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Hi all, i am stuck, i need the help of the experts in either saying my 2 Qtek 9100s are bricked - chuck them or, they are retreivable.
Here goes:
2 X Qtek 9100 made by T-mobile - emei if needed.
Both devices stuck on the boot screen, but will both go in to Tri colour screen for flashing, but fail flashing (with several roms), i think they have button rom, its a beer glass.
GSM: - 01.12.10
OS: - 1.5.4.2
ipl 1.01 and spl 2.24
Can these be revived?
Thanks.
A Wizard by T-Mobile is a "MDA Vario", you can't have a Qtek9100 by T-Mobile. Anyway..
Have you tried flashing official ROM while they are in bootloader mode (tri colour)? Does the flashing process went smoothly? Does the IPL/SPL change when you flash the latest ROM? Give more info.
More info
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.
lokidan said:
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.
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sounds like u didn't accomplish step 16 of 'the definitive guide to unlocking & rom upgrading G3 wizards' by Dr Puttingham.
both IPL AND SPL need to be the same
lokidan said:
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.
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what was the exact error.. post the code and error msg.
i got the same problem
ipl/spl 1.01
i tried "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE"
many many time but nothing
please help
bigfatjack said:
i got the same problem
ipl/spl 1.01
i tried "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE"
many many time but nothing
please help
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Since your ipl/spl are 1.xx just follow the sticky by Dr. P at the top of this forum. You will start at the step running lokiwiz as you don't have to downgrade. Then upgrade to an official 2.xx rom. After that you can flash a custom rom.
errors
Various error messages with various roms.
Invalid vendor
Invalid nkbf file
Upgrade only
I believe that these devices were upgraded by a user who perhaps did not fully unlock them.
Is it possible these devices would exhibit these error if they were flashed with a G4 rom, or would they just not boot if that was the case?
Thanks ALL
lokidan said:
Various error messages with various roms.
Invalid vendor
Invalid nkbf file
Upgrade only
I believe that these devices were upgraded by a user who perhaps did not fully unlock them.
Is it possible these devices would exhibit these error if they were flashed with a G4 rom, or would they just not boot if that was the case?
Thanks ALL
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Well, the only difference between a G4 and a G3 rom is that the G4 rom will not contain IPL/SPL. If you flashed a G4 rom in a G3 device you are fine. If you flashed a G3 rom into a G4 device then you have bricked your devices.
In your case you haven't finished the unlock/downgrade process. like mentioned above you seem to have missed step 16.
You need to re-flash the button rom to get both the IPL and SPL to 1.01. Once that is done then flash an OFFICIAL carrier rom (T-Mobile 2.26 suggested). When you have completed that then your IPL/SPL will both be 2.26. From THIS point you will be able to flash a custom rom, you will have no success until then. The unlocking guide that is stickied contains everything you need to recover from your situation.
The 2 steps that most newbies forget is to downgrade a second time to get IPL/SPL to 1.01 and after you are completely unlocked then upgrade to an official carrier rom that includes IPL/SPL (note this unlocking procedure is not for G4 devices -- doing this will brick them) Once your IPL/SPL are 2.xx THEN you can flash custom roms.
Unlocking them
Thanks ZZan, i think though i have actually blown the rom with button, but it does not bring the ipl/spl down to 1.01, it appears to blow the rom and complete 100% reboots and comes up with button Beer glass and goes no further.....
Err help?
lokidan said:
Thanks ZZan, i think though i have actually blown the rom with button, but it does not bring the ipl/spl down to 1.01, it appears to blow the rom and complete 100% reboots and comes up with button Beer glass and goes no further.....
Err help?
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Have you tried booting into bootloader and putting your carrier's latest rom back into it? I would suggest this. If all works and you can get completely back into the phone, you could try to unlock again starting from the beginning.
The only way you could have really hurt your device is if it was a G4 before you started, or interrupted the flash process while the bootloaders were being written. I don't think it would even boot up to that screen, or flash to 100% if this were the case though. It sounds like a bad flash from the first button attempt. I would suggest using a carrier rom from the carrier that the phone is locked to to get it back to working status. Once there then you can try to downgrade and unlock again.
Are they G3 or G4
How do i tell again, something to do with the ipl/spl revisions?
You can also try re-downloading the button rom and performing the downgrade again. I have the button rom in my sig. it's possible the rom may be damaged in some way.
G3 or G4.. from the wiki
A G3 Wizard will have the following
IPL: 1.xx or 2.xx or 2.xx.00x (Note that this version only has TWO 0's.).
SPL: 1.xx or 2.xx or 2.xx.00x (Note that this version only has TWO 0's.)
A G4 Wizard will have the following
IPL: 2.xx.000x (Note that this version has THREE 0's.)
SPL: 2.xx.000x (Note that this version has THREE 0's.)
button rom
Any ideas where i can get this rom from?
thanks.
Ignore me
just seen it on your footer
It flashes but....
it goes all the way through 100%, reboots and sits on rom boot screen exibiting:
IPL 1:01
SPL 2.24
GSM 01.12.10
os 1.5.4.2
And a nice picture of a beer glass....
Help, should i reflash again? i Have done it 3 times and it still sits on boot....
Thanks.
lokidan said:
it goes all the way through 100%, reboots and sits on rom boot screen exibiting:
IPL 1:01
SPL 2.24
GSM 01.12.10
os 1.5.4.2
And a nice picture of a beer glass....
Help, should i reflash again? i Have done it 3 times and it still sits on boot....
Thanks.
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You said your phone was a T-Mobile phone. Flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom and see if you can get it to finish booting. If so THEN you can retry the button rom. You are in a corrupt state right now. Whatever caused it, it doesn't look like the button rom is going to recover you from it. Flash the official carrier rom for your phone and get it back to working status first. Once you can use the device and phone then you can go back and start from the beginning of the unlocking thread.
T-mob original
I have tried T-mob original (RUU_Prodigy_2210206_22102109_021911_TMO_UK_WWE_Ship.exe)
[294] invalid vendor ID
I have tried t-mob (RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe) using NoVendorID and nk.nbf from above rom - Flashed 100% complete - rebooted - stuck on Button boot screen (beer Glass) and not booting.
Button itself will flash, with the same result, looks like its doing it then reboot, halt on beer glass.
I have i trully bricked these two? i cant have they flash and go to boot loader surely they would not do this if i had totally bricked them???
Help....
T-mob
Weird, it has upgraded the IPL to 1.06 (from 1.04) though, does this mean anything to anyone?
Can someone point me to an English version of this? The only one I can find linked on this site is http://rs25.rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar. This is in another language (Italian maybe) and I keep getting a "300" error. Thanks.
sdl said:
Can someone point me to an English version of this? The only one I can find linked on this site is http://rs25.rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar. This is in another language (Italian maybe) and I keep getting a "300" error. Thanks.
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Are you sure you have a G4 ?
No, I have a G3. But according to "How to flash a new ROM to your Wizard... a little tutorial!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613, if I have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx, I need the wizard_love rom. Read last sentence of G.2.
I used the button ROM. It brought my IPL down to 1.01, but my SPL is still 2.25. Is that OK to proceed?
Keep reflashing the button ROM until both your IPL and SPL are 1.xx. It may take a few times. I think I've read where it's taken some people as many as 7 or 8 times to get them both down. Be patient and make sure your battery is good and charged and when you get them both down, then run lokiwiz to unlock your phone.
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Keep reflashing the button ROM until both your IPL and SPL are 1.xx. It may take a few times. I think I've read where it's taken some people as many as 7 or 8 times to get them both down. Be patient and make sure your battery is good and charged and when you get them both down, then run lokiwiz to unlock your phone.
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After at least 15 flashes with button, still no luck. I started with Cingular 2.25.
The button I am using is CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.
My IPL is down to 1.01, but my SPL is still 2.25. How in the world do I get passed this?
It really sucks when you can't get past the first step .
P.S. Should the SIM be in the unit during the flash? I've tried it both ways.
Not sure if it matters if the sim in is in it or not, but make sure your SD card is out because that causes problems a lot of times. Here, download and try this, it is an IPL/SPL updater only. It has version 1.05 of both which might be able to bring your SPL down so you can unlock your phone.
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Not sure if it matters if the sim in is in it or not, but make sure your SD card is out because that causes problems a lot of times. Here, download and try this, it is an IPL/SPL updater only. It has version 1.05 of both which might be able to bring your SPL down so you can unlock your phone.
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Tried it several times. No luck, SPL still stuck at 2.25, but thanks for the help. Anyone else out there with this problem?
That's weird, usually it happens the other way around and people get their IPL stuck at 1.xx when they try to upgrade back to a 2.xx but the SPL upgrades without a problem. Since you already have the button ROM on there, go ahead and try and see if it will CID unlock for you. Run lokiwiz and see if it gives you any errors and if not, download and install Wizard Service Tools on to your computer and then run it and click the CID actions button to see if it tells you that your CID is unlocked. If it does then your safe to start upgrading. For some reason I have a feeling it might just work for you.
same here, got the cingular 8125 and flashed the rom. I can not get the spl down. I have 2.25 as well. ahhh what other rom should be good for a cid unlock
also i am on activesync as "guest" dont know if this matters
ctheodores said:
also i am on activesync as "guest" dont know if this matters
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That doesn't matter.
Try flashing Tmobile 2.26 then again the 1.05 Button ROM
From what i know the Wizard Love is only for G4 Users. G3 users should flash Tmobile stoc 2.26
not all g3 are the same!!
i have experienced the same with my g3 (IPL/SPL 2.18) when i tryed to downgrade the spl... ipl 1.05 and spl 2.18 still remain... just try to unlock spl with lokiwiz02b and relax... i tried to install tnt 5.0 23 times before i unlocked the spl... just read and apply this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
i downgraded and reupgraded my spl locked g3 (qtek 9100) in 45 minutes at the state of art...
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tnx to all people that try and try and try and teach us with his experience...
I have found that the SPL doesn't matter. Go ahead and run lokiwiz and you will be ok.
yeah i got throught just run lokiwiz02b cid unlock and then update to tmo rom
1-15. Done
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
when i try this I can't get the SPL to go back, IPL is fine, but i've tried 4 sucessive times, no chance..
I then tried this :-
Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me )
that went ok, and then I tried flashing roms, but the only one I can get to work is the Wizzard Love ROM.
I'd love to run WM6 but i can't, if i try the other ROMS they flash ok, but I just go back to the Wizzard ROM when it reloads
any ideas ?
very many thanks, Will
Will_Plaice said:
1-15. Done
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
when i try this I can't get the SPL to go back, IPL is fine, but i've tried 4 sucessive times, no chance..
I then tried this :-
Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me )
that went ok, and then I tried flashing roms, but the only one I can get to work is the Wizzard Love ROM.
I'd love to run WM6 but i can't, if i try the other ROMS they flash ok, but I just go back to the Wizzard ROM when it reloads
any ideas ?
very many thanks, Will
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"17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with."
'Now you SHOULD have a IPL and SPL of 2.26 to work with. If not, you screwed up! Don't attempt to install someone's hard work and ***** before you do these steps!'
EDIT for Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me
Well,
You missed the all important step 17,flashing the T-mobile 2.26,this cud have given you solid IPL/SPL 2.26 to work on,Instead opted for Edit to step 17,flashing 3.08.
Your device is not CID unlocked,download WST tool and check the status of your phone,
secondly you shudn't have upgraded your ipl/spl to 3.08,till you were sure your phone is cid unlock and both the ipl/spl are the same.
anyway download the wst tool to check your phone's status and post the report here,
bugger...
i tried another rom and am stuck in the bootloader...
i have 3.08 for IPL and SPL
I think the WST will not work from the bootloader (and i can't find it to download)
any further sugestions ?
I have tried both the t-mobile and button roms
tia will try not to do any more damage ;-)
Will_Plaice said:
bugger...
i tried another rom and am stuck in the bootloader...
i have 3.08 for IPL and SPL
I think the WST will not work from the bootloader (and i can't find it to download)
any further sugestions ?
I have tried both the t-mobile and button roms
tia will try not to do any more damage ;-)
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In this particular situation no rom will flash,the only option is to get the IPL/SPL back to 1.xx,only than you can unlock.
If you are in boot loader,try to flash buttons 1.05 again,if worked,ok. otherwise download the latest official rom from the carriers site and flash,it will work and bring back your phone in working status.then flash button's 1.05 to unlock with lokiwiz02b.
Are you having any sdcard in your phone,remove it,it'll help,sometimes sdcard freezes the boot loader,by removing it,boot loader mode is released,good luck
many thanks, i came across a IPL SPL 2.26 only ROM and this I managed to get to flash, and with your advise I now have WM6
thanks, Will
Will_Plaice said:
many thanks, i came across a IPL SPL 2.26 only ROM and this I managed to get to flash, and with your advise I now have WM6
thanks, Will
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THANKS
Glade it's up and running
I have a TMO MDA that was stuck at SPL 2.26 and now 3.08. I never had this problem before having successfully CID unlocked one TMO MDA and 2 AT&T 8125s in the past. I had the stuck SPL problem, but lokiwiz was able to CID unlock them anyway. This time lokiwiz2b doesn't work.
I have tried button ROM many times, Wizard Love, followed all the tutorials, and even tried flashing ROMs with IPL/SPL only and my SPL was stuck at 2.26 while IPL would change. I even made custom nbf files with nb2nbf and setting the CID as appropriate, but it made no difference so even having the correct CID in the nbf results in not being able to write to the flash. After messing around with it for about 8-hours, I got desperate thinking about once I flashed an 8125 to IPL/SPL 3.08 before unlocking it, and how its SPL was stuck at 3.08, but lokiwiz worked on it anyway. So as a last ditch effort, I updated to IPL/SPL to 3.08, reflashed button ROM, and tried lokiwiz. Nope, didn't work! So I think fine, I'll reflash TMO shipping ROM. I got an error "Upgrade Only, use a newer nbf". I had this problem with an 8125 before after flashing TNT whose OS was 6.0-something, but I downgraded to button ROM and could flash the OEM no prob, now it won't take the OEM and I'm on button 1.5.x. Weird! I tried other ROMs and no go. I am stuck on button ROM!
Anything else I can try? I'm guessing SPL won't downgrade, I actually thought about taking SPL 1.0x and hex-editing the version number to 3.09 or something like that so it can overwrite 3.08, but is there a checksum that needs to be computed?
Nevermind! I got an old version of lokiwiz to work. I don't know the "why" behind it, but here's what I did:
Remembering when I unlocked my other Wizards, I used lokiwiz on a Vista machine, I went back to the same Vista machine. It had the same old version of lokiwiz still on it. I tried that lokiwiz, and it was able to CID unlock my MDA that was stuck on SPL 3.08 and IPL 1.01. Now all is well. I don't know what version of lokiwiz it was, but it's an older one downloaded around October '07. I don't know if the machine being Vista is significant, but I doubt it.
So I guess if your SPL is stuck on too high of a version, use an older lokiwiz and it just might work!
ITS ALIVE!
GnatGoSplat said:
Nevermind! I got an old version of lokiwiz to work. I don't know the "why" behind it, but here's what I did:
Remembering when I unlocked my other Wizards, I used lokiwiz on a Vista machine, I went back to the same Vista machine. It had the same old version of lokiwiz still on it. I tried that lokiwiz, and it was able to CID unlock my MDA that was stuck on SPL 3.08 and IPL 1.01. Now all is well. I don't know what version of lokiwiz it was, but it's an older one downloaded around October '07. I don't know if the machine being Vista is significant, but I doubt it.
So I guess if your SPL is stuck on too high of a version, use an older lokiwiz and it just might work!
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I cant believe it.. IT WORKED! SPL @ 3.08 and i unlocked using lokiwiz .2b!! flashed the WM6 ROM and am happily lost in wonderland!!
Thanks man!
Z
p.s. somebody friggin sticky this!
That's pretty cool that you got 2b to work. I tried that version and it wouldn't work, I actually had to go older than 2b.
I know this thread has been dead for a while but this worked for me too lokiwiz .2b on a TMO MDA, that might give hope to someone else who's trying. I just had to redo the whole flash unlock dance about 4 times, but it finally worked. oh yea and Vista almost bricked the damn thing so i suggest doing the xp steps they seem to be more widely tested.
There's still another very fine option,in case its not possible to downgrade SPL to 1.xx and if its a mismatch.
"WST_2.2" tool has proved very successful in CID unlocking,but IPL 1.xx is eseential.
hi, i am downgrading my wizard for days now. i followed the guided by dr puttingham. but my SPL won't downgrade. i used the button ROM & even the wizard_love ROM for several times now. my IPL is now 1.01 but my SPL is still 3.08. my wizard is a G3
anyone pls help
thank you for your Assistance
Flash 2 Times in a Row the button Rom 1.05 and you'll get both ipl and spl 1.05.
Anyway (Since It is understood you are in the process Cid unlocking) if your IPL is 1.05 try the LokiWiz.
I Cid Unlocked having IPL 1.05 Spl 2.25.
Aldo
I thought it was
Flash 1.05; CID/SIM unlock; Flash 1.05; CID/SIM unlock again.
It's been so long
thanks for your reply. but i did both the cid unlocking using lokiwiz and tried lashing the ROM twice and it still doesn't work
there must be something you missed in the directions.
Youa have to run the lockwiz aplication twice also. one for sim one for cid. usualy when I have that type of problem it is starring me in the face and i cant see it. I recomend stepping away from it for a bit.
downgrade and unlock ipl/spl 2.16
hi,
got a g3 wizard from imate - imate k-jam. have been reading up on the various posts on flashing g3 devices.
on one of the posts thru wiki:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
i saw this "With your device connected to your computer as Guest, run the file that your downloaded. It's pretty much self-explanatory. Agree to everything, and let it do it's thing. It is downgrading your IPL to 1.05. You can only unlock your phone if the IPL is 1.xx, you can't do it if your IPL is 2.xx."
my worry is that my ipl is 2.xx
can i proceed with this? is there anyone who has successfully been able to do those steps on a device with 2.xx ?
Please advice.
Try This
I was having the same problem using button 1.05.Try using this rom The Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe. Find it in the tutorial and download.Then follow the instructions.