HUGE BUG: wirelles doesnt STAY ON/CONNECTED with toggle screen ???? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi guys i like to use wireless alot, and at home i use wireless to chat and other softwares
that need comunications ...
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????

cre8or said:
Hi guys i like to use wireless alot, and at home i use wireless to chat and other softwares
that need comunications ...
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????
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You could never put the phone in standby on wifi on the heremes. I *****ed when I was new to hermes and was told that is to save power. I dont remember about just turning the backlight off though.

Yes its a really ***** PROBLEM!!!!
I am pissed off... you cant image .....
Other PPC can do this.....
- Disable autoPower off in POWER OPTIONS.
- Toggle SCreen
And wifi keeps conected and ON but with TYTN2 i am not ABLE TO THIS !!!!!!

cre8or said:
Yes its a really ***** PROBLEM!!!!
I am pissed off... you cant image .....
Other PPC can do this.....
- Disable autoPower off in POWER OPTIONS.
- Toggle SCreen
And wifi keeps conected and ON but with TYTN2 i am not ABLE TO THIS !!!!!!
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sucks, but I am not surprised

I had the same problem when streaming. When I lock the screen with the power button on my treo I'd lose the stream. But this doesnt happen if I use scrsaver.exe from PHM. I posted it here in post 2 http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=139884 just change the extension to exe of course and run the exe on the ppc
It turns the screen off and locks the buttons. On the treo you would turn the screen back on with the center button on the 5way. Hope this works for you. Its been a jewel for me.

its to save power. using wifi uses SO much power and its impractical. I have yet to see a PPC that does NOT do this. Some "seem" to not do it but i assume that it just "keeps the connection active" and when it does re-connect back up it continues to send data, but gives a false sense of it being on (correct me if i'm wrong)
simple soloution: Connect the AC adapter to your TytnII and the screen backlight may turn off but the device will remain on (you can still see the screen) and thus keeping your connection. Not the ideal, but a 4hrs battery life with wifi on? not my idea of a good idea
Edit thingy:
Btw its not a huge bug .. very misleading topic title!!!!

GilesTheAlmighty said:
its to save power. using wifi uses SO much power and its impractical. I have yet to see a PPC that does NOT do this. Some "seem" to not do it but i assume that it just "keeps the connection active" and when it does re-connect back up it continues to send data, but gives a false sense of it being on (correct me if i'm wrong)
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Btw its not a huge bug .. very misleading topic title!!!!
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From what I read it IS a huge bug, and.... you're wrong
Just kidding, but WiFi is supposed to suspend when device is put in suspend mode, sure. But of course not when just the screen is turned off. And every ppc should act that way..

cre8or said:
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????
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I believe you can toggle this behavior with START/SETTINGS/CONNECTIONS/Wireless LAN/Power Mode and slide towards "Best Performance".
I noticed this on my Sprint Mogul while I had it. Funny thing was after a clean phone boot it wouldnt always behave according to where the slider is (even tho set at best bat life it would still stay on sometimes when screen timeout, I don't believe the kaiser/tilt does this), but going into the settings and moving this slider would make it behave accordingly.
Good luck.

I'm seeing the same thing. On my TyTN, I used to use MortSaver to turn off the screen but leave the device and WiFi running. Since I switched to a TyTN II, WiFi turns off when I start MortSaver.
Cranking up the WiFi power options to max performance does not seem to help.
This is not about standby mode - we all know WiFi turns off there (even if we'd prefer that be an option too, of course).
If there a fix for this issue?

I think something could be made via reg editing, but since I don't own a kaiser...

lastnikita said:
I think something could be made via reg editing, but since I don't own a kaiser...
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Any tips where to start looking?

yep, in the registry
just kidding, check that key, lot of parameters to play with.. Their names sound just like what you're looking for :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms
note that TNETWLN1 is the name of the WiFi adapter, so it may not be the same on kaiser.

lastnikita said:
yep, in the registry
just kidding, check that key, lot of parameters to play with.. Their names sound just like what you're looking for :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms
note that TNETWLN1 is the name of the WiFi adapter, so it may not be the same on kaiser.
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The relevant key on the Kaiser would be:
HKLM\Comm\TNETW12511\Parms
(somehow it scares me that I know that from the top of my head )

I was sure TCPMP screen off option was working ( keeping WiFi alive )... after awhile ... it failed too.
sorry

NEWS !!!
this might be the solution we're looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1676739&postcount=365
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UnicornKaz said:
NEWS !!!
this might be the solution we're looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1676739&postcount=365
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Sadly doesnt work for me. At least the green LED blinks for a while in standby mode but the device becomes pretty warm and the Wlan says disconnected if i turn on the device again.

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Problems encountered so far...

I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
Hi,
I haven't had the problems you have, not even heat yet as has been discussed. Perhaps it's because I am not taxing the unit yet.
However, I have not been able to synch my PC to the Kaiser to yet. Synching pictures, music, TV is not an issue because Windows Media Player is working. It's the Contacts, Notes, Tasks that I cannot synch.
When I open the Windows Mobile Device Center the Connection Settings window opens up with the Allow USB & Bluetooth Connections radio buttons. When I hit OK with both Radio buttons selected (USB & Bluetooth), that's it, the window closes and there's no Windows Mobile Device Center that opens up. Task Manager shows no open Windows Mobile Device Center application but does show a Windows Mobile Device Center process, wmdcBase.exe.
What am I missing here? Please help, 4 days & I still do not have my Contacts in this phone.
This is a duplicate post from lower down.
Cheers,
Phil
Pooper said:
I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
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1) this happens but only with the D-Pad sometimes. This also happend on the TyTN
2)haven't had that problem
3)Screen goes dim but if I touch the screen it comes back on
4) haven't had that problem
Pooper said:
I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
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Screen goes dim and the start menu does not work. This is because of the password pin set on your phone. If you deactivate it, it should be fine. It's definitely a bug on the Kaiser. There are registry hacks for this, but I have no idea how to get around it.
regarding the screen dimming, I assume this is with the HTC ROM.
My phone has been fine with the latest two AT&T ROMs (the first ROM had this prob, the screen would dim after 10 seconds). You can temporarily fix the problem by resetting the Backlight timeout Settings.. Backlight... Battery Power tab) to something like 1 minute. It will keep getting reset every once in a while though... You can also turn off the backlight timeout completely (unchecking the box), which seems to work longer.
BTW it seems to be a problem with the HTC Home plugin. When I installed the original AT&T ROM but didn't install the HTC Home today plugin, the problem did not happen.
I have seen the D-Pad problem in Outlook only - that is, hang up a call, then d-pad doesn't work to navigate thru email. Once email is open the D-Pad works... Solution is to kill (click x button) Outlook.
M
Screendim
Screen goes dim and the start menu does not work. This is because of the password pin set on your phone. If you deactivate it, it should be fine. It's definitely a bug on the Kaiser. There are registry hacks for this, but I have no idea how to get around it.
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Same here, screen dims and startmenu does not work. Issue is I can't deactivate pw (corp security pollicy for pushmail client).
Could someone elaborate a bit on the possible reg hack that could fix this?
Thanks...
Hi
I made a small app that helps overcome this issue by making the phone usable again after a phone call.
You can get install instructions from here with a file a few posts down: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=258974&view=findpost&p=841951
Hopefully it will be fixed by HTC soon so it's just a short term work around.
Regards
Phil
Thanks
That works, thank you very much for your effort!
We'll wait for the HTC fix.
mrpotts said:
However, I have not been able to synch my PC to the Kaiser to yet. Synching pictures, music, TV is not an issue because Windows Media Player is working. It's the Contacts, Notes, Tasks that I cannot synch.
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You need Outlook installed to sync those.
Add this - SMS goes bust!
Details are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330176
i had a 3g connection with google maps running in background (gps was accurate within 10 feet) and was playing namco's ms. pac-man on the tytn ii rom when device locked up mid game. Power button would put phone into standby, but it was locked up besides. i had to soft-reset.
Cool, do HTC release updated ROMs via their website?
Also, ive had the home plugin going fuzzy and locking up quite a few times now.... definitley more problems introduced since i enabled the 'lock' feature :S
No call button??
On the dialpad is no call button only videocall button???
Am i blind?........
With my phone the 'ok' button (not on the keyboard) doesn't always respond (well). Either to confirm a adjustment or to minimize/close an screen
I have found a pretty simple workaround for the issue with the screen going dim and the start menu not working after a call.
What appears to be happening is that the device is actually locking the screen yet the keypad to unlock is not displayed. So the start menu and such think they are locked. I found that if i simply power my device off and back on the password screen/unlock screen shows up. Unlock it and you are fine from there.
Not really a fix but it will save you a reboot.
Hmm im getting lots of sync problems with Windows Live :S, also my phone 'says' it's connected to 3G/H but then randomly doesnt send texts :S
Really starting to annoy me now!

GPS in sleep mode?

Hello,
I need a feature that you can go to the diamond sleep mode in tomtom navigation and this application will still work. For example in riding a motorbike if you have the diamond in a pocket (navigation via voice and need to safe battery)
Do you have some idea how to config this?
Thanks!
I wonder as well. If I want to save a track (KML file) when i'm hinking I want the unit to be in sleep mode, but that the tracking continues so that I can see my hiking trail in Google Earth later. Is this possible?
No, it is not because the GPS receving unit is useless by itself... it always requires a software to read and use the data it produces (a navigator, a speedometer or a simple NMEA logger). When a WM device is in sleep mode the CPU is not working so you can not elaborate/save such data.
However if you want to save battery you can use a display switcher like the one included in psShutXP to switch off the display while the unit is still working.
OK, thank you ....
Hello,
I tried it but if you use the screen off function e. g. with the psShutXP or the AB Button Plus then tomtom stop working. So I still don't know how to switch off the display while tomtom is working.
I appreciate next hint, thanks!
i haven't tried this yet, but the thing is, after you shut down the screen with psshutxp, ur phone is still gonna go into sleep mode once the prescribed time limit lapses...i'm talkin about the duration set in the power settings
so the way to do this MAY BE to change the duration in 'power off in' settings tab, and then use psshutxp to turn off the display

What solution do you use to keep the GPS on ?

I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?
tytn2user said:
I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?
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GPS on and Power down are contradictory... I measured that the GPS uses 120mA to run.
Anywho, PhoneAlarm will do it for me. I have a GPS Tracking profile (a day and a night one actually) and the phone never turns off when I have it set to those. Gotta be careful with it though, if you forget to disable it you'll find a hot phone with a low battery in your pocket later.
Have you tried to just set the settings to do it? It's not automated, but it's free. There was a thread on a program called BikeMobile which the author describes how to modify the registry to NOT allow the phone to go to sleep when a certain com port is active. I never quite grokked it, but perhaps you will. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387262
Thats going to be a nice and toastie phone all day.
Thanks khaytsus. I will try out PhoneAlarm and see how I go. I found the phone to be drawing only about 45ma when my screen was off. Just trying to find a rom to suit my needs at the moment. When I find one I will start to try to find a solution.
There are many programs like "trackme" which can log GPS and switch off screen for you. There are some standalone programs like "BlackMe" which can switch off just the screen and lock phone for you.

GPS Cycle Computer

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Installed the software on my Kaiser last week, can get GPS connection but when I lock the screen the software doesnt track my GPS Route and wont track will locked .
Has anyone experienced the same issue and is there a work around.
rm1984 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Installed the software on my Kaiser last week, can get GPS connection but when I lock the screen the software doesnt track my GPS Route and wont track will locked .
Has anyone experienced the same issue and is there a work around.
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Try asking on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Anywho, yes, suspending (power button) will turn off the built-in GPS, and I think even bluetooth GPS. TrackMe will just turn off the screen, the phone itself stays on, and it'll keep tracking as long as the phone doesn't turn itself off.
I use PhoneAlarm to set the suspend time to disabled, turns up the backlight, turns up notifications, and runs TrackMe in a "GPS Tracking" profile, so I just change profiles and go.
I suppose more GPS Tracking programs are not a bad idea, just... eh.. Duplication I guess.

Wifi/Data Disconnecting on Screen Sleep

When my screen goes to sleep, my Wifi or my data connection stops (whichever one I'm using).
If I'm listening to the radio using Radio Time, the sound stops after the screen sleeps. An interesting thing to note is that if you go to the lock screen, it starts playing again. It seems like the screen just needs to be on. The problem seems to be limited to just certain applications because Pandora still plays after the screen turns off.
Another app, Android Web Desktop, which allows you to text and manage your files from the computer, doesn't work correctly either. Nothing loads while my screen is off but it starts loading once I turn my screen on.
I'm running on a Sprint HTC Hero with DamageControls v2.07.2 ROM for Android 2.1. I also have a Flan lockscreen. I don't know whether the problem is ROM related or what.
Does anybody know why this is happening and how I can fix this?
Please Help!
Make sure always on mobile data in settings is checked.
Jaden10 said:
When my screen goes to sleep, my Wifi or my data connection stops (whichever one I'm using).
If I'm listening to the radio using Radio Time, the sound stops after the screen sleeps. An interesting thing to note is that if you go to the lock screen, it starts playing again. It seems like the screen just needs to be on. The problem seems to be limited to just certain applications because Pandora still plays after the screen turns off.
Another app, Android Web Desktop, which allows you to text and manage your files from the computer, doesn't work correctly either. Nothing loads while my screen is off but it starts loading once I turn my screen on.
I'm running on a Sprint HTC Hero with DamageControls v2.07.2 ROM for Android 2.1. I also have a Flan lockscreen. I don't know whether the problem is ROM related or what.
Does anybody know why this is happening and how I can fix this?
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I just check the settings and I already had always on checked. Should I just wipe and see if the problem goes away? Am I the only one with this problem?
check the wifi sleep policy as well.
Settings>Wireless & Networks>Wifi Settings> [press menu] > Advanced >Wifi Sleep Policy
Setting it to never will make the wifi radio never disconnect, at the expense of battery, of course.
I have it too, although I sort of assumed it was by design. Makes for a pretty frustrating experience trying to use Gmote or Boxee Remote.
bcispcpro said:
check the wifi sleep policy as well.
Settings>Wireless & Networks>Wifi Settings> [press menu] > Advanced >Wifi Sleep Policy
Setting it to never will make the wifi radio never disconnect, at the expense of battery, of course.
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I'm still having the problem kinda. It seemed to not turn it off as fast. It stopped working after about 30 seconds in Android Desktop and RadioTime kept playing but was very skippy. Are you having this problem? I don't understand why certain app work and certain don't.
bcispcpro said:
check the wifi sleep policy as well.
Settings>Wireless & Networks>Wifi Settings> [press menu] > Advanced >Wifi Sleep Policy
Setting it to never will make the wifi radio never disconnect, at the expense of battery, of course.
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For problems with Gmote and Boxee Remote, this fixed my issue.
bcispcpro said:
check the wifi sleep policy as well.
Settings>Wireless & Networks>Wifi Settings> [press menu] > Advanced >Wifi Sleep Policy
Setting it to never will make the wifi radio never disconnect, at the expense of battery, of course.
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That was a useful suggestion. To go a bit further on this point. You can turn on/off your wifi (and more) by using applications like timeriffic when you really don't need it. Eg, when you're sleeping. Timeriffic changes some of your profiles based on time so it would be a great option to add to this setting change.
nam_hee said:
That was a useful suggestion. To go a bit further on this point. You can turn on/off your wifi (and more) by using applications like timeriffic when you really don't need it. Eg, when you're sleeping. Timeriffic changes some of your profiles based on time so it would be a great option to add to this setting change.
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I use Juice Defender to do the same thing and I let it manage my mobile data connection. Helps stretch out the times between charges a little bit despite me using my phone very heavily.
Solution , for me
http://www.pocketables.com/2013/10/...ing-trouble-using-certain-apps-over-wifi.html
Turn off WiFi optimization .

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