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when willT Mob UK start the 'web specials' i.e. better deals than now?

Because the blody website still has it as a coming soon.
are they asleep or what - the buffoons!
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Well they now show it in the upgrade pages at £269!! I was quoted £220 to remain on my half price web'n'walk for life costing me £16 per month. The T-mobile guy tried to offer the phone for £80 but at a flext35+wnw costing £37.5 per month for 12months. Basically, if I can't get the phone for less than £150 on a tariff of no more than £27/month, I'll pay the £220. Afterall SIM free it'll cost £450 or so..

wonder what i can get now then - i was offered wnw+, flext 35 for 37 quid, with 18 months and £80 to pay.
the buggers!
I am gonna cave in soon!

Well the T-mobile guy is supposed to be ringing me back Friday 'cos I asked about the October 25% discounts - he said the cost for the Vario III handset should be available by then - he basically said he would match a new customer price..

managed to get em to throw in free weekend calls!

To all of you signing up on Orange contracts

To all of you jumping into bed with Orange for the HTC diamond.. doesnt the 18 month contract bother you?

Slightly, but it's worth it as I'm effectively paying 20 pounds a month with the rebates giving a total of £365 for the phone, 600 mins, unlimited texts and 500mb over 18 months. That's a great deal.
It's only a problem if you want to buy a new phone every year and want to keep your phone number.

I was on an 18 month contract with T-Mobile previously, so it's no different. I can't really justify spending more just to be able to upgrade my handset earlier. (In fact, it was pretty hard to talk myself into getting a Diamond rather than just keeping my TyTn and going for the cheap tariff T-Mobile offered me when I asked for my PAC code!)

There is a motive for me asking this.. i'll tell you why.
I signed up for a 12 month Combi 35 + web and walk T mobile contract. That gets me 500 mins, 350 txts and unlimited net for £42.50 a month.
T mobile have said that if I change my contract to 18 months, I can get 700 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited net (web n walk) and combi 30 price promise for £30 a month.
Im still scratching my head - which should I go for? Reduced amount per month or freedom 6 months earlier?

Not at all. £20pm for a contract with unlimited browsing...
...and I twisted there arm to also chuck in free home broadband, how can I possibly go wrong with that?
Granted the broadband is not the quickest, but plenty fast enough for home use.

go for it, it will make tmo happy and will make you happy (in the wallet).
especially so as i can't forsee any major releases far superior to the diamond within the next 12 months. i'm not sure when winmo 7 will be released though.

feridoun said:
go for it, it will make tmo happy and will make you happy (in the wallet).
especially so as i can't forsee any major releases far superior to the diamond within the next 12 months. i'm not sure when winmo 7 will be released though.
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Thank you.
Other opinions are welcome please..

darthbane2k said:
Im still scratching my head - which should I go for? Reduced amount per month or freedom 6 months earlier?
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Think about it this way - you pay around £500 for the contact regardless of whether it's 12 or 18 months, so go for the 18-month contract.
If you were really desperate to upgrade after 12 months, you could just take out a second contract, and it wouldn't cost you any more.

njpollard said:
If you were really desperate to upgrade after 12 months, you could just take out a second contract, and it wouldn't cost you any more.
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How wouldn't it cost you any more, though it would cost extra to take on a second contract

feridoun said:
It's only a problem if you want to buy a new phone every year and want to keep your phone number.
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allow me to brag. in my sunny and "peaceful" country the goverment did find the time to oblige by low all 3 tlf companies to make it possible for the consumer to move from one another with the same prefix+number. now the contracts are for a max 18 month and i can squeeze to even less by threaten that i'll change my supplier. the change can be done on the spot and is effective in minutes! if there is a fee for braking the contract the new supplier is sometimes (sales)offering to pay it for you if you'll only sign with his comp.

Radeon123 said:
How wouldn't it cost you any more, though it would cost extra to take on a second contract
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What he's getting at is that the majority of what you pay for in your phone contract isn't for the minutes/texts/whatever, it's the phone itself.
For example, a phone that's £150 with a a 12months x £30/month contract will be given away free on an 18months x £30/month contract.
The 12 months contract will cost you (12x30)+150= £510 over the life of the contract.
The 18 months contract will cost you (18x30)= £540 over the life of the contract.
The last half year of the 18 month contract is effectively costing you £30. Get a new phone after 12 months, you're £30 out of pocket compared to the 12 month contract. From the 13th month onwards, you're actually better off.

So is the general concensus that I should take the 18 month deal?

18 months all the way... If you are really so fed up with your device after 12 months, sim unlock it and sell it on ebay. Buy a sim free new device, then six months later either flog the simfree on ebay when you get an upgrade, or flog the pgrade if you like your sim free device.
Net result, very cheap deals on airtime etc.

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How wouldn't it cost you any more, though it would cost extra to take on a second contract
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Sorry - not being very clear.
If you take the 18 month contract, chuck your phone in the bin after 12 months, it's cost you £360 so far, plus you'll have another £180 to pay over the remaining 6 months - total £540. The 12 month contract would have cost you £510, saving just £30 - i.e. there's not much difference.
However, with the 18 month contract, if you do decide there's nothing you want to upgrade to in 12 months time and you don't mind hanging on, it's a LOT cheaper than the 12 month contract.

njpollard said:
Sorry - not being very clear.
If you take the 18 month contract, chuck your phone in the bin after 12 months, it's cost you £360 so far, plus you'll have another £180 to pay over the remaining 6 months - total £540. The 12 month contract would have cost you £510, saving just £30 - i.e. there's not much difference.
However, with the 18 month contract, if you do decide there's nothing you want to upgrade to in 12 months time and you don't mind hanging on, it's a LOT cheaper than the 12 month contract.
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Spot on there mate. I second that.

12month on dolphin 40 with £160 cashback..free diamond
hi..
first post!
i got a Diamond through buymobilephones.net
free handset on dolphin 40...12month contract and £160 cashback.
£320 for the yr ...not a bad deal i'd say...

boberto1975 said:
hi..
first post!
i got a Diamond through buymobilephones.net
free handset on dolphin 40...12month contract and £160 cashback.
£320 for the yr ...not a bad deal i'd say...
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Didn't think you got the unlimited browsing on the 12month-ers with Orange

I was like you when i got my XDA Orbit (Artemis). I'm glad i did. I still love my Orbit even though i just got the Diamond on 18months direct from Orange.
£30 over 18months = £540. The Diamond to buy is £400+ no to mention the £15 or £20 credit each month. so £540 + £360 = £900!
So to buy the Diamond and go PAYG isn't by any way cheaper than 'Contracting' it.
I'd defo go for the 18month deal. If you love you phone and like customising it....go for it!
There are loadsa ROMs for the Artemis and no doubt they will come out for the Diamond in time. Its like having a new phone when you flash a new ROM anyways!
GO FOR IT! Unlimited texts...unlimited web browsing?? Why the hell not! :-D

£175 cashback via quidco (UK)

Apologies if this sounds a bit spammy but it is a cool deal for the UK. Log on to Quidco (cashback site) and you can order a diamond very cheap untii the 24th july, Mine will hopefully arrive tomorrow, so a restless night for me. To add to the £175 cashback you get 11 months half price and I think, though it isn't clear on the website unlimited data: http://www.quidco.com/mobiles-utilities/phones-4u/
Again sorry for spammy looking thread, I am just so excited to be getting a diamond for what averages less than £18 pm, Orange Dolphin 35. Farewell beloved artemis.

Is there anything as well as the £175? because Mobiles2yourdoor give £210 in cashback on top of quidco. Its not in one lump sum, but it makes it work out at £20/month too.
How did you work out £20 with only £175 cashback? on an 18m contract thats a lot more than £18/month...

£18.47p/m over 18 months.
Sorry I think I may have slightly miscalculated a little (god bless my "O" level maths), on reflection, 11 months half price= 11 x £17.75=£192.5, + 9 months @ £35 =£192.5+£315= £507, -£175(cashback)= £332.5. £332.5/18= £18.47p/m. I hope I got that right because my diamond should come in the morning and at the moment I've been paying £20+ p/m for a sim only deal on my orbit from O2 with a lot less mins and less texts and NO DATA! But actually I just don't care as long as I get a diamond (lust,lust). I guess I am a bit of a mug!
Dolphin 35 = £35p/m, orange website says unlimited web browsing on that + 600 mins any network, unlimited landline + more texts p/m than I use in a year. I hate trying to figure out a good deal, I know I'm paying far too much for my ****ty talktalk broadband as well! wtf.

I went with m2yd via quidco - Dolphin £35 /pm, £55 quidco cashback plus £210 cashback over 18 months - this worked out at £20.28/m
Your deal is only £19.26 cheaper over 18 months
And yet you get £175 cashback from quidco (£125 more than me) and your p4u cashback is £17.50 less than me - so in theory you should be £107.50 better off - so where has the other £88.24 gone?

uniqueboy said:
Sorry I think I may have slightly miscalculated a little (god bless my "O" level maths), on reflection, 11 months half price= 11 x £17.75=£192.5, + 9 months @ £35 =£192.5+£315= £507, -£175(cashback)= £332.5. £332.5/18= £18.47p/m. I hope I got that right because my diamond should come in the morning and at the moment I've been paying £20+ p/m for a sim only deal on my orbit from O2 with a lot less mins and less texts and NO DATA! But actually I just don't care as long as I get a diamond (lust,lust). I guess I am a bit of a mug!
Dolphin 35 = £35p/m, orange website says unlimited web browsing on that + 600 mins any network, unlimited landline + more texts p/m than I use in a year. I hate trying to figure out a good deal, I know I'm paying far too much for my ****ty talktalk broadband as well! wtf.
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You are saying 11 months + 9 months. It will actually just be 11 months + 7 months surely.
Therefore: 192.5 + 245 = 437.50.
This then means: 337.50 - 175 = 262.50.
That is £14.58 a month.
That is cheap, but P4U can be dodgy. Like my first Diamond was faulty, Orange replaced it the very next day. (I phoned them at 5.30pm, phone was in my hands at 10am the next day). I doubt P4U would give the same service. Just a warning. Plus, when I enquired about buying through P4U, the guy on the phone said I would only receive 250MB a month, not 500MB. Might be worth looking into while you are still in cancellation period.

Oh, and should probably warn you, I've heard getting your cashback from both P4U and M2YD can be hell. Send everything recorded or special delivery, and take a copy of everything you send. Phone them to confirm receipt etc. Keep on top of it basically. If I remember correctly, if you miss one 'rebate', all future ones are lost too?
Personally I think the best deal was over the weekend just gone. £150 Quidco from Orange (which was a limited offer), and then Dolphin 35 at £30 a month. Worked out at about £21 a month.

I don't think the quidco offer of £175 has any additional half price line rental cashback, so in effect its just 35*18= 630 - 175 =566/18 = £25.27/month.
Not quite as good as mobiles 2 your door but no need to bother with cashback claims I guess. Its still pretty good, when the N95 was released it was never as heavily subsidised as the diamond is at the moment.

I did wonder if that would actually be the case, as £15 seemed very cheap. That is only £270 total for 18 months! I think your figure of £25 is accurate. Having just gone through Quidco and proceeded through to the checkout on P4U it seems that the initial £175 is all you would get. Personally I am kicking myself for ordering 2 days before Orange's weekend offer came online. Lost £100 by being so keen to get a Diamond. Lesson learned.
To reiterate, it looks like £25 a month, with possibly less or no data included, and a poorer service perhaps. Might be worth reconsidering your purchase.

remember you have distance selling or 'cooling off' as some like to call it since you ordered online. So if you don't like those numbers you can cancel and return it. You'll probably need to pay for postage tho (ONLY if they stated that when you purchased, if they didn't you don't have to pay anything, and actually have 3 months to send it back lol)

Immediately after ordering online I phoned P4U and the "kind" person told me it was 11 months half price as well. I guess she was unaware of the quidco deal. And is 11+9 not 18 lol. I hope the calculator on the diamond has an idiot button for me to press, My data info is from the orange website: http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/paymonthly ,But maybe I will try and haggle with orange later. Just gimme da phone!

OK, I got the diamond Wow. I phoned Orange (yuk, almost wrote iphone, **** I did), the unlimited data is correct, so I called P4U and there is definitely no 11 months half price, sorry if I misled anyone. The bottom line is £25 p/m, I'm still happy with the deal so far, I think my partner will get one too. Quidco has always worked for us in the past with things like car insurance and home insurance, so I'm fairly confident they will honour the £175 cashback.

MDA Compact IV – List your best deal

All,
I know there is a thread for the MDA Compact IV, but this one is more specific. Can anyone who has managed to get a deal list it in this thread as:
1. Current price plan
2. Monthly line rental
3. Monthly bill
4. New price plan
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges
The idea is to help the rest of us decide where we should be buying the phone from.
Thanks...

This is what I did, I hope I've not f***ed up too badly, not TMob though, no service where I live, Orange is good though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408425

That’s a good deal as long as phones 4 u honour the Quidco payment. They can always not pay out it has happened before with other companies.
I would really like to find out what deals others have got on T-Mobile, be it through a shop / online / telephone. I’m calling them at 8:30 so just a few minutes to go. Wish me luck...

OK just got off the phone and spoke to Mike in team LR4.
I was very frank and he just told me the best deal possible. No messing around total time spent talking was probably 5 minutes.
1. Current price plan - Flext 25 + WnW (12 Month)
2. Monthly line rental - £16.25
3. Monthly bill - £17 - £20
4. New price plan - Flext 25 + WnW (12 Month)
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased – T-Mobile directly over the phone.
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges - £20 (free delivery) that’s a £210 discount!
Now bearing in mind that my total line rental for the year works out at £195, getting a £210 discount on the handset, there actually paying me £15 over the year.
Oh and for people who are wondering how I got free delivery, well I simply stated that online they are giving free delivery one all new contracts and upgrades so why not via telephone?
Hope it helps...

imranbashir_uk said:
OK just got off the phone and spoke to Mike in team LR4.
I was very frank and he just told me the best deal possible. No messing around total time spent talking was probably 5 minutes.
1. Current price plan - Flext 25 + WnW (12 Month)
2. Monthly line rental - £16.25
3. Monthly bill - £17 - £20
4. New price plan - Flext 25 + WnW (12 Month)
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased – T-Mobile directly over the phone.
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges - £20 (free delivery) that’s a £210 discount!
Now bearing in mind that my total line rental for the year works out at £195, getting a £210 discount on the handset, there actually paying me £15 over the year.
Oh and for people who are wondering how I got free delivery, well I simply stated that online they are giving free delivery one all new contracts and upgrades so why not via telephone?
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Why is your line rental so low? Do you spend lots a month and you already skipped an upgrade and got a £10 a month discount?

imranbashir_uk said:
That’s a good deal as long as phones 4 u honour the Quidco payment. They can always not pay out it has happened before with other companies.
I would really like to find out what deals others have got on T-Mobile, be it through a shop / online / telephone. I’m calling them at 8:30 so just a few minutes to go. Wish me luck...
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well what did they say?
LOL - I was watching a video on youtube then - had this page up for 5 minutes....
Thx for the info! Gonna call them myself.

ljames28 said:
Why is your line rental so low? Do you spend lots a month and you already skipped an upgrade and got a £10 a month discount?
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No I get a 50% friends and family discount off my line rental for life.

Towserspvm2000 said:
well what did they say?
LOL - I was watching a video on youtube then - had this page up for 5 minutes....
Thx for the info! Gonna call them myself.
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No problem,
Good luck and list what you get on here for others to compare.

1. Current price plan --- flex35 + free off peek calling (any network) WnW plus 12month
2. Monthly line rental 35 + WnW 12.50
3. Monthly bill: £47.50
4. New price plan same as above 45.00
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased : from t-mobile direct
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges: free delivery free hand set got 2.50 off from wnw plus normaly 12.50, unable to get any on my flex35 as i got offpeek calls

1. Current price plan - Flext 20 + WnW (been on it for 2 years)
2. Monthly line rental - £22.50 (Should be £27.50 but £5 discount online)
3. Monthly bill - £22.50 NEVER use more than my allowance (use phone for web alot!)
4. New price plan - Combi 20 + WnW(£7.50), so £27.50 month
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased - enquired on line, but told phone out of stock, and not in local store yet
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges - £0
Just got off the phone to a nice Scottish guy - offered me free phone on combi 20 + wnw. He said they are out of stock now, so he rang my local Tmobile shop (Merthyr) to enquire if they had any. He was honest when he came back to me as he said they wouldnt have any in till they got rid of the Compact IIIs, and the guy said there were a 100 or so left on the system nationwide. He said they had had a batch of Compact IVs in to see the initial response to it, and they were flying out. Looks like they've all flown. So I'm on the system waiting now. I had to hold the line twice as he checked with his manager for a few things, but I dont know what that was about.
All in all a pleasant surprise - no haggling - he offered me the best price straight off the bat. Scottish man dealing with a Welsh man for you I suppose... Us Celts stick together and help each other out! lol
Hope this helps - be interesting to see if other people manage to get hold of them after me, considering I was told they've all gone.

What confuses me is how so many of you are being offered the phone for FREE (with many on 12 month deals) with such low tariffs such as Flext 25 and Combi 20.
Surely this loses T Mobile money? no?..

darthbane2k said:
What confuses me is how so many of you are being offered the phone for FREE (with many on 12 month deals) with such low tariffs such as Flext 25 and Combi 20.
Surely this loses T Mobile money? no?..
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I was honestly gob smacked when he said I could have it for free. I hardly use the phone - txt quite a bit - but use the web a lot. As i said I was initally on 18 month contract, but am now 6 months outside this. 12 month contract and free phone for £27.50.
What confuses me is why is this phone cheaper than Vario III (Kaiser/Tytn II)?

I guess there just trying to keep customers as competition is stiff at the moment.
Take me as an example the total cost for me is £215 (£195 line rental and £20 handset) for the year that includes £40 of credit per month to use as minutes or text, and unlimited Web n Walk, and the MDA Compact IV!
Just the RRP of the phone is more than I will pay for the phone and line rental all included so I’m not complaining!

Just finished speaking to T-Mobile.
As of 14:00 on 16/06/08 they have the MDA Compact IV back in stock, so anyone who missed out go get it before it sells out again
Call 150 then Options 3-1-0

Cost
Previously on Flext 30 & WNW paying £37.50 pm
Monthly bill circa £40
New price plan Flext 30 & WNW -25% discount so £28pm 18months
Purchased through upgrades - T-mobile direct
Phone was free but £6.99 delivery
Total upfront £6.99
Contract cost £506.34 (Flext 30 [£140 allowance] and Web and Walk over 18months)

Previously on: UFIX 15 with (50mins + 25txt)
Monthly bill: £15
New price plan: UFIX 15 with (100mins + 100txt)
Purchased through upgrades - T-mobile direct
Phone was £99.99 but £6.99 delivery
Total upfront £106.99
Contract cost £286.99 on 12 MONTH CONTRACT
Just ordered mines today, apparently there were 50 in stock when i called them, after i ordered mine on upgrade there were 30 left so be quick to get one. They said that it should arrive by 1pm on TUESDAY!!! don't think that i can wait that long. lol
Tell me if thats a good deal.
Cheers

Was on Flex 20 + WNW + £5 off.
Upgrade on same package ie £22.50 18M contract
Free MDA C4 + £7 delivery
Quite happy!
Except the Pink screen & crap battery life (under 24 hours)!

Just grabbed mine. Apparently still a few left if you're quick.
I've upgraded:
£20 for phone
£25 a month (150 mins & 150 texts)
Web & Walk
12 month contract

1. Current price plan (tmobile relax 150min (€19,50 + unlimited Internet(9,95) and unlimited sms(9,95))
2. Monthly line rental (dunnoo what this means lol)
3. Monthly bill around € 40,-
4. New price plan 1 year renewal of my contract
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased T mobile shop in my hometown
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges € 0,-

imranbashir_uk said:
All,
I know there is a thread for the MDA Compact IV, but this one is more specific. Can anyone who has managed to get a deal list it in this thread as:
1. Current price plan
2. Monthly line rental
3. Monthly bill
4. New price plan
5. Place where MDA Compact IV was purchased
6. Total cost for the MDA Compact including any delivery charges
The idea is to help the rest of us decide where we should be buying the phone from.
Thanks...
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1. Flext 20 with WnW.
2. £15 for Flext £7.50 for Wnw.
3. £22.49.
4. As above keeping the £5 discount from last contract
5. T-Mobile by phone upgrades.
6. £126.99.
Regards

Are orange activly trying to loose customers?

When I left Orange i was at least offerd a free Touch Diamond and an Okay 35 quid a month connection with there so called unlimited data package...
But yesterday we moved my mums phone...
The retentions guy basically wanted us to pay 40 quid a month for the contract. And wanted us to pay 150 quid for the phone...
Oh and Unlimited is now 250mb FUP... And he was even being very dodgy as im sure it was 500mb... he simply said "it depends on who you talk to"
I was a bit WTF by his attitude.
His attitude was not friendly by any means if anything it was aggressive insulting and uncaring.
I just found it really odd also that one week i get offerd a free phone a couple of weeks later they want 150 quid for it. Even with the contract. As if being a returning customer means nothing to them...
Anyone else had really bad experiences with them?
Oh and on that day we went to a Tmobile shop and got my mum a Compact IV Just waiting for the pack code to arrive to transfer the number.

In my experience;
Never take the first offer. Take note of all they have to offer, look at other prociders' contracts and then call back. You can usually negotiate something.
Always make sure you get through to Retensions, not Upgrades. Same handset, same contracts, different prices.
Prices do depends on how many 'credits' you rack up during the contract. If you pay minimum line rental and never go over minutes, you don't get much leverage on new phones/contracts.
Personally, I've always gone for 12 month contracts as I can't stand the thought of having one phone for more than a year!

I was on Orange, switched to O2, got the £35/month deal.
No more callers getting put through to my voicemail instead of my phone!

No need to go through Orange to do an upgrade, just visit one of the third party providers (car phone warehouse, Phones4U etc.) and they will upgrade you with a better deal than Orange will offer direct.
I got a free Diamond on my existing Dolphin £25 contract. Just walked into Phones4U and they offered to upgrade with no additional cost. In less than half an hour I had a new phone without having to change contract or number.

Orange!!
I was on contract with Orange for 10 years.... and when I told them I was leaving 'cos £8 a month was ridiculous for 30MB of data, some guy in an Indian call centre just said OK... 'OK'!!! TEN YEARS!
I've moved to vodafone... £30 a month, free Touch Diamond, 250 mins anytime, 150 texts, 500MB data... and polite call centre staff I can actually understand and who know what they're talking about!
I wouldn't touch Orange again if they offered me for free, every new device HTC release in the future! Good bye forever

Captain Jean Luc Picard said:
I was on Orange, switched to O2, got the £35/month deal.
No more callers getting put through to my voicemail instead of my phone!
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I switched my voicemail off years ago. Mainly because of a stalker mind you...
I've kept it off ever since.

I oredred my Diamond with Orange by phone @ 9:30 at night.....
Phone was free, I got a car charger, loyalty bonus discounts....(600mins, Unltd txts, unltd Internet...well 250mb) = £22.50 a month : 18mnths
Chuffed

Im on orange with my diamond i pay £40 quid a month and only get 150 mb of internet so i got my fone unlocked and im on vodafone pay as u go now (even tho i cnt get on the vodafone live homepage)