Ive been having some problems with my tmo wing lately in terms of extreem lagging. Ever since I have used pocket mechanic to defrag my storage card, everything went to sh1t on my phone. I cant boot my phone with my storage card in the slot or it will just reset when it gets to the green windows mobile background. And most importantly, whenever I open "Messages" on my phone, it takes honestly 5 or more minutes to open, then another 5 to open sms/mms then another 5 mins to open/reply to a sms. My program memory is usualy always ATLEAST over 10MB and I had batery status running and while i was opening these windows at the task bar it showed it was using 0% or minimal processor usage, so im assuming that it's not executing properly... does someone have a fix for this? can someone help me out? because to temporarely fix the issue i have to reboot the phone... thanks!
- Norman
Here's something you should try.
Remove the card then insert it into a card reader at your computer. Copy everything on it and then format the card using FAT16.
Now back-up everything possible on the phone. (in your case this could take a while). Place the back-up file on the computer, if you use the card for back-up reformat it again after you complete the process. Then hard reset the phone and check to see if it still has this problem. Place the empty card inside the phone and try to copy some stuff to it. If everything is ok, restore your files using that back-up you just made. Check to see if the problem manifests now. If it does, clearly there is something rong with your program configuration and you may want to reinstall all your programs manually.
If the phone still runs slow after a master reset you should try to rewrite the phone's ROM as a last resort option. (your back-up copy woun't work after this). If it still runs slow even after this, then... well that's bad. It's something I call "the dead slow card problem". I've tried to find a fix for this for about 3 years on different htc products, but with no succes. The good part is that there's a very small chance this can happen in the normal every day usage. Try this things first and tell me what happens.
wow... Before i even attempt this surgery, i just want to say thank you very much for taking the time to write all this. it's very appreciated.
Before i try all this, i got a few Qs.
What do i use to back up my stuff on my device? or do i just copy paste important stuff... if so what about extensions and associated files...
And what involves a hard reset? does it effect the registry tweaks that i have done? in the end... what will be reset?
- Norman
I really appreciate ur help! ive done as u said and everything seems fine now... my phone is now back to scratch, which im happy with so I can start fresh and avoid all that junk I had on before... THANKS FOR UR HELP! UVE BEEN GREAT! A+
- Norman
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Ok no idea how this happened so I'm sorry I can't say exactly what went wrong. Last night I noticed that for some reason none of my mp3s were showing up in the library. Was out with some friends so just went on with my night until I tried to use PocketCM Contacts. Some reason it wouldn't load and I had to uninstall it and switch my softkey back to standard contacts. Latter on I realized that everything on my storage card was somehow gone.
In settings - memory it still shows the same amount of file space taken up on the card and I have tried removing it a few times and resetting.
If it's all gone that's ok because I have copies of all the programs I had installed. Only problem really is that I don't think I have the mp3s on my computer.
Was just wondering if this has happened before and if there is a chance the files are still there since the space on the card is still used. I also plugged the phone into active sync and it also shows nothing on the card.
This is a common problem and there are lots of things that cause it. Primarily, it is installing programs on your SD card, and leaving them running and your phone hibernating.
Typically when this happens, a simple soft reset will fix the problem... but I always suggest keeping up to date back ups of your SD card in order to avoid losing all your data.
I'm in a car at the moment using internet sharing on my phone, so I'm not going to find you all the links, but run a search on the site for "Corrupt SD Card" or "disappearing SD card" and you'll find lots of info about it.
Thanks man. Since I lost all my programs I think I'm gonna reflash the phone too. Want to try touch-it out.
man it has happened to me like 3 times on my wing. the first time i soft reset my phone and it worked. The next time i deleted my documents folder because it was showing 2 of them and i lost everything. I formatted the card and it messed up again this weekend. I ended up flashing to the touch it rom yesterday to see if it would make my phone more stable because i read that it might be the phone making my card act up.
I searched for ways to fix it and downloaded programs but they didnt work because my SD wasnt recognized by the programs. I lost 400 songs and ringtones and videos the first time and 500 songs the next. I have all the songs on my cpu but i made them all smaller to save space and that took a while. I dont even feel like putting anymore music on there because i might end up losing it all again.
Just keep contant backups of your card in case it happens... I bought a USB 2.0 card reader Stick thing for like $20... so I can copy files back and forth faster than thru activesync.
stock rom and everything, just no bloatware.
this morning it worked perfect, about 2 hours later is all retarted.
1)the backlight is dim and doesnt get as bright as its supposed to unless i plug it in
2)when i slide the phone open the screen doesnt flip the other way
3)getting multiple "cannot execute" errors of clocknot.exe, repllog.exe, calnot.exe. these pop up and i have to click OK 20+ times and less than a minute later they came back on again. actually now i cant even get them to go away.
4)i left my phone alone for a while after realizing something was wrong with it and when i came back to it was just constantly vibrating, i dont know for how long but it killed 60% of my battery.
software i installed is just your basic stuff, tomtom, touchflo cube, htc touch dialer and touch today setup, htc home customizer and battery status and i think thats pretty much it.
anybody have any idea on what might have happened? like i said, the phone worked perfect this morning. i put it down, went a swim, came back and it wasnt working right so i did a soft reset and it didnt fix anything. i put it back down, took a nap, came back and it was vibrating and then i did another soft reset and thats when i got all the error messages. so i did another soft reset and still doesnt want to work.
wait, now for some reason it seems to be OK after another soft reset. I DONT GET IT.
so now i received and sent a text message and then closed the phone, it locked and turned the screen off. i then put it on the charged and the screen wouldnt turn back on now matter what button i pushed. but the lights on top blinked and when i opened it the keyboard lit up. so once again....another soft reset
you probably should hard reset your phone. but be aware that it will erase evrything on ur phone and return it back the way it was, so backup ur info
Yes, I second that. Make sure to back up your data before hard-resetting, though, as you will lose it all (contacts, files, everything).
To hard reset the phone, press and hold the two soft keys (buttons on the front that have a dash on them; next to the send and end buttons) while pushing the stylus into the reset hole in the bottom. If you do it correctly, a white screen will come up asking you if you want to do this, and just follow the steps until it is finished.
Please post back and tell us the result.
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Yes, I second that. Make sure to back up your data before hard-resetting, though, as you will lose it all (contacts, files, everything).QUOTE]
Use the latest version of "SPB backup" to backup all data before you hard reset and you restore the all applications after a hard reset or even a ROM Upgrade.
P.S: I don't work for SPB... I just like the software
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Don't just back everything up as you may just re-introduce the problem on restore!
Back up your contacts and volotile data only (sync it with Outlook if you use it).
Hard reset and then install 1 app/util at a time and test the device each time to check stability.
Hang on a second...
Before you hard-reset...
Open your favorite file explorer application (I use GSFinder, but the default WM6 File Explorer should be fine), and browse to the Storage Card folder. If there's more than one, keep reading.
I store lots of applications on the microSD card itself, and I often take the card out of the Tilt, and put it into a card reader for faster file transfer. Sometimes, this results in the Tilt thinking I have multiple microSD cards when I put it back in. I haven't quite nailed down what causes this (I haven't searched, either, the answer might be on XDA-dev somewhere).
The end result is, the Tilt is looking for stuff that isn't in the /Storage Card folder. Instead, the phone recognizes the card as /Storage Card2 or /Storage Card3.
I have run into the EXACT same problem you've got, with the same errors. Every time, I've been able to correct it by removing the physical card, and then deleting all the /Storage Card (1,2,3) folders that are still on the phone.
After you do that, just insert the card again, and it will be recognized as simply /Storage Card without any numbers after it. Now the applications will work properly, as WM6 will be looking at the right folders.
ok sorry, havent been back on. phone was working great until last night and then it started acting up again. after multiple soft resets it started working fine again this morning.
there is only one storage card listed so thats not my problem but thank you for the idea.
looks like ill just take any stuff of the phone i want when i get home and do a hard reset. do they replace these phones for software issues with a stock ROM?
happened again, should i try to see if they will replace the phone?
anyone know if i need to call to do that or do i need to go to a certified at&t place?
If you are using the Stock ROM and have performed a hard reset and it still has problems then return it under warranty.
tjs98gt said:
happened again, should i try to see if they will replace the phone?
anyone know if i need to call to do that or do i need to go to a certified at&t place?
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There are no more certified ATT places around here, everything is by phone and mail. If it is still under warranty thats what I would do if you are unsure of it's long term condition.
i am still stock ROM. it locked up on me again yesterday and i did a hard reset. hopefully it wont happen again. i dont feel like customizing my phone from scratch yet again
Im soo pissed off right now.
So here is the situation. I'm hoping that I can quickly find help for the battle that me and my AT&T Tilt WM 6.1 are going through.
The name of the war -
CLEARTEMP ERASED EVERYTHING!!!!
So im at work on my office phone when my Tilt (which was in my holster on my hip) started vibrating... in three buzzes. I thought it was a message so I didnt answer right away.
5 minutes later I take out my phone to see who sent me a message but for some reason instead of seeing the S2U2 screen there was a "are you sure you want to?" block asking if i wanted to erase one of my programs because it was a unistalled registry, so the first thing i did was say no...... IT DID THAT FOR ABOUT 28 TO 30 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS!!!
Afterwards I exited out of Cleartemp to see if the programs were still on my phone but to my surprise not only were all of my programs gone but my storage card was completely erased and their was no settings folder and the only thing left in the programs folder was Games, tool box, file explorer and that fu3kin Media net.
I would have simply hard reset and used my sprite backup but there was no settings folder to get to the hard reset and my storage card was wiped completely clean.
so now i cant even hard reset and start from the ground up.
What can i do?
THANKS IN ADVANCE for taking the time to scratch your head in curiosity with me.
I would appreciate anyones help in helping me get through this War!!!
"THE VILLAIN"
Do a hard reset by holding down the two softkeys and pushing the reset button on the bottom, keep the softkeys held till the unit acts like it's resetting. It's things like that that make me not use Cleartemp, Memmaid, or any of those other "registry cleaning" programs - they tend to screw things up more than help IMO. Sucks though.
Yeah, that's a real bummer, sorry to hear about that. In my opinion, cleartemp is alright, but some options in the program are very smart to avoid, like registry functions. I have tried the hard reset by keys method that many websites have suggested, however many do not work for me anyway. For my Tilt, I have to hold the two soft keys on the front with "-" on them, press the stylus in the reset hole, hold it in for a few secs, pull it out, and then without releasing the two soft keys, press the power button and follow the on screen instructions. I hope that helps you, and good luck,
Dave
Also try one of the many file recovery tools out there to recover your erased data on your sd card.
most data when erased isnt actually gone untill new data is written on top of it. dodm writes binary to every sector of a drive and then wipes it clean in between 7 times and even then its possible to retrieve data with a lab.
thats why they say to destroy all drives physically if it contains confidential data. Ive used different freeware and trial ware apps in the past to recover lost data from curropted or accidentally formatted drives and have recovered some if not all my data. just make sure you only imediately remove that sd card (keep the os from writting junk to it)and only insert it into a card reader when your ready to try to recover it.
I googled sdhc file recovery
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=restore+sdhc+recovery&aq=f&oq=
lots of things came back unfortanetly I cant remeber the name of the app I last used but a little reading and hopefully you can recover your sprite settings.
I hate to play devil's advocate here, but this post sounds surprisingly like what would happen if someone had their phone stolen and was using a security program to delete all information in such a case. A text message, then no programs, no data, nothing...
I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it is something to consider. That being said.... if you haven't messed with your SD, you can try some sort of recovery software on a PC to get your information back. It will copy block for block info from your SD to anohter location. As long as you haven't tried rewriting over your SD, you may have a good chance of recovering your backup.
THANK YOU!!
Thanks to everyone for the response and patience in helping me get through this situation. What I actually did was go to file explorer, searched for the hard-reset cab. and pressed on the "ink."
That did a hard-reset and luckily every time I save a program to my phone I make a copy and save it to a flash drive. So basically I'm in the process of re-customizing my phone to the way it was before..... (hopefully, lol)
But once again Thank you to every one for there support.
"THE VILLAIN''
Hi everyone! I got my Wing like 2 months ago, and I did what every newbie does. I Installed lots of things just to realize that I would use 10% of the stuff. Then, started the cleanup,trying not to hard reset it, just as a matter of pride.
The worst thing I did to my Wing was Pocket Mechanic Pro. It's famous "registry optimizer" swept away my voice command among other things. After some research, and ivanmmj's inspiration (thanks again, ivan), I managed to fix almost every issue that PMP's registry optimizer caused. The only one remaining is that everytime I soft reset the phone, it keeps looping and never gets into today screen. T.Mobile logo and silly music, Windows mobile logo, and then after a while, starts all over again, and again, and again. The only workaround for this is to take the microSD out and when I see the today screen reinsert it. No big deal, but sometimes it's recognized as Storage Card 2 so I have to rename Storage Card and reinsert the microSD. Any ideas on what might be causing the restart loop?? Help would be really apreciated....
A thing may be you have missing registry keys and the OS identifies bad paths. Sometimes it happens with *folders* called "Storage Card" and then you must rename the SD card. (This happens usually if using software for english-only systems and you're using i.e. spanish WM which calls "Tarjeta de Almacenamiento" to the SD card, then you may fins sometimes a "Storage Card" as a folder, not the SD card).
Another *different* thing (I think that's not happening to you now) is the SD card is bad, and you must format it. Sometimes the device freezes without any apparent cause...
Well, I posted to your other thread about your problem, Ivan suggested you to hard-reset (I hard-resetted many many times my Herald... I'm a newbee forever ) and the best you can do is:
1) Search for a good ROM, do *every* previous step (including a search and download of your original ROM and Radio, etc.), and then install this ROM you prefer. A Light or Naked will help you to have an empty device to fill it at your own wish.
2) Look for an app which does backups, and backup your registry.
3) Look for an app which helps you to enter "safemode" if any problem appears. With Monocube v.2 you can align screen and enter to something similar to standard mode, with Monocube v.3 you can't but you'll be able to solve problems (those apps are not free)
4) Install Schap's Advanced config, and config your device (take care of configuring options for the Herald/Wing, not for the Kaiser or others)
5) Install on the device ONLY the apps you'll or your device will need. the rest, you'll have enough space for them in the SD card.
6) Try to minimize the use of RAM, so that you must have the fewest apps running.
7) Backup all your device again so you'll be able to recover your config without spending looots of days installing again.
8) If something wrong happens, you'll be able to boot in safe mode and correct it or to hard-reset and recover your old conbfig/installation.
I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC. Phone was off so no problems. I reinsert the SD card and reboot. Now although I'm absolutely sure the card was fully inserted, once the phone fully booted I had the "SD Card removed" icon in the corner and everything started to force close. So I quickly shut the phone off, made sure the card was fully in, and rebooted again. it loaded up again, and while the no SD Card removed error was gone, I was still getting FC's left and right and apparently have no gps, no wifi, and no 3g. So I once again rebooted into recovery, ran the fix permissions and rebooted. Again, booted up and FC's everywhere. So now about 90% of my apps FC on launch (either actual launch of the phone or by pressing the icon), I can't activate WiFi or GPS, and I have no data/3g. What happened and how can I fix this? Thank you so much in advance for your help.
Edit: After a little more fiddling, I find that I can't change any settings. I can't set screen timeout, notification levels, so on and so forth. What happened?
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I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC. Phone was off so no problems. I reinsert the SD card and reboot. Now although I'm absolutely sure the card was fully inserted, once the phone fully booted I had the "SD Card removed" icon in the corner and everything started to force close. So I quickly shut the phone off, made sure the card was fully in, and rebooted again. it loaded up again, and while the no SD Card removed error was gone, I was still getting FC's left and right and apparently have no gps, no wifi, and no 3g. So I once again rebooted into recovery, ran the fix permissions and rebooted. Again, booted up and FC's everywhere. So now about 90% of my apps FC on launch (either actual launch of the phone or by pressing the icon), I can't activate WiFi or GPS, and I have no data/3g. What happened and how can I fix this? Thank you so much in advance for your help.
Edit: After a little more fiddling, I find that I can't change any settings. I can't set screen timeout, notification levels, so on and so forth. What happened?
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Tried repairing ext file systems?
FatBoyExtraordinaire said:
I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC.
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Windoze no doubt. Windoze is HOSTILE to non-MS filesystems and WILL attempt to destroy them.
Other possibility is that you simply didn't click the card in all the way.
Anyways, what has happened is that your phone booted up and was missing a ton of applications that it was expecting. It therefore irreparably destroyed your package configuration.
You MIGHT be able to salvage it if you have a recent backup of the file /data/system/packages.xml.
Try restoring that file, syncing the filesystem, and rebooting via 3-finger-salute INTO RECOVERY ***IMMEDIATELY*** after syncing. Then do a fix permissions and reboot normally.
... and cross your fingers.
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Tried repairing ext file systems?
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I did that, but it was a no go. Everything still FC'd, couldn't change any setings, and it says my phone doesn't have internet permission, so anything requiring data access doesn't work.
lbcoder said:
Windoze no doubt. Windoze is HOSTILE to non-MS filesystems and WILL attempt to destroy them.
Other possibility is that you simply didn't click the card in all the way.
Anyways, what has happened is that your phone booted up and was missing a ton of applications that it was expecting. It therefore irreparably destroyed your package configuration.
You MIGHT be able to salvage it if you have a recent backup of the file /data/system/packages.xml.
Try restoring that file, syncing the filesystem, and rebooting via 3-finger-salute INTO RECOVERY ***IMMEDIATELY*** after syncing. Then do a fix permissions and reboot normally.
... and cross your fingers.
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I'm guessing I didn't click it all the way in because I have done this 100's of times before and it never happened. Unfortunately, I don't have a recent back up of that file so it's sounding like i am screwed. Would i be able to just wipe the phone, the ext, the cache and start over from scratch?
It seems I may be out of the woods. It's going to be a tedious solution, but at least I won't have to wipe anything or unroot or so on. Basically I have to uninstall and then reinstall everything to end the FC's and restore settings and data. It was actually the Maps update that helped me figure this out. I got the notification that there was an update so i followed it and upgraded. The fact that it notified me and then allowed me to download the new version told me the net was working. I also had another app that needed to be updated that was also fc'ing. So i upgraded that app and viola, no more fc and the 3g was working. So i uninstalled other apps that were giving me trouble with settings and data like Quick Settings and Tweetcaster, reinstalled and now I'm good money. I've got 144 apps installed so it's gonna take a few hours, but it's worth it to have my phone back. Thanks again for the advice.