Ok here is my dilema. I am due to renew my T-Mobile contract at the beginning of October. My current phone is the HTC Wizard and I have been looking at the N95 as it has a lot of nice features. However I have recently been told about the kaiser and that its about to be released on T-Mobile in September. Can anyone give me any suggestions what I should do or if anyone knows how much it is likely to cost on TMobile UK?
Thanks
I like Windows Mobile, so my choise is Kaiser
I tried Symbian before, but I dont really like it. Especially application wise.
N95 seems to support only Nokias own GPS soft.
Well, I've got an N95, having just switched to Vodafone and been given one for free. It's my fist S60 phone since the Siemens SX1, and I have to say it's really rather nice. Has become my first choice over the Hermes until my Kaiser is delivered...
I'm using Roadsync for MS Exchange and Route66 for GPS navigation with no problems at all (I've also seen TomTom running perfectly on an N95, so don't worry about the compatibility of GPS software). The only thing I'm really missing is the QWERTY keyboard for the many e-mails I knock out every day. Basically, it's not a phone to go for if you'll be writing lots of text, but apart from that it's hard to fault.
The main advantage of the N95 over my other current phone (the Hermes) is the way that S60 deals with data connections. No need for manual switching between Vodafone's Wap and Web connections in order to use either Vodafone Live! or "anything else" because it's all handled automatically with two simultaneous connections if needed. Something that Windows Mobile certainly can't do as far as I'm aware... And WiFi connections are handled more sensibly (in my opinion) under S60, too.
All that said, S60 isn't as configurable as Windows Mobile, and although S60 may have better games, I'm more interested in productivity from my device, so I'm still eagerly awaiting my Kaiser, at which point my N95 will become my weekend phone....
no competition
im due an upgrade in two weeks. i tried the n95 for two weeks an i believe it to be the most over-rated handset ive seen since the razr.
granted, gps is a nice feature for a phone to have, but everything else is laggy and slow. the camera is average - certainly not as good as the k series from sony ericsson - just try taking a snapshot on a nokia and try not to get irittated by its slowness! video is excellent i have to say but marred by an inability to have the flash on constantly during filming. also the gallery is painfully slow to refresh thumbnails. battery life is terrible for a phone and the menu navigation system is dreadfully long-winded and ill thought out.
i would definitely wait for the kaiser as it has so much more to offer.
I'm struggling to think - Qwerty keyboard aside - of anything more that the Kaiser will actually offer?
Anyway, in reply I'd have to say that GPS is perfectly adequate, but the built in software is pretty dodgy. Remains to be seen whether the Kaiser does any better but I'm assuming it will be pretty similar in practise.
Yep, the camera is definitely slower than my old K800i, but significantly better than any PPC phone I've ever owned or seen. Video is pretty good, but I don't really use video so that's not a big deal for me, and at least the N95 has a flash - I definitely can't see the Kaiser being any better for video or stills.
Generally, I find the phone no more laggy than my Hermes (even after it's WM6 speedup) especially when multitasking. The gallery certainly seems to be no worse than "Pictures and Videos" on my Hermes when it comes to speed, but I only have about 75 pics / videos on the N95 at the moment compared to a couple of hundred on my Hermes.
Battery life isn't good, but I'm getting the same sort of time between charges with my N95 as I do with my Hermes (which is not a long time - about 24 hours).
I didn't particularly like the S60 menus either. The first thing I did was create folders and subfolders all over the place and rearrange virtually every single icon in the phone. After getting used to it though, I find it better in many ways than Windows Mobile - you can at least shift program icons around and have them in any order you want rather than just alphabetical (Probably why there are no pieces of "Launcher" software made for S60 - there's no need for them when it's basically built in to the OS).
I would like to point out that the "Active Standby" screen (or Today screen as we WM users would call it) is utterly useless on the N95. You can't put anything on it except for a row of 6 program shortcuts and a couple of other rows which are all but identical to the default WM setup (Next Appointment & Messages received). Massive mistake by Nokia not allowing custom plugins as I believe they have on their E-Series smartphones.
Anyway, it's all personal preference and you have to go with what suits you better. Kaiser is definitely my number one choice because I use my devices for business and messaging more than games and pictures. However, after a good few years away from Symbian phones I'm very glad that this Nokia fell into my lap - I'd never have thought of paying for one and I've been very pleasantly surprised by the *lack* of limitations that I've found compared to my WM devices.
The qwerty keyboard is quite a 'deal-breaker' really, compared to the squat t9 keypad of the n95. The fact that the difference in size is not all that great sways it for me, and you can tilt the Kaiser too! I certainly believe that the Kaiser is more of 'what computers have become' than the flimsily-built and rather frustrating Nokia N95. I just wish the Kaiser had a VGA screen, then it would be PERFECT.
If the Kaiser has the same camera as the Ameo then it will take superior black and white pictures to the N95 (in my opinion anyway) with greater depth and clarity. The shutter lag on the 3mp HTC cams might be an issue but the response time on the Nokia's camera application is so poor that they're kind of on a level really. Also 5mp vs 3mp is rather an insignificant comparison considering most of us will rarely blow our pictures up above 7" by 4".
I will concede that the N95 camera is better at night.
There are a ton more applications for windows mobile including a huge array of GPS applications (an advanced windows live search, tomtom, copilot etc), a free media player -TCPMP- which can play most video types and an integrated Remote Desktop which is superb.
It's touch screen so it feels more 'hands on'. This really shows itself when you're browsing the net. Despite the cute pointer on the N95's browser it still feels a little rigid and limited.
Hot-swappable sim slot - suprisingly handy if you're stuck on contract with someone other than t-mobile and want to take advantage of T-Mobile's quid a day PAYG internet service without taking your phone apart.
As regards the menu system - well I don't know which wm6 ROM you were using but mine on my TyTn was like **** off a shovel. INFINITELY faster than nokia's sllloooooowwww and overly-snazzy gallery facility, and snappier in menus. Since the Kaiser is so much higher spec we can expect lightning fast menu transitions.
My Nokia was on T-Mobile, though I also tested a friend's on Orange. After installing a number of applications we both found that the N95 would restart after heavy use with more than a few applications running in the background.
So there we have my reasons for choosing the Kaiser over an N95.
Oh and another, shallower reason for owning the Kaiser.....
It's all shiny and lovely.
I want one and i want one NOW!
wait.......tmobile is getting the kaiser? US tombile? if this is true than my day has just been made
AT&T is getting the US Kaiser.......not tmob
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I like how customizable Windows Mobile is. I got my Hermes last year and in these short 10 months, my phone has transformed so much, from the original WM5, then to the Elf LSVW WM6, then to the various Black ROMs. I feel that my phone isn't 10 months old. It is very new and current. Same thing can't be said about Symbian phones or others.
So my next phone decision is easy. It would be a Windows Mobile phone. Only need to think about which one. For now, Kaiser would be the best out there.
Qwerty is most definitely a deal breaker for me too. That's why the Kaiser is going to be my main phone.
I've never taken a single black and white photo in my life, so I couldn't possibly comment on that specific aspect, but if you think that the Athena's camera is better than the N95, then I won't argue... My opinion is different, but there you go.
Yes, a hot-swappable sim slot may well come in handy. I have no use for it personally, but I can appreciate that someone might.
Apart from that, everything else falls into the category of S60 vs WM. It's a very old arguement. I'm very definitely in the Windows camp because of the tasks I use my devices for, but S60 will be a better choice for others.
The N95 shows how far S60 has come, but it was never designed to compete with WM PPC Phones - that's what S80 and UIQ have been trying to do (badly). I'm very happy with the N95, but for me it'll never replace a PPC phone.
Probably a better comparison with the WM6 Kaiser would be the S60 Nokia E90. The Kaiser still comes out on top for me, but again - it depends what features you want / need, doesn't it?
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Probably a better comparison with the WM6 Kaiser would be the S60 Nokia E90. The Kaiser still comes out on top for me, but again - it depends what features you want / need, doesn't it?
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I would definitely pick the E90 before the Kaiser, with the display being the deciding feature.
I have been a total MS man too, for the past few years. Never thought I should own a S60 device, but the N95 made me change my mind. I have previously owned the original SPV, the HTC Typhoon, the HTC Magician and the Mio A701.
A few months back I found it was the right time to get rid of the A701 but couldn't find any MS device I really wanted. Especially the camera on the MS phones I have tried have always been so bad, that they couldn't be used for anything but MMS. So I took a closer look at the Nokia N95...
After about a month of considering, I finally bought the N95, making it my first Nokia in 5 years. I must say I am very impressed by the hardware. The camera is so good, that I no longer bring my Sony digicam on normal road trips aso, but only for those special occasions.
One very important thing before testing the Nokia N95 is to make sure it is running the latest firmware, called 12.0.0.013. If you run the old v11, you are really not testing the N95 but just an old beta product, which should never have been in stores.
The TV out feature is absolutely brilliant. I have used it while on vacation to stream live tv feeds of Tour de France from the N95 straight into a small 20" tv, which was very nice. But when using it to show video clips and pictures to friends and family on their own tv, the N95 really shines with this high quality tv output. You can even use it for movies, with Dolby Pro-Logic sound through any surround amp.
The same cable you use for TV out can also be used to plug you N95 into a standard amplifier, allowing for very nice quality playback of your MP3s. Or how about plugging it into the LCD's on the backseat of your car, so the kids can follow the route of the GPS program?
The TV/audio out is a very simple, yet effective feature. I think this is the thing I would miss the most, if I decide to replace the N95 with the Kaiser.
I don't do a lot of typing on my mobile device, so I personally don't need the qwerty keyboard, although it would be nice to have. Actually the T9 of the N95 suits me fine, because it enables me to write short messages while on the go. Absolutely impossible on the A701 that only had the onscreen keyboard, and using a qwerty on the street is a bit too nerdy, even for me
Running GPS on the N95 is fine, after upgrading to the latest firmware. Before it took forever to get a fix, but after A-GPS has been introduced in the latest ROM, a fix is available in 10 seconds. TomTom of course haven't heard of the N95, once again proving they are the slowest software manufacturer on the planet. But you can run Google maps, Route 66, Navigon, Copilot and Nokias own Maps, to name but a few.
The built in Real Player run most formats, but of course you can also install TCPMP which has been available since feb06. The commercial version The Core Player is in the final beta stages right now. Papyrus, the calendar app known from MS Smartphones, also runs on N95, for those of you who are hooked on the Pocket Informant style.
Regarding speed I think the N95 is at least comparable to the Mio A701's WM5 on the Intel 520MHz cpu. Besides, it has a graphics cpu (gpu), making it almost unbeatable in 3D speed. Sweet, considering the 3D style of several upcoming GPS proggies. I have no idea why some would call it slow, unless they have been running the old firmware. Boot time is 30 seconds, or about 50% the time of my A701.
Here are some of my personal pro's and con's of the N95:
Pro:
1. TV-out
2. Very easy to switch between connections (HSDPA, WLAN, BT, IrDA, the N95 have them all)
3. Extremely nice camera for a phone, albeit a bit slow
4. Standard 3.5mm ear plug connector
5. Built in radio (can be used for TMC)
6. A-GPS extremely fast
7. Small(ish) size
Con:
1. TomTom still doesn't run on internal GPS antenna
2. Amount of 3. party applications very low, compared to PPC. Example: No app to configure the hardware keys (huge con)
3. Symbian forums are of a lower quality than those of PPCs. Kids arguing and name calling aso. Not many user developed apps or deep insight from a S60 forum
4. Battery life is 2-3 days if used as a standard phone. Use it 1-2 hours during the day with the screen on = don't expect it to last until bed time
5. Low on memory. Expect less than 20MBs of RAM at boot time. How can Nokia do this in the year 2007?
6. Today screen plugins are not allowed by Nokia (why?). You get date/time, a list of MRU's, your calendar and a wifi scanner. That's it!
(Notice that only 2 out of 6 points are hardware related)
Overall I am very happy about the N95. Weird... I never thought I would say that about a Nokia, or a S60 model Not sure I wanna swap it for the Kaiser, because I would miss the camera and the TV out very much indeed. No third device is of any interest to me.
Conclusion:
If you are torn between N95 and Kaiser, I would say it depends on your daily needs.
A. Input style is a huge difference, so if you type much, the choice is simple.
B. How many apps do you run each day? Low number = not much reason to go for the more advanced Windows Mobile OS.
C. How much does your usage differ from the average user? If much, then you may not be able to find what you are looking for on the S60 platform.
I have always considered S60 a 'functionally challenged' version of the PPC's and I still do, but if you don't use the extra options of the PPC, the N95 may be the better option.
I have a Hermes personally, but my best friend owns an N95 and I have a Test Kaiser to play with right now and it's a pretty great phone. It feels more phone-like than the Hermes and it is definately slimmer and the keyboard tilt is a nice feature. As future ROMs become available for it as far as the biotouch or TouchFLO interface, I think the Kaiser will be a serious iPhone competitor. If you love a no-hastle multimedia interface, go for the Nokia. If you like expandability and touchscreen and rely on Exchange for mail, I'd go with the HTC.
I think I agree with everything HBK has said. Although there is a patch to allow TomTom to run with the N95's internal GPS.
I never used the old firmware, because as soon as I received my N95, I altered the product code with Nemesis and reflashed it with the latest Nokia unbranded firmware (mainly to get rid of all the garish operator themes).
I think that the first thing everyone does with a new smartphone should be to update the firmware, but maybe that is why some N95's are running slowly?
My brother-in-law works for Nokia and has had a prototype N95 since late last year. (At the time I have to admit to being totally uninterested when he showed me his new toy. I dismissed it as "just another nasty Nokia"). He's never reflashed the thing, and hates it because it's so slow and nothing works. I've tried to tell him to update it, but never has.
As HBK says, it depends what you want your device for. I think gooshy needs to think about whether he'd rather have a keyboard and the best productivity software, or a phone with better games software and a better camera?
Unfortunately there isn't a N95 patch for TT. A fraudster with a company named gpsmidlands (beware!) did his best to make us believe such a patch exsisted, but no. He got busted two days ago by some clever guys. It was only a scam to attract attention to his site. He used a bunch of nicks to promote his views and even after being busted, the mods have done nothing to stop him. I believe he has close to 10 nicks right now...
You can read the thread here http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62954. That will also show you the quality of this site, compared to what is available for the S60 series. After reading that thread, you will agree with item #3 on my 'con' list, I am quite sure
The N95 runs Exchange mail quite nice too.
I've got a Hermes and N95, which I bought for my fiancee when she dropped her SE W850i into a bucket of water
It's sleek and nice, and if I needed a phone rather than a "real thing" I would sell my Vario II and buy another one for me. But even when I tried TT6 with a Bluetooth receiver it wasn't that smooth as on Vario II. The battery drainage is also a problem. The only thing that I perceive as better is that in my area it keeps 3G signal better than Hermes, and it's got far better camera (pic are really good outside, but when you take them inside eg. museum with limited light, it's no match for a normal camera).
I think they are both good phones but I would go for the phone with Windows Mobile at the end of the day because I like that there is more software available and the fact that there are a lot of developers tweaking and improving the operating systems for the rest of us (which is much appreciated )
The N95 looks prettier and is more compact, plus has a great camera but the touch screen, keyboard and operating system of the Kaiser wins everytime for me.
I guess it very much depends what you need and expect from your phone, for a lot of people a standard compact phone that just does texts, makes calls and looks pretty is all they need so something like the Razr or SE's would be fine, and for others they need a full mini office which is where the Kaiser is in its element.
One more vote for Kaiser!!!
I have N95 (since April 07) and Kaiser (for 2 days) and to be honest I still can't decide
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hi all, im sure theres plenty of these but hey
I am using an O2 XDA Exec, as the 1st PDA i have ever had, im very pleased with it, i use it for quick surfing the net, viewing emails and sending the out, and when im ever flying, always slip the odd film on for its really nice display
Im using the beautiful windows vista theme
and overall, i couldnt want better
How bout you?
exec, but just because i have to. it is the only pda with 3g that i like
ppc-6700, my first windows mobile phone... i always had Palm based phones... treo 300 treo 650, i hated the way the Palm OS worked, so i bought a 6700, worth every penny.
I'm using the Xda Orbit, a beautiful balance of style, function and compactness that i am presently using to post to this threat whilst listening to slay radio via wifi... can't ask much more than that!
My only gripe is the lack of a hard keyboard which makes it painful to type on, but in this size class you can't have everything.
I thought the exec was a little flimsy and chunky, but now the Orbit has rekindled my love for PDAs and I find myself wanting a bigger screen and hard keyboard so I can really use it for browsing/posting/msn... are bluetooth keyboards any good?
Before this I had a Tapwave Zodiac, and before that a Compaq Aero 15xx, something with WM6, a VGA screen and a full keyboard would be heaven- too bad the Hpc form factor was ditched!
So what if I don't use an XDA?
OK as briefly as I can:
I currently use an FSC LOOX 720 - for the last 2 years at least (I lost count). Yes it is NOT a phone. I don't even have a 3G phone, I still use my old SE T610 (great phone btw).
I am in technology, I have owned quite a few PDA before that one and I have used almost all known brands and models.
So why with LOOX 720 still?
Because since I got it, I haven't found a SINGLE PDA able to make me part with 720. The single competitor at the time was Dell X50v/51v which I still think was a great PDA but my priorities on what I thought was better for me made me choose my 720 over it and never thought I made the wrong choice. HP 4700 (or ANY HP for that matter - and I have owned HP devices, but never again) was not even close those two guys.
Anyway, since my next PDA should be at least what 720 is AND be a phone and most probably a GPS (I am a heavy GPS user AND hate BT GPS*) - if I had to switch I should be able to have LESS devices with me all the time (now I have with me ALL the time, my PDA, my phone and my CF GPS). So my choices were limited (erm... none).
When Universal was about to be released, I was almost in love with it. It seemed to be close enough. Then it got released and I... erm... used a friend as a guinea-pig. Then I tested and used it thoroughly. It was NEVER NEVER close to what I thought it would be (in fact sorry, but I believe it sucks). OK, this was partly to the initial implementation of WM5 on that device, maybe it is better now on that front, but I am not looking back.
Not to make this post much longer, not many devices made me think. Some I liked but they had RECTANGLE 240x240 (!!!!!!!!!!) screen which is WAY to much to give up; I mean see a map in 480x640 (300Kp) and see a map in 240x240 (57Kp!), plus of course that MOST things I like do not work at all in 240x240.
Only recently HTC made me think again.
First came Hermes. Nice, not bad. I would need a BT GPS though and I was not sure the things I gain were more than the things I loose (like VGA).
Then I was reading about Trinity. There were plans for GPS in it. Then it came WITHOUT GPS. So my thoughts were "why get a Hermes without keyboard?" and back at Hermes (but not too hot in my mind).
Then came the plans (not by HTC) for XDA Flame (btw shouldn't Flame be in this board? IT WILL BE an XDA won't it?). I am still in love with this device. If it had GPS, I would have already arranged an import somehow and prepay it (please please give us the surprise we want).
Then came the beta of Trinity WITH GPS! Now Trinity is again in my mind. In a different place than Flame (the ULTIMATE PDA in my mind).
So my plan? I will give the GPS testing another month if it indeed is ok (and maybe more GPS enabled ROMs are released), I will jump boat and have a single device in my pocket. Trinity.
But Flame (as I love PocketPC platform), is not out of the picture. Since Trinity will take 720 out of my pocket and stay in my house (I will still use it, when you use VGA you never go back), Flame MAY take the place of my 720 in that position.
* ...about GPS and BT GPS. I have BT GPS and CF GPS (and stand alone GPS); in fact more than one of those. I have seen myself using the CF GPS 100 times out of 100. Even though it sticks to the top of my PDA (when I attach it), I prefer it MUCH than having to hold (or take care to stick somewhere) one more device, take care of the power of one more device etc. To me it worked MUCH better with the CF, when on foot, when on the car and when on my motorcycle. In fact on my motorcycle I don't even need something to hold the PDA in place, because my Piel Frama wraps nicely around the handlebar and puts it in a nice position for the GPS to work and me see the screen.
My main device is an SPV M5000 (HTC Universal) upgraded with WM6 which is the first device to meet my needs.
Prev had a XDA2i but found the lack of keyboard & WM5 upgrade really frustrating as one of the reasons that I wanted a PDA was for mobile e-mail.
Exec is close to ideal with Bluetooth stereo; 3G connection; reasonable keyboard and VGA screen.
With the beta versions of crossbow available the VGA screen is coming into its own thanks to Hi Res mode in PIE and the excellent Remote Desktop Mobile.
Music, Video, mobile messaging and remote server management. I've finally got a device that can meet my needs and it even works as a phone
Dopod 838 pro. Because:
Pros....
- Its loud, and I work in a noisy environment and can't always here ringing.
- 3g lets me use data plans that are cheaper than gprs and the speed is fast.
- The screen has a good range of brightness control.
- HTC are more reliable than the competition IMO. This device has not crashed on me yet.
- On contract it was cheap and my old contract was finished anyway.
- It came with a lot of software (that I had to remove to free memory).
- The wifi works with no problems.
Cons....
- Micro SD really sucks.
- USB jack, and it is over the stylus hole making it awkward to use.
- I actually do not like or want (any) hard keyboard.
- The picture viewer in my XDA mini is much better.
- I like big screens.
- too many buttons.
This device gives me freedom to entertain myself wherever I am. Today I listened to some music, read a document, listened to two podcasts, checked out XDA developers and boingboing, used the phone. In fact I used the phone at the same time as being online which was not possible with some other devices I have had.
I currently have two devices...
Apache (PPC-6700)
This is my main phone and MP3 player, like the keyboard great for texting seems a lot faster now that I don't as much crap on it...lol
Dell Axim X51v
Only just got this last month and love it, it is now my main PDA for all Diary and Contacts, Finance, eBooks, Internet, Skype, Photo's....
I have had the following PDA's... HP iPaq RZ1710 / HTC Harrier (PPC-6600) had two of these (long story)
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Jace
SX66 (Blue Angel), because:
* 3.5+" screen -- I don't like small-screen phones. Size is just as important as resolution.
* 128 MB RAM
* 400 MHz CPU
* Most phone cameras are mediocre anyway, and my workplace bans cameras (but it's not strictly enforced -- if you don't use your cameraphone it's okay).
* Didn't like Universal because it was too thick and heavy (it's two pieces really), and OS/hardware was too slow (even with JJ ROM).
Looking forward to the Flame (non-HTC?) and/or Athena as possible replacements.
I like the Flame because it has large screen, VGA out, 3G, EDGE, and has the same portrait orientation. I don't mind the lack of QWERTY because I use either soft keyboard, or Stowaway BT keyboard. I rarely use my SX66's QWERTY.
Athena has more storage and even larger screen, and may take the place of a laptop, but doesn't have the "rounded" portrait shape I like in the BA, Magician, etc.
Wizard.
- I'm poor. the cheapest I can find in UK ebay (other than Charmer)
- my dad wanted a PDA phone, so I upgrade (no point having two identical phones) and give him the Charmer
- Wifi is good, under utilized, but good.
- I'm a ex-Palm user, I don't need keyboard, but not bad having one.
- normal non-smart phone PIM is not good enough for me
- I don't like massively sized phone
I get a lot of grief from my coworkers for using a Prophet.
Why? Because in our line of work we get to see and play with many toys.
Still I love the little bugger.
BT 2.0 (A2DP patch), WiFi G, 2MP camera, no bigger than regular phone, what else could you ask for?
So the processor is a 200MHz OMAP but it does the job.
I find that built in keyboard just adds unnecessary bulk. If anything ASUS got the right idea with P525 - PPC with phone pad.
In fact if that device had 3G + GPS it would be the ultimate phone in my opinion.
wizard
It was the best and cheapest ppc phone available when I bought it. No 3g where I live (or i'd got a uni) and it's my first ppc so I didn't know any better
Hermes - it's brilliant and I use the keyboard quite a bit.
Previous was Prophet (still have it) and before that I had a Magician.
The Hermes has been the best so far for me.
Well I have had about 5 other PPCs and the Hermes is the best I have ever used. It has a great keyboard and because in Australia about 97% of people have UMTS and you normally you get 1.5Mbs – 2Mbs download speeds you can have 100 e-mails come in and it only takes about 30 seconds.
Hi,
I want to get an idea how reliable the Kaiser is? I'm considering moving from a Blackberry. Does it crash/lock up?
Once a day?
Once a week?
Monthly?
Never?
How good is it in daily use for quickly making calls, adding entries to the calendar and sending/reading emails?
Thanks for any help.
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With the right rom and enough patience you'll be satisfied my young padawan.
It's not the most reliable phone on the market but it's still bleeding-edge which for me personally covers up its flaws.
Can 't decide for you though.
I use mine everyday. Just make sure you have a car charger/ desktop chargers at work if you use the data and GPS on the regular.
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I use mine everyday. Just make sure you have a car charger/ desktop chargers at work if you use the data and GPS on the regular.
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I am using Dutty's #7 RTM ROM with Blackberry connect (150+ messages/day) and I never had to reboot the device. I migrated over from a BB8300 Curve and this is just as reliable.
you know the saying about Death, the Kaiser, and taxes ?
I actually migrated from a Blackberry Curve, here are some of the items that may be an issue:
- I get a lockup about every couple of days. However I use all kinds of programs and Blackberry connect, so who knows what is causing the problems. A soft-reset fixes all.
- It's HUGE, I mean REALLY thick. You can toss a curve in your pocket and pretty much forget about it, not this thing. You'll be using your jacket pockets more or a belt pouch. Forget jean pockets, you'll look like you have a 'woody' all the time.
- One handed typing is impossible, forget chatting when you only have one hand free. Really big downside here.
- Keyboard is very wide, cannot fly around like you can thumb typing on a blackberry full keyboard device. Takes some getting used to but I still can't type as fast as on a BB device. May change with practice.
- BlackBerry client is a pain in the ass, it forces you to change your APN to blackberry thereby disconnecting you from your carriers normal connection. Hence when you want to login to Windows Live or other items, it may suspent the blackberry connection or you will be forced to manually suspend the blackberry services. Otherwise it works pretty good. I suspect there may be a way around a bit of this but simply haven't had the time to research.
- Camera is totally useless. As you will read, there is a 3D driver issue with this phone. The curve camera was perfect and allowed for quick shots without any issues. This camera is incredibly slow and prone to blurring. Suspect this may get fixed with the 3D driver. If your taking still shots of a item that is NOT moving, you'll be ok however.
- Apps are slower to start than on a BB but you get used to it.
- Battery life is terrible, get a car charger and plug it in constantly to keep it up.
- Garmin Mobile XT is awesome and not subscription based like Garmin for the Blackberry. Tomtom is also good, I just prefer Garmin.
- Screen is good, nice and bright, no complaints here.
- Web browser is better than any BB device but certainly nothing like an iPhone/iPod touch, that browser rules.
It's a different phone entirely from a BB so if your used to Microsoft headaches and their way of doing things, you'll be fine. If your a ex S60 symbian guy (like I am) or just expect a phone to "work", you might be disappointed. I nearly took it back 3 times during the first week I had it but I'm getting more used to it now.
You'll also find things are heavily stylus based which can be a pain when your one-handed. The touch-Flo iPhone features are useless, too slow and just not as intuitive as the iPhone/iPod touch. That may also be something that can be tweaked but haven't gotten around to it (besides, it should just "work", like an iPhone/iPod touch does).
However the ability to run all that software out there and things like Remote Desktop and a really nice built-in GPS does have it's benefits.
One thing I wish is that someone would release an on-screen keyboard that works similar to the iPhone/iPod Touch so we don't always have to open the slider which would allow one-handed typing.
All in all, I'm gonna keep it, you just have to start reading alot and getting into boards like these to solve all the issues that you may find.
Cheers
Many thanks for the replies guys. Any more takers?
Thanks
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After about 6 weeks of ownership, I've found my AT&T Tilt to be very reliable. One reboot only during that time, after an odd laptop tethering experience. I'm not running much third party stuff, no registry edits, etc. I have installed Google Maps and OperaMini with good results. Battery life is shorter than my old "dumb" phone, but I expected that. I have no problem with this being my primary cell phone. I prefer Verizon's network, but mostly because AT&T's 3G seems a little less pervasive. No problems with phone service.
I am using Dutty final 7b touch flo. I is amazing. I have not had to reset since I put it on and 7 before that same thing. The only reseting for me has been new roms. lol
I tried Q 1. It was not for me. It was a good rom but I like all the extras in Dutty. PPL were claiming faster speeds, I have found that Duttys is faster for me on my device.
I love the BT voice dial through my Jawbone headset.
HTC Home is great.
I run my own mail server (Kerio) and the push with activesync is 100%
I would say I use the camera the least.
I do not put many programs on.
Pocket informant
TomTom full
MS voice dial
World mate - a must for travelers. The pro version with the real time flights is amazing.
and the dutty programs
Hope this helps. I would say this is by far the best phone I have ever used.
Had a hermes (Tytn) Wizard (Mini S), Magician (Jam), Blue Angel, Treo 600. 650 750v,
This is by far the best for me. I love it. I have also had the least amount of issues with this one. So far I have had 1. The newest MS bt voice command will not go through the headset. I have to use the previous.
O well 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% perfect.
I'm running a Orange branded Kaiser but with orange stuff removed and HTC stuff added. I use it every day for e-mails, Calls, Web & TomTom Nav. The only time I soft reset is after installing somink or regedit.
Most reliable Windows Mobile device i have used so far and would defo recommend it!
For quick typing i would recommend "TouchPal" for one handed quick use!
MM
PS I also use it for a wireless iTunes remote with Apple Airport Express!
im on my 2nd tilt so far, love the phone but the build seams a bit flimsy, the first one the usb connector broke off and the one i have now the send button is sticking on, could just be my stupid luck, and i have had zero problems exchanging the phone, running it in stock form other than kaiser tweak and opera mini, tomtom 6. very stable even around all the magnetic interference from my welders and plasma cutters,
Slightly off topic (sorry) but what the hell do you do tjenus?!
And yes i run Kaiser Tweak , great Tool!
MM
i run a fab shop in Vancouver wa. and a offroad shop in Kelso wa. we have some welders that put out more than a 1000 amps at full load, and plasma machines that can cut 6" plate steel clean in half, my main job is at the fab shop in vancouver, we rebuilt pneumatic trailers and tanker trailers, update them to air ride and antilock with stability control, its a lot cheaper than buying new one, we mostly haul food grade material in bulk, 40 to 65 thousand pounds at a time, for the last couple of years we have hauled 80% of the bulk flower on the west coast, the shop in Kelso is my personal adventure for fun and stress relief, i do a lot of v8 swaps and solid axle swaps on Toyota and Chevys with ifs front suspensions, a lot of fuel injection and propane conversions, and build some tube frame buggys now and then, im a rookie when it comes to modification to my pda or cell phone so i lurk around here for some good advice, a lot of thing we put on the rigs now a day can be adjusted through a pda or laptop, so i find myself carrying them more than ever, but coming from a non tech background i find myself a little disappointed on my knowledge of how to adjust my phone to suet my needs so hear i am, buy the way thanks to everyone this is a great board
I've had mine for about 3 weeks and absolutely love it. By far, it is the best PPC, as well as the best HTC device I have ever owned starting off with the Wizard.The Touchflo still has a ways to go, especially after using the iphone for awhile, but I don't use it or miss it on this phone. I've had no crashes and have been using the original HTC ROM. I use a lot of third party apps and really enjoy the additional ram and the additional storage space on the device. The build quality on my phone is excellent and it has no squeaks or looseness whatsoever. It's a little heavy, and carrying it in your pocket does give you the appearance of being "hung"...but I'm used to that
I am a SPV M3100 (Tytn 1) owner at the moment running Schap's 4.30 Full ROM and the handset runs very well.
On Monday I am out of contract and can either upgrade to the Tytn2 with Orange free of charge or move to T-Mobile and their version for practically nothing (Orange or T-Mobile will be dependent on Orange offering me a decent data package instead of 30Mb for £8).
My main question is really, is it worth upgrading from a Tytn1 to a Tytn2?
On paper it seems to (camera/rom & ram/gps/tilt screen/thinner), but I been scanning through some articles and posts and lots of driver problems have been mentioned? Whats going on with this?
I saw an iPhone the other night and was very impressed with the interface but it lacks 3G/HSDPA and the camera is 2MP and doesnt do video and and and, not to mention having to shell out £269 and an 18 monther on the contract.
Whats the HTC Touch Cruise like and do any UK networks sell it yet?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts...
Will shortly be in same position so am interested in any responses.
I don't see Orange coming up with a decent data plan so I expect to have to leave them for Vodafone/O2 (Tmobile have a reception blackspot just about over my house)
Will probably upgrade so that I can reduce the time to the next upgrade if you see what I mean -not sure I see anything out there in the V near future to make the Kaiser obsolete.
Re Iphone - yeah looked at it but I need the hardware keyboard and have become a bit of a flashaholic etc.
That and I will get the Kaiser free. Don't like the excessive Apple control over everything.
I am with Orange and pretty annoyed myself... I think I'd be leaving too
Well O2 and Vodafone's dataplans are as bad as Orange's. (Voda unlimited = 120mb cap).
Orange did have a Orange World Unlimited package for £8 a month which gave you a gig of use a month which would be enough for me.
Can't really help in regards to whether it's worth the upgrade, as I've never used a TyTN I before, however, in regards to video driver issues, this seems to be hit and miss.
My TyTN II has never had any problems playing video's or games, and for the record, to play my video files I use Kingdia Video Converter to convert to avi, then use Ashampoo Movie Shrink and burn to compress file to QVGA (small file size, great quality). I then use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin to play them.
Not sure if it's because mine is UK bought with Original HTC ROM, but I don't mind as long as it works
Question really is....what do you want / need your phone to do?
I came to the Kaiser (o2 Stellar) from the HTC Universal (o2 XDA Exec) a month ago. I do miss the bigger screen and keyboard of the Uni. Apart from that the Kaiser is better in every way. So much nicer not having to soft reset every other day cos I'm running out of RAM (I have yet to soft reset the Kaiser for any other reason than installing software). So much nicer not having to juggle where I install stuff, it just all goes onto the device in the huge memory available (no sarcasm, after getting by on 30MB, suddenly having nearly 100MB to play with is huge!)
Camera, its a PDA not a SonyEricsson. I was hoping for better pics with a 3MP camera on board but it's no replacement for a real camera. It will do if you have nothing else, and I doubt you'd be disappointed with the results as I suspect the Tytn I camera is no better than the Uni's.
I suppose I do miss the flash on the camera, mainly cos it was a handy torch. I did miss the IR port, but got off my butt and set-up the BT on my PC and now use that instead for file transfers when I don't want to plug the sync lead in.
I have used the Kaiser with a SonyEricsson HBH-100 BT handsfree, it works fine. I also use a SonyEricsson MBR-100 BT thingy to connect to my car stereo and home audio system. Likewise this works perfectly. Finally I have a Nokia 610 car-kit and it connects to that via BTSAP, no problems. All of it straight out of the box, no patches, updates or hot-fixes. BT driver issues? Not in my experience. Only thing that doesn't work with the phone is my older HBH-10 headset. It is about 10yrs old, and is probably just too old to be compatible.
Video? I converted loads of videos years ago to wmv files to use with a HP Ipaq 5450. They play just fine, little jumpy, but this is due to the compression (25mb for 45 mins of video) rather than the device itself, they are jumpy on my laptop too.
Audio? Built in loudspeaker is poor. But what do you expect from something that small that was designed (I guess) for voice, not music. MP3's play well, and when connected to headphones or an external sound system, its great! I bet the type of people that can hear the difference (and care about it) between 192kbs and 320kbs encoding will argue the toss...
GPS. IMHO, no problems. Used it with several apps, gets a fix quickly, holds onto the signal well and is accurate enough. Bench testing against my Garmin standalone GPS (Kaiser plonked on the dash, Garmin with an external roof mounted antenna) both get a good signal and the tracklogs more or less match, good enough for sat-nav anyway (yes the Garmin is more accurate and gets stronger reception but it does have that powered, amplified roof antenna to help it remember! The Kaiser has never failed to get a fix)
WiFi and other data (GPRS, 3G, HSDPA etc) works well. I have the Opera Mini browser as well as PIE. No problems surfing the net, checking email, using MSN or Skype.
Just have a look at the threads in this forum, how many are from newbies asking for help, or moaning something doesn't work when they haven't tried to fix it, or just plain don't know what they are doing?! I'm not saying the Kaiser doesn't have issues for some people, but seriously, if you can get the Kaiser for little or nothing, just upgrade already and if it's really not to your liking stick it on Ebay and make a few hundred! I have a collection of old phones and PDA's so I don't have to use the Kaiser. If it sucked, I would have gone back to my Uni in a heartbeat. The only time I don't use it now is if I'm going out and want a phone with me I don't mind loosing or breaking.
Hope that helps?
It depends what you want out of a phone. My comparisons are between my Vodafone 1605 (unlocked Hermes) and my HTC TyTN II (unlocked Kaiser).
Camera: Useable but crap. Needs one of the cooked roms and cab update to get any real use from it.
Camera Flash: Missing on Kaiser. I used to use this a lot as a torch when taking instrument reaings outside in the dark.
Wifi: My Kaiser is better.
GPS: TomTom is brilliant and sold the Kaiser to me.
Video: Mine seems ok but I'm not a heavy user. Many people seem to have driver problems so I assume they use video more than me - also, I don't use streaming video so I can't comment - this may also be where all the video driver problems are.
Tilting Screen: A bit of a gimmick for normal use, but ok for watching a movie on a plane.
Speed: With Dutty's ROMs my Kaiser feels faster but this may just be imagined.
Memory: I'm a heavy user of space. I have 51 add on programs including converters, dictionaries and translators etc. Kaiser definately better.
All in all I'm glad I upgraded to the Kaisr, but despite that I haven't got the heart to get rid of my Hermes yet...
I will seriously miss the flash, especially with the camera.
And my Hermes does everything I need it to do right now, but things like more ROM/RAM, better camera (in MP), etc would be nice. But I dont fancy wasting an upgrade. (UK people will know what I mean by that).
My vodafone 1605 is a TyTN 1 and I upgraded to a TyTN 2. In most areas I don't think that there is much improvement with the new phone.
If you're happy with the TyTN 1 I wouldn't bother yet unless GPS becomes a real necessity, of unless you're a gadget freak who needs the latest and greatest. Maybe you should wait a while and then when you become less happy with your TyTN look at upgrading then - it won't be too long before the Kaiser comes down in price or there are newer versions available.
Well money isn't really a factor. In the UK we can upgrade our phone at the end of the contract term, normally for free. If I don't upgrade then I will just be wasting an opportunity.
That is my thought exactly. I think it will be a year at least before anything fantasticaly better comes out so then allowing time for initial bugs to be worked out, I think I will upgrade to the Kaiser so when contract ends in 18 months it should be about time for the next big thing.
Incidentally, I do have the 1gb Orange data bundle but it expires sson and cannotbe renewed.
120mb or 200 on O2 should do me quite well - 30mb however is just too little.
I upgraded from the Hermes to the Kaiser. Never looked back since.
Apart from the ****e Orange data packages. Currently using unlimited off-peak for £5 a month. Not ideal, but I work office hours anyways.....
Been There Done That
Had been with Orange for a while but was a very devout Nokia "Smartphones" Fanboy.
Had a free upgrade due and already had 2 of Nokia top phones at the time and instead of wasting the upgrade I upgraded to the SPV M3100 (Tytn I) just over a year ago. And boy was it something different. The hardware keyboard was a massive god sent. And just the sheer functionality of the phone coupled with the wide amount of apps you could install on it, plus the so much more useful roms I upgraded to courtesy of everyones fave developer forum. Really started becoming a massive tool and made my commuting time into Central London from the outskirts really productive and enjoyable.
Last week was due the annual upgrade and having checked out the features of the new Tytn II online, dived in without a second thought. After the initial transitional period and all the rom installations and getting the settings to suit my own individual needs. I can safely say that the beloved M3100 is been on a window sill gathering dust. Installed Duttys Dual Touch Rom II, a few apps, a few games, set up Windows Live and my own work emails and now just waiting on the 8GB Micro SDHC card i order and i should be all set.
Play Dvdrips and TVRips on TCMP with no lag and Dutty's rom doesnt seem to slow down too much, so havent reallly felt the affects of the missing graphics drivers. Just feels so natural now. I can safely say that if someone created a better Internet Browser solution right now I would definitely stop using the laptop for casual use. At the moment using a combination of Picsel, Opera, and IE and none seem to be doing a complete job. Picsel is awesomely fast and useable but its still in early development and doesnt support complete web solutions.
As for Orange, their data packages have never been the best but i usually use the net heavy apps like Windows Live Messenger, Youtube streaming and Net browsing in the Office or at home where theres a Wifi connection. But to be honest none of the other Network Providers have great deals and i've been with all at one point or another T-Mobile Web n Walk is good but they've started blocking certain ports that limit what you can do or so i have heard. The off peak data package (if you work 9-5) doesnt seem too bad.
But hopefully they'll come out with better packages soon.
Hi, interested you have skype working on your Xda Stellar - I can't seem to get this working? I downloaded the windows mobile version of skype and get a "this is not a valid pocket pc application" message and it fails to install.... Do you have any ideas?? Thanks
I am with vodafone and in a position to upgrade to which will be my first HTC phone. I was looking at kaiser but am thinking of hanging on for a couple of months for the HTC touch pro.
Kaiser audio quality
Hi,
I just upgraded from Hermes to Kaiser, and I'm comparing the two units at the moment.
I noticed that audio quality of Hermes is better, especially when listening to mp3s.
Does anyone agree?
I'd try and get a HTC Touch Pro if possible, just make sure it's the Pro and not the Diamond as you'll get the better (larger) battery and not have to give up the keyboard. The feature list of the Touch Pro is much better then the Kaiser.
The Kaiser is after all just an "update" that only new features are a slightly larger storage (not much of an issue with an SD-Card though) and built in GPS (but an externall bluetooth GPS gives you more battery.) On the downside of the Kaiser you have to convert videos to play just on your device where as with the Hermes I could use the same vids for my PC - which is basicly a downgrade.
Without meaning to sound defeatist, I have been looking into alternative devices, given the current issues
The Eten X800 is fairly similar in specs to the TyTN2. Has GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, no keyboard though (but VGA screen). But reading reviews, users are very criticial of the build quality, stability, usability, and customer support/ update frequency. The recent M800 has similar specs but with Qwerty keyboard. Again, I am reading bad reviews about stability and poor quality - apparently the key markings is rubbing off within days.
Other similar specced device is Toshiba G900. Again, seeing a lot of negative reviews, and lots of users sending theirs back. Apparently the interface and usability are appaling.
These seem to be the most directly comparable devices. There is the Samsung Imate range but I'm not too keen on the clamshell form factor for a PDA.
From what I am reading, HTC's devices are actually the most stable and well built devices with this sort of feature set. I realise there are huge issues with support and implementation of some features, but overall there is a reason why HTC stills keeps coming up again and again in "Top 10/Most wanted/ Most popular lists". Of course, they know that too, which is probably why they don't really care about the issues we are trying to highlight. They know that they are at least equal to any direct competition, even if no better.
Which is why I am sticking to my TyTN2 for now. It certainly does most of the things I want it to do, and does them fairly well, if sometimes (graphically) slowly. Put it this way - I bought my TyTN2 in October 2007 and have only ever soft reset it after installing cabs etc, never due to system freeze or crash. And I have certainly never had to hard reset. Have never had a device of any class I could say that about before. (course, guess what's going to happen in the next 24hours....!)
Anyone got any other comparable devices I missed out? As happy as I am with the TyTN2, if there was another device with same features but proper display drivers, there would be no question about swapping.
The at&t tilt is another name and the T-Mobile MDA Vario III.
+1 from me. Add the tilting screen, I'm not sure any other device has this and it's very practical. Likewise the QWERTY keyboard, limited competition for that. True you could get a bluetooth, or external keyboard, but that kinda defeats the all in one nature. Videos are fine with re-encoding (Ican live with that), sat-nav, perfect for the applications I run, I have tried TomTom now, and the jumpy screen really isn't that bad (IMHO) (however route calculation requires a bit of work, my 8yr old Garmin gives better, more direct routes. The Kaiser is quicker on calculation, but still has the same map errors the 10yr old map set on the Garmin has)
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(course, guess what's going to happen in the next 24hours....!)
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Optimistic ain't ya?! I'd be surprised if you lasted the day....
Hi all,
Today is the time to depart the formums as an existing Kaiser owner and help out only as a once windows owned device person
I've not contributed THAT much - atleast not using this name but I had another and was forced to change it due to a "run in" with a moderator on here who got kicked out soon after - this was a while ago though so it's been an interesting ride.
So not much of a story - Been a windows device owner since the first Ipaq in B&w screen and slowly moved onto the windows phones as soon as they came out (starting with the XDA). While my main job revolves around business intelligence, I still have a "side job" in repairing phones/electronics and the company I do this for gives me 15% on products hence changing my phone everytime a new one comes out!
I stop at the kaiser purely for a handful of reasons. While the bluetooth issue was somewhat sorted by reg changes, it still was not enough and it was heavily impacting my main job in where consultants require to be mobile on the phone wherever I go. In the car, it became dangerous at high-speeds where I was having to undock the phone and hold it - something now illegal here.
The other reason was purely down to the whole HTC Suit going on and rumours (not one to listen mind you) about HTC stopping production on the kaiser until this blows over.
I thought, while the price is high, get rid of it, migrate to something else and see what the future holds!
What did I get?
Well, last sunday, I was given two N95's to fix, one hardware, one software. The software was easy enough, hardware was interesting as it was my first N95 to rip open to its bare bone (liquid damaged).
Once I got it working, I started to play around with it and before handing it back to the customer, I have to ensure EVERYTHING works - minimum 48 hour testing.
I instantly decided I would want this IF I did not have the Kaiser...a few days later, I had a call in the car and again, could barely hear the person... I decided to use the customer's N95 and it was perfect.
I decided then to buy one and get rid of the Kaiser.
Thats pretty much it! I now have a N95 Nokia in Black (8GB version), loaded what I would use on the kaiser and so far, not had to pick up the kaiser once in 2 days.
Differences?
The biggest is the touch screen... I sometimes get frustrated I cant just select text and have to use keys to do it...something I'll get used to.
The other biggest is the keyboard. I used to be a typical txt'r on the nokia phones when I was a kid and thought it would be fine now - WRONG!
I would say it took me 3 times longer to txt then it would have on the kaiser!
Other than that, phyically, the screen is the same size (2.6") but much sharper and clearer on the N95 (I think the N95 has a much better resolution). And then theres the weight, while size doesnt make that much of a comparison, the weight is very noticable.
Software:
Ok, again biggest is windows vs symbian but speed-wise, no difference at all. It's a bit "noddy" in symbian to have everything in icons almost to spoonfeed even those who know the system but I can live with it.
Bluetooth is excellent, satnav is also good though it cannot handle TomTom unless used with an external reciever (something apparently waiting to be fixed)
Alarms work and is not limited to 3 like Windows. Small things like SMS on rejecting a call, having a delivery reports folder for SMS and so on is default on the N95, something windows still cant seem to grasp (despite numerous requests).
At the same time, you dont have the luxury of the proper Office, you have to go quite deep into symbian to change a theme, windows you dont, then theres the wonderful scrollwheel, something missing in the N95.
Overall, they both are excellent, what windows missed out, symbian got and viceversa. For me, I require bluetooth to work properly and not sound like I'm listening through a glasswindow. As long as this is the case, and GPS/satnav works... I'm happy. The n95 has a lot more features - one of the biggest being the accelometer which is like a motion detector - I can make my phone go landscape simply by moving the phone that way or I could navigate through menus simply by moving the phone in the direction I want to go in.
It's a gimmic but still, its there and its for the consumer to use .. or not to.
Hope this isnt too long and boring you but I didnt want to be like the typical leaver on the forum to say kaiser is crap, nokia is better because on the whole, I still would prefer the windows one if they fixed the issues, but now also if they made it ligher and more ergonomic (not that it already is!)
Based on the closing paragraph above, don't bother replying if all you're going to say kaiser is the best blah blah blah, though constructive comments are also welcome.
WIll pop in now and again and I think I have a few donations to make too!
(I could type the above on the kaiser, but I'll be damned if I have to type that on a normal N95 keypad...another user for the kaiser keyboard )
Yeah. Sorry to say, mine's hitting the road as well, but I'm not a smartphone kind of guy, i need a full-blown mobile office. so I got an E90 instead. Guess Nokia's getting the better side of things, eh?
Im the same mate ! Ive gone back to the Treo 750 and if not anything else , backto a rock solid phone thats works well all the time.
Just carried out HSPDA update on it and the speeds on net is fine . Email collection is spot on .
And on going back ive realised that i should never have jumped from it in the first place .
Still a HTC handset , but one thats working 100% for me
Can't comment on Symbian - never tried it. I used to use Palm OS and switched to PPC a few years ago.
Had a Dell X50v with VGA screen. Going to the Tilt/Kaiser was a step way down on screen resolution, but many steps up in other ways (like it fits better in my pocket and I don't have to carry a separate phone anymore, GPS, HSPDPA, nice keyboard, up to 32 gb memory card, lots of custom roms, ect...).
If I could do it over I would stick with the Tilt. Treo 750 lacks too many features (screen size, screen resolution, keyboard, GPS and doesn't sit nicely on a table for reading, 2GB max storage card). I want a Pocket PC 1st and a phone 2nd. But I'm not a business user. I could care less about talking in the car. Proven dangerous anyway, even when hands free, and those bluetooth headsets make you look like a cyborg.
I just came to the Kaiser from the S620. The Kaiser is really lacking in usability while "on the go". It was much easier to navigate the S620 I could respond to a text message with barley a glance at the phone. The S620 was also faster for most common tasks like making a phone call replying to an email etc... I find that I really like the kaiser as a data device and am very happy with it in that capacity. Surfing the web with opera mini is great much better experience than O-Mini on the S620 The keyboard is nice if you are using it with 2 hands the extra flexibility of WM6 on the PPC vs WM on the SmartPhone is also nice.
I can appreciate why you are peeved with the kaiser, I would be too if I was trying to use it as an all features phone.
However I do not, and I always view windows devices as a PDA with a phone built in, or as an add on in the software. Therefore it will never out perform or match a well specified Nokia mobile phone for example.
My solution is this:
Run the Kaiser as a device, for email internet and controlling your diary, schedule and files etc. Run it on a data only tariff, for example for £15 a month at the moment with vodafone uk you can get 1GB a month.
Then run a well equipped Nokia mobile phone as your phone, you get great call quality, good handsfree support when in the car as well as being able to leave the Kaiser at home if you do not want emails etc.
I do this, I run a Kaiser on data only, it does my gmail via imap as well as outlook email and internet plus in control my diary on it.
I then run an Nokia E65 which does my phone, test messaging etc etc etc. I also run my gmail via the Symbian onboard email client which means if I am out I can check headers and download an email if I need to read it.
I think for the small extra monthly outlay the kaiser is a fantastic device for what its designed for and I am not going to blether on about that.
Food for thought.
Tom
Tom Williams said:
My solution is this:
Run the Kaiser as a device, for email internet and controlling your diary, schedule and files etc. Run it on a data only tariff, for example for £15 a month at the moment with vodafone uk you can get 1GB a month.
Then run a well equipped Nokia mobile phone as your phone, you get great call quality, good handsfree support when in the car as well as being able to leave the Kaiser at home if you do not want emails etc.
I do this, I run a Kaiser on data only, it does my gmail via imap as well as outlook email and internet plus in control my diary on it.
I then run an Nokia E65 which does my phone, test messaging etc etc etc. I also run my gmail via the Symbian onboard email client which means if I am out I can check headers and download an email if I need to read it.
Tom
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Or you could just get a laptop with a built-in 3g card from whatever provider you want. I heard they have pretty nice qwerty keyboards on those. If that's too expensive, there's always an EEE PC + USB card, especially since those cards are usually free if you sign a contract.
Then you could drop the smartphone and just get your choice of free crappy samsung/motorola flip phone for phone and text.
The point of these devices is convergence. To re-split them is to go backwards in time.
Hmm.. if HTC doesn't fix this soon, I'll get the Meizu M8 (IF it will be released that is..).
Finally a sleek WM phone, 16 million colors baby!
akash_84 said:
Hi all,
Other than that, phyically, the screen is the same size (2.6") but much sharper and clearer on the N95 (I think the N95 has a much better resolution). And then theres the weight, while size doesnt make that much of a comparison, the weight is very noticable.
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I appreciate your story, but just a little note - the N95 has the same 320x240 screen resolution as the Kaiser, and the Kaiser is 2.8 inches of course (same as the latest N95 of course)
I wish the kaiser had a better camera, and proper graphics acceleration, (and that accelerometer seems more and more useful each day) but mostly I appreciate the N95 is more of a phone than the Kaiser.
After years of WM however I find other phones (and especially the N95) completely unintuitive, and cant really see myself switching away from the rich ecosystem soon.
Surur
meorah said:
The point of these devices is convergence. To re-split them is to go backwards in time.
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Couldnt have said THAT better myself.
who in their right mind would carry loads devices for music, taking pictures, sat nav, a mobile, a pmp, thats just stupid
I'm sorry that the Kaiser didn't work out for you, but each person is an individual, and what works best for me, may not be good for you. That's why we have hundreds of models of phones available. Personally I love my Kaiser, and I think its far better than my old PDA phone, the HP iPAQ hw6515. The RF reception is just as good as a good regular handset, not like the iPAQ which was only good in urban areas where you were surrounded by plenty of towers. I used to keep a Motorola A845 and a V551 in my truck and when in rural areas I'd have to take my SIM out of the iPAQ and put it into another phone to be able to make a clear call. I haven't had to switch my SIM card once since I bought my Tilt.
Sorry this hasn't worked out for you, and I wish you luck in finding the perfect device for your needs.
-Jay
That was an interesting read. It's a shame that the kaiser isn't all everyone wants it to be. I like my kaiser, sometimes I love it other times I find it incredibly frustrating. For example when sitting in my living room playing around with it, it's great.
But I was out and about over the weekend, standing on a very cold football touchline texting the results to my wife. The kaiser was running like a dog. Sloooowwww to update while entering contacts into the search as you type 'To:' field. Then the text failed to send (despite a full signal). I really started to think about other options such as the N95 or SE P1i - you know, devices that just WORK!
But last night I was traveling on a coach to the Wales v Normay match and decided to play with my google maps and built in GPS on the Kaiser and I fell in love with it again. I arrived at the game and shot some images on the camera and blogged to through Shozu. It all worked well. I then turned to Opera Mini to check the England v Switzerland scores and the thing froze on me. SR later and I couldn't get a data connection on T-Mobile despite my sons' N73 having a full signal and gprs connection. (also on T-Mobile)
I know I am going to have a love/hate relationship with this phone, but hey! Thats Windows Mobile.
Now....... how much is that P1i on Expansys....Hmmm £284
Haven't bitten the bullet yet but seriously considering E-Ten X650. Won't satisfy those wanting a fast data connection or a keyboard, but it does have an FM Radio and VGA screen. My biggesst concern is smaller RAM. Anyway, I am looking to get something a bit smaller with better video and it seems like it will fit the bill. Before the driver thing came up, I was thinking of going to the Touch Cruise, as I don't use the keyboard all that much but I since have vowed to never again buy an HTC device. I think the lack of drivers may have been excusable if handled properly, but the disrespect they have shown their customers and this community is in my opinion deplorable.
Now if we could just get E-Ten devices into this forum. Maybe they would appreciate the awesome support this community provides.
I have to say, I'm surprised that the E-Ten devices don't get much credit around here. I've never used one (maybe that's why I'm surprised!) but on paper it seems like devices like the M800 have the Kaiser pretty much licked. I mean, not only do they appear to have the drivers and performance, but VGA too? Okay, they don't look quite so nice, and maybe the button arrangements aren't so good, but surely they're Kaiser killers apart from that?
I kind of got my Tytn II by accident, and stumbled into the world of Windows Mobile, and on the whole I'm happy with it - but if I was putting serious research into it now I'd definitely have to take a serious look at e-ten.
I left, then came back at the refurb price.
I love the phone, but not worth $400....I'll take $150 tho
Note: for anyone considering E-ten. don't get it. First and foremost, build quality sucks. and it's... I don't even want to go there.
Hey im thinking of leaving the kaiser 2 can any one sugest a few devices that might make a good replacment? checked out the P1i metioned above really im thinking iphone after they give it 3g but will it have hsdpa? xda had to unlock it on the kaiser didnt they?
there may be hope yet:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7085.html
I put my Tilt on the shelf for now and picked up a Blackjack II. It works for now, but I still visit the forums hoping for a fix. I am kicking myself for selling the 8525. That thing was really running great with the latest cooked ROM's.
Dave
very interesting comments, I was half expecting immature comments about my own thoughts on why I was leaving windows/kaiser but these were very good constructive comments
So I've been using the N95 for almost a week now.
I've still not had to use the Kaiser once though I have kept it at arms reach just incase.
The only time I used it was for TomTom until I get my Garmin software for the N95.
What do I think so far?
Well after a week of intensive use... I do really prefer it to the Kaiser. Yes I still miss the keyboard which still takes 3 times longer to type an SMS compared to an N95 and I miss the touch-screen time2time but aside from that, I've got used to it and it does everything I need to.
For those who considered the Ericsson P series... I used to be a P series fan a while back having owned a P800, P900, and a P910. I was not however impressed with the P1 at all and found it more of a chore to use than anything.
But each to their own- I've just gone of the UIQ symbian software yet I still like the Nokia s60 symbian software.
If anyone wants more information about the N95, Kaiser or any other phone that exists - do let me know and I can try and answer them.
I work part-time as ahobby in a phone repair place so I get a chance to mess around with a lot of the units!