Does anybody know?
Is there or will be a gps quickfix solution available?
Similar as it is available for the p3300?
Thanks for any information.
yes, It's the same as on the HP hw6915.
GPS Quickfix
Yes and you can set it to auto download the quickfix weekly.
boldie007 said:
Does anybody know?
Is there or will be a gps quickfix solution available?
Similar as it is available for the p3300?
Thanks for any information.
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yep there 's a quick fix and it works fine
About how long does it take to get a fix when data has been downloaded with quickfix?
Yes there is a quick fix and it takes 2-3 minutes
not long
Takes me about 30 seconds...
export800 said:
About how long does it take to get a fix when data has been downloaded with quickfix?
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you guys that own the P4550 .. can you enlighten me on what chipset the GPS is ??
I'm doing research and I find mix listing of specs when it comes to the GPS chipset !!
Thanks.
and how did you managed to get it before official released ??? did they released it earlier in different continents ?? am I right in thinking that there are many versions ??
I know atleast 3 versions due to release ( mainly with no camera/camera/dual cameras ) ... and that's about it !
even saw conflicting info as in the processor chip --->> Samsung vs Qualcomm too.
yesterday it take 10sec to get a fix
After running quick GPS fix on my TyTN II, getting an initial lock only takes about 5 seconds.
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yes, It's the same as on the HP hw6915.
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Actually, I thought the 6915 used the GL chipset;
and for some reason, I was under the impression that the Kaiser did NOT use the GL chipset...? I could be wrong here, though.
mattpark said:
After running quick GPS fix on my TyTN II, getting an initial lock only takes about 5 seconds.
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same here - 5 to 6 seconds
I think "Tracy & Matt" reported that when you use the Quick GPS teh timezone changes ?? Anybody ??
Hi
Yes it does change the time Zone, seems to be a bug in it somewhere.
Regards
Phil
Must be something specific to European timezones -- I'm using a UK device set for US Eastern time, and I don't see the change.
Hi
For me the device is on GMT London time zone and after the quick fix is run the time zone goes an hour ahead for GMT + 1 Prague. Probably some confusion over daylight saving time or the database we connect looks at the IP address from where we connect from to see what time zone we are in, and this data is wrong for us?
Regards
Phil
So far I gather from other sites that quickfix is meant to use info about the future position of satellites to speed up the "look-up" time when GPS is used. Can anyone tell me if quickfix is a program I install on my PPC or is it a setting I adjust in the gps software on the PPC?
Quickfix is a program that comes loaded standard on the TyTn II and yes it loads sat data to the phone to speed up the fix. The download is good for about 6 days before it needs a refresh. I set mine to update with active sync.
Thanks for the reply. Since the OP has been answered and were on the subject of GPS can someone tell me how to get GPS working. In google maps and windows live I get the message that the gps is not responding.
I apologize if this is a very basic question. I don't have my Kaiser yet (waiting for shipment) and I'm not familiar with Quickfix other than what I've read on the forums lurking.
Doesn't the GPS require you to be outside to get a fix? Or is your Kaiser close enough to the window or edge of a building to still get a fix when you run ActiveSync?
RemE said:
Quickfix is a program that comes loaded standard on the TyTn II and yes it loads sat data to the phone to speed up the fix. The download is good for about 6 days before it needs a refresh. I set mine to update with active sync.
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Hello, I have allowed myself to extract of my P3300 the quickGPS and to prepare it for the Trinity, you will already count me that such he/she goes.
Greetings
Thanks.
But this is useless on the Trinity . The Qalcomm GPSone chip isn't compatible with it unfortunitaly.
Yes, the qualcomm chip might be compatible with something else though, gpsonextra advantage. It's the equivalent of quickgps for the sirf gps chips. No software out though, qualcomm just announces that certain chips will be supported.
Yep ... and it didn't work on my trinity Thx anyway !
Hello everybody:
I have installeld the quickgps on my trinity and it seems to work properly. After I installed, I downloaded the file and tested the gps, and I think it fixs faster.
greetings.
Sorry, but no it isn't
It may appear to work, but satellite fixes are so variable anyway, it can be deceptive.
This program is NOT compatible with the Qualcomm chipset
NeilM said:
Sorry, but no it isn't
It may appear to work, but satellite fixes are so variable anyway, it can be deceptive.
This program is NOT compatible with the Qualcomm chipset
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May be or may be not, because after few minutes the signal is stable. For example, I've tested ozi explorer after the implementation of quick gps, and it fixes so quick (quicker than before)... I'm still testing.
Don't forget that once you have obtained a valid fix, if you stay in about the same location, and within 3-4 hours you will still be in the Warm Start zone, which is much quicker anyway, as the Almanac info will not need re-downloading.
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Don't forget that once you have obtained a valid fix, if you stay in about the same location, and within 3-4 hours you will still be in the Warm Start zone, which is much quicker anyway, as the Almanac info will not need re-downloading.
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Yes I agree with you. And I have made the test now (last time I used the gps was last nigth) with ozi explorer and it spent 49 seconds to fix...
Sorry, I didn't say that I was in my room next to the window, but the windows was 1 meter from me.
Can you try going to a totally new location and trying again with QGPS, then yet another location and trying without QGPS?
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Can you try going to a totally new location and trying again with QGPS, then yet another location and trying without QGPS?
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Yes of course and I will report.
Well, yesterday I tested it 10 km far. I did a cold start, using tomtom 6, and it spent 41 seconds to fix. I think it works... I don't need to test it without quickgps, it is clearly faster, do you?
best regards.
Well its certainly worth trying!
However, 10km would be a warm start, not a cold start, depending on how long since you used it previously!
Looks as if it might be worth getting hold of a GPS Utility app, then forcing cold starts with & without QuickGPS.
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However, 10km would be a warm start, not a cold start, depending on how long since you used it previously!
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Last time I used gps was about 24 hours before... Only one remark, the day I tested (at 19:30) that morning I downloaded the file in Qgps utility.
If you don't have installed Qgps, how much time your pda need to fix in tomtom?
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Last time I used gps was about 24 hours before... Only one remark, the day I tested (at 19:30) that morning I downloaded the file in Qgps utility.
If you don't have installed Qgps, how much time your pda need to fix in tomtom?
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It does not work on my trinity. When I execute the quick GPS, it's say unenabled to create empty file.... Is there a work around ?
Best regards
Dave
My Problem Exactly... I tried uninstalling, but still getting the same error.
Anyone know how to get around this or how to get rid of quickGPS?
Thx
Error message
I have the same message "Failed to creat empty document"
Can you help me ?
Otherwise I use visualgps to have faster fix. What is the better solution to have a faster at cold start ?
Thanks for help
While I applaud the persistence with QuickGPS of all of you guys, but I am sorry to say that it's just a waste of time. It won't work out the way that you want.
The variability of GPS signal aquisition and the type of signals it comprises continue to make people think they can get something more out of the system!
Short of having a small background app keeping GPS on all the time, it's all doomed to failure, but we will continue to see folk convincing themselves that it will work. Hopefully someone will get around to programming the GPSOne system for Trinity users!
Super, I still was locking for that.
Does it is possible put put just the .cab file as well here.
anyhow thank you!
I have just updated my ROM to "Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700" and at the same time installed TomTom.
It can take quite a while to pick up a lock the first time the software is booted but if I close and open TomTom without rebooting the phone the second time is much quicker (almost instant). I have just tried rebooting the phone and it goes through the same slow process the first time tomtom is booted and then quick following that. Is this normal behaviour for GPS on the device (not holding GPS info when the phone is rebooted) or is it an issue with the ROM or Radio. If its the radio is their anyone in the UK who can recommend the best radio for battery life and GPS.
Cheers,
Michael
cyberkid2002 said:
I have just updated my ROM to "Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700" and at the same time installed TomTom.
It can take quite a while to pick up a lock the first time the software is booted but if I close and open TomTom without rebooting the phone the second time is much quicker (almost instant). I have just tried rebooting the phone and it goes through the same slow process the first time tomtom is booted and then quick following that. Is this normal behaviour for GPS on the device (not holding GPS info when the phone is rebooted) or is it an issue with the ROM or Radio. If its the radio is their anyone in the UK who can recommend the best radio for battery life and GPS.
Cheers,
Michael
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This is pretty normal for GPS especially on these devices. It takes a while to get the first fix after a reset, but subsequent ones are quicker.
You may be able to speed up this process by using the QuickGPS tool to download cache data of satellite locations.
Also, try and use GPSTest to get the lock first. Many people use the GPSTest application and keep it running in the background as it tends to keep a good lock on things.
Adjust the baud rate with GPStest.
cheers for the responses... i will try the GPSTest thing...
KDKobes: what change does adjusting the baud rate make? quicker to lock?
I'm running the new, stock 6.1 Rom, and the only criticisim I have of it is the really slow initial GPS lock. The first time I use it after a soft reset or reboot, it can take anything in the region of 10-15 minutes, which I really don't think is right - I'm positive the original Rom was better at this. Subsequent fixes are much quicker, but if you find yourself needing the GPS and you happen to have recently rebooted, chance are you'll be well past your destination by the time it picks up, which is not good.
Quick GPS appears to be behaving as it always has - whenever I check it has recent data showing, downloaded through Activesync as normal - but it's almost as if that data's not being used in this Rom.
I should mention I'm seeing this behaviour in both Tom Tom and Live Search... it always does get a lock eventually, so there doesn't appear to be a problem with the GPS itself. Has anyone got any insight into this?
cyberkid2002 said:
cheers for the responses... i will try the GPSTest thing...
KDKobes: what change does adjusting the baud rate make? quicker to lock?
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The baud rate is used by the internal COM port to interface with the GPS controller. It is the same deal like the speed of a modem...2400....4800...9600, etc.
Honestly with the amount of data that a GPS passes (which is not that much) I don't know if it makes a difference if it is set low. However, I always set mine high because faster is better, right so, might as well.
bengalih said:
The baud rate is used by the internal COM port to interface with the GPS controller. It is the same deal like the speed of a modem...2400....4800...9600, etc.
Honestly with the amount of data that a GPS passes (which is not that much) I don't know if it makes a difference if it is set low. However, I always set mine high because faster is better, right so, might as well.
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Where would you even set that though? I played with GPS Tool for a while, but it appeared to forget whatever port setting I used next time it ran anyway, so presumably it only affects that session of GPS Tool, not the system as a whole. In TomTom there's no speed setting for the internal GPS either; it should all be handled by WM itself.
Boinng said:
Where would you even set that though? I played with GPS Tool for a while, but it appeared to forget whatever port setting I used next time it ran anyway, so presumably it only affects that session of GPS Tool, not the system as a whole. In TomTom there's no speed setting for the internal GPS either; it should all be handled by WM itself.
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Yeah, I think that's right... you can set it inside GPSTest.
However, like I stated many people find that GPSTest gets the quickest lock and prefer to either open it first and/or leave it running in the background. I haven't used my GPS that much, but I do find that this works.
It at least allows me to see what is going on with the lock. If I start Google Maps it will either work or not with GPS, but not really show me what's going on. GPSTest will allow me to see if I have a lock or not and then open up my other apps for use.
I just realised, I'm talking about the HTC GPS Tool, while you're talking about GPS Test - which is that, the Chartcross one?
You should try IGO8
cyberkid2002 said:
I have just updated my ROM to "Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700" and at the same time installed TomTom.
It can take quite a while to pick up a lock the first time the software is booted but if I close and open TomTom without rebooting the phone the second time is much quicker (almost instant). I have just tried rebooting the phone and it goes through the same slow process the first time tomtom is booted and then quick following that. Is this normal behaviour for GPS on the device (not holding GPS info when the phone is rebooted) or is it an issue with the ROM or Radio. If its the radio is their anyone in the UK who can recommend the best radio for battery life and GPS.
Cheers,
Michael
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Hello!
I have experienced exactly the same problem as you have with TomTom.
I have both a "Tytn II" and a HTC Advantage (X7500).
When using TomTom on the X7500 the GPS takes time to fix a position, 15-20 min or more is not unusual after a soft reset.
Then when it has fixed the position it is EXTREMLY slow when it comes to calculating the route!
I live in Sweden and I often drive to Germany, and when calculating the route from Sweden to Germany it takes over 3 min to finish!
Then we have the issue with the struggling graphics, (Of course I have been told that TomTom has trouble with VGA displays, and I find that to be very true.) the map is very slow and sometimes it stops completly for a few secounds!
On my Tytn II however the map is not struggling the same way, and it calculates much faster then on the X7500, Why? I dont know!
X7500 is a much faster device so it beats me!
The GPS lock is however almost as slow on the Tytn II as it is on the X7500, no matter if I have used quick GPS to download data or not!
A few weeks ago I stumbled upon a navigation program called IGO8, I decided to try it, and believe me when I say that I will never go back to TomTom again!
First of all the GPS lock is almost instant with IGO8, from a soft reset it finds a lock within maybe 2 min at most! And then it seems that it somehow remembers the position and the next time you start the program it will have a fix in secounds!
Then it calculates much faster, I tryed to calculate the route from Sweden to Germany on my X7500 and it was finishes under 20 secounds! (Compare that to over 3 minutes with TomTom on the same device!)
It supports VGA screens, so the map floats much better on my X7500.
Next thing is that there is more maps for IGO 8 so it covers much more of "mother earth" if you want to navigate in a foreign country!
It also has 3D terrain, and can even show buildings in 3D! (Only works in some places!)
It has a very simple and logical interface that is much easyer to understand then TomTom, and it is skinnable and very customizable!
So if you are serious about having a great navi I would strongly recommend you to try IGO 8! I can promise you will not be dissapointed!
Oh and buy the way, I dont work for IGO either!
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I have problems getting software on my O2 Stellar to recognise the internal gps. I've tried a couple of different programs (TomTom & GPSTuner) and also fiddled around with the com ports in both the software and on the Stellar (using the External gps app in settings) but still no recognition of the internal gps.
I caleed O2 and no one could help, in fact they didn't even know it had internal gps!
I've seen GPSTest mentioned a few times. It's not on my Stellar - where can I get it?
Am I missing something?
Help please!
Thanks
Dave
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I have problems getting software on my O2 Stellar to recognise the internal gps. I've tried a couple of different programs (TomTom & GPSTuner) and also fiddled around with the com ports in both the software and on the Stellar (using the External gps app in settings) but still no recognition of the internal gps.
I caleed O2 and no one could help, in fact they didn't even know it had internal gps!
I've seen GPSTest mentioned a few times. It's not on my Stellar - where can I get it?
Am I missing something?
Help please!
Thanks
Dave
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Get GPSTest here
You can either manually set it to a COM port or have it autoscan. I believe some ROMs identify it as COM3 and others COM4, so probably best to do an autoscan. It might take a few minutes to find it, and then another few to get a lock. But after that it generally starts up and locks within a minute or two (in my experience).
Hi there,
This topic is about my experience of configuring a-gps manually with a French operator. This may help others.
I installed a few day ago the last french official HTC ROM (see here)
My Diamond is SFR branded (French Vodafone), and after upgrading from the native SFR ROM to the HTC one, I felt a slowdown to get a good GPS signal for the apps I use: Googlemaps and iGo8. The signal also seemed less accurate.
I decided to investigate this way.
First of all, some elements that may be obvious for most of you, but reminding them does not hurt:
A-gps is a system that enhances GPS performance, by connecting to an a-gps server. As a matter of fact, this server makes use of cellular network signal to locate you faster. For further informations, see Wikipedia a-gps article.
AFAIK, a-gps is different from Quick GPS (see here) In particular, config values for a-gps and Quick GPS are located in different registry keys on Diamond.
Now let's get deeper into a-gps:
You can, once again AFAIK (and you'll correct me if I'm wrong ), use two kinds of a-gps server:
Your mobile vendor's server (i.e. HTC)
Your operator's server
I remembered that on some phones (at least Nokia N95), you have to define manually your a-gps server when using SFR network.
For Nokia, the problem is that the port used by the vendor's server is blocked by SFR WAP connection.
This is not the case of HTC a-gps server, since using HTC rom does not inhibit a-gps: it only seemed slower to me than with my SFR rom.
Here are the registry parameters for a-gps, on the original HTC ROM:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"ServerIP"="10.1.101.63"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
I guess "10.1.101.63" is the IP address of an HTC's a-gps server (?!)
I then downgraded to native SFR ROM, and here was the same key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerURL"="geoloc2.sfr.fr"
"GPRSConnection"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"Network"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:0000003C
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
As you see, the server is defined with its URL, "geoloc2.sfr.fr" (known as one of SFR's a-gps servers), and some parameters are different.
Of course, you have to replace "WAP SFR GPRS" by the network connection you want to use.
I upgraded to HTC ROM again, and set the operator's rom values.
Now I've got the feeling that it's harder, better, faster, stronger (and more accurate).
By the way, QuickGPS is configured in the following key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS].
Note that, on SFR branded rom, this key does not even exist.
Hope this helps.
I've wondered why Quick GPS seems to replace the A-GPS feature on the diamond. QuickGPS doesn't seem to do a damn thing for me. From cold boot, I can stand in open air for 5 minutes until I even start to get a peek at a couple of satellites. How can we be sure that QuickGPS is even working at all?
I used to own a Nokia N95 that had the A-GPS feature, the GPS inside the N95 was pretty average. But with the A-GPS feature you could at least get a lock in under 10 seconds, every time. As long as you had configured your positioning server, (supl.nokia.com) and you had a data connection, then it was consistently under 10 seconds from cold boot. Without A-GPS it was more like 5 minutes plus, basically what I'm seeing on the diamond.
As people have noticed, using tools like Advanced Config to enable A-GPS breaks the GPS completely. Probably because of the missing settings such as you have outlined above, (I noticed these settings while poking around in the registry recently too). I wonder how we can find out what the server names for other countries are and get this working for eveyone.
Also, the IP address 10.1.101.63 is a private IP address so I guess that explains why it fails when you switch AGPS on, that address will never be contactable, so they must have used it for some kind of internal testing - but if it's working for you (with your new settings) then why did HTC choose to leave it broken for the other ROMS....
Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
I also tested a N95 8Go recently, and I had the same results.
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
Did you give it a try?
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Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
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Yes I have i too, and it connects and downloads data ok. But does it speed up a GPS lock? I don't think it does. I've hard reset and just run TomTom without QuickGPS and then with QuickGPS and I cannot for the life if me see any difference at all. In TomTom Satellite screen, you can see no data. If it was working, you should see all Satellite 'numbers' in their respective little boxes and then the tracking would begin almost immediately. But I'm not seeing this.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
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Many people have said that enabling A-GPS (via advanced config or direct reg edit) makes the GPS stop working completely i.e. never getting a lock. If you have got this working for you, as far as I know, you're one of the first! Lucky you!
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
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No that IP address is within a private non-routable range for internal private networks and cannot be reached from the internet. Read this if you want more info.
I do agree though on the A-GPS being better, and with my experience with Nokia phones A-GPS is excellent. I don't understand what it is that QuickGPS is trying to do, because there is nothing quick about it. I thought it would be similar to A-GPS (in how it actually works) but now I'm confused :/
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
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Now that's the sort of time we all should expect when using an assisted/quick GPS aid to the actual GPS chip. It should be lightning fast. So to me it says QuickGPS is pretty lame, as everyone is using it by default in all ROMS and there are many many people complaining about the GPS not getting a lock at all. So it can't possibly be working properly. And if it is, it still sux.
I'm going to try and replicate those settings you have above on my Diamond and see how it goes. I'll post back shortly.
OK well I've put all those settings in, but still no luck. It is not working. I've been waiting several minutes and still cant even get a fix.
It's not out of the realms of possibility that SFR's A-GPS server can only be used by SFR customers. After all, they assign you your IP address when you connect to the web on your diamond so they could easily lock it down so that random people cannot use it. In fact that would make a lot of sense.
I think we're close, but I guess we need to find a SUPL A-GPS server that is open to the public, maybe? Or certainly at least find out if HTC has one that we can use that is accessible via the internet... Maybe someone else has some ideas?
you can try: "supl.nokia.com" instead of "geoloc2.sfr.fr"
Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!
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Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!
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I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!
I got ip adress of HTC aGPS server!
its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.
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I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!
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Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!
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Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!
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Yep, its all the same issues I'm having, but not just with tomtom, I'm using iGo8 and garmin XT with no success.
This was written by me on another thread complaining about the GPS.
I called HTC support Australia and informed them off its fault with GPS lag and its accuracy, I informed them that over 50% of users are having this issue on the XDA forum, they told me that no fault has been logged and there isn't an issue, It may be time to call up the tech support and make some noise to get this issue resolved. its a pain in the arse and it shouldn't be happening.
I also called up Hong Kong Customer support the other day and they said the exact same thing...... i think.... the chicks English was just deplorable.
I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.
saveferris said:
I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.
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I hope you can get somewhere mate! Good luck!
lowrider_05 said:
its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.
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anyone tried if this really works?
Is IgO 8 working with A-GPS enabled?
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Update/Refresh of GPS data
Maybe a stupid question, but how can I update the a-GPS data or does the device update the data automatically?
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lit2fly said:
anyone tried if this really works?
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Well, it does seem to be some kind of Navigation related server - I am trying now...
Well, it doesn't seem to have made a difference - but I will test some more...
lowrider - where did you find that IP?
What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?
steph90 said:
What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?
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It should be only a few KB send, and then a little more KB received.
It should only happen when the GPS is activated (e.g. you start TomTom) and then the A-GPS would kick in then. It should not transfer any more data unless you lost the GPS signal, then it would assist the GPS in getting a lock again, and therefore transfer another few KB.
got my pro the other day... and I have garmin loaded up, and its not finding a signal so I have spent most of my day reading all posts I can find relating to the GPS, I have used the GPS viewer and it finds the GPS and once it starts I can see it will not acquire my location I could leave it for 15 mins or so and it wont lock on, google maps will not work, nor with garmin, I have tried changing the ports from 4 to 1 and others but nothing seems to work.
does any one else have this issue, and have they over come it if so how i want to use my GPS...
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set your band rate to 9600
still no good.
tried the GPS viewer google maps and Garmin again...
I have similar problem and what I did is to flash new radio. Currently, I am using 1.02.25.28 radio and seems like the GPS works fine now. It can lock on less then 1 minute in one space but the signal strength is vary from low to high quite fast (not stable).
I tried to navigate with this radio and turned out to be better than the original radio shipped with the unit. But, even with this radio, my old Kaiser GPS still performs better. When I use Kaiser, GPS lock in less than 10 seconds in open space.
BTW, the GPS software is Garmin Mobile XT.
Radio ROMS
Check this link out for various Radio ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
And this for flashing details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
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I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
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your explanation doesn't make sense at all
when i go to phone/services there is no such thing as location setting.
it lists my phone services such as call barring, caller Id, etc...
i'm using Chartcross GPS test 1.04 and set my com to 4 baud to 38400 and it is not working. Google Maps says no gps found.
i am on a stock AT&T Fuze rom... just got the phone yesterday
I also installed HTC GPS tool and those symbols and number mean nothing to me.
no real manual on how to use it unless you're technically saavy and have programming background
i also disabled AGPS like it is recommended all over this site.
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
liquidchrome said:
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
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yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
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yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
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Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
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Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
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no i didnt miss it. I have tried that aswell but I guess its what ever works
Hey everyone.
just wondering if someone could post a QuickGPS cab for me. I went to use tomtom today and for whatever reason quickgps was no longer installed in my phone. The only thing I have done on it since I last used it was installed Pointui 2. So I dont know how or why it dissapeared.
I've searched for the past hour for a cab but all I can find is GPStest... which isnt what I need.
Thanks in advance!
Aaron
I found the exe in the windows directory..the shortcut disappeared for some reason so I just made a new one.
Hi Aaron.. could please tell me what quick gps does? Cause the only option i get on my phone is 'download'.. After i download the data.. what next??
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Hi Aaron.. could please tell me what quick gps does? Cause the only option i get on my phone is 'download'.. After i download the data.. what next??
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Basically QuickGPS helps yougeta fix quicker when running one of your gps programs. Ie: Tomtom, Google maps, Garmin, Navigon, etc etc.
Without this program people, including myself, have had radiculous wait times to get locks on the satelites. Up to 20 minutes at times. When I run this program first then launch tomtom I get a lock within 10-30 seconds.
Hope this helps explain some of what it does. I don't know the technical aspects of what it does just.... what it does haha
theres a cab posted in the "ask questions here" sticky thread for anyone else lookin.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Hey everyone.
just wondering if someone could post a QuickGPS cab for me. I went to use tomtom today and for whatever reason quickgps was no longer installed in my phone. The only thing I have done on it since I last used it was installed Pointui 2. So I dont know how or why it dissapeared.
I've searched for the past hour for a cab but all I can find is GPStest... which isnt what I need.
Thanks in advance!
Aaron
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Basically QuickGPS helps yougeta fix quicker when running one of your gps programs. Ie: Tomtom, Google maps, Garmin, Navigon, etc etc.
Without this program people, including myself, have had radiculous wait times to get locks on the satelites. Up to 20 minutes at times. When I run this program first then launch tomtom I get a lock within 10-30 seconds.
Hope this helps explain some of what it does. I don't know the technical aspects of what it does just.... what it does haha
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Sorry if this is a little off topic, but I see a lot of misinformation about this all over the place.
The first post in this thread gives a good explanation.
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/939263/How+Quick+GPS+Works?t=anon
There's a reason there's an expiration date of a week for the ephemeris data: it doesn't change all that quickly. If you're truly finding that you have to download this info every time to get a reasonable TTFF the phone must be dumping this file (which doesn't make any sense, and is probably not the case unless you see in QuickGPS that it doesn't have a countdown from your last DL). The real reason TTFF is so poor on these phones is poor reciever management. Newer radios are far better, and don't require all this "run QuickGPS, run GPSTest" every time nonsense (which I think are placebo effects anyways). Once you've got reasonably recent ephemeris data the only thing that can improve TTFF is the phone knowing where it is, which it determines in one of two ways: A-GPS (where it triangulates a rough position from cell towers) or from last known position. If neither of those things is reasonably close to your real position it will take a long time to get that first fix.