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Whose camera cannot Touch->FOCUS ?

Dear fellas,
Although this topic has been briefly discussed in various locations, it hasn't gotten "big" enough.
I know a number of ya guys are having this problem. The touch-sensitive action button used to focus does not focus the camera (and yes, I have set it to "touch & press").
Mine works intermittently, in fact, doesn't work most of the time. I know it's 100% not a hardware problem, as the button lights up and brightens up my screen according to normal behavior. Now I'm wondering, for those guys who don't have this problem, do U have a different version of the camera app?
K.. mine's the stock HK 1.93.831 ROM and my cam app is version 6.00 (build 31516).
I'm not sure what causes this problem. Although I'm not a camera freak, but this prob makes my baby "imperfect".
Pls post yr ROM and camera version (I wonder if there's a difference) and state if youre experiencing this problem. Thanks!

Hi MasK,
I'm having the same problem as you, the "touch & press" feature didn't work most of the time.
I'm using HTC SG ROM 1.37.871.3, camera version 6.0 (Build 31364).

I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.

i have a similar problem where i run the camera app, then the 1st time i place my thumb over the button nothing happens, but if i take my thumb away and try again it will work fine.
It will continue working fine untill i restart the camera app, just never registers the 1st attempt.

This does show that there is some serious prob with this functionality. For me, it's the first time that has a higher chance of working.. not subsequently.
How abt the rest? We needa find out what's causing this!

upz...
Anymore ppl having this prob?

Same here. Most of the time, including 1st time also fails.

+1, most of the time I have to click on the button to do the focus + photo. When I just touch, the camera tries to focus but the square doesn't become green. Sometimes there's no white square at all.

Hi,
mine recognizes the first touch so it focuses correctly but after i take the picture, it doesn't focus anymore when i touch it. actually i just found out about this focus thing and tested. until now i always just pressed the button when trying to make pictures and it always makes a focus and then capture the image. is this OK or it makes them better if i first let him focus and then press the button all the way?
p.s. i do have "touch and press" selected.
p.s.2: is there any way i can change exposure time or something like that so my pictures won't get blurry when my hand shakes or something? many of my pictures are fuzzy because i don't really have a steady hand :-s
Best regards,
Florin

GeckoDev said:
I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.
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Yep that's how it works and I don't seem to be having problems, just tried doind a few shots and it works perfectly.
Everytime I touch the center button the white square appears and the camera does the autofocus until it turns green. Then I change the orientation and do the same again. I just did it 6 times in a row and the autofocus worked perfectly all the times.

I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.

Huey85 said:
I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.
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Cool.. so it goes to show it's a pure firmware issue. I'm wondering perhaps it's due to registry tweakings that creates this problem.
Any more feedbacks?

Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?

cannabis23 said:
Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?
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No difference in quality, however with the "touch-then-press" focus you see a focused picture on the display before taking the shot.

Mask,
Can you tell me what is the camera app version in Bepe's 0.96 Rom?

I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.

Roy_Drage said:
I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.
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I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
@MasK: I don't think it's a firmware issue or related to registry tweaks, but more a issue related to the camera app - bepe noted that it was a newer version (thus you won't see the Resolution icon in the Settings anymore - you can still change the resolution via Advanced settings). You could ask bepe more about the camera app and whether he did any tweaking in regards to the camera.

Huey85 said:
I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
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Yeah I know what your saying, I tend to just point n click, let it auto-focus once clicked and take the pic. As long as I'm pointing at what I want and I'm as far zoomed in as I choose then it's fine. I'll take a load at a time and then just delete the unwanted ones later.
But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!

Roy_Drage said:
..But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!
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Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.

Huey85 said:
Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.
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Completely agree, it's plain to see now that the phone was rushed. I know for a fact that if I hadn't found this site and wasn't able to flash the thing with new ROMS and applications etc then I probably wouldn't of bought it.
In effect this site is doing the work that HTC should of done in the 1st place. We shouldn't be finding ways around their problems by simply saying "oh doing it this way doesn't bother me". It would of been nice to have the thing working smoothly from release.
But then again this is half the fun right? Mucking around with new ROMs and apps to set it up how each individiual likes.
I know that I would feel sorry for anyone with a brand new HTC Touch Diamond that is still at factory settings!
The one I am running now pisses on the phone it was 2 weeks ago

Odd camera quirks

I've just come back from holiday where I found myself taking quite a few snaps with the Diamond's camera rather than my usual camera simply because it was more convenient.
I don't normally bother with PDA cameras as they're pretty much rubbish but for quick snaps the Diamond's camera is not too shabby. However, I noticed some very strange quirks:-
1. It seems to try and detect the orientation of the camera using the G-sensor and rotates the image automatically. Most of the time it gets it wrong - is there any way to stop it from doing this so I can rotate my images manually? it really messes things up in Album!
2. In really bright light (such as shooting directly towards the sun) everything goes dark blue and grainy. It's actually quite nice (I have a Holga camera so quite into that sort of thing) but I can't think of an explanation for such behaviour!
See attached for an example.
Cheers
Dave

I got a very blueish picture on a bright day (though not against sunlight) too... Though taking a picture inside then yeilded fine colors (well, average quality). Dont know what cause it, must be a flaw in the color metering.
I really wouldnt use the camera for anything other than snapshots or when you dont have a camera around. Even at 3.2mpx like my old Canon A510 (a budget entry camera, hardly anything high end), the Canon beat the living snot out of it. I wont even begin to compare it with my F40fd (again, a budget cam).
Though I must say its much, much better than my old 1.3mpx K600i phone camera, lol.

I've certainly heard that overexposure can lead to a blueish tinge. So you might want to try manually cranking down the exposure and see if that helps next time.
In this case its more than a tint though, there is pretty much no red or green in the image and the contrast is off the charts. Interesting and fun pictures though.

The Diamond camera needs a UV filter as the chip is too sensitive to the high side of the spectrum. Mine is not as bad as yours- and I was taking photographs similar to yours, perhaps there are different back covers that provide filtering- I have the original Diamond cover.

i also had blue pics when taking pics against the sun but with my 4 megapicsel casio camera. last time it happened there where also ppl, (blue) in the pic lol. so, maybe it is not a diamond related problem.
have you tried using the inbuilt setups for exposure?
if i have no other choice an have to use the diamond as a camera i am always take out the back cover. another thing to try

Thanks all for the responses. I actually quite like the blue pictures, and since the behaviour is at least predictable I'm not too bothered. Instant Holga effect
With regards to the G-sensor guessing camera orientation however that is really bugging me. And also I've noticed that the camera on-screen controls don' t flip to portrait mode either.
Cheers
Dave

davew said:
Thanks all for the responses. I actually quite like the blue pictures, and since the behaviour is at least predictable I'm not too bothered. Instant Holga effect
With regards to the G-sensor guessing camera orientation however that is really bugging me. And also I've noticed that the camera on-screen controls don' t flip to portrait mode either.
Cheers
Dave
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Yes, also i am bugged of this. I've take a shoot of a contact image with the PDA in Landscape (the photo was right in this position).
Now i have my friend photo ALWAYS rotated of 90° and, if i rotate the pda, the photo rotate itself and it's NEVER aligned.
Now i can't assign the photo until i don't rotate it by the PC

Exactly - you take the shot and then try to view it in Album. Then you end up wiggling the Diamond around to get the orientation right. In slideshows the orientation is all wrong too.
The only way to fix it that I've seen is to go into the MS "Pictures & Videos" application after taking your shots and rotate each image manually.
Most digital cameras I have ever seen just leave the image alone

Mine is also very blueish (MDA Compact IV here) and it also auto-rotates for me
Hopefully we can find a way to at least turn off the auto-rotation, with some tweaks or new camera software!

The blue-ish tinge in a normal situation is probably just the white balance being off (or overexposure as another poster pointed out).
To get those mad blue shots I had to stand in the surf at the beach and shoot directly at the sun. When I tried the same shot at sunset I got normal colours (though still some vingette effect at the edges).
Attached is a shot from the same day, same place just at sunset.

Camera Scrambled

So the past few weeks I have been having issues with my camera on my rooted G1 (SuperD 193), and the problem existed before I flashed to super d (using cyanogen latest before). The camera kept going from looking normal to casting everything in a purple hue.
Now everything is scrambled, like old cable for a channel you didnt have.
Anyone else experience a problem similar to this? If I can get a picture up I will.

Did you wipe? If not, you should do it. Or do it even if you did before.

Tylerspilker said:
So the past few weeks I have been having issues with my camera on my rooted G1 (SuperD 193), and the problem existed before I flashed to super d (using cyanogen latest before). The camera kept going from looking normal to casting everything in a purple hue.
Now everything is scrambled, like old cable for a channel you didnt have.
Anyone else experience a problem similar to this? If I can get a picture up I will.
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Came from "complete eclair" to fasttest and got the same weird purple scrambled look.
I will put Bart from Complete eclair back and see what happens. I suspect the drivers are not getting wiped.

I put Complete eclair back and now it looks like crap to. I think the camera is borked.

Have the same problem. Its not the ROM its the actual phone. The Camera Lens and wiring is malfunctioning.

I find that if I take a few pictures the camera will go back to normal. I tried getting a scrambled pic last night, but it seems to only be doing the off-color hue thing. Now if I take a few photos, it will return to normal coloring.
Very strange.

Tylerspilker said:
I find that if I take a few pictures the camera will go back to normal. I tried getting a scrambled pic last night, but it seems to only be doing the off-color hue thing. Now if I take a few photos, it will return to normal coloring.
Very strange.
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Just took 20 pictures of my keyboard. No change. Found a thread on this from a few days a ago and it looks like the same problem. Why is all this hardware failing at the same time?

billquinn1 said:
Just took 20 pictures of my keyboard. No change. Found a thread on this from a few days a ago and it looks like the same problem. Why is all this hardware failing at the same time?
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I also took pictures out the window, then back inside. I wonder if the exposure adjustment might have helped?

Tylerspilker said:
I also took pictures out the window, then back inside. I wonder if the exposure adjustment might have helped?
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My camera is loading normal now... hmmmm good news! For the record, I never use my camera much, I am wondering if the sensor just needed some work

Tylerspilker said:
My camera is loading normal now... hmmmm good news! For the record, I never use my camera much, I am wondering if the sensor just needed some work
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Mine is still messed up. I called Tmob and set up to swap it out. I will have to figure out the un-root thing before I send it in. I have a month of warranty left and don't want to find out after that the camera just dies.

[Q] Broken camera?

Hi,
My camera shows a very clear lighter rectangle on every picture taken and also live in the viewfinder. It's very visible on darker or HDR shots and less on pics taken outside.
I posted an example picure below. It also seems to be related to the temperature of the phone (e.g. long in use or not). It looks like condense, but it's not because the shape is alway similar and it's been on every pic for a week now.
I'm very hesitant to send it in for repair since I just got it and don't want to wait weeks for the phone to return, but it's very annoying!
What is your opinion, can it be a software bug the will be fixed soon or is it a broken camera sensor? Have you ever seen something like this before (the repair guy from the shop didn;t...)?
Thanks.

Device fell down, camera strange now, sounds familiar, fixable?

My device fell down and now my camera misbehaves.
First all camera apps just crashed, screens black.
Then there were just still pictures, sometimes false color or just one color, like magenta all over the screen.
Sometimes picture split in strange ways, doubled and so on.
Now if I smack the phone with the top softly to some hard underground whilst the cam app is running the camera sometimes works.
Sounds if something is loose to me?
But I looked at disassembly on iFixit and I can not see any cables.
Is it fixable? What do you think?

DarsVaeda said:
My device fell down and now my camera misbehaves.
First all camera apps just crashed, screens black.
Then there were just still pictures, sometimes false color or just one color, like magenta all over the screen.
Sometimes picture split in strange ways, doubled and so on.
Now if I smack the phone with the top softly to some hard underground whilst the cam app is running the camera sometimes works.
Sounds if something is loose to me?
But I looked at disassembly on iFixit and I can not see any cables.
Is it fixable? What do you think?
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It is definetly fixable. HTC fixed mine, even tho i was running a custom rom, they didn't care. As for fixing it yourself: It has something to do with the logic board. I heard they could be quite expensive.

Yeah sure the manufactor could fix it, but I have no warranty left and might probably be expensive.
Thought more about fixing myself. Logic board...yep guess the cam sits on it and I have to exchange it.
Maybe not worth it too