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2.3 Rom upgrade success! question about internet

flashed my wizard and everything looks good! i set up my Media Net (cingular) and i noticed that i no longer get an EDGE connection. on my stock rom it would show an E for EDGE but now its showing a G for regular GPRS..is this something in the ROM? as far as i know i set the connection settings exactly as they were before.

Edge/GPRS are network availability dependent. I've sometimes had to soft reset my phone for it to show up - but nothing needs to be setup. Just be patient, try a soft reset maybe.

still nothing...the funny thing is it used to show in on the stock ROM..another thing i noticed is i cant find the proxy option under connection settings...

chon79 said:
flashed my wizard and everything looks good! i set up my Media Net (cingular) and i noticed that i no longer get an EDGE connection. on my stock rom it would show an E for EDGE but now its showing a G for regular GPRS..is this something in the ROM? as far as i know i set the connection settings exactly as they were before.
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It is possible that your current ROM doesn't have the option set to show the alternate EDGE icon. It's a registry setting that determines if the icon shows. Even if the icon is disabled the device will still connect via EDGE if it can.
You can use the Registry Wizard program to enable the EDGE icon (along with many other reg hacks), edit the registry yourself or run one of the many CAB files that makes the change for you.
As for the proxy settings, the default My ISP connection does not have a proxy setting. If you create another connection, it can have a proxy.

thanks man that helps alot..but do you know by any chance where i could find the EDGE setting in the registry?

Not offhand. I know it's been posted before so you can try a search, otherwise just use Registry Wizard. It's probably the easiest option.

chon79 said:
thanks man that helps alot..but do you know by any chance where i could find the EDGE setting in the registry?
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HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
Create a DWORD value called "EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon" and set its value to 1.

UMTS Band Page on AT&T Tilt

I can't seem to get the UMTS Band Page to show up on my Tilt. I did the same registry edit as with my 8525 - HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting "ShowUMTSBandPage" value set to "1". I tried several times, and verified the value was at "1" after a soft reset and even tried a hard reset, changed the registry again, and still no luck.
Any ideas?

I looked at my registry (ATT TILT) and it is "stock" just as you describe (value=1) and I don't have a UMTS Band Page anywhere from what I see. I have to go to /windows/ and tap the EXE file.
Hope that helps...????

After a quick search, I found an app that might help you. Version 2 is a "paid" program, but version 1 is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1384762&postcount=599

Hey Grizzley...Not exactly sure what EXE file you are talking about. Where is it and what is the name? Thanks!

grizzley said:
After a quick search, I found an app that might help you. Version 2 is a "paid" program, but version 1 is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1384762&postcount=599
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Not my program but a good one.. however you must use a new version for the tilt and I know the ver 1.2.3 will not work 100% correctly. It is prob worth the money if the newest ver works but there must be other ways to disable 3G just not as easy as the prog.

I hate to bring up an old thread, but has anyone found a resolution for this problem other than installing bandswitch? I did a search and while I may have overlooked a true solution, bandswitch (or similar) seems to be the only answer.

You could flash to the HTC ROM to get it.

jlczl said:
You could flash to the HTC ROM to get it.
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Ahhh, but of course! While that is indeed a viable option in general, right now I need to keep the stock rom in place given some network issues that are "under investigation." Hence why I would like to/need to avoid installing bandswitch and would like the "factory," if you will, way of limiting to WCDMA.

Just install a 10 button Comm Mgr that has a 3g toggle option (if that's what you're talking about).

klasikahl said:
Just install a 10 button Comm Mgr that has a 3g toggle option (if that's what you're talking about).
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Is there one with the classic look as opposed to the "touch' look?

"Beam" in Comm Manager in Kaiser?

Guys....
I am not aware there is infra-red hardware on the Kaiser/HTC8925! I do not see there is a need to have "Beam" in the Comm Manager window. If I am missing something please let me know, or better yet substitute it with EdgeData on/off.
Thanks and gratitude to all the cooks that are sharing their work with us all.

i too am wondering that

i thought beam was for transport of files via bluetooth??? i beam files to my friends phone...dunno

volcomnator999 said:
i thought beam was for transport of files via bluetooth??? i beam files to my friends phone...dunno
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NO.. Beam is a feature of Infra-Red hardware as in the HTC8525 / TyTn. It is used to transport files between two devices that have such hardware when placed close together. I can not say it is a faster method than BlueTooth, but it is more secure, as blue tooth integrity can be compromised. The Kaiser/HTC8925 does NOT have it.

Yep agree with above post, However, oddly in the case of the Kaiser the Beam icon will actualy start a send file or recieve file by means of BlueTooth.

To copy files (ringtones) to cell phone (Nokia 6280) I connected via Bluetooth and used the "Beam" to transfer it...

There's no IR, like others mentioned, it's related to BT in this case although it's a a bad choice of words.

Am I talking Urdu.... ?? or Swaheely..??
Are you all guys missing the point or it is just me????
I am not talking about the function of the "Beam". I am talking about the existence of the button "Beam" in Comm Manager, next to BlueTooth. So quit telling me your use of the "beam" while we all know clicking it on or off has no function, since transferring files via BlueTooth can be done with BlueTooth on alone.

i dont have it so....yeah

asfoor said:
Are you all guys missing the point or it is just me????
I am not talking about the function of the "Beam". I am talking about the existence of the button "Beam" in Comm Manager, next to BlueTooth. So quit telling me your use of the "beam" while we all know clicking it on or off has no function, since transferring files via BlueTooth can be done with BlueTooth on alone.
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You are the only one that must have it in the com manager.

asfoor said:
Are you all guys missing the point or it is just me????
I am not talking about the function of the "Beam". I am talking about the existence of the button "Beam" in Comm Manager, next to BlueTooth. So quit telling me your use of the "beam" while we all know clicking it on or off has no function, since transferring files via BlueTooth can be done with BlueTooth on alone.
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You CANNOT recieve bluetooth "beamed" contacts from standard (i.e. non-smart) mobiles while BEAM is off in the Comm Manager, it basically enables the bluetooth spec that allows it, sort of like a security option. This lets you have BT on for your headset ect. but "protects" you from recieving items like contacts sent from nearby bt devices.
Also no need to get angry at people replying, you asked for info and people were just letting you know what it sounded like you were asking originally.

Sendaris said:
You CANNOT recieve bluetooth "beamed" contacts from standard (i.e. non-smart) mobiles while BEAM is off in the Comm Manager, it basically enables the bluetooth spec that allows it, sort of like a security option. This lets you have BT on for your headset ect. but "protects" you from recieving items like contacts sent from nearby bt devices.
Also no need to get angry at people replying, you asked for info and people were just letting you know what it sounded like you were asking originally.
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Thank you... However the above mentioned "Security" can be easily achieved by changing the BT settings, so again there is no need to have the "Beam" in some comm manager plug-ins.
And..... I am not angry....

asfoor said:
Thank you... However the above mentioned "Security" can be easily achieved by changing the BT settings, so again there is no need to have the "Beam" in some comm manager plug-ins.
And..... I am not angry....
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It really depends on the ROM you are using or CAB file since they put it in. The stock HTC ROM didn't have that as an option. You can change it if you like via registry to another function.

Actually, here's the low-down. From WM5 onwards, even in the old TyTN, bluetooth couldn't receive files(not sure of sending) without the beam option on. Try turning BT on, Beam off, and receiving a file. Personally, I just keep it at on, and then I changed the option.

asfoor said:
Guys....
I am not aware there is infra-red hardware on the Kaiser/HTC8925! I do not see there is a need to have "Beam" in the Comm Manager window. If I am missing something please let me know, or better yet substitute it with EdgeData on/off.
Thanks and gratitude to all the cooks that are sharing their work with us all.
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Hi dude
It's right, there isn't IR (and "Beam" refer to it) on the Kaiser, but as some other one already said, there isn't the Beam button in the original HTC Comm Manager, so, maybe you are using an other Comm Manager with this option enabled (useful for other devices)!
Personally, i also got the Beam Button when install the Schap's CommManager and i removed it using Advanced configuration tools app (remove/customise all the buttons in th "Comm Manager" tab) and with this one you can add the 3G/GPRS button (turn it on/off), but no others like EDGE or HSDPA untill now (if you check any Comm Manager with these new one let me know too, )!
Hope to help you!
Ciao

@[email protected] said:
Hi dude
It's right, there isn't IR (and "Beam" refer to it) on the Kaiser, but as some other one already said, there isn't the Beam button in the original HTC Comm Manager, so, maybe you are using an other Comm Manager with this option enabled (useful for other devices)!
Personally, i also got the Beam Button when install the Schap's CommManager and i removed it using Advanced configuration tools app (remove/customise all the buttons in th "Comm Manager" tab) and with this one you can add the 3G/GPRS button (turn it on/off), but no others like EDGE or HSDPA untill now (if you check any Comm Manager with these new one let me know too, )!
Hope to help you!
Ciao
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Dutty has it removed in his V4 DTouch ROM. He substituted it with Data on/off.

To add or remove the beam in Comm Manager, you could access the registry or install Schaps Advanced Config. tool. After installation, click Menu, Comm Manager Settings, Check or un-check the icons of your choice.
Thanks to @[email protected] for pointing that out. I just loaded Schaps Adv. Configurator and got it handled.

asfoor said:
To add or remove the beam in Comm Manager, you could access the registry or install Schaps Advanced Config. tool. After installation, click Menu, Comm Manager Settings, Check or un-check the icons of your choice.
Thanks to @[email protected] for pointing that out. I just loaded Schaps Adv. Configurator and got it handled.
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Not at all dude!
I already had the Data Button in the Default and Schaps Comm Managers, but not the 3G (...and Voip Button too) in the Default, anyway, can you explain me something?
Turning off the Data button i close all the data connections (GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, and maybe UMTS too), right? and turing off the 3G, are the EDGE, HSDPA and UMTS connections still opened or not (as result)? ...for this i was talking about different Buttons for EDGE or HSDPA in the Comm Manager!!
Sorry in advance if it's a stupid question?
Thx

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Not at all dude!
I already had the Data Button in the Default and Schaps Comm Managers, but not the 3G (...and Voip Button too) in the Default, anyway, can you explain me something?
Turning off the Data button i close all the data connections (GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, and maybe UMTS too), right? and turing off the 3G, are the EDGE, HSDPA and UMTS connections still opened or not (as result)? ...for this i was talking about different Buttons for EDGE or HSDPA in the Comm Manager!!
Sorry in advance if it's a stupid question?
Thx
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I want to take a shot at answering your question, although I do not fully understand the question. When you shut down Data Exchange through Edge, that's all you shut down. 3G and HSDPA through GPRS still function. Edge is a stand alone secure data transfer protocol. If you shut down 3G, then only Edge is up. If your service provider offers full edge service, you can surf the internet with Edge alone as in the case of AT&T MediaNet package.
I hope I answered your question correctly.

"Beam" is a must for accepting files via Bluetooth!!!
As to the original question, of wheteher or not "beam" is needed in the kaiser com manager, I personally like the the idea. Reason is (as stated previously in this post), if the "recieve all incoming beams" box is unticked in start-settings-connections-beam , then you CAN NOT accept any incoming data (ie- vcard/contact/ringtone/files/etc...) via bluetooth. As also stated before, you can have your bluetooth on and operational with a headset or what have you, but then any time you need to accept a file/etc from your pc or a friend's phone, you MUST turn on "beam": and that covers bluetooth "beams" or ir "beams" alike. It is a bit mis-leading in a way I guess to some, but it is nice to be able to just press your comm mgr button and click beam/bluetooth to accept a file on the go, as opposed to going into connections and enabling it all. Well, I hope this was useful info to the original question.
In addition, all previous devices with beam AND bluetooth also worked this way. The tytn, apache, and all the other variants running wm5/wm6 have all needed the "receive all incoming beams" checked when receiving data over bt or ir. As I said before, it only seems misleading to folks who are used to having a beam option with an ir equipped device, but the kaiser/tilt still needs the beam option for bluetooth beams.

Comm Manager Problem

I have read and searched but still have a problem, I am back to running the OEM ATT rom and have tried 3 different comm managers and nothing takes. They install fine but only the default remains. I have tried kaiser tweak and advanced tweak to get the band tab to show so I can disable the 3g to save battery but the change doesn't take.
Would someone be kind enough to show me the registry string to show the band tab or even have any ideas on getting a comm manager to take?
Input is appreciated.
I installed 4 different WM6 roms today, any of which would have been great but I had no sound on any of them. I have a feeling it has to do with being a kaiser or a tilt specific rom but I am unsure.
Any help on the above issue would help keep me from loosing my mind until I can get the ROM issue settled.

Steelpreacher said:
I have read and searched but still have a problem, I am back to running the OEM ATT rom and have tried 3 different comm managers and nothing takes. They install fine but only the default remains. I have tried kaiser tweak and advanced tweak to get the band tab to show so I can disable the 3g to save battery but the change doesn't take.
Would someone be kind enough to show me the registry string to show the band tab or even have any ideas on getting a comm manager to take?
Input is appreciated.
I installed 4 different WM6 roms today, any of which would have been great but I had no sound on any of them. I have a feeling it has to do with being a kaiser or a tilt specific rom but I am unsure.
Any help on the above issue would help keep me from loosing my mind until I can get the ROM issue settled.
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When I installed my new comm manager I had to unistall the default one to make the new one work.
Your sound problems seem to be due to a incompatible radio, When you flash a new rom, you have to make sure that it works with your exsisting radio or you have to also flash a new radio. Hope this helps.
Edit: Make suer that the new comm manager has a 3G switch on it. not all of them have this feature.

OK, now the question how do I uninstall the default comm manager? it isn't in the remove programs so is it a manual remove? If so could you point me to a thread I might have missed on this. Thank you

Steelpreacher said:
OK, now the question how do I uninstall the default comm manager? it isn't in the remove programs so is it a manual remove? If so could you point me to a thread I might have missed on this. Thank you
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or you can keep the same comm manager and install schapps advancedconfig
I've attached it below. Once you install it find where it installed too mostly likely in programs but it depends on the rom you are running.
once you open the program to go menu, which is the right softkey, then comm manager settings. Just highlight the options you want in your comm manager. Then tap done and ok.
This is a great tool to have on your device anyhow. Play around with it. Have a good one.

Using Phoneweaver for profiles...need a small app/mortscript to toggle 3G on/off

I know PhoneAlarm does this, but I don't like having to install SecondToday to use it. It seems to slow my device and switching today screens takes about three seconds.
Anyway, I like Phoneweaver better because it has a popup profile switcher/commmgr menu I can assign to the PTT button. It's good, but it can't toggle 3G like PhoneAlarm. However, it can run an exe on a profile change so all I would need is a small app that can turn 3G on and off. I searched but didn't see anything that appeared to do the trick. Any ideas?

i can't believe something like this doesn't exist. a google search turned up some threads about skschema from 2006 so i guess i'll try those.
no other solution?

i found this thread which has a toggle3g mortscript. i installed it, but it doesn't work, or at least i can't get it to work. it launches to the confirmation screen. but i click OK and nothing happens.
can any of you mortscript experts help out? and, yes, i changed the vjvolubilis directory in the script from \Extended Rom\Program Files to \Program Files\
also any ideas of how to skip the confirmation screen? by the way, i tested it on my old phone, a tilt, which has a dutty rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2145594&postcount=371

If you edit the mort script you can change this:
Code:
ChoiceDefault( "Toggle 3G","Do you wish to proceed with toggling 3G?",0,10,"Cancel","OK" )
case (1)
#Message( "Cancel" )
Exit
case (2)
#Message( "OK" )
call( "setOpMode" )
case (0)
#Message( "Cancel" )
Exit
EndChoice
to something like this:
Code:
call( "setOpMode" )
That should make each run of the script toggle the 3G reg setting.

thanks. i've been tinkering with it with some help in this other thread also and the poster suggested the same change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3024082#post3024082
but like i said in that thread, no matter what opmode is set to by the script, HSDPA remains on even though the wireless manager shows that 3G is off (but if i turn 3G off through the wireless manager it completely disables 3G and the today screen only shows an edge connection).
so the script is missing something to completely disable 3G. i just don't know what.
UPDATE: i even tried skchema scripts from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1079636&postcount=5), same results. so obviously simply changing the value of opmode doesn't completely disable 3G.
UPDATE 2: i even tried bandswitch 1.2.3, using the command line. it made the registry changes and the wireless manager showed 3g off, but the H was still on the today screen. so it's something more needed to completely disable 3G via script.

Yeah, I've been poking around with it for a few minutes and noticed there's a few additional reg keys that need to be altered in order to toggle 3G.
I added HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS\BandSelection\Band, as that is another one that's changed via the Band settings page, but there's still more that needs to be touched.

agentdr8 said:
Yeah, I've been poking around with it for a few minutes and noticed there's a few additional reg keys that need to be altered in order to toggle 3G.
I added HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS\BandSelection\Band, as that is another one that's changed via the Band settings page, but there's still more that needs to be touched.
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i noticed the band selection folder, too, but i didn't notice a change. which key changed when you turned 3G off via the wireless manager?
man, it would be great if i could just command line the wireless manager.

After further testing, and using SKtracker, it would appear the changes for 3G/Auto -> GSM are more than just registry changes. Not sure what else it's doing, but modifying the reg settings and cycling the phone radio doesn't do squat. I guess that's why there's programs like Bandswitch/CMP and PhoneAlarm (full). Maybe schap knows what else is involved, as he added a 3G toggle to the 9 button CommMgr on the Kaiser.
This is what Daniel Herrero said about the 2G/3G switching:
Hi.
If you are talking about connections (close idle connections, disable them, etc) then Its win32 api standard. If you talk about switch between 2g-3g then I did reverse ingineering of htc binaries. It was easiest on HTC Hermes, Universal and Athena but in Kaiser (Tilt) It was much more dificult (Strange calls to undocumented htc methods with variable parameters). I am scared about incoming htc models....
Dani
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So it would seem a simple reg change & radio cycle won't cut it.

agentdr8 said:
After further testing, and using SKtracker, it would appear the changes for 3G/Auto -> GSM are more than just registry changes. Not sure what else it's doing, but modifying the reg settings and cycling the phone radio doesn't do squat. I guess that's why there's programs like Bandswitch/CMP and PhoneAlarm (full). Maybe schap knows what else is involved, as he added a 3G toggle to the 9 button CommMgr on the Kaiser.
This is what Daniel Herrero said about the 2G/3G switching:
So it would seem a simple reg change & radio cycle won't cut it.
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i appreciate your help.