From another thread. This is the biggest problem with the phone.
1- I installed the WM6 threaded text (i have to have that) so now sometimes when i get texts, it vibrates and makes the sound i chose. even though vibrate is off in the notifications. EVEN if the phone is set to silent i still get a vibrate on the incoming text.
here is what else we found
"From all the searching i have done on various boards with this threaded SMS app it appears this is a well known bug. If you reset the audio profile it does not buzz until you slide the keyboard out at least once during a session, then it vibrates from then on. If anyone comes across a bug fix or a "most recent" version that does not suffer this for Kaiser TYTN II than I would be pleased to know." dakotadave
Please help. I am waiting on Cody from one of the other forums, who actually created the SMS threaded app.
this seems to be only a wm6 thing since the same app didn't do it on wm5 devices. it seems to happen on all wm6 devices so far.
what I have don't that I think has stoped it is I have my "sliding sound" disabled. I don't know if this is a forsure fix or not, but I don't remember getting the vibe for a long time now.
give it a try. maybe it is the fix. maybe it will just stop some of them.
I don't know.
cody
codyppc said:
this seems to be only a wm6 thing since the same app didn't do it on wm5 devices. it seems to happen on all wm6 devices so far.
what I have don't that I think has stoped it is I have my "sliding sound" disabled. I don't know if this is a forsure fix or not, but I don't remember getting the vibe for a long time now.
give it a try. maybe it is the fix. maybe it will just stop some of them.
I don't know.
cody
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I do have the sliding sound disabled. I also have the unit on silent and still get it.
I did this
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379
to get threaded sms
but i did NOT go past #11. There was no file on the phone named palm messaging.
But i did delete "poutlook"
that thread is NOT FOR WM6 DEVICES. that was for pre aku 2.3 devices like the treo 700 w/wx. I posted a new thread on that same site saying that. the WM6 devices have a one step cab install. there is no need to remove poutlook from the startup folder cause it is not there.
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I installed the Palm thread app ripped from WM6 device board and everything works except sending MMS I keep getting out of memory errors. I made sure that the pic is under 300k but as soon as I hit Send I get the message. I'm with cingular/at&t. I have searched regarding this but I noticed that for some people it works fine and other not so its hit or miss. But I wanted to know if anyone else has tried to use this on there kaiser.
Thanks
i tried it and no, you cant send any MMS's (I tried some of the other varients found elsewhere on this forum but none work better). In fact I found that this app had knock on problems all over my TYTN II and slowed down the machine considerably. Since this isnt an app you can just remove I had to do a hard reset.
Thanks for the reply hopefully someone figures out a fix for the slowness and mms not working on the tytn II
No one else has tried Palm threading app on there Keiser yet? and has mms working with AT&T??
I too tried it on my Kaiser and could not get the mms to work no matter what size file I tried, it would give me the memory error. I was able to uninstall it through the add/remove programs though and not have to do a hard reset.
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I too tried it on my Kaiser and could not get the mms to work no matter what size file I tried, it would give me the memory error. I was able to uninstall it through the add/remove programs though and not have to do a hard reset.
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I am experiencing the same. Luckily I don't use MMS very much so if I absolutely need it I can Uninstall Threaded SMS and fetch the incoming MMS then re-install threaded sms. I had same issue with Cingular 8525..Too bad, this is the best threaded sms app out there to me. I can't understand why they haven't built a threaded sms app that comes pre-installed. So basic. Everyone uses SMS. What are they thinking?
any updates on this one yet? I miss my threaded SMS/MMS
**** it doesnt work for me either
****ing BS...please shogun mark, HELP!!!
i wanna stress how important this app is to me.....i was sooo ****ing excited to go from 8525 to kaiser. this actually almost makes me wanna go back.... even though the kaiser is soooooo much sweeter. im beggiing someone to please please work on a fix for this!! please
has anyonetried setting up theconnection settings by hand in the Palm app? I always did myself and it works great
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has anyonetried setting up theconnection settings by hand in the Palm app? I always did myself and it works great
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Which version of Palm threading app are you using?? I have tried to setup the correct settings for the ATT mms part and still as soon as I try to send a mms i get the "out of memory error"
if anyone gets it to work they are brilliant...i have the shogunmark version from windows mobile 6
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It is a known bug in the app. Just be thankful we have what we have. To better understand, go here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=621
Works for me. The Shogun version thats circulated around doesnt work. You need the full version. Do a search and you might find it. THe problems are the same on most WM6 devices, and not just the Kaiser.
P.S. Some f-in patience might make people actually want to help you. 6 posts, half dropping F bombs doesn't endear you to the community.
Temporary Fix
Well this is what I do to have palm threading and MMS working on my Tilt witch is something I have asked before but haven't gotten an answer but this is my crazy hack or whatever you want to call it.
My theory was well since the MMS portion for Palm threading is out of the question regarding a fix from what I have been reading about. I asked before If after you install palm threading is there away to enable again the default MMS application that came with the phone like that giving you the option to use palm threading for Txt's and sending MMS' to be sent by the default application witch i like better.
I have the files but I dont know where to upload them too but if someone can post them up I will send it to them.
Basically I managed to get me the cab installation of Arcsoft MMS composer ver 4.0.21.28 .. I noticed that tilt has a new version 4.0.3.?? anyways so basically this is what I did..
1) install Palm threading application - reboot device
2) Install Arcsoft MMS application - reboot Device
3) Install EnableMMS.cab - Reboot
4) Re-apply ATT MMS cab configuration so that MMS gets configured
Now when I press on the email key I get the option to compose a MMS and I can receive them fine..
Like i said this is something I just tried for the heck of it and it worked but I dont guaranteed it will work for everyone. I have tried this on the Tytn II and now I just received my Tilt and it works good.
If there was a way to just re-enable the MMS portion I think there wouldnt need to install the slightly older version of arcsoft composer viewer but I havent able to figure it out..
PS. I tried uploading the zip files but it keeps telling upload of file failed..
Can you e-mail me those files, please.
Hi, is someone able to upload these files somewhere?......thanks in advance
ok here they are.. Let me know if they work for you
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Thanks doug0365, i will have to do a full backup first on my kaiser before i install the files......its missing the threadersms.cab though....but thats ok i found the file in the kaiser forum.......will report back later today of the outcome.....thanks again.
Does anyone know if there is a cure for what i've found to be my one MAJOR gripe with this fantastic phone.
Why when I type an SMS text message is the phone SO unresponsive? As soon as I start typing the phone is already behind my keypad pushes.
There are seconds between each push and the text appearing on the screen, it's quite regular that I type a few words of a sentence and by the end I have to wait ten seconds for everything to catch up.
I just dont understand why this phone should struggle with such a basic operation. Any ideas?
Yeah mine does the same thing. Thats the ONLY problem I have. THe one workaround i have seen is to close my messaging app once in a while. I always leave it minimized, but have found if I force it closed once in a while, it seems a little more responsive.
yes, i have the same issue from time to time. I regularly close the messaging app and also regularly reboot the device, but it doesn't make any difference that i have noticed...
Have you tried turning off the word completion option? Should be in Settings > Input, that may help but I'm not having that issue so I can't say for sure.
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
jbmorales said:
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
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Well, i'm using a stock ROM and ... despite seeing a drastic improvement by turning off the auto-complete word option, this seems absurd that the only fix for this problem is to turn off a feature of the phone's texting system.
Surely there is something wrong with the phone or the ROM's that they come custom installed with for this to be the case.
I just cannot see why the only fix for this is to turn off a feature, i'm most disappointed with HTC and/or TMobile depending on who is to blame.
I'm using Duttys Dualtouch 2 ROM and had the lag issue because of the xt9 application. There's a cab called "xt9disable" that fixed the lag. The stock ROM may not have the xt9 applications, but maybe there are some registry tweaks in the cab that may help...
NoKeR said:
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
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xt9 disable
There ya go.
Well I am going to try the xt9disable, and see if it works for me too. I notice the lag when typing a text message, and also when typing in Goodlink mobile messaging. So it doesn't seem to be software specific, its definately a device or OS thing.
You're probably not interested but i don't experience this issue. I've got a UK version Kaiser with stock ROM, not many apps installed (other than HTC Album, HTC Camera, a few games, Opera Mini 4 (can't wait till opera Mobile 9 ) and a few others). And whether Auto-complete is on or off i don't experience any lag.
Mods forgive me or move this if i put it in the wrong place
Why are all the kaiser roms with JOINED MMS
I hate the joined MMS/SMS
And no matter what i do I cant get them to seperate
Is there a specific path to take with kaiser roms
on my hermes i could just install a cab i have for SPLIT MMS
it does nothing on my kaiser
**Someone HELP Please**
i have been all through the boards searching for how to fix
but only thing i fund was that Dutty's old rom had split mms
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
tramane said:
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
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Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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read the post above you, it does work, though personally i like them combined.
scotchua said:
Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
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No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
tramane said:
No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
tramane said:
Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
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Well I'd really assume it's just because everyone is porting stuff from the diamond/xperia/omnia/raphael and all those are only wm6.1.
Also nobody wants to cook something old when there's something new. Plus they did add some enhancements related to screen rotation...mostly it's just the new and shiny thing...i never used wm6.0 much so i don't know.
Hi People,
I just upgrade from 6.1 tot 6.5 (EnergyRom). I like it this far. There is only one little thingy:
I've searched around.. how do i disable Threaded SMS future? The energy rom is packed with software that claims to do it, but it doesn't. The Advanced Config Tool does not, and editing the regkey manual doesn't work either.
Any ideas?
I really think threaded sms display future isn't clear. Just to many info on one little screen.
Leon
Dont ask: it does work, somehow..
Ive been fuddling around all night with this option, and only looking at XDA dev already helped ;-)
What did i do wrong..? Don't know.. will try some switching again, tomorrow.
Okay i figured it out.
When i hit replay, straight from the TF3D panel, it launches the SMS editor in threading mode.
When i hit "all messages" first, open an sms message there, and hit reply, it launches the classic editor.
Does any else experience this or know how to change/edit this?
ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
Welcom to the WM 6.1 'upgrade'
Although I've never had a Tilt (mines just the HTC version of a TyTN II), some of the issues you describe were problems I'd found with the default HTC 6.1 upgrade. Sometimes what people expect to be an improvement because it's newer, isn't necessarily better. If you want to go back to how it was, read up the Wiki here at xda-dev which will tell you how you can flash back to the original WM 6.0 setup (or perhaps you may prefer the slightly newer but still WM 6.0, 1.62 series ROM referred to here ).
ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one. i know that everyone has their preference but again...im new. I dig the black theme and the threaded SMS is a must have. i also like the kaiser tweak....does any one have a file for threaded SMS if i decide to go back to 6.0
Maybe something about it in the wiki
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ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one.
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No, no-one has ever had any luck with a cooked (or customised) ROM... But seriously if you want to know which is best it will depend what you want it to do and even then asking which is best is frowned upon here at xda-dev (because it can cause flame wars so it's a no-no). What most people do is try them and see. I've tried a few and always ended up going back to stock to get fast GPS. Have a search for threaded SMS - I don't recall if that's possible under WM 6.0 but maybe there's a cab around. Have a good read in the wiki section as well -there's lots of usefull info in there. I hardly ever use sms so what I have is good enough for my needs.
Check out Solace v3.1,
looks pretty spiffy if you ask me. Finger-friendly as well.
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ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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Well I'm not sure if you have tried that or not but, did you check your memory?? like is you mobile memory or even your memory card full or kind of full?? that really makes the mobile sooooooo slow and boring specially if you have an 8GB almost full memory card. One more thing, it's better if you close the word completion option as i had a problem before that the mobile had saved too many entries that it reached a limit were each time i try to write a msg it just freezes the whole mobile and that problem wasn't solved except when i stopped the word completion
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ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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for the bold part in the quote above, disable cleartype in landscape...the functionality is broken in most combinations of video drivers with WM6.1 on the kaiser.