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Pre-Ordering a Kaiser

Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).

They are active over at pocketGPSworld and seem legit, although given Expansys aren't claiming to have an in-stock date I'd be a little dubious about stock coming in Wednesday.
Do let us know what you do
Gordon

Thanks Gordon.
I don't really believe the availability date, they have other HTC phones with the same date given for availability so it's probably just a general day when they receive their HTC shipments or something.
The P4550 page looks a bit out of date - a couple of the specs (GPS chip, RAM) look like they're taken from old information, so I'm guessing the availability date is a little way out as well. I've been waiting since January though, so a bit longer wont hurt.
They've got quite a good score on DealTime but I'm never sure whether to trust those sorts of sites, I'm happier listening to forum opinions, so unless I see a load of negative opinion, I'll probably go with them later this week - but I think I'll use PayPal or Google Checkout for a little extra peace of mind.

Seems they have removed the phone now as cannot see it on there site.

Superiorgadgets is taking pre-orders
http://www.superiorgadgets.com/ca/product_info.php?products_id=224

Couple of suggestions
I've used these guys before:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
and these guys have been around for ages!
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
Gordon

Expansys
I used expansys sometimes it is a great seller so i ask me why they don`t accept pre-order for the Kaiser... You can pre-order a iphone too wich nobody knows when it will be aviable in Europe....

Another one taking pre-orders
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-P4550

Another pre-order HERE

Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?

evolution_theory said:
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
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check link agian it costs now : $766.50

This product will be in stock on Thursday 20 September, 2007.?!?!? Well not so quickly

It was supposed to june in Asia, then delayed til Aug, now most probably will be Sep however will want HTC to iron out the details first before we get our hands on one, don't really wish to be a guniea pig tester

kaiserchief said:
Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
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I used superetraders to get my ETEN M700, they were very helpful with the order (complicated with a cc registered in one country and delivery to another country). The device arrived within the time they said and the phone had had a pre-sales check - I never got any of the problems that seemd to plague others!
I can heartily recommend them!

Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.

Well I placed my oredr with Superetrader and payment was taken straight out of my account because I (stupidly, it seems) used Google Checkout.
Google Checkout showed my P4550 as "Posted" but, as noted earlier in this thread, Superetrader then took the P4550 off their site.
A few e-mails later trying to figure out what was really going on, Superetrader have confirmed that the release date has slipped to "Hopefully late July or early August". Shame I had to pay for the thing way in advance, but I'm hopeless with money so at least I know it's paid for and will be on it's way asap.
Moral is avoid Google Checkout! I have no problem with Superetrader, but the whole process has been complicated by Google and their fledgling payment service, which clearly needs a bit of ironing out.

Kaiser on ebay
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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$1350?!?!?! I hope that is packed full of gold and various high-quality jewels.

Pre-Release Phone Sold
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Sorry guys, phone is sold... to ME
Yer it is slightly expensive.. but I am going to salary sacrifice it.. trusty tax cut so overall it wont be that bad.
Can't wait till it gets here! Tho it will be a few days cos its coming to Aus..
- Syrius

mightyox said:
Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
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I have an email confirming that the delivery date is scheduled for the fisrt week of September.
www.calculatorking.com.au
I bought my O2 Mini from these guys so they are very reputable.

Best Kaiser Vendor?

Like many of you, I'm planning on buying an unlocked Kaiser. I'm hoping to create a thread packed with info about vendors, warranties, prices, etc. Bundled software is also a big issue--there are reports of Kaisers sans TomTom and I want to avoid that if possible.
Please tell us about your buying experiences!

MadMonkeyBoy Gadgets @ www.dweiniger.com
Excellent prices and service. His site may not look good, but he comes thru every time. Recommend him very, very highly.

I got my K-Jam from Mad Monkey Boy. Top notch seller. No complaints here and he kept us up to date constantly from distribution in Asia to his door.
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc

McHale said:
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc
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I agree with McHale 100% Richard has been outstanding to deal with and I also like to support this site. Doesn't hurt that the price is the lowest around either
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FireMedic05 said:
Like many of you, I'm planning on buying an unlocked Kaiser. I'm hoping to create a thread packed with info about vendors, warranties, prices, etc. Bundled software is also a big issue--there are reports of Kaisers sans TomTom and I want to avoid that if possible.
Please tell us about your buying experiences!
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check out http://www.egadgetdepot.com/ I bought both my TyTN and my new Kaiser there on day one, Amazing service and fast trun around shopping.
Stan the owner response to emails/Google Talk almost 24/7 and his prices are low WITH price match....

On order from XDA Store. Richard is prompt in responding to emails, and apologizes when he isn't.
The only problem with XDA Store is that in-stock indication can sometimes be inaccurate.

McHale said:
I got my K-Jam from Mad Monkey Boy. Top notch seller. No complaints here and he kept us up to date constantly from distribution in Asia to his door.
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc
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When you say XDA I'm assuming that you mean this site. The price is currently around $800, how did you get such a great deal?

I found this one OK, with good prices both in auctions and 'buy it now'. Any experiences (positive/negative) from this vendor?
http://stores.ebay.com/INTEGRON-TECHNOLOGIES

i got mine from ebay vendor networkingrus. ships same day. i ordered mine Monday got it the next day.

FireMedic05 said:
When you say XDA I'm assuming that you mean this site. The price is currently around $800, how did you get such a great deal?
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You need to have a discount club membership - so in the end it actually comes out to $720. $680 for the phone, $40 for the club membership.

Superior Gadgets here. Was fast, shipping was upgraded free, he included car charger as well as screen protector. Tom Tom was not in the box but he provided me with a private link to download it.

I for one can vouch for egadgetdepot, bought my TyTN from there and now planning to get the kaiser. Stan does provide amazing customer service. He helped me get the screen issue get fixed all the way.

I used Superior Gadgets as well, Paul was very polite and communicated thru the whole process. I got the english version with TomTom, I did NOT get the car charger and screen protector. Paul said they were just comming in but they have never shipped as far as I know, that was a few weeks ago.

I purchased two Kaiser units fom store.xda-developers.com
They shipped relatively quick, at a very competitive price and arrived in good order.
They are having some startup pains, some accesories did not ship, and the in stock status was not up to the minute.
However Richard in their customer support has been very responsive and has quickly addressed every issue. When they get all the kinks resolved, they will be even better. I would not hesitate to purchase from them.

I can tell you who isn't a very good vendor to buy from and that is Elite Electronix. I bought my Kaiser and a 4 Gb SD card from them a month ago, Aug 31st to be exact, and I still have yet to recieve the SD card. Every time I email them to ask about the status of my order I have to email them at least 3 times to get a response out of them. The only good thing about them so far is that since I didn't get my kaiser on the first round they sent it next day shipping when their second batch came in.

Australian release today - With 3 hutchinson for TyTn II - Kaiser

Finally an official australian release for the phone with 3 in Australia. Outright price is AU$1099. Check link for details
http://www.three.com.au/cs/ContentS...2637&cid=1153120041618&MobileId=1190337429343
Interesting thing also is that it comes with Co-pilot Live and not TomTom

Picked up mine today....very happy with it.
It comes with Co-pilot live V7 which is great, also full Car kit, Mount and holder which is made in Germany...looks the same as the brodit....and included is also the car charger.

U guys get a lot of things in the box. Enjoy ur Phone

Yeah...I am really pleased with it. I had a Universal before and loved that but it was just to big, also I could never get it fully compatible with the 3 network. I was worried about going from a VGA screen to QVGA....but I have already got use to it.

Copilot Live 7.0 issues
Guinevere,
I've purchased the HTC TYTN II from Three and absolutely love it!
just wondering if you had problems with Copilot Live 7? It seems that this version does not let you add custom POI's to its database. Also, the Safety Camera option is greyed out.
This same problem occurs on the desktop version as well (Copilot Central).
Any thoughts? Thanks!

How's Copilot 7? I haven't seen/used it since 5. It used to work great =)
When it comes to bundled goodies, North America really sucks. Luckily I still have family in Hong Kong and getting them to buy stuff there for me works out nicely.

i thought that htc had a contract with tomtom.
1099 is that with a full version of copilot?
a little off topic here but i was browsing the 3 website and trying to figure out what you guys pay for your wireless, 35 cents for 30s so with the 49 dollar plan you get 70 mins? am i understanding that right?
$29 for 1GB wow do you guys just get the cheap 29 cap and use msn with a data plan?

Well apparently in Australia, HTC's contract is with Copilot.
The Copilot Live 7 is a full version, with a few limitations as I previously pointed out (you can't update safety cameras or POIs).
Copilot Live 7 has a very much improved interface from version 6. It looks very pretty and very snappy in performance. It seemed to have learned from TomTom in terms of it's ease of use and its overall GPS experience.
neotekz, answering your questions about the 3 Network, I think you've misread it. Those price plans are what they call "Caps", meaning once you reach a certain amount of spend, you don't pay anymore till a certain allowed limit. The $29 Cap plan gives you a $120 spend limit, and another extra $70 for calls between 3 customers. So in theory, you get $190 to spend a month, which is pretty good deal. The higher the cap, the more credit you get.
The Data plans are separate. They start from $3 a month...

Excellent Value
That is a great deal. Stores here are charging $1200 and delivery end of Nov.
Can you give details of the ROM? Thanx

Where are you buying your TyTN II?

I'm curious, where is everyone buying their TyTN IIs? I almost got burned on a purchase through eBay (decent rating, but had to file a claim to get my refund).
I looked at smart-mobile-gadgets.com which looks pretty legit. They even have the version with TomTom in stock, and a good price. However when I called the number it went to a generic 'the person @ is unavailable' voicemail box.
I know it's carried at the XDA store but there's no guarantees yet on versions (I want TomTom) and I need the phone sooner rather than later.
On top of that, I've looked into becomming a reseller but none of my distributors carry it either, and I'm getting a lot of runaround from HTC America.
Any suggestions or stories of good experiences of your purchase? Please share!

i bought my unit from supergps - but it was faulty so i sent it back - they said they couldnt reproduce the fault and sent it back to me - so ive now got back to them and have asked for my money back - we'll see what happens - i will probably be buying the next kaiser from someone else who has a bit of credibility to their name (i dunno, maybe expansys)

i bought mine from phonesource-usa.com's store front in las vegas. It had tomtom, uk plug, and no us adapter. no hassles. only caveat is the 14 day return policy. my unit has a bad pixel, but i didn't feel like fussing over it (assuming they would have exchanged it anyway).
i'd buy from them again.

the XDA-Store has a great Deal: http://store.xda-developers.com/HTCTyTNII-unlocked.html
Comes with TomTom and US adapter for the UK plug

I bought from MobilePlanet, myself. And got a discount for getting the AT&T plan through them (need to call their CS to get that).
I would ask a question, though - if you're in the US and don't already own maps for TomTom, you're likely to end up unable to use the taster version that's included. The maps you can select from are relatively small (the LA area is three maps, for example), and I haven't run into anyone who could purchase additional maps for the included version without popping for TomTom 6 anyway.
So if you're in the US, you might want to reduce the importance of TomTom on your purchase decision.

AT&T Navigator

I think I've seen in other threads that some people have managed to activate AT&T Navigator on the Fuze. When I went to Programs\AT&T GPS\Get AT&T Navigator, it opened Opera to a page that told me my device was not recognized, and none of the links on that page led to one that mentioned the Fuze.
If you managed to activate AT&T Navigator, how did you manage to do it? TIA.

When I got my Fuze, they added the AT&T Navigator trial to my device, not sure maybe they only allow certain phones to download the software.

Never mind. The mods I had made to let Opera display full web sites instead of mobile versions apparently fooled the TeleNav software. I used PIE on the URL passed to Opera and downloaded the AT&T Navigator .cab file with no problem.

So is this At&t Navigator free?
Or is it just a free trial/Demo?
Also, is it free to use? as long as i have the unlimited internet package thats standard for the fuze? Is it better than Google Maps Mobile?

It's a 30 day trial and then it's $10 a month. Very good though...

Alucard_11 said:
So is this At&t Navigator free?
Or is it just a free trial/Demo?
Also, is it free to use? as long as i have the unlimited internet package thats standard for the fuze? Is it better than Google Maps Mobile?
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As noted, $10/month after the 30-day free trial, or you can cancel and pay on a day-at-a-time basis for $4/day, if you only use it infrequently.
It's different from Google maps. It's like a car GPS unit, giving you voice prompts when you need to turn, and such. I haven't used it yet; I'm still waiting for the delivery of my windshield mount for the phone, which should come in the next day or two.

I would just buy On Course Navigator 8 for $125, it has all og the US & Canada and there is no subscription fee. That's equal to one year of AT&T Nav.

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I would just buy On Course Navigator 8 for $125, it has all og the US & Canada and there is no subscription fee. That's equal to one year of AT&T Nav.
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You can get it cheaper if you don't need a lot of storage on your microSD card; the version that comes on a 2GB card (leaves you a couple hundred MB free, I think) is only $65. (Unfortunately, you have to run it from the card they supply, you can't copy it to your own card, which is a dealbreaker for me. I already have an 8GB card that I bought for under $25, and buying their 8GB card with OCN8 on it costs $40 more than the 2GB-card version; ain't gonna happen.)
I must say, though, that all the reviews I've seen of OCN8 make it look very attractive, and if someone had a way of copying it from the 2GB card to my 8GB card, I'd almost certainly buy it.

This workaround doesn't work...
I tried opening the url in PIE and it still doesn't recognize my device. I am using ROMeOS. Any suggestions on how to download Telenav Navigator?
Thanks in advance,
Brian

Well I emailed Telenav to find out how to download...
their software specifically for the FUZE and their Support responded with this:
"Support is not made aware of potential future versions of TeleNav until the time of the versions' releases. Unfortunately, I do not have any answer for you as to whether or not we will be developing TeleNav for that or any other specific model of phone."
Too funny. I guess I will be canceling Telenav service soon since even they don't seem able to tell me how to download the Fuze version.

Try putting this url into PIE. It worked for me.
http://att.telenav.com/nav/

TaurenSnake said:
Try putting this url into PIE. It worked for me.
http://att.telenav.com/nav/
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this worked perfect.

finally figured out how to add addresses and look up businesses on the web and synchronize them to my navigator's "Favorites". If anyone is interested here is the link: http://my.telenav.com

ive got the telenav and attnav versions that both of ya need. hit me up