.
However the good news if you feel brave and look around the forums is that a lot of work has gone into hacking Windows Mobile 5 images suitable for Blue Angel. So if you are not dependent on official support then you don't have to miss out on WM5 advantages such as they may be!

[T-Mobile UK- MDA III] Upgrading Rom - help for newbie

Hi everybody.
First of all, thanks for this really nice forum.
I am a complete newbie in Pocket PC world. I am coming from Palm world. In fact, I was so much disapointed by palm that I decided to switch.
So, I have just purchased in London a second hand T-Mobile MDA III. I have unlock really easily with the program I found on this forum.
Now I want to upgrade the ROM because regarding the version of mine, it seems pretty old. Here is my version description :
ROM Version : 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date : 08/05/04
Radio Version : 1.00.00
Protocol Version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.117 WWE
Model No. : PH20B
I have read a lot of information about this subject, but to be honest I am completly lost.
First I don't understand what is an extended rom ? I mean why there is two roms.
Secondly, what is the last version of the ROM I can use to upgrade my MDA III. I don't care that much about the T-Mobile configuration since I am using it in France. So anyway I will have to put another configuration for my carrier. So what ROM can I put and what is the process to do the upgrade. For the moment I don't want to upgrade to WM5 just new version of WM2003 SE. In fact, if at the same time I can get rid of the T-Mobile branding, it would be great, but it's my principal reason for upgrade.
Also, my last question is that sometimes after using my mda, it seems to run quite slow, specially display. Do you know what is the reason ? I am thinking it might be relating with the use of WM9.
Thanks a lot for your help guys.
Julien.

Hi
First of all: read all the wiki section for BA (BlueAngel)
It's quite well explained there.
Your roms are indeed old.
Go to the wiki section and download newest rom update.
( I think that I-mate's update has ROM 1.40.00WWE with Radio 1.12.00 and ExtROM 1.40.176WWE )
Upgrading is very simple, when you follow wiki.
ExtROM is a portion of ROM that contains installation files for provider-specific applications and some hotfices (CAB files). ExtROM can be edited by user (cooking) to personalize your device best.
At your point I suggest using extROM from this update.

Thanks a lot Robal.
I had to check some other post, because my current ROM was in ENG. So I use some trick to use WWE Rom.
But now it is working great.
Julien.

Help upgrading my Qtek 9090 Rom

I have Qtek 9090, and i would like to upgrade the ROM since my current ROM has many Bugs, could anyone please tell me how can i do such thing. I ve never done a ROM upgrade, here is some info. about my 9090:
Language: Spanish
R 1.12
G 1.337.42
D 1.40.03 ESN
Thanks in advance.
Rocho

Please read WIKI. The rom upgrade procedures have simple explaination there

xplode:
i checked the WiKI database, greate source of information.
but i still can't find information about wich ROM should i install in my QTek 9090, since its spanish version and i didn't find out the spanish ROM there and not sure wich version to install, if you could help me would be of great help. thanks in advance.

If you want a spanish rom then there is the
Qtek ESN DANGA304 1.40.03 1.40.158 1.12.00
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
The instructions are the same as for the English roms you just need to dowbload a different file.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
You can then upgrade the radio to 1.15
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade

Ok mate, thanks for the answer.
Is this image the 1.42 ROM??, cus i readed this is the final ROM Update,
Qtek ESN DANGA304 1.40.03 1.40.158 1.12.00 ????????? this is what u suggested...
i really don't care about the language of my PDA, but the DEFAULT LANGUAGE of my PDA its on Spanish, i don't know if i can install English ROM????
i just want to install the best ROM, Spanish or English doesn't really matter.

Caballero,
You asked for a Spanish version, so the reply was on where to find info on that Spanish version...
The latest WWE version is 1.42, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=172031#172031
I would however suggest to wait for Tuatara's TuMa 1.4 WM5 Rom...
In the meantime I strongly suggest to start reading the wiki page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
If you have read & understood on the regular Roms and you feel confident enough, proceed to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home
for the WM5 Rom...
Buena Suerte!

You can install any language rom, the latest shipped english rom is 1.42 and german is 1.42.01. The latest spanish rom is 1.40.03.
In Windows Mobile 5 The best roms are 2 IMHO
1.WM5 ported from Wizard version 2a - beta
2.WM5 ported from Wizard version 1.3-TuMa beta
WM5 roms are in english

ive read all the pages but im still a little confused of wich rom should i upgrade with.
my device information is:
PH20B0BESNNBSTAR301
 1.40.03 03 1.40.1781.12.0012.00
i didn't find operator rom suppor as STAR301...?? im miss, really :s
In the device info says:
ROM 1.40.03 esn
Extended ROM 1.40.178 esn
Radio 1.12
* I would like to upgrade my device to the latest WWE WM2003 (not WM5 upgrade). release that would run properly in my device. I just don't want to screw it, and im having problems with the online info. please give me a hand. much thanks.

Oye, eres tonto?
Read http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
and stop anoying everybody!
If you do not understand, use a landline :twisted:

GREATE THIS FORUM OWNS
I have successfully upgraded my ROM to the latest 1.42 from T-Mobile, i also upgraded the Radio to the 1.15.
i also fixed my default language to spanish qwert thanks to user called Antz that developed a greate .cab file...
much love XDA pimps
and thanks

T-Mobile Rom for Vario / Wizard

hi everybody,
do somebody know anything 'bout an new update?..
i ve heard bout a test version 2.8.x but i cannont find it anywhere. and when will be the new one released.
greets from the chiemsee

we are currently on version 2.17/2.18 FINAL (Qtek ROM). T-Mobile haven't released any new yet.

I've not looked into upgrading my ROM yet as there seem to be so many horror stories around here.
Could someone say what the main benefits of newer ROMs are (I'm using the latest UK T-Mobile factory-fitted ROM at the moment) and what the dangers of installing non T-Mobile ones are? (I've already turned off most of the T-Mobile rubbish, but I don't want to suddenly lose Text or MMS messaging, or my default GPRS internet connection, etc). And if I upgrade the ROM, can I just use something like SPB Backup to restore all my applications, messages, etc. automatically or do I need to re-install applications by hand?
Andre

The new Rom is faster, has DirectPush Support and there are a few other little things better. And in the QTek Rom is no T-Mob. branding.
The Danger (with all rom updates, not only with non T-Mob. Roms): It's possible that you damage or destroy your device. Important is that you use lokiwiz to unlock your MDA for other Roms than from T-Mob.
I recommence reinstalling the apllications by hand. yfor mails etc. you can use spb backup. (if you haven't it on your pc to resync too)

i know about the new qtek 2.18.. but here in the forum in a topic the tell about 2.8 t-mobile test rom or beta rom.. possibly a wrong number... do anybody still have this rom?.. better in german lang.. or a way to downgrade from the new qutek to t-mobile... cause i don t know if it s possible to take my baby back in "real" t-mobile-flair if there is a problem with warranty someday....
greets and thx for the fast answeres
carsten

Hello,
I'm also using a T-Mobile Vario with following device info:
ROM version 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date 11/15/05
Radio version 01.12.10
Protocol version 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version 1.6.2.105
But I'm not on T-Mobile network and I use 802.11g wireless instead of GPRS, so I don't care about whether or not to stick with T-Mobile ROMs.
Could anybody please advise if it's OK for me to update other, a newer and better one hopefully, on my device? If so could you please recommend the newest set of ROMs.
BTW, I'm a newbie and I don't understand what Protocol and ExtROM are, and if I should install them, and if yes where to find them? Can you please explain. Thank you.
Rgds,
PPB

Hello,
Just to update that I've upgraded my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It works much faster and there's now no problem with Wifi anymore.
Device Info:
ROM version: 2.17.7.2 WWE
ROM date: 2/10/06
Radio version: 02.07.10
Protocol version: 413.1.03
ExtROM version: 2.17.7.102
Can anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this? Thanks

Qtek ROM
Where can you get the Qtek ROM for MDA Vario from? I am also on UK t-mobile rom. its just too slow sometimes! but i dont want to damage the unit so which one is better Qtek to Imate KJAM rom and which version is the best one to download and where can I get them?
Thanks I know these are very silly basic questions!

Hello,
I honestly don't know which ROM is better, I just tried Qtek one because I saw it most updated. Luckily it went smoothly for me. If you've got the UK T-Mobile please make sure that you've unlocked its CID beforehand.
You can get the ROM from here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
That's the newest English version.
Hope this helps.
PPB

I'm running the T-Mobile custom rom built on 2.17 and it works very well. As long as you follow directions and not panic if thngs look as if they are going astray, you shoudl be ok. I've upgraded, downgraded and upgraded again about a dozen different times with only one time having it going south on me. I just used the bootloader method of flashing and was abale to get out of trouble. I would use aWizard to to a full rom backup before doing a flash in case you want to downgrade. Over all, I do not know whether it is necessary but I always runb the unlock before the upgrade, even if I did it already. 3 minutes of time but could save your rear end . . . just my 2 cents . . .

Can you use T-Mobile USA rom on a UK Vario (Wizard)?
Hi all,
Just wondering if you can use the T-Mobile USA rom on a UK vario?
It seems the US version (2.17) is a lot newer than the UK version (1.06)

My advice would be to use the latest QTek rom of the desired language.
Make sure you make a backup of the current extROM beforehand.
After the upgrade you can install the backupped cabs you want by hand.
This gets you the most stable situation.
On the wiki there is a brief explanation of the various files in extROM