hrm this isnt good - it would appear bluetooth stops working when wifi is enabled - was listening to an mp3 on bt stereo headphones and enabled wifi and it killed the conn - not only that it seems i cant use any form of bt device if wifi is enabled (not even connected) on the device - wtf?
is anyone else experiencing this?
No, I use Jawbone BT headset with all sounds out BT using BTaudio.exe then start WiFi on home LAN and watch streaming video from Slingbox.
this was the case with the titan...
eric b
do i have a faulty unit?
i don't think so. in the titan, the bluetooth and wifi antennae were the same actual unit.
eric b
you sure? remE says both work at the same time just fine for him :s
to me it seems as thought ewifi signal is overpowering the bluetooth or smt - does the bluetooth freq lie in the wifi freq range or smt? is there any way they could overlap?
both work if i have only one on at a time - can anyone confirm either way if both work at the same time for them and what equipment youre using?
I'm doing it as a type this. I'm watching 30fps video streaming at 300k over WiFi and listening to it thru a Jawbone BT headset. For sure this works fine.
I have a Hermes and it would not do this well at all, it would allow BT and 3G video streaming but not WiFi. Kaiser can handle it.
maybe you could try a differet BT headset, maybe yours suffers from inteference ( i don't know the frequencies of BT and WiFi but WiFI could be killing the connection because your headset jamms)
BT and WiFi are both spread specktrum radios operating at 2.4ghz. They are designed to co-exist and do so on Kaiser. Maybe there is a difference with Stereo vs Mono headsets, they do use different BT profiles. If I get a chance I'll try a stereo set and report back.
thanks guys - i need to make sure my unit is duff before i ssend it back for a replacement ;(
looks like my unit is gonna go back - i called htc and they said they havent heard of this issue before and are 'escalating it' - it seems that superetrader wont give me an RMA for my unit until htc have given me a reference number - is this normal procedure? seems a bit odd to me
i tested my unit some more at work today with a whole host of different bluetooth and wifi gadgets and the problem is consistently reproducable
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Weird issue with new HTC ROM (version no. below) - anyone else got it or know a fix?:
If I make a BT call with WiFi on, the BT crackles and flits every second.
If I turn off WiFi it is perfect.
If I set WiFi to 'Best Performance', all BT devices are lost and disconnect.
If I set it to 'Best Battery' or the middle setting, BT devices reconnect.
VoIP calls via Bluetooth now crackle themselves to death, because such calls use BOTH Bluetooth AND WiFI simultaneously - shock horror!
(Updated post above with VoIP issue)
i was having the same exact problem, took me couple days to realize it was the wifi. Only thing ive been able to do(motorolla s99 stereo) is make sure my headset is FULLY charged before pairing. And (no fix here) i shut the wifi off when im in the field. There is a bug there for sure. Is it just too much for the phone to track the 3g, wifi, and duplex on the BT?
CJSnet said:
Weird issue with new HTC ROM (version no. below) - anyone else got it or know a fix?:
If I make a BT call with WiFi on, the BT crackles and flits every second.
If I turn off WiFi it is perfect.
If I set WiFi to 'Best Performance', all BT devices are lost and disconnect.
If I set it to 'Best Battery' or the middle setting, BT devices reconnect.
VoIP calls via Bluetooth now crackle themselves to death, because such calls use BOTH Bluetooth AND WiFI simultaneously - shock horror!
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I have exactly the same problem. BT works great with my headset (Plantronics 8XX) and has good range and is very clear. My WiFi works great and has a good range BUT if I have both turned on my BT is useless. BT devices are not visible more that 30cm away and there is a major crackle even at less than 30cm. Took me a while to work out why my BT headset would not pair with my TyTn II and Plantronics could not help. Used to work with my previous TyTn II OK, so I did a hard reset and then BT paired fine. Then I realised it was simply that hard reset turned off WiFi so I wasted my time doing hard reset when turning off WiFi was solution.
I called HTC and they can't or won't help but they did say they would log it and look into it (do we believe them? ;0).
The BIG PROBLEM for me is using SIP/VoIP as this uses WiFi of course but because of front speaker issues on TyTn II it is very hard to use without a headset and sound it just not good enough most times to use on my unit. So BT headset is the answer but can't work due to this WiFi/BT issue.
I am going to try flashing various different radios this afternoon as some members said this may help but from what I have read on this forum it does not solve problem completely.
If not then it's back to my wired headset and looking like an 80's teenager when I am using VoIP.
Also I wanted to install Navizon and earn points driving around with my WiFi on but this would mean no BT headset so I can't do this.
This really is an annoying bug.
If anyone has a fix or has found something searching the forums that my searches have not found then pls let me know.
Thanks.
I found a problem with my kaiser phone last night. The problem is that if I listening to music with my bluetooth headset I am not able to connect to my WiFi at the same time. This problem is specific to A2DP because my headset can be connected to my phone and I can not browse the web with WiFi. Has anyone seen this problem before? Has there ever been a resolution for it?
stevencage7 said:
I found a problem with my kaiser phone last night. The problem is that if I listening to music with my bluetooth headset I am not able to connect to my WiFi at the same time. This problem is specific to A2DP because my headset can be connected to my phone and I can not browse the web with WiFi. Has anyone seen this problem before? Has there ever been a resolution for it?
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I've seen this too -- when using A2DP, the WiFi connection goes down & won't re-establish itself until I turn off A2DP. I haven't found a resolution yet -- not that I'm looking for one as I almost never use A2DP, and when I do, I'm in the car, where WiFi isn't too useful.
See my post here which may be a related problem. I assume you have the same new HTC ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396409
I have a similar issue. If I am streaming music, from my HP media server, over wifi and using my Plantronics 590A bluetooh headphones, after each song I am asked to log back onto the network and as each song comes to an end my device starts to search for a network connection. I don't have this issue when I use wired headphones. Clearly there is an issue when both bluetooth and wifi are used at the same time. I don't know if it's hardware or software but I'm not happy about it.
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HTC TyTN II (Kaiser/P4550)
Rom ver: 1.82.707.0 WWE
Rom date: 11/03/07
Radio ver: 1.27.15.32
WM 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1620 (18125.0.4.2)
It's normal. Without going too technical, WiFi and Bluetooth operate on the same frequencies. They will live together if they're not using too much bandwidth, but if the usage is heavy there will be problems.
A BT stereo headset represents a lot of data to send and thus bandwidth usage, which means the BT will use the spectrum heavily, stepping over the Wifi. Due to the many packet losses the Wifi connection cuts.
Other way around, if Wifi is under heavy load, Bluetooth might drop.
Nothing we can do, that's what happens when you pack 2 radios operating in the same frequency band so close to each other, or even maybe sharing the same antenna which might be the case in today's phones.
It is absolutely NOT normal. The reason I know this is that VoIP over WiFi has been running almost perfectly on my TyTN II for a year, until I installed the latest ROM by HTC which broke it.
I used to get no crackle on Bluetooth calls with WiFi turned on. Now I do.
I used to get great quality VoIP. Now it is beyond unusable.
Simply, their new ROM broke it. BT and WiFi used to live in harmony, until their buggy ROM came out the other day. I think there are many users who know this, and who expect a hotfix soon.
You're talking about calls, I assume using the BT headset profile, while the other people in the thread are using A2DP wireless stereo. They're very different in terms of bandwidth.
On mine the headset with WiFi is also fine, but not A2DP. You're apparently not having the same issue than what is mentione in this thread. Yours might be due to the ROM, but the A2DP thing is more likely to be related to what I explained. I could myself experience it with several ROMS (all WM6, never tried a 6.1).
kilrah said:
It's normal. Without going too technical, WiFi and Bluetooth operate on the same frequencies. They will live together if they're not using too much bandwidth, but if the usage is heavy there will be problems.
A BT stereo headset represents a lot of data to send and thus bandwidth usage, which means the BT will use the spectrum heavily, stepping over the Wifi. Due to the many packet losses the Wifi connection cuts.
Other way around, if Wifi is under heavy load, Bluetooth might drop.
Nothing we can do, that's what happens when you pack 2 radios operating in the same frequency band so close to each other, or even maybe sharing the same antenna which might be the case in today's phones.
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My old TyTn II worked fine with BT and WiFi on at same time - never a problem. I always had WiFi on at home for emails etc... and always have my BT headset (Plantronics 8XX mono) working as I hate holding phone to my ear and get a lot of calls.
I recently bought another TyTn II and then unlocked it using advice form this forum (many thanks to all BTW!) and installed latest HTC rom and WM6.1 etc... Now I love many aspect of the new ROM but I can't use BT and WiFi at same time.
So from my experience it MUST be the new HTC ROM software issue.
Okay, chalk me up as another victim of this Wireless + A2DP = Crap Reception. I've tried three other Radios and the effect is the same.
I was using a rom I got in about April, and I could stream music from the internet over wireless listening to it on my Pantronics 590A's over bluetooth no issues (other than battery lol). Now with a rom I got this month, I can listen to music over bluetooth no problem, surf using wireless no issue but as soon as you mix them both it's all bad. Also, I need to re-pair my headphones whenever I want A2DP, where previously I could just turn on the headphones and have them connect. Also, no headset icon in the taskbar.
It's not a CPU issue as there's no excess usage when you both have them enabled. Personally I'm going to point the finger at the bluetooth stack here.
As far as I remembered when I first purchased the ATT Tilt with my Plantronic Voyager 855 I WAS able to stream via Wifi (Winamp Remote) and use my bluetooth without a problem. It's when I started to put cooked roms in the Tilt that it stopped working correctly...
Besides, I use a Macbook Pro via Wifi only and I listen to my Itune via my Plantronic Voyager 855 everyday. If it's true about WiFi overloading Bluetooth on the frequency. Why does it work fine on the MBP?
And Finally.... to make my point...
I also have an AT&T Fuze. Works fine there. Matter affact. I'm currently connected via bluetooth to my Fuze with my Voyager 855... turned off 3G/HSPDA on the Fuze. WiFi on the Fuze using Winamp Remote to connect to my PC streaming from there. Explain that....
Has anyone fixed this problem?
I'm experiencing the same problem on my kaiser aka xda stellar. When Wifi is turned on bluetooth A2DP stereo connection is dropped.
Hi Guys,
i have this problem for a long time and didn't find anything about it in web or in xda forums.
I have a HTC Dream + HBH-IS 800 Sony Ericsson Headset.
When i listen to music via A2DP the connection is not very stable...
the connection interrupts very often for about 2 or 3 seconds, then works for about 3 seconds.
This only happens when i am outside, not in buildings. I this the reason is because of interferences. The connection gets better when i move the G1 into a specific orientation (upper side up) and don't turn my head to the right
On my old Windows mobile phone i played around with bitpool (=ratio between quality and connection stability by constant bitrate) settings... is there a possibility to get the connection more stable, when playing around with this setting?!
How can this setting be changed on android?
Further information:
-ROM Cyanogen 4.2.5 but same problem on stock ROM
-HTC Dream has been replaced one by a new device -> same problem
-Headset was never exchanged, but worked perfectly on my old Touch Pro with WM 6.1
Thanks for your help
There is a known issue on the Bluetooth stack and is suppose to be fixed in the Elclair 2.0 fix, the temporary work around is to first pair and connect then disconnect and reconnect it again i'm having to do that several times a day when i use my RocketFish bluetooth stereo headset. Hope that helps
thanks for this workaround, will try it tomorrow and will post if it works for me too
hmm, didnt really work for me... no change after pairing disconnecting and connecting again.
i wonder why this only happens outside, not in buildings... another frequencys which interferences maybe?!
Be sure to disable wifi.
Not trying to hi-jack your thread. If you want me to open another i will. However this is a BT question as well.
my G1 is set to connect to my stereo in my car. Pioneer BT head unit. I find that i have to manually tell it to connect every time i get in the car. When i had a blackberry before it would just connect every time on its own without me doing anything once i made the initial connection.
Any ideas?
thanks.
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There is a known issue on the Bluetooth stack and is suppose to be fixed in the Elclair 2.0 fix, the temporary work around is to first pair and connect then disconnect and reconnect it again i'm having to do that several times a day when i use my RocketFish bluetooth stereo headset. Hope that helps
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Worked on Dell Streak A1.6
I have Dell BH200 headset as well, and I have the same exact problem its like the audio stutters but when I first connect it its more stutter than music so you can barely even understand the music until after 30secs when it starts to normal out.
ATM im runnning Stock 1.6 for G1, im going to try Cyanogenmod 6.0 tomorrow and see if anything changes.
but everyday I go back and forth with my laptop and phone since my headphones run for atleast 3-4 days.
wow, finally someone having the same problem.
and even the same description of the connection issues.
I recently bought a orange SanFran and, as the device is fairly cheap, a nokia bh-504 along with it.
The connection isnt stable even when I put it in my breast pocket.
As soon as I move my head to the right, the streaming stops. Completely.
I can easily stop the music when holding my hand in front of the right earpiece.
so i will try the disconnect / connect again "workaround", but I don't think that will help.
I paired the same headset with my gf's netbook and I could walk through the whole apartment and the signal was stable even through up to 4 walls.
so no one here knows how to tweak BT settings in android?
A number of people have mentioned having issues with A2DP streaming on the Nexus.
I just found out something interesting... I've been getting annoying skips in music when playing audio to my car stereo, so after experimenting I've found:-
Open bluetooth settings, select headunit, enter pin, allow phonebook access and for the duration of that connection I get perfect audio.
Turn off either the headunit or phone, or both and allow them to connect again, then audio skips...
Open bluetooth settings, select headunit, unpair, select headunit, enter pin, allow phonebook access and for the duration of that connection, once again I get perfect audio.
The only thing I can think of is that the good connection is initiated by the N1 and the bad one by the headunit when it connects to the N1 at startup. Maybe capability negotiation problem? Maybe N1 selects a lower bitrate when it connects than the headunit does when it connects, any ideas? Is it possible to tweak the N1 to restrict the connection parameters?
- Anthony
I use a HT820 by Motorola and do not have any issues with skipping.
Started stock, then CM, now froyo. no issues on any of these roms.
That's great, but whilst bluetooth is a standard, some manufacturers get things wrong, and motorola may well have handled this better, this handsfree kit worked with:-
Hermes,
TYTN II
Touch Pro,
Sony Xperia,
Diamond2.
The kit within my headunit is built by parrot, so no small fish in the bluetooth pond.... It has a little menu with a list of models of phone with "funny" (non-standard) bluetooth implementations so that it can implement workarounds.
To top it off, others, with different handsfree kits have similar issues.
So, back to what I was saying...
I've just confirmed that it doesn't matter which end initiates the connection, if the phone was paired previously it skips, if you unpair and re-pair (during pairing the phone is connected as part of that process) for the duration of that connection the sound is flawless.
It must be using different connection parameters on that first connection, but I can't even see _any_ information about the connections, like bitrate/bitpool / sample rate etc.
Is there any way I can get the connection information for current bluetooth connections?
Does anyone know the way around the AOSP code enough to see if there could be any difference in the pairing connection to the normal connections?
I bet it really is that it uses "safe" values during the initial connection.
- Anthony
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...t&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Sta rs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-622231.html
All i found on it, hope it helped. Otherwise, good luck finding out a solution.
Devastatin said:
I use a HT820 by Motorola and do not have any issues with skipping.
Started stock, then CM, now froyo. no issues on any of these roms.
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I have the same headphones and only notice skipping when I'm walking fast, with my phone in my pocket...or I turn my head away from the phone. But that's all my doing, not the phone.
Friends ...... , HTC One it seems has a terrible Bluetooth range ....... I have a Logitech BoomBox (Bluetooth spks) and a Belkin Bluetooth receiver connected to my AVR. In both the cases, when connected to my HTC One it looses audio in just couple of feets. Specially with belkin receiver. But when I tested the same with my iPhone 4, it works perfectly, till the Bluetooth's designated range of 30 feet (10 meters) ... with both Belkin and Logitech ....
so it has something to do with HTC One's Bluetooth.
People with HTC One and having any Bluetooth audio device, please test this and report if you are also facing the same issue, Or is there something that I can try to increase the range. Its pathetic, 2-3 feets at the max. I am bitterly disappointed with this ..........
Regards.
Sammy
I think that Android 4.1 had a BT flaw that was fixed in 4.2.
so this means its more of an android issue than HTC One........ any alternatives to improve this, till we have an 4.2 update
I was using bt audio yesterday and it was horrible. I did some googling, try turning off wifi before you connect to the speakers, it solved my trouble straight away. I found if the music was playing when I turned wifi back on it would still be ok. Might help?
jiggle_ said:
I was using bt audio yesterday and it was horrible. I did some googling, try turning off wifi before you connect to the speakers, it solved my trouble straight away. I found if the music was playing when I turned wifi back on it would still be ok. Might help?
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Jiggle .... my friend, you made the day for me, how so ever strange may it seem, it did work .... ..... I switched of my wifi and then connected Bluetooth to Belkin receiver and vola!! :victory:... no drop outs and was able to use BT at full 30 feets, and then if I switch on the wifi later all is well.
Strange, if wifi is working before I connect BT, it drops and is very uneven ......... must be some bug, but anyway, solution is not as irritating as one might expect.
Thanks again Jiggle, for you input, saved me a great disappointment.
Regards
Sammy
sam9s said:
Jiggle .... my friend, you made the day for me, how so ever strange may it seem, it did work .... ..... I switched of my wifi and then connected Bluetooth to Belkin receiver and vola!! :victory:... no drop outs and was able to use BT at full 30 feets, and then if I switch on the wifi later all is well.
Strange, if wifi is working before I connect BT, it drops and is very uneven ......... must be some bug, but anyway, solution is not as irritating as one might expect.
Thanks again Jiggle, for you input, saved me a great disappointment.
Regards
Sammy
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whew you had me in a panic here. (o; I'm still a little traumatized from my asus T201 wireless issues.
The Wifi/bluetooth issue is a drawback of the aluminum body design of the One. Bluetooth shares an antenna with wifi transmit. I believe wifi receive shouldn't interrupt bt though.
Then there should also be a problem if I switch on wifi after I connect BT. ,... in which case it works. It only creates a problem, if the wifi is first on and then I connect BT. ...... which is strange
Just for information. I had 3 htc, desire hd, sensation, onex and ALL had problem with bluetooth, weak signal, using a headset with the phone in my pocket already failed. I now have a note2 and this problem does not occur, being used in the same situation. So ....
sam9s said:
Then there should also be a problem if I switch on wifi after I connect BT. ,... in which case it works. It only creates a problem, if the wifi is first on and then I connect BT. ...... which is strange
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My m7 (TrickDroid, elementalX 0.11 default overclocking and undervolting) is having the BT issue whenever wifi is on, regardless of whether I connect the BT device while wifi is off, and regardless of whether audio is playing when the wifi is turned back on. In other words, on my device, BT really really sucks if wifi is connected, period. Any suggestions other than not to use wifi if I want to use BT?
Update: My router (Netgear wnr2000v3) seems to use 2.4 Ghz channels. Any thoughts about whether swapping the router with a dual-band or 5 Ghz channel router would work around this issue?
pcadvocate said:
My m7 (TrickDroid, elementalX 0.11 default overclocking and undervolting) is having the BT issue whenever wifi is on, regardless of whether I connect the BT device while wifi is off, and regardless of whether audio is playing when the wifi is turned back on. In other words, on my device, BT really really sucks if wifi is connected, period. Any suggestions other than not to use wifi if I want to use BT?
Update: My router (Netgear wnr2000v3) seems to use 2.4 Ghz channels. Any thoughts about whether swapping the router with a dual-band or 5 Ghz channel router would work around this issue?
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I did pick up a new dual-band router and set up the phone to connect only on the 5Ghz band, and it worked! No more bluetooth issues at home. So if you run into this issue, a temporary workaround until (hopefully) HTC/Google provide a fix is to avoid the 2.4Ghz band.
Strangely enough, my Bluetooth range keeps decreasing with each software update. When I first bought this thing, I was generally impressed with how far I could walk from my BT speakers. Not as good as my evo 4g or 3d, but decent. Better than my gs3 and gn2.
Now I tend to make it about 5 feet or so with minor cut-outs while using apt-x. If I put my hand between the signal at 10ft, I can stop it completely. If I touch the upper-right of my phone with my thumb as I hold it in my right hand, I can kill the signal as well. Very much an antennagate going on here just like the iPhone 4.