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Apple has just slashed the iPhone's Price

Their partner, AT&T, has a 30 day return policy so all the smart folks who just spent $599 on a 8 gig iPhone will return it for...a $399 8 gig iPhone or...a Kaiser, which will do a bit more.
C'mon ATT. Let's get on with it!

I do not show this price reduction. I also called them and they are not aware of any such reduction.

DaddyGoFast said:
I do not show this price reduction. I also called them and they are not aware of any such reduction.
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Price reduction is real and all over the net ... check out the apple store online for confirmation

Dude....you're on a WindowsMobile forum in case you didn't notice...
Who could possibly even want an iPhone over here do ya think...?
dgduris said:
Their partner, AT&T, has a 30 day return policy so all the smart folks who just spent $599 on a 8 gig iPhone will return it for...a $399 8 gig iPhone or...a Kaiser, which will do a bit more.
C'mon ATT. Let's get on with it!
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Yup! Link: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP.../wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/iphone/iphone
Maybe AT&T thinks that iCrap should not be at the same level as AT&T Tilt and lowered it's price.

$400 for an iPhone with 8gigs of memory, while the Kaiser costs $900 and you have to go out and spend $50+ on a couple gigs of flash.
Is the iPhone subsidized or is HTC ripping us off???
Sorry, if that's a stupid question, not sure what the AT&T/Apple deal is...

jamijam said:
$400 for an iPhone with 8gigs of memory, while the Kaiser costs $900 and you have to go out and spend $50+ on a couple gigs of flash.
Is the iPhone subsidized or is HTC ripping us off???
Sorry, if that's a stupid question, not sure what the AT&T/Apple deal is...
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As per rumors, AT&T Tilt will be $499 with a two-year contract. $900 Kaiser is the price you are paying for an unlocked/unbranded phone. I bet if iPhone followed the same route, you'd be paying close to a grand for it as well.

I can't help but wonder if this iPhone price drop will change pricing on 8925 with ATT
$399 for an iPhone or $499 for a 8925 ? The teeming masses will want to go the iPhone route
DLD

What the f*$k does this have to do with the Kaiser?
The Kaiser is better than the iphone in EVERY way EXCEPT screen size.
Interface? Port it to the kaiser.
Youtube? Kaiser can do it.
Sliding unlock? Kaiser can do it.
GPS? You bet.
Revolutionary dial up internet? Kaiser has high speed.
Space? 8gb? *gasp* buy an 8gb sd card.
The iphone is crap. If anything buy that 16g modded iphone apple sells now. its the iphone without the phone! lucky you

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The Kaiser is better than the iphone in EVERY way EXCEPT screen size.
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I agree completely.
The teeming masses won't. $299 iPhone will cut in to 8925 sales for sure.

RacerX10 said:
I agree completely.
The teeming masses won't. $299 iPhone will cut in to 8925 sales for sure.
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Until the iPhone integrates well (and securely) with an exchange server, the corporate masses are going to stay with blackberry or a windows mobile device.

I already know 3 people who currently own an 8125 or an 8525 that are looking at an iPhone.
DLD

1. There is no $299 iPhone. The 4 GB model is axed.
2. This is germane because the non-geeks (the bulk of the market) don't live on fora, they live in the world of The New Yorker and the WSJ and MTV so, a ripple in the iPhone force field can be a boon to HTC sales especially once said iPhone customer figures out that a) the iPhone is a rip, b) they might want to send an MMS, c) downloading podcasts in the wild (w/o a dock) is a cool thing to be able to do, d) 3G is more faster than Edge v3...
So HTC need to push ATT to get this king into orbit now!

hehe anyone dropping a 3g 8525 for a iphone is just slightly insain. Futhermore anyone who is considering a kaiser wont even look twice at a Iphone for the simple fact as once you look at the 2 side by side its kaiser hands down. The price drop will affect more T-mobile kiddies useing the sidekick line and helio and there ocean.
Anyways I highly doubt this will affect the kaisers sales in the slightest.

Just read somewhere in engadget last night. One of the reason (speculation) why Apple slashed the price $200 cheaper, because Apple will introduce a new "European iPhone", which has (most probably) 3G and possibility to unlock (required by european law).
So, if the price is still $600, 3G iPhone will not be able to compete with WM if the price is $700 - $800.
That's why the US iPhone is now $400, and later the 3G iPhone will be, again $600.

Questions about buying TyTN II on China

Hi everyone!
I'm interested on buy this PDA, after a couple hours of search on the web I discover the alibaba(www.alibaba.com) it's also like ebay...So, i search on alibaba and found a lot of companies(most in china) solding HTC TyTN II.The company that maybe i choose to buy are Putian Hengwang Trade Co., Ltd.(http://hencan.en.alibaba.com/)there you will find a lot of mobile phones.I entered in contact with the sales manager and he told me the price of tytn II is $420 + $30 to send in Brazil.
Has anyone with some experience on buy products from chinaa?About this Company?Can I trust on her?Any information will be helpfull
I'm so crazy on buy the TyTN II, but my ded will not let me buy on expansys +-$800 + 60% of taxes
Thanks!!

Certainly does NOT look like a company I would trust.

I wouldn't trust that company... I mean, look at their "Products" section... they're selling shoes, jackets and handbags along with the phones and mp3 players. Don't get lured by a cheap price.

Don't do it, my friend bought a FAKE Samsung i718 from one of those companies (found on Alibaba)

well, i think think and think and i will buy htc tilt, its the same of tytn II but it doesn't have the frontal camera. on ebay i found +- $500,00. On the begining fo March I will put my hand on tilt!!!!
Thanks to asking my questions!!!!!!!!

Resist the temptation to buy the HTC's in China. There are too many copy-cat and "lost in production" items.
And do not forget that you do not buy a PSP or PMP if you want to use it for watching movies (untill a fix is out)
Good luck

afaik, HTC is still called Dopod here. I am working somewhere near Shanghai and none of my friend recognize the HTC on my kaiser until I told them it's same as Dopod.

Sure that you only want the TyTN II but not an at&t Tilt? You intend to make/receive a lot of video calls? If not, go ebay for Tilt and you'll save bunch of money over TyTN II. In additional, discuss w/ sellers if (s)he can declare it as a GIFT to void the import tax. 60% is highway robberries!
Funnies thought a bout China website.
Where the heck are Forty Thieves? Does it sell stuffs from thieves? That's really ridiculous name even though it's very popular in China and its CEO wants to beat google. Goodluck to another day-dreamer! LOL

Where to buy this phone (s730) at low price??

I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!

goolpone said:
I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
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http://www.katshing.se/prod/prod.asp?aid=15307&ref=prisjakt 3 599 SEK = 545,34 $ = 374,82 €

@goolpone: It also depends on where do you come from: Africa, Asia, Usa, Europe? ;-)

geaerally? eBay my friend.

I'm italian, is there any body who want to sell his/her s730?.. i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..

I found many people selling it through "second hand" stores in our country. Try to do the same with google focused on your country area with keywords / sell HTC s730 price / of course in your native language (sell, price).

goolpone said:
i need 2 devices for $500/$520..
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So you want someone to sell you 2 phones that retail for around $500-550 new for the price of one? The European model has only been out for a few months and AFAIK not picked up by networks yet.
I think you need to either set your price higher or wait for network upgrades to filter on the market. It's when people get 'free' or heavily subsidised phones they don't need that second-hand deals start becoming attractive.
But good luck!

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i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
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Sure hope thats each, unless someone got theirs for free no one would sell two for what they payed for one, and if it was a pre - prod unit...

but there are not carreer like vodafone, o2, cingular that sell it for a contract? and sameone that coul resell it? i know it's possible and yet done

Did you try my recommendation? I found the second hand phones (one month old = warranty) on 500 dollars level in CZ. I think that in your country you will find the same. There are many people disillusioned by RAM, ATI drivers, GPS lacks.

For a new phone such as this, you'd perhaps be better off trying on ebay

Do not forget that price on ebay is sometimes "penalized" by paying also the TAX and VAT to your custom.

My S730 is brandnew and im already so fed up with it.
Im going to sell it on ebay in the comming days.
I will also post the link to the auction on this forum for you to use.

It means that you are not satisfied by s730 and you will switch to different producer? As f.e. jocky.d? If yes, I have some favorites.

share your favorites then roomish....as I too am getting annoyed with my S730 and ebay is calling

It is so pitty - S730 could be so cool smartphone.
Well my favorites:
Asus P750 - although it has only 64MB - the free memory is about 20MB, the phone is handy sized
iPAQ 614c - very cheap, little bigger
I-mate 8502 - qwerty keyboard
All models are on the market only few days.

I've only had this thing since last week and I think I'm going to return it. The memory leak is horrible, not to mention there isn't enough of it to begin with. If I browse to a non-mobile url using IE, the browser closes since there isn't enough memory! The keyboard is slow and if I type fast, misses letters and I have to go back. A few times I have placed calls and they route through the speaker phone even though I haven't activated it and the entire phone locks up. Don't buy this phone, it sucks. I should have bought a Tytn II, at least then I would have working GPS.

I was after something a little smaller but with features.....
I liked the size of my old C600 but obviously you get more the bigger you get :s
and does anyone want to buy an S730?

4sale HTC S730
HTC S730 for sale.
12 month old contract is running out (I am changing the company I am working for)- fully working with 2GB SD Card
VB 220€
[email protected]
Was bought in October 2007. There is still 1 year garantie on it till October 2008.
Sold for 284,38. Thanks

12 months old? It must be preproduction model!?

How much is a Vodafone branded Kaiser worth?

Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks

Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.

Jozer99 said:
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.

Anymore opinions?

You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...

-IK- said:
Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!

flashy said:
That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case

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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.

flashy said:
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.

selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
or
have a look at the glofish 800 series

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