In terms of left=left and right=right ..
the main/back camera works as expected ..but when it comes to the secondary/front camera, here's what my result is:
normal mode is actually "flipped/mirror"..meaning if you raised your left hand -->> picture actually shows right hand ..etc
and when switching to "flip" mode ... it acts accordingly ... left = left and right = right..but only when you have the device sideway to landscape ... if you hold it normally .. picture is upside down ..etc
Better yet, ... write out a word and view it with the front camera in both modes & you will get a clearer explanation of what I was trying to explain above
This is coming from "desktop webcam" point of perspective .... because with webcam, what you "noted" will read out normally ...
Imagine "video conferencing" and things do not read the "correct way"
or taking self portrait and the message is backward ...
what's up with that ??
almost 200 views ... yet, nobody has confirmed this bug ??
I'll take from the silence that we are all experiencing the same thing then !!
holler if you found a solution
I don't know, a face is a face. I just checked this bug out using the camera app, Very Interesting!;
I set it to Camera2, my face was a mirror image, I held a text card and yes the text was reversed.
I set it to Camera2 Flipped, my face was "normal", text was readable.
Here's what's ODD, in the Camera2 setting, if I "barrel rolled" rotated the camera 360 degrees while watching the monitor, My face was always upright!
If I set it to "Camera2 Flip" and rotated the camera, my image rotates upside down as the camera rotates.
That's different!
Hmm, just saw this and tried it. At first when I went to the camera options there were only the options main camera and 2nd camera (flip) so I hit that one and everything was reversed then I hit the camera button again and the option for 2nd camera without the (flip) was there and that one works the way it's supposed to.
basically what I'm saying is ...
If you ever have a video conference and the need for written words happen .. things are going to be all backward ..etc .. other then that ... the video is mirror in "normal mode"
and when it's in "flip mode" ... you're upside down at all times except when the unit is landscape position.
The camera should acted the same as your desktop webcam though ... where written message are seen as they should be seen ... the normal "readable" way !!!
Hi
This is how you see it of course at your end. A mirror image is normally more natural to look out when you are watching your image as a preview as we are used to seeing ourselves as a mirror image.
What is being sent to the person the other end, it probably isn't a mirror image but as you would expect. My webcam works in exactly this way, I can choose the type of preview image I see but this doesn't alter what the recipient sees.
Regards
Phil
Totally right. I don't think this is a bug.
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This is how you see it of course at your end. A mirror image is normally more natural to look out when you are watching your image as a preview as we are used to seeing ourselves as a mirror image.
What is being sent to the person the other end, it probably isn't a mirror image but as you would expect. My webcam works in exactly this way, I can choose the type of preview image I see but this doesn't alter what the recipient sees.
Regards
Phil
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UnicornKaz said:
In terms of left=left and right=right ..
the main/back camera works as expected ..but when it comes to the secondary/front camera, here's what my result is:
normal mode is actually "flipped/mirror"..meaning if you raised your left hand -->> picture actually shows right hand ..etc
and when switching to "flip" mode ... it acts accordingly ... left = left and right = right..but only when you have the device sideway to landscape ... if you hold it normally .. picture is upside down ..etc
Better yet, ... write out a word and view it with the front camera in both modes & you will get a clearer explanation of what I was trying to explain above
This is coming from "desktop webcam" point of perspective .... because with webcam, what you "noted" will read out normally ...
Imagine "video conferencing" and things do not read the "correct way"
or taking self portrait and the message is backward ...
what's up with that ??
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Just click on the camera ICON, you will toggle from back, front(mirror), front(normal) and all your confusions will go away.
Unrelated yet related question...
Curious about a security app that possibly exists/could be written involving the front camera option. Is there any way that, unbeknowst to the "user", the front camera could capture their image and automatically e-mail it to the address that is associated with the phone's owner's personal information? Should someone, other than the true owner, pick up the phone and attempt to login, perhaps after the second failed password entry, this app could engage. [If it's just the true owner being forgetful, then they get an e-mail of themselves looking silly.] If the device is stolen, then the true owner at least has something to go on.
Better still, have the app automatically run as the last thing the device does before a soft-reset. If stolen, I have to imagine that the first thing the thief would do is reset the device. [Again, if it's the owner performing the re-set, no harm done]
Further - Have the GPS send along the location of the device at the moment the picture is taken.
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I wonder if there is a way to change my camera from portrait to landscape. Thats all I need. I believe sombody will answer me soon. THX
Uh, just rotate it 90° clockwise or counterclockwise. That seems to do the trick for me...
It doesnt work with this trick. If yes I wouldnt ask for help ;|
Well I sure dont know of a way to do it.
for my own personal intrest why would you want to do that in the first place?
I have a sony camera and that option is not given to me and it cost me as much as my BA, I can't phone with it (BUT DOES IT EVER TAKE BETTER SHOTS).
I just want to see what I am shooting at entire display. It can be cool, what u think
maybe the guys which are working on coolcamera app will make BA version of it and we will have a solution for your problem, but we will have to wait until then
I did a little joke about the question, because the wording was a bit ambiguous. What he wants is to make the image preview show up in fullscreen, in landscape mode. It might be possible with a different camera software, but I think the one used in our roms do not support it. Personally, I am fine with our camera, for me it would be weird to see the picture rotated 90° when taking shots. What I would like to see is a more finger-friendly touch interface for the camera...
so I downloaded the latest diamond album to my kaiser to try it out and I like it but I can't rotate the picture the same way I could with the htcalbum... So I looked at the help file and saw that to rotate the picture all I had to do was turn the phone.. WOAH.. but didn't work... obv. I've been doing some research and it seems possible that we could trigger the screen rotation by turning the phone. It uses the camera to figure out your position.. Now I'm not nearly good enough at this stuff to figure it out on my own, but I did find a little game that is supposed to move the snake based on the movement of the camera, this might be a good place to start, but I couldn't even get the game working.. it's called "CC snake" (attached below) Looking for some ideas, maybe ripping out the controls from the game is a place to start?
http://www.clutch-productions.com/ccsnake.cab
I can confirm that this program runs on my old SDA (wm5 smartphone)... still get an error when trying it on my tilt
Dunno if this is relevant or not but a short while ago, i saw a website where someone had used the camera on a Nokia mobile (i think the phone was a 6600) to create a wireless optical mouse. You had the screen in the palm of your hand and the two hardware buttons were left click and right click. I believe the data was sent over bluetooth. It probably uses a similar technique to work out the direction of travel as you would use to work out orientation.
I haven't been able to find the original website but i did find this
www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~sheridaj/publications/2005/PERMIDPointingDevices.pdf
which seems to be a paper about using a mobile phone camera as a pointing device. I haven't read it through as i'm at work but it could be useful?
I seem to remember the original site having code samples. If i find it, ill post the link.
(Tried to upload the pdf but the file is too big, sorry )
Edit: I believe i found some more info
here are some more links:
http://www.pyrofersprojects.com/blog/?page_id=41 - This guy reckons he's done it but he's not giving out the code
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1h_ITR0G0 - The video i found, the related videos section looks like it might have some answers.
Please stop me if this isn't helpful!!
video looks bullocks...
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video looks bullocks...
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yeah, it would have been more convincing if he showed the phone actually moving the cursor although the comments link to slashdot (I didn't read the article tho)
this seems to be interesting, too
http://www.gesturetekmobile.com/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
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according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
Shub-Niggurath said:
according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
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ok, here's what he says.
"Things didnt go entirely smoothly of course. The first thing everybody is probably saying is, but the camera only shows black when its flat on the mousepad! You are of course right, Light is needed. My temporary solution is to hold the phone about .6cm above the pad, letting light in the side. My camera picks up enough to see at this distance."
don't see him do that in the video, and the window which he moves on the screen stops for a couple of seconds right before the camera points at the phone. that's why i said it's bullocks. i'm no programmer, we've done a couple of games for eyeToy, so i know you need light and contrast. (that's obvious) notice in the link i posted the guys were wearing contrasting, flat t-shirts. (Blue t-shirt/yellow block etc) not sure that Monster of a camera on that Nokia can handle patternless black surface (mousepad from the video, even at 6cm).
EDIT : Ok - just noticed he sais .6cm , not 6 .
so, half a cm... .. i don't know...
anyway - i'm open minded... might as well be true.
so has anyone been able to get the game ccsnake to work on their kaiser? might be a place to start.
what about using a glow in the dark material as a mouse pad ?
Hi All
A quick question regarding the contact photos in the People tab in TouchFlo.
I click add favourite, and asks me to pick a contact... so I do.
Then it asks me to pick a photo or use the camera, at this point I WANT to use the camera.
The camera starts but is locked to full photo mode, not contact photo mode.
All the buttons that are normally there are gone leaving just the menu button, which is no use whatsoever. SURELY this is some sort of bug.
Even if I go back to full camera mode and set it to contacts mode (hoping it would use the last mode selected) it still uses full photo mode.
Am I doing something stupid or overlooking something really obvious ??
And before anyone says.... Yes I know I can take the photo first then add it later, it's not the point
BUMP
Could some one at least confirm that this happens on their Diamond as well, so I can at least know whether this is normal behavior or just my device.
It will take you around 1 minute to confirm.
... please
Confirmed from me ... Can't change photo mode... can't change where to save the picture, have to save it in 'device memory'.. bummer ...but I never noticed because I never used it that way...
Thanks mate for confirming that.
Like to meet the programming genius behind that... and ***** slap em upside the head
Just wondering if anyone else has noticed that occassionally (and seemingly more and more frequently) pictures that I take with the camera are either incorrectly saved in the wrong orientation or are being displayed in both the TF3D tab and the HTC album in the wrong orientation.
In other words, in HTC Album, when I hold the phone in portrait mode, the picture shows in landscape and when I rotate the phone to landscape, it switches to upside-down portrait mode. It's like chasing your tail! Really frustrating! It also displays landscape pictures in portrait and vice-versa in the TF3D tab as you flip through the photos.
This doesn't happen with every picture, but I can't seem to figure out any pattern that would illuminate the cause of the problem.
Am I alone in this? (I have a Euro Diamond)
You Are Not Alone!!
I have been having the exact same problem,and its becoming more and more frequent!
It is fustrating tho because when you are holding the phone in a portrait position and you have a landscape picture, you instinctively try and the phone sideways to see the picture straight....but this just turns the picture so your looking at it the wrong way again!
Its weird how some pictures arent affected and some pictures which are taken right after the non affected pictures are affected!
try to make sure your device is fully upright, perpendicular to the floor. i have a feeling your g sensors are not calibrated and your devices are confused with odd angles. give 'er a try and post results
Yeah, I've experienced this too.
Are you guys using the Gsen app cos I'm wondering if it's that which is having an effect?
Just in case you don't know, you can edit them so they show the right way round using Pictures & Videos in Programs, just select the offending pic and select edit from the menu, then rotate and then just hit ok in the top right corner once you have it the way you want.
I have this problem and it is very annoying, I have the HTC 1.93 ROM and don't use GSen (at the moment). It would be great to find a solution to this problem.
I think this is just a major design flaw in the HTC picture viewer. It's one of the major reasons I use other software instead.
Having the g-sensor enabled in a photo application is just f*#&ing stupid IMO. It totally fails to handle the fact that people often rotate the camera when they take photos. Most people find it easier to rotate the viewer rather than mess about with image editing ... but when they try, the g-sensor f*#&s it up for them.
It's tragic and funny seeing my friend (who still uses the HTC software) having to bend his neck right the way over to view his own photos. And what is with the inability to change the sorting behavior?!!
fl4r3 said:
I have been having the exact same problem,and its becoming more and more frequent!
It is fustrating tho because when you are holding the phone in a portrait position and you have a landscape picture, you instinctively try and the phone sideways to see the picture straight....but this just turns the picture so your looking at it the wrong way again!
Its weird how some pictures arent affected and some pictures which are taken right after the non affected pictures are affected!
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I think this might be because when you're taking a picture, you should be holding the phone in landscape mode, when you take a picture in portrait mode your phone will rotate the picture like that.. i ALSO had that problem. try it and let me know
Are you using G-Sen?
If you have had G-Sen on then toggled it off, photos will be in the wrong orientation.
If you do a soft-reset without g-sen loaded, pictures are taken correctly.
Solution: if you are using g-sen, make sure it is toggled on before you take a pic.
That's what i found works for me anyway.
I have the exact same situation. But the photos weren't taken with the Diamond, and I have more than a hundred of those. They are, for the greatest part of it, taken in landscape mode and it thinks they are in portrait mode.
Is there a way to change their orientation massivly ? I mean it would take me a life to rotate them one by one.
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Is there a way to change their orientation massivly ? I mean it would take me a life to rotate them one by one.
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Place a very large mass next to the diamond, in order to confuse it about which way is down.
It'll be much quicker to alter the orientation on your desktop pc - but it'll have to be a manual one-by-one job. AFAIK, there's no way to do it automatically because it's impossible for any software to know which way up each photo is supposed to be.
Or just use a better viewer without stupid g-sensor usage.
Edit: Another thought... if you change the orientation of some of your pictures (after taking them) then you'll find that they're out of order in the album because the time/date stamps have changed! 3rd party software really is the way to go! /rant
ok, it's been a month, i just found this thread. i have the touch pro but having the same problem. the htc is calibrated just fine. anyway to fix it? htc is so notorius for bugs, can't believe that one slipped.
any better touch oriented album viewer to replace the htc album app? also, would the camera app know to switch to other album prg or always insist of this damn buggy album prg ?
thanks
I have a weird thing going on..
When I view pictures using the Albums app and I have the unit sitting upwards, the image displays in landscape.
When I turn the unit sideways, the image rotates back as if the unit was upright.
Without hard-resetting... does anyone have any idea on how to go about solving this??
I am not running gsen, but I did have it installed at one point and it was working very well. Teeter, bubble level, and other tests work great.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried recalibrating it ?
there are a bunch of programs here that might help you do that (e.g. waterlevel)
Are you using GSen while _taking_ the pictures? I found out that some pictures themselves have been taken with the wrong orientation so it's not the album's problem but the pictures'. Try viewing a picture you upload to the phone and see if you have the same problem.
Thanks for the replies.
It was my understanding that the g-sensor wasnt able to be calibrated yet. I have bubblelevel and I used the calibration with that (but not recently).. so maybe that is causing my problem to begin with?
Does waterlevel actually calibrate the g-sensor or just the waterlevel software?
I dont have gsen installed anymore, it was giving me problem and never worked properly.
Okay I just realized something... I actually took the pictures while holding the camera sideways. So it would make sense that viewing the picture while the camera is upright is going to show the image on its side.. and visa versa when the camera is turned.
So is there any way to view a picture in albums with the camera turned on its side, and view a wide picture without having it turn the opposite way?
Try it, youll probably understand a little easier. Basically if the picture was taken wide, and you view it in albums on its side, it flips it the wrong way.
This is a known problem and I already reported it to HTC, not received a reply yet, but I hope they will be updating the Camera program so it takes in consideration the way the device is held when the picture is taken.
This is actually possible but the only one who can do that is the one who owns the source code, thus HTC.
Thanks for reporting on this Scotchy.. Good to know.