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memory card problem

hi
i have a problem with my trinity and my memory card i have a 4 gigabyte mini sd and a 2 gigabyte mini sd now on the 4g i have nothing but music but almost eveyday i have to update my library on my wmplayer then i replaces some of my music with sybols and i cant acces them at all then my phone wont read my memory card but then i put my 2g memory card and it works fine but i still have to update my library once in a wile
so on my 4g memory card i have to format it again but sometimes even my computer wont recognize it so i have to play with it a lil till it dose i do this like 2-3 times a week im getting fustrated
most likely its my memory card
has anyone foud a solution to the wmplayer and not reading the music off the memory card i have tried erasing metadataand and everything in it and still the problem dosnt go away
any help??

or maybe that my memory card is dameged in some way
i dont know what brand is it
or the memory card is cheaply made and not a good quality i dont know can it be that too???

Oh, not another memory card problem!
Please use the search function - you got more than you wanted

i had the same problem
after i removed the SD card and reinsert it again it got a different name (Storage Card 2) while the old name (Storage card) is already present which made a conflict for the ppc didn't resolved ubtil i deleted the storage card 2 name and reinserted the card again

ok i searche with no luck
so there is no fix for this problem?
i have to re-format my card every week?
i didnt have this problem with my old phone smt5600 it worked nice now i have a better phone with a crapy memory card problem so wat do i do now ? use both phones one for music, videos and the other for everything else? o and all the price less pictures i took they are all gone
or has anyone found a fix for this probem that wanna share??

Too many search results already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sea...ude=&nocache=0&ajax=0&imagehash=&imagestamp=&
No, there is current no fix available. HTC is said to release a new WM6 ROM that fix this problem - but it's just hearsay, don't count on it.
The storage card 2 appears when your card is corrupted (perhaps on the system memory, or the card physically), it just got stuck in an unusable state in the system. Somehow at the same time, some program is trying to write things into it. The WM OS is so dump (convienient to programmer, however) that it treats storage cards as part of PATH for saving files. So the OS "magically" creates a new folder "storage card 2", in an attempt to give you the most pleasant experience using WM instead of an error. But users won't notice problems until it is too late, or would only notice this with even bigger confusions like you.
To be honest, I believe a simple error message would really make everyone's life easier, be it users, and the guys at HTC.
OK, if you are asking for remedies, there is one. Try the program "sd sentry". It will notify you whenever there's a corruption or disappearance of the SD card, so you could prevent damage actually being written to the disk physically by rebooting the machine in advance.
How to get this little but useful program is left as an exercise the the readers.

Storage Card Problem Wing???

Hi,
I have a tmobile wing and I got the phone a few days ago.
This is my first windows mobile phone and therefore i don't have much experience and knowledge here.
I am facing a problem that has surfaced three time in the last week or so. The applications that i have on my storage card become unavailable and when i try to open the applications i get an error saying that sd card is not available. Also starnge folders with strange names (a lot of different characters such as boxes appear on the storage card and i am unable to delete them, where it says that there are system files in these folders).
The problem is only resolved if i do a hard reset and format my storage card by using a card reader (format of the card is essential as even after doing a hard reset the storage card does not become available). Initially i thought that it was some problem with the applications that i had on my phone but now since this is the third time that this has happened I am worried that there may be something wrong with my phone. Since my phone is still under warranty i can return it. So please advise rearding the same. The applications that I normally have on my phone are as follows,
a) Resco file explorer and Registry explorer
b) SK Tools
c) Opera Explorer
d) Mio Maps
e) Google Maps
f) Space time
g) CE Convertor
If this has something to do with the offical wing ROM, please advise which ROM to use as again I'd like to iterate that I am totally illeterate regarding this. What I want is a ROM that gives me plenty of RAM so that I can run my GPS software and MP3's at the same time, other than that there are no special requirements and I don't need plenty of pre-installed applications.
Thanks for your help!!!

faisalsiddiqui said:
Hi,
I have a tmobile wing and I got the phone a few days ago.
This is my first windows mobile phone and therefore i don't have much experience and knowledge here.
I am facing a problem that has surfaced three time in the last week or so. The applications that i have on my storage card become unavailable and when i try to open the applications i get an error saying that sd card is not available. Also starnge folders with strange names (a lot of different characters such as boxes appear on the storage card and i am unable to delete them, where it says that there are system files in these folders).
The problem is only resolved if i do a hard reset and format my storage card by using a card reader (format of the card is essential as even after doing a hard reset the storage card does not become available). Initially i thought that it was some problem with the applications that i had on my phone but now since this is the third time that this has happened I am worried that there may be something wrong with my phone. Since my phone is still under warranty i can return it. So please advise rearding the same. The applications that I normally have on my phone are as follows,
a) Resco file explorer and Registry explorer
b) SK Tools
c) Opera Explorer
d) Mio Maps
e) Google Maps
f) Space time
g) CE Convertor
If this has something to do with the offical wing ROM, please advise which ROM to use as again I'd like to iterate that I am totally illeterate regarding this. What I want is a ROM that gives me plenty of RAM so that I can run my GPS software and MP3's at the same time, other than that there are no special requirements and I don't need plenty of pre-installed applications.
Thanks for your help!!!
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Did you set your temp for IE to the SD?
This tends to do it for me.

Yes I read somewhere that this helps and I did shift my internet folders to the storage card.
So is this the culprit??

Do a search for SD Card Corruption and you'll find this is a very common problem
These are just a few topics from the Herald forum only ... but if you search the whole site, you'll find alot more. Basically, you can't install anything onto your SD card that needs to run all the time... so anytime ur phone hibernates, if you have a program running from the SD card, it will corrupt your SD card.
Corrupt SD card
MicroSD keeps coming up with corruption
virus on wing!?!?

Thanks a lot for your help, i guess i will be more careful now.

I make a weekly copy of my whole storage card in case I lose everything. I'd suggest doing the same.

I also had the SD card corruption problem. I upgraded to WM6 and it has not happened again

You should knock on wood.

Hi Faisal Aswk,
I had the same problem for many days when i first purchased my Wing. The folder names used to get corrupt and the applications could not be accessed. At first i thought it was the ROM. I tried several ROMS but the same problem resurfaced. Then i was led to believe that my microSD card (Kingston 1gb) was going bad. I then bought a Sandisk 1gb. Everything worked fine with the Sandisk. No corruption for weeks, up until one day i formatted the Sandisk card using the windows format utility and the corruption reappeared. Later i did some research and found out there is special formatting on microSD cards to be able to function properly with devices. I assumed the Kingston did not have that sort of formatting. I reformatted the kingston card using a panasonic utility suggested by a user in one of the XDA forums. Here is the link...
http://panasonic.jp/support/audio/sd/download/ftp/sdfv2002.exe
I am using the Kingston MicroSD now. 3 months till date and no sign of corruption. I have both PIE and Opera Cache on there. I have several MP3 files i keep moving around, stored and deleted several 500+ MB movies files. All my applications are installed on that card.
I cannot say for sure that it was coz of the special formatting, but i have strong hunch that it is. Hope this fixes your problem and for others as well.

Storage card pretents to be empty when it is not?

I am running Duttys March 4 Dual Touch, No Cube on my Kaiser. Probably unrelated, but yesterday every thing on my 6GB Sandisk Storage Card disappeared
About 750mb of data! The card appears empty in File Manager until I select "Show all files" when a single folder called WMDRM containing a single 132kb file shows up.
If I go to Settings> System> Memory The storage card shows 738mb used and 5084mb free. So it appears the data is there but inaccessible. If I browse the card from activeSync the same is also the case. Properties tell be 738mb used, but nothing is visibel except the single small file.
Any ideas on how I might be able to get it back? Really want to get my data back....

Storage Card scrambled files?
logger said:
I am running Duttys March 4 Dual Touch, No Cube on my Kaiser. Probably unrelated, but yesterday every thing on my 6GB Sandisk Storage Card disappeared
About 750mb of data! The card appears empty in File Manager until I select "Show all files" when a single folder called WMDRM containing a single 132kb file shows up.
If I go to Settings> System> Memory The storage card shows 738mb used and 5084mb free. So it appears the data is there but inaccessible. If I browse the card from activeSync the same is also the case. Properties tell be 738mb used, but nothing is visibel except the single small file.
Any ideas on how I might be able to get it back? Really want to get my data back....
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You may have scrambled your files.
Put it into a USB card reader and try to access it on your PC - if it looks the same there, try looking at it with a good file undeleter like Fix-It Utilities or Norton, see if you can recover anything.
I just had a laptop hard drive fail on my last week, so I feel your pain. Fortunately I had fairly recent backups so I didn't lose too much.
Makes me think of someone's tagline I saw once:
"There are 2 kinds of people in this world, those with a backup plan in place, and those that have not yet had a catastrophic disk failure"
Good luck!

Search this site for SD CARD2
Most likely the issue is cause by the infamous Win CE bug.
If I have not posted the solution here, do a google search in the Web, you'll find detailed instructions.
[Edit] Your data is there, so don't do anything foolish, or else you'll have to reinstall everything. The SD CARD2 issue is very simple to resolve.

Thanks guys. Had a look as SD CARD2 threads and they did not seem to relate to me. Ran Pocket Mechanic and its Scandisk feature on the Card and it reported loads of "lost clusters". I then ran it again with "Automatically fix errors" and "discard lost clusters" and it merrily removed them all. So now my 738mb of data has gone. Rats. Oh well I will just start again a fresh and hope it does nto happen again.

i feel your pain. it's happened to me quite a few times on my XDA II, and once recently on my Kaiser when i damaged the mini-usb port (entirely my fault) and it started writing corrupted data onto the card when copying files over through activesync
I've since taken to keeping copies of my card data in addition to backups of my device. i usually carry 2 cards with me, one backup and one "current"; and i also keep backups of my SD cards on my PC, just in case.

Strangely, After a few hours most of the data on the card spontaneously returned. One minute it was empty and the next it had all the folders and files back again. Albeit with a lot of lost clusters and a heap of files reported as 32kb. Was able to recover a lot of the stuff and have got another 2GB card to use in the mean time.
Is there much point in reformatting the card? From experience, does anyone know if formatting might "fix" whatever caused it to lose clusters and go bad? Am considering sending it back for a warranty claim but how can I ascertain if it is actaully faulty once I reformat it.

Reformat or replace?
logger said:
Strangely, After a few hours most of the data on the card spontaneously returned. One minute it was empty and the next it had all the folders and files back again. Albeit with a lot of lost clusters and a heap of files reported as 32kb. Was able to recover a lot of the stuff and have got another 2GB card to use in the mean time.
Is there much point in reformatting the card? From experience, does anyone know if formatting might "fix" whatever caused it to lose clusters and go bad? Am considering sending it back for a warranty claim but how can I ascertain if it is actaully faulty once I reformat it.
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I have had USB flash memory seem to be faulty, especially when trying to transfer large amounts of data for a backup - then rebooted and re-inserted and had readable data. I would try reformatting, and then back up often and watch it like a hawk. Or, if it wasn't too expensive, just discard. Or, try to get a replacement - I did get an SD card replaced once at N/C because it wouldn't read in anything I tried it in, and I complained and was heard.

I bought a replacement 2GB panasonic microSD in Japan a couple of days back. (Always find the memory quality excellent there.) Their eyes were out on stalks when they saw my 6GB card. Must not be wideley available there yet. Anyway I plan to use the 2gb for the time being to rule out hardware and software causes. Have reformatted the suspect 6gb card. Will soon start using it again with everything backed up to the max and hopefully the problem will not return. I have been flashing a few different ROMs. Because of this I am becoming ever more reliant on the Storage Card for system recovery. So cant afford to have a dodgy one.

Hi, folks.
I use a HTC cruise with WM6.1 from Bepe. This morning, all files from my 8GB miniSD card just vanisehd!!! I removed the card from the phone and tried to access the files in windows with a sd card reader, but no file was seen. Although, there was only 3,5GB free!!! The files weren't there, but they kept occupying space. I used this software to recover the files. Awesome! They were all there, except for the ones stored in root. Also,I had to rename all root folders, the subfolders were OK. I just had to filter files marked as "good" and then copied them to my HD. The phone is working as usual, but I can't explain why exactly this happened? Would it be a vicious virus? A joke from Micro$oft? Any ideas?!?

SD card failure (Poll)

I noticed that like me some other people have problems with the kaiser not reading a micro SD card.
I have a 8 GB Sandisk Micro SD card and a T-Mobile MDA (with the original firmware)
A couple of days ago my Kaiser could read the memory card. Task manager (PPC) said it was not installed (something like that, I have a Dutch firmware). I had all the files on my PC so I formatted the SD card and tried again. No go..
some time later I repeated the process and it worked, for over an hour or so. (WMP was transferring some music when I got a notification that there was problem.)
I tried to use the original 1 GB SD card, didn't work.
Next I tried a hard reset. Again, a no go..
So.. I think the problem is in the hardware [Peran is wondering what the status is on those promised hardware acceleration drivers..]

been using 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and 6gb ones...havnet had a problem...havent tried 8gb tho

6GB + 8GB working with it for the last 6/7 moths. And did not have any problems.

At the risk of sounding rude...
What is the point of having a poll on this? you got a bad card ...we see that.We have read your other post.

there isn't really a point.. Just me knowing that I am about the only one with the problem.
On topic; yesterday evening I tried it again and.. the problem is gone..
Has anybody any ideas what I did wrong? ... it seems to be me that is doing something wrong.

Still no problems..

are you going to retract your vote?

I dont know. I hate things like this happening..
Still no problems..
Offtopic, does XDA forums 'close topics'?

I have similar problem. 6gb card been working for months.
Suddenly the HTC can't see it.
Can still see it on PC.
Reformated it, etc and still no luck.

i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.

i formatted the memory card and hard reset my tytn. there are no files on the memory card...

Im having the same problem again...

flashy said:
i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.
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I have the same problem.. My Kaiser stopped reading my sd card..
What exe files did you erase? How did you find the files that were currupted?
Thanks

Mine didn't work on/off for a while after I dropped my Kaiser...but i put it back in and stuff and it has worked for about a month since.

I just got my tilt today. And I threw my 1gb Lexar in and it won't recognize, and my pc won't recognize it either.

My tytn2 is running HTC official rom(WM6.1).
I'm currently using a Sandisk 8GB MicroSD card without any issues for a couple of months now.

Run fsck on the card... If that comes up clean, there's a problem. Otherwise, the Kaiser (WM?) is just very picky.

used a 1 GB Sandisk in the past, upgraded to 4 GB Sandisk..no problems with either one...

having problems with mine right now.
The other day while driving tomtom displayed a message about my accessing my map settings.
I closed tomtom and started it again as i'd had problems in the past with my BA not reading from the card. no maps found!!??? I checked with file explorer card was there but no files on my card. I checked with resco file explorer still no files.
When i got home i checked through active sync, and tried a few restarts, same again so i thought it may be the phone, only had it a week.
I tried the card in my card reader ...strange... 3 gig was being used but no files on card.
Formated the card put everything back aarrgggghhhh!
Today go to put speed cameras back on card and all files on the card have strange names with blocks in.
I unplugged the usb ready to format, again. Rebooted the phone pluged in the usb all files back to normal.
God that seemed like an essay!!

I have had the same thing happen several times. Most of the files on my card have disappeared and I know they are still there. I have found 2 causes.
Sometimes I disconnect the sync cable with out closing folders. Especially when I have been installing things directly to the card. My card will only show a few files but when I connect it back to the computer it will fix itself. The files suddenly reappear.
The second cause took me a while to figure out. I use a motorokr in the car to listen to my music while I drive. Sometimes I shut off the power without stopping wmp. Again the card will show no files. I knew they must still be there but connecting to the computer didn't help. I decided to update my wmp library and suddenly everything was back. Hope this helps someone!

All Storage Card Files Gone!

I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,

mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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i have read that this has happened to some people .. not me yet (fingers crossed) don't know what causes this. You could try a recovery software and see if you can get the stuff back.

Can you or anyone suggest a recovery software? Checking the MicroSD on my laptop shows 2.88 GB being used, (and of course 2.78 GB Free) so the data should be there. I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
Just wondering...is there some kind of virus out there that would do this? For all the data to be "hidden" and a new folder to be created....the card just didn't create a folder by itself....

WM a card killer
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me

rafgerm said:
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
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Yup, I used that program too. Recovered "missing files" problems on my previous hw6515 and twice on my TytnII 8GB micro SDdisk.

I've always had that "FilesToBeDeleted" folder too, it's normally hidden and when I delete it it comes back. Nothing special, just some folder the system wants there for some reason apparently, just like the other couple of hidden ones like WMDRM. If you didn't see it before and it now appeared it might have been hidden and the same thing that corrupt the FAT unhid it for some reason.
If you can see 2.88GB used on the PC, are you sure you have also have forced hidden files to display? Your data might be there but just hidden for some reason.
I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
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NEVER EVER do that to a media with a problem you might need to recover data from. This might just have ruined your last chance. On the opposite, when possible like on SD cards the first thing you'll want to do is set it as read-only.
When files are deleted, only their reference in the file table are, but the data itself is still present on the media, which allows recovery. But the locations the data is saved on are now marked as free, and anything you'll write on the card now can overwrite it, causing definitive loss.

Thanks a ton!!! The PC Inspector program worked great!! I was able to recover my files Next step, I guess, is to format the card and use it untill it decides to wipe my files out again. Of course my failth is the card will never be the same, and I'll keep a back up of the card also.....actually I was foolishly keeping the back-up for my Tilt on the card...can't trust that method anymore!
Thanks again for all the advise and information. As with all problems, you can always treat them as "learning opportunities", or...... throw the d*** thing out a window!!!!!

Same problem here, just ran into it last night and it's driving me nuts. Is there a way to recover/format the card from within the kaiser? Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.

sammy-e said:
Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Borrow, lend, or steal another card reader.

When I purchased this MicroCard, from ScanDisk, it came with a SD adapter plus a USB Card reader. I threw the USB Card reader in my desk thinking that I would not need this. I found out, by accident, that this USB card reader was the only way I could read the card on a PC. Built in card readers on both my home desk top and laptop would not access the card....
Just passing on this little bit of information, because it never occured to me that I had to use that USB Card reader!

This happened to my girlfriend's phone too. One day some of her programs just didn't work and most everything was gone on her card. Never fixed it, just reformatted card. Scary though.

Yeah, I tried recovering the data using TestDisk, saw some recommendations for it from others with the same problem, but wasn't able to get anywhere with it unfortunately. So in the end all I could do was format it and start over. Ahhh, backups... if I'd only made one.

I think this is a WM issue. Since other devices have the same problem.
here is a quote from another thread
Dutchman said:
I have the same issue with my tytn2.
Sometimes when i play some mp3s from my SD card and the device goes to standby or the program is closed my SD card is suddenly empty.
Removing the SD card and put it back in usually fixes it, sometimes a softreset also works.
So i believe this is a WM issue
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376050

I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly

mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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IT'S A COMPUTER, I always carry a spare card, simple, job done. more time for girls/beer/pizza.

scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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Any hints on how to disable this? I did a quick search and found mention of it but nothing detailing how to control it. Thanks.

scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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I disabled it w/ kaiser tweak. Still i have the issue

Has anyone had the issue while pretty much not ever using Windows Media Player mobile? I was playing DRM'd audio files, is that possibly a common theme?

Could it be Moving PIE Cache?
Happened to me too. 8GB card. Just getting back up and running...wish I had read this last night. I put a bunch of stuff back on the card. Oops. Oh well. I think the common thread may be:
moving your PIE Cache to the SD Card.
Anyone else with this problem also move PIE Cache? Used Memmaid 2.0 to change it.

different in my case, I haven't changed any of the cache settings for PIE.