i know the specs are better but i was woundering if any one has tried bluetooth stereo on the kaiser on the hermes it works allright but the phone slows down to the point you cant use it. dose the kaiser handle it any better?
I use my stereo bluetooth headset with no slowdown.
mlekas said:
I use my stereo bluetooth headset with no slowdown.
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Hmmm. 'No slowdown'? I use stereo bluetooth headset daily also, and while the Kaiser is much quicker than the hermes, there is certainly some slowdown. YMMV
i'm using the sony dr-bt10cx stereo earbuds. there is occasional slow down (or speed up? barely notice it either way in comparison to my last 2 phones)during play, but it quickly goes back to normal speed
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I had slowdowns at the beginning but when I modified the bitpool value from 64 to 48 this problem disappeared, now ad2p is perfect.
I am using a sony headset (BT20NX)
Mine (Jabra 8010) slow down even with just listening to podcasts... where do you change the bidpool value ?
Second and most annoying is that after Bluetooth is switched off I need to go each time to the comms manager , click on the Headset Icon and active BT steroprofile again to get the sound on the BT Headset...
It does not happens automatically and even the manual describe that you need to do this .. very uncomfortable .
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Anyone else the same experience? Contrary to almost every other WM device I have used in the past, the voice sound quality both on BT headsets and on parrot carkits is way below par. It sounds thin and metallic.
When using the speaker on the device itself (held up to your ear) the quality is excellent, so to me there is a major flaw in the the BT implementation on the Kaiser. The x7500 sounds way better, so it's not the OS itself.
Finally, someone else with good hearing
I have exactly the same issue. Even it's tolerable but is some situations it's very hard to hear the other party. Doesn't matter what headset I am using - Nokia BH 900, Jabra JX10 2 or Jawbone - they all sound thin. I really hope that there is something in registry that can be changed to resolve this. Or maybe a different DLL. In fact, this is the only complain that I have about Kaiser. I've tried this suggestions but none of them worked unfortunately.
Increase Audiogateway capability:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway/Capability
(Dword:69)(Default is 37)
[I'm assuming this is a bitrate setting, but not sure how this differs from those above]
4-Change the Bluetooth channel from the default:
HKLM\Softare\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device
From there open the subfolders and find those labeled channel. The DWORD key value is the channel number. Change the number to something other than the default.
[i've only tested up to channel 7 because I'm not sure how many channels there are. This seems to have improved issues with interference and intermittent drops, but these issues seem to have more to do with where the device is in relation to the headphones than anything else. You'll have to experiment to see what works best with your gear and environment.]
5-Increase the Bluetooth microphone sensitivity:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Mic Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
6-Increase Bluetooth earpiece volume:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Spk Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
[again experiment to see what works best with your headset and environment]
Taken from http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7715
Ouch. Just came out of an escalation meeting for which I was forced to use the TyTN II for almost an hour over my Sony Ericsson HBH pv705 headset, and I have to rephrase my first post.
The audio quality is leaves not just a bit to be desired, it is just blatantly bad!
That, I feel, is the only *real* letdown of the TyTN II
Have exactly the same issue here. Was using it today in the car using the Mercedes bluetooth kit, and the sound was very thin and tinny. On my Hermes the sound was full and fine.
It's like listening to one of those shortwave type radios
OK. Now we have to determine is that :
Hardware issue
or
Software issue.
I've briefly used one of the preproduction units back in June and as far as I remember BT was OK. But I can't be sure 100%.
Anyone still using pre-pro units? Please, check how BT headset sounds like.
I really, really hope that this is software issue. Otherwise I am afraid that I am not going be able to keep the unit .
Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
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Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
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It's probably due the fact that car kit has already plenty of bass and stereo headset is using a2dp. My stereo BT headset sounds good as well.
Handset itself sounds good, wired handset sounds good. Again, I really hope that there is a way to change something in software that will fix this problem. i guess, we have to wait until device is in more hands and some hackers will find the way
In that case, my second addition to the mix to counter yours. Aside from my SE PV705 I also have a Parrot carkit (3200 LS-Color) and I have the same poor audio quality over bluetooth ...
bt
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
dhopeton said:
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
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Just damn! Flagship HTC device... It's better be software fixable.
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
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rakh1 said:
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
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We are not talking about stereo A2DP quality. Again, stereo BT sounds very good to me as well.
nono - this is simlpy the voice call quality through these headphones - not using the A2DPprotocol - just headset protocol.
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I use the Sony MEX-5000BT headunit in my car in handsfree mode. I've used it with both the Kaiser & Wizard, and I can't tell any difference in sound quality between the two phones in handsfree mode.
A2DP is a different story -- the Kaiser is much better.
I'm having the same BT issues with my phone. Voice quality on my original TyTN was great through BT. But with the TyTN II, it is sub par.
OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
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OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
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I have the same as above.
Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
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Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
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What type of device you have been using previously?
When you switch from handset to BT headset on the fly do you hear difference in voice quality? Doesn't seems like BT headset doesn't have the same frequency range as a handset?
Having Bluetooth "Handsfree" and A2DP connected at same time causing severe skipping
Hi....I know there are a lot of posts regarding skipping while playing MP3s over A2DP. My problem is perhaps a little bit different because I've narrowed my problem down to the handsfree bluetooth service.
Here's my situation with my unlocked HTC TyTN II using the stock HTC ROM and with no registiry modifications (bitpool, etc)
If I have only A2DP connected and streaming music to an external bluetooth receiver the MP3 playback is flawless. It sounds fantastic. I've tried Windows Media Player, PocketMusic, and PocketPlayer and they all work just great.
However, when I turn on my handsfree headset (which is a separate device from my A2DP receiver) and allow it to connect to my TyTN II, extreme stuttering immediately occurs through the A2DP music stream. When I shut off my handsfree headset the stuttering stops and the music stream returns to its usual fantastic sound. The problem can be replicated also by leaving the handsfree headset powered ON and simply enabling handsfree service on the HTC TyTN II to cause the stuttering to begin. The stuttering stops immediately when handsfree service is subsequently disabled.
Anyone else out their experience this? Any suggestions? For the time being I have to resort to disabling handsfree when streaming music to my A2DP bluetooth receiver.
Skipping/Cutting out/Speeding Up/Slowing down
Not much to add other than 'Me Too!' and thanks for tracking this down since i thought i was going nuts since I've had a couple of times where i thought i had it resolved only for it to crop up again.
Are you also experiencing your A2DP audio speeding up and slowing down along with the audio cutting out? since to me that is the most bizarre of all of the audio freakery going on.
I found my Logitech handsfree less likely to cause cut outs when on than my Jawbone does. but neither were trouble free.
Just an update for those that may experience the same problem as me. I've noticed that sometimes I have perfect audio even though I am connected to my handsfree car system while streaming music via A2DP. So this leads me to believe that bitpool settings and such are not the issue...since the perfect audio can occur with the default settings. I have also heard in other threads that flashing a new radio may help...but haven't gone to that measure yet.
What I have been able to determine is that this horrible skipping/stuttering occurs when my phone is changing cell phone towers.
That is, if
1) Streaming audio over bluetooth via A2DP
AND
2) Tytn II also connected to a handsfree device
then A2DP skips horribly when the phone needs to switch cell towers.
I have confirmed this by using the program PhoneAlarm to log the cell phone towers my phone is connected to. My A2DP stuttering/skipping problem coincides with every change in cell phone tower.
Now having said all this there is still one other factor that plays into it that I haven't quite figured out. If I soft reset my device and then immediately connect to my car and A2DP stereo then I do not get the stuttering problem when changing cell phone towers. However if I spend the day using the device, active-syncing and such at work, then on the drive home I will ALWAYS get the stuttering during every cell phone tower hand-over.
Frustrating. Anyway...hopefully I'll eventually figure out the last piece of the puzzle. I would rather not have to soft reset every time I get in my car just so that I can get good audio.
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Are you also experiencing your A2DP audio speeding up and slowing down along with the audio cutting out? since to me that is the most bizarre of all of the audio freakery going on.
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I do recall getting this behaviour when using Windows Media player...but I have started using the new Pocket Player and have since never experienced the audio slow down problem.
I found a work-around that works for me. It's posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1990783#post1990783
Yet another A2DP skipping problem
Rumball said:
I do recall getting this behaviour when using Windows Media player...but I have started using the new Pocket Player and have since never experienced the audio slow down problem.
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I seem to have related but a different problem with skipping.
I have both Sony and goldlantern BT headphones which i tried (stereo profile).
Both severely skip audio when located on the left side of my belt. Silly but the reception/skipping problems improves a GREAT deal when i move it to the right side. It works flawlessly inside of the building where i have no phone signal but outside -- it skips horribly, even worse after 6.1rom upgrade.
Can anyone confirm that the BT signal going through the body worsens skipping? If so, I assume the signal strength/BT/wireless channel may be at fault, not the tower switching as for me, it happens even when I stay stationary.
Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
TILT - R2 VEGA WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209.1.0.2) ROM
I think part of the problem can be the A2DP device as well. I had a pair ofr HT 820 older bluetooth headsets with A2DP that were skipping and annoying. I went out and bought some s9s and the problem went away. I figured just for a test I would try the HT820 out again, still skipping. So for me it was not the phone but the A2DP device.
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I think part of the problem can be the A2DP device as well. I had a pair ofr HT 820 older bluetooth headsets with A2DP that were skipping and annoying. I went out and bought some s9s and the problem went away. I figured just for a test I would try the HT820 out again, still skipping. So for me it was not the phone but the A2DP device.
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i thought that too but i have two different headsets from two different manufacturers, both are skipping the same...
A2DP requires a lot of the bandwidth Bluetooth can provide. Having a 2nd connection open simply exceeds what the Bluetooth chip can handle, no surprise in that. If the BT headset keeps the connection open it's very likely to happen.
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A2DP requires a lot of the bandwidth Bluetooth can provide. Having a 2nd connection open simply exceeds what the Bluetooth chip can handle, no surprise in that. If the BT headset keeps the connection open it's very likely to happen.
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what do you mean by a SECOND CONNECTION?
i have 2 different headsets because i thought that i have a poor headset, but both work similarly bad, which makes me think it is the tilt, not the headphones. i do not have 2 connections, never has it and not even sure if it is possible....
Lowering of bitrate did not help at all.....
Anyone have experienced these problems? anyone is using BT headset besides motorola s9?
On mine it does it when it picks up a wi-fi hotspot. When I'm driving the wi-fi is on when the screen is and whenever I pass a hot spot it drops out. Turning the wi-fi off solved it. Don't know if it does it with cell towers.
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what do you mean by a SECOND CONNECTION?
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The thread was initially about skipping when BOTH an A2DP stereo headset AND a BT handsfree were connected at the same time, as the title shows. I was commenting on that.
Other than this, when I want to listen to music I can leave the Kaiser in my room and walk around in my entire flat with the headphones on without skipping (around 10-15m straight line, with some walls).
However, Wifi must not be active and communicating, otherwise either / both of them will drop. If I'm using Wifi and start streaming audio via A2DP, the wifi will slow down a lot and sometimes disconnect. In the same way if Wifi is communicating the audio will skip. If both of them are active but one is idle everything's fine. But that's also normal as both share the same frequencies and will step on each other. When usage is low it's not noticeable but when both are using a lot of bandwidth then they will disturb each other.
The cell radio doesn't seem to cause any problems for me.
Hi all
I have never used an phone has an mp3 player up untill the diamond i really dont know why... now my problem, i have been using the wire headset that comes with the package it works awfull i really hate the cord it keeps messing up all over.. the other problem whenever i want to skip a music i have to turn on the diamond and select the next song, i tought on buying that htc accessory that has controls on it, seems nice, but i believe then the cord becomes huge.. so i tought on a2dp ( never used it actually) so i wonder wich ones work well with the diamond i mean not having to turn on the diamond to go forward on the song list.
thanks for all the good work, the diamond is a great phone but if it wasnt for XDA it would be a great phone with some annoying flaws.
I'm using GGBlue without any problems.
Using Motorola S805, works great!
Sound quality much better than with TD-headset. Full bass, warm sound.
Plantronics Pulsar 590 has been around a couple of years, but still seems to be one of the best stereo BT headsets on the market. Better sound quality, a decent mic for voice and works well with the Diamond. I broke my first set and just ordered another.
The looks aren't too svelte but I prefer the over the head kind than the behind the head because I find them much more comfortable when exercising.
I've been using a Jabra bt320s - supports the profiles you need, fairly decent sound, and nice n small. Lasts a long time on a single charge too.
Nice thing about it is that you can connect any headphones you want, as it has a 3.5mm stereo jack. So you're not limited to wearing a giant headset, and can use them at the gym.
I use the Sony DR BT 10 CX Bluetooth.
Great sound (incredible base), lasts over 8 hours at full blast. And it has no delay, so you can even watch movies in sync with the audio.
if you want it even smaller and be able to choose your own earphones, look at this one: Sony Ericsson HBH-DS220. though it doesn't last as long and has a little delay
i am using both motorola s9 and sonorix obh-0110. both are working fine.
jabra 320s. auto connects brilliantly once paired.
Hi, i have spent some time searching now and since i couldn't find this anywhere i decided to post here, hope someone can help me.
Recently, i bought the official sony playstation 3 bluetooth headset (http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Accessories/SCPH-98095) and i have connected it to my xperia x1 through bluetooth (running with itje's touch-it xperience v13.2), the problem is, it only outputs sound for the voice calls, i can't listen to music on it or the normal phone sounds. I know it would be mono sound and not high quality, but i would like to listen to the sound anyway sometimes because its better then leaving it silent.
i have tried in the bluetooth configuration window, clicking in advanced, editing the wireless device profile, thre it was marked hands-free, i clicked refresh and headset appeared, i marked it, then the headset disconnects. when i reconnect it, it auto demarks headset, or it doesnt connect.
I have looked around to see if it was the bluetooth headset problem, but i have not seen anyone else complaining about this or even mentioning it can't play the phone sounds (just some complains about the ps3 sounds not outputing but thats the ps3 fault), and i have also searched to see if it is x1s fault but haven't managed to find an answer as well, so if anyone can plz help i would really appreciate it. Thanks.
thats pretty much because its no BUG.
what u want is a a2dp headset. something tells me that the ps3 headset doesn has this feature. normal headset just route voice calls while a2dp headset route everything.
actually, i didnt use the word bug because i though that might be the case
it has the headset and handsfree profile, not a2dp, but what i wasnt sure if it really needed to have de a2dp profile to output normal sounds, from what i've read it seems it is needed to output stereo high quality sounds, but just sounds with low quality would work for me, thats why im asking, i though the headset profile would be enough for that.
so if i get your message right, unless it has specifically the a2dp profile, there is no other way of making the sound output on the headset, low or high quality?
now i know there might be a way to make it work.
i was listening to some music today using the music player that comes with touchflo 3d, then i pressed the talk button of my bluetooth headset to issue a voice command (with the microsoft voice command program), then the music started playing in my headset while it was waiting for the voice command, once it got the command the music went back to the phone.
Does anyone know any way to make my headset keep playing the sounds, or could at least explain what happens when i press the talk button so i have an idea of where to look to see if find a way?
no one can help me with this? not any tip or a way to select a different output for audio or anything like that?
Also an issue with Audio Gateway
I have tested this issue on two seperate headsets, and so far can get the Xperia to work ONLY as hands free. Seperate phones sperate headsets. The other phone pushed audio thru to the headset whereas the X1 only routes calls.
I also cant find much of this on XDA or anywhere else?
Help?
Regards
i used an ad2p software downloaded from here when i had this issue with my lg ks20. But i havent the gut or im just lazy to try this app on the x1. Maybe u should give that ad2p software a try.
Hi Folks!
Recently got a bluetooth FM transmitter so i can go hands free in the car and use phones music player too
However the audio is very heavily compressed when using A2DP - no bass and the top end frequencies turn to mush - ie not good enough to use
Checked all eq settings and different FM frequencies, no difference
plugged the analogue audio cable direct from the phone to the bluetooth FM transmitter and immediately got perfect sound again
I dont see many poeple talking about this on this forum or many answers but the closest seems to be windows phones can access and modify registry settings to check and increase the bitrate
My current thinking is the bitrate (or bitpool) over bluetooth A2DP is set too low, or when the phone and FM transmitter pair the phone selects a bitrate that's too low for quality audio (but ok for calls)
My question is does anyone know how modify the bitpool settings on the Galaxy S please?
I am going to get a custom ROM and will very happy when the phone is really mine so if that's what it takes I'm up for it
Many many thanks!
DJ LIBRE
Samsung Galaxy S
2.1.1 Eclair on 3 mobile network in the UK
Nexus Drive Transmit Pro (Bluetooth FM transmitter music and hands free car kit)
I have the Galaxy S on 3 UK since August. I use the bluetooth to transmit sound to my Samsung surround sound system (as I don't own a stereo). I don't notice significant quality issues doing this. Are you sure both your devices are supporting A2DP. Not all A2DP devices talking nicely with each other, so you may be failing back to the normal Bluetooth frequencies which are more focus of the vocal range. I'm looking a car stereo's right now that support A2DP so I can stream my audio from my phone straight to my stereo, my phone is becoming the centre of my entertainment!!
I'm running Doc's ROM on my phone, can't recommend moving to his Froyo ROM's and an enhanced kernel enough, my phone is working so much better with his ROM, but there are lots out there to choose from.
I am using A2DP in my car too and I find the sound quality being very good.
The thing is, the default Android audio player (Music Player) is pretty poor and often it lags for me.
Since I moved to MiuiMusic (Search here) all those lags are gone and it works perfectly and smoothly in my car.
Now, as pointed already to you, all BT devices do not communicate flawlessly between each other sometimes...
works great for me, streaming from the SGS to the car CZ 509 deck
i don't even carry CDs in my car anymore
even the lovely sub base sound comes through clearly.
nothing better like a Sonic Massage meanwhile you are driving
I wanted to create a new thread on this, but then I've seen this one. Is there no one with a solution except flashing cyanogen?
It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
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It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
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Hmm, i using Sony MW600 BT headphones. I've checked the manual, but there's nothing about quality :/
But i dont think that's the problem anyway, as i tried Cyanogenmod and it got perfect quality then. But otherwise cyanogen is quite useless for me on my Galaxy S, its just too buggy. There must be someone who can change the bitpool quality on the stock gingerbread to the highest possible...
Exact same issue for me (as described by DJ LIBRE), I have a Belkin Wireless Bluetooth Music Receiver and the sound quality is horid... it's got nothing on AirPlay which I think is still kind of average quality!
I also wonder if there is a highbitrate setting that can be adjusted?
Running CyanogenMod Nightly #130 on SGS.
After getting used to listening to 24/96 FLAC's with the Voodoo Sound mod enabled with a custom built headphone amp and semi decent can's all I can say is BT Audio is a waste of time!
Has anyone noticed whether the music player was set to 5.1 surround mode? Had a similar issue where turning off the 5.1 fixed the sound streaming...