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Hi friends,
I have a strange case where some files from the storage card simply aren't there any more.
It happened to me with the Destinator application - all the files under the directory were gone.
And now the same thing happened to me with all the pictures and videos that I had!!!
Trust me, I am not deleting it by mistake or played with the sd card...
Any one had this problem or can suggest what to do?
By the way it is a 2G by Starex.
Thanks
Problem update
Well....
It seems that the OS doesn't see the files.
I was able to see my pictures in the same directory only from my laptop connecting to the mobile device.
When it happend to me before with my navigation application, even the application icon from the start menu changed to an unrecognized icon.
It appears to be a problem with large SD cards. The WM5 do have it and also the WM6 still have it. On my WM5 the problem was large to the rsult that one day I lost everything from the card and had to them again from scratch, I concluded (although I do not know how true it might be...) that it was caused on the combination of having used the destinator and then use the camera and save pictures on the SD card. The result after some serious problems was to reformat the SD card and hard reset my PPC. Now I have installed WM6, some times after soft reset does not read the card, but with a second soft reset the problem is solved...
Hope that I have been some help to you...
steladamo said:
It appears to be a problem with large SD cards. The WM5 do have it and also the WM6 still have it. On my WM5 the problem was large to the rsult that one day I lost everything from the card and had to them again from scratch, I concluded (although I do not know how true it might be...) that it was caused on the combination of having used the destinator and then use the camera and save pictures on the SD card. The result after some serious problems was to reformat the SD card and hard reset my PPC. Now I have installed WM6, some times after soft reset does not read the card, but with a second soft reset the problem is solved...
Hope that I have been some help to you...
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Thanks, this is bad news.
So now I need to move to a smaller SD or upgrade to WM6?
How does WM6 works on the trinity?
Eldi said:
Thanks, this is bad news.
So now I need to move to a smaller SD or upgrade to WM6?
How does WM6 works on the trinity?
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Either use smaller cap cards, 2G and 4G cards are problem prone, or bear with it. It's a HW problem with HTC, that occurs with more than one type of device. It did have fix for Artemis, but still NOT for Trinity.
Alternative, you can use some preventive measures. Try
search for a software called SDSentry which was written for use with Artemis, but it's also compatible with Trin.
Good luck.
ww2250 said:
Either use smaller cap cards, 2G and 4G cards are problem prone, or bear with it. It's a HW problem with HTC, that occurs with more than one type of device. It did have fix for Artemis, but still NOT for Trinity.
Alternative, you can use some preventive measures. Try
search for a software called SDSentry which was written for use with Artemis, but it's also compatible with Trin.
Good luck.
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Thanks! I will look for that software.
I'm not sure what happened, but I was using PIE to view a website. I followed a link from another site and the new window opened about 50% and never loaded. After about 10 minutes of just sitting there I did a soft reset. Now when I go to use PIE it loads about 5% of a page and hangs / freezes and causes me to have to soft reset.
I deleted all cookies, temp files and history but no go. I looked in the \startup\ dir and there isn't anything new in there. There aren't any programs running either.
Everything else on the phone is working fine as far as I know.
Any ideas on how to get my PIE back?
Opps! Sorry, I just noticed I posted this in UPGRADING and it shouldn't have been there!
Same here but I am using NetFront v3.3 and Opera Mini. Let me know if resolved this problem.
I think I might have fix it. I fired it up and it appears to be working better now.
My OPERA 8.65 worked fine, and so did everything else.
What I had done was install Schap's Advancedconfig. After DESTALLING it (because there wasn't anything in there that you cant tweak by hand) it didn't reset the original values!
Anyway, the Glyph cache was changed and so was the file system cache and
file system filter cache. I guess it was TOO BIG and was greezing it. I changed the limi for GLYPHCACHE down to 16384 and did a soft reset and it seems to be back to normal.
Let me know if you get yours fixed.
usually pie freezes if u set the cookies to be stored on the storage card instead of device. It is also known that pie freezes when you use flash player 7 for ppc.
I've had cookies saved to storage since day 1 and never had any problems. I have read other's reporting the same thing as you suggested though. But for me, I have never experienced this problem.
if you have att tilt...what i did was install the removehiddenproxy.cab and it made the PIE freeze go away...you can find it in dutty's collection of cabs in the regular kaiser forums....what ROM are you using because some ROMs use the PIE scroll fix cab within the ROM and it has been known to make PIE freeze on most ATT Tilt devices...
just move all your temp internet files/cache/etc back to the device storage and it will work.
That solved my hanging issues.... I had to hard reset earlier on when I din know what to do....
Nice,
Was havin the exact same issue,and did have my temp stuff on the storage card-that did the trick!!! moved them back to the device and BINGO-working great.
Just working away on my brand new Treo Pro - came across the same problem. Never had this issue with any other phone before.
When Cookies, Temp Internet Files and History were moved to storage card - I locked up. move them back and it works perfectly.
I put JUST the Temporary Internet Files on the storage card and left history and cookies on the device - that seems to work also. Guess I will run with that.
squint said:
Just working away on my brand new Treo Pro - came across the same problem. Never had this issue with any other phone before.
When Cookies, Temp Internet Files and History were moved to storage card - I locked up. move them back and it works perfectly.
I put JUST the Temporary Internet Files on the storage card and left history and cookies on the device - that seems to work also. Guess I will run with that.
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How do you move them back?
Yesterday my girlfriend told me all of a sudden her programs on her storage card stopped working. Well come to find out, it was like everything related to windows on the card was deleted somehow (program files, application data, etc.). She used to have the same card in a flip phone so the folders from that like music and pictures still exist. She hasn't changed anything on her phone, I usually do all that for her, so she wouldn't have done anything in that department.
Anyone heard of this happening before?
Any help would be greatful, I would like to possibly retrieve some files before I reformat the card.
Thanks in advance.
Step one: Buy a SD reader. You can get one on Ebay, Radioshack, etc. Very cheap. 5-25 dollars. I think 25 is even pushing it.
Step two: see if you can retrieve files with reader
Step three: after retrieving said files, format your SD card.
You forgot step four:
don't let girlfriends use technology and don't trust anyone when they say nothing happened
j/k
Very true. She sometimes can be a little thick, but with Windows mobile, who knows what can happen.
I've had the exact same thing happen to me. AT&T Tilt and 6GB Sandisk MicroSD.
File Explorer on the phone shows nothing on the card. Tried reading the card with a card reader on the PC and it also shows the card is blank. However, the Tilt's memory usage program still shows 3GB of memory is used on the card.
gman8966 said:
Anyone heard of this happening before?
Thanks in advance.
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Same problem here (few times). Even change the SD card. Maybe something in power managment (kaiser tweak?)
Same problem here - lost a TomTom map just randomly - copied map back on, same files, same path.... still using and extra 1gb....
Good stuff...
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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oui oui said:
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
tom2402 said:
Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
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I have not heard about this plugin either. Interested!
I have had the same issue having lost tom tom maps pictures etc. I have actually installed the artemis card coruption fix as I had that phone b4 this one & it still has happened to me a few times. I am going to format card one last time & the phone from default & see if this occurs again, as I believe it to be caused due to excess heat from the device but that is only a hunch as each time it has occurred the phone has been red hot prior to this.
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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i have read that this has happened to some people .. not me yet (fingers crossed) don't know what causes this. You could try a recovery software and see if you can get the stuff back.
Can you or anyone suggest a recovery software? Checking the MicroSD on my laptop shows 2.88 GB being used, (and of course 2.78 GB Free) so the data should be there. I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
Just wondering...is there some kind of virus out there that would do this? For all the data to be "hidden" and a new folder to be created....the card just didn't create a folder by itself....
WM a card killer
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
rafgerm said:
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
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Yup, I used that program too. Recovered "missing files" problems on my previous hw6515 and twice on my TytnII 8GB micro SDdisk.
I've always had that "FilesToBeDeleted" folder too, it's normally hidden and when I delete it it comes back. Nothing special, just some folder the system wants there for some reason apparently, just like the other couple of hidden ones like WMDRM. If you didn't see it before and it now appeared it might have been hidden and the same thing that corrupt the FAT unhid it for some reason.
If you can see 2.88GB used on the PC, are you sure you have also have forced hidden files to display? Your data might be there but just hidden for some reason.
I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
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NEVER EVER do that to a media with a problem you might need to recover data from. This might just have ruined your last chance. On the opposite, when possible like on SD cards the first thing you'll want to do is set it as read-only.
When files are deleted, only their reference in the file table are, but the data itself is still present on the media, which allows recovery. But the locations the data is saved on are now marked as free, and anything you'll write on the card now can overwrite it, causing definitive loss.
Thanks a ton!!! The PC Inspector program worked great!! I was able to recover my files Next step, I guess, is to format the card and use it untill it decides to wipe my files out again. Of course my failth is the card will never be the same, and I'll keep a back up of the card also.....actually I was foolishly keeping the back-up for my Tilt on the card...can't trust that method anymore!
Thanks again for all the advise and information. As with all problems, you can always treat them as "learning opportunities", or...... throw the d*** thing out a window!!!!!
Same problem here, just ran into it last night and it's driving me nuts. Is there a way to recover/format the card from within the kaiser? Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
sammy-e said:
Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Borrow, lend, or steal another card reader.
When I purchased this MicroCard, from ScanDisk, it came with a SD adapter plus a USB Card reader. I threw the USB Card reader in my desk thinking that I would not need this. I found out, by accident, that this USB card reader was the only way I could read the card on a PC. Built in card readers on both my home desk top and laptop would not access the card....
Just passing on this little bit of information, because it never occured to me that I had to use that USB Card reader!
This happened to my girlfriend's phone too. One day some of her programs just didn't work and most everything was gone on her card. Never fixed it, just reformatted card. Scary though.
Yeah, I tried recovering the data using TestDisk, saw some recommendations for it from others with the same problem, but wasn't able to get anywhere with it unfortunately. So in the end all I could do was format it and start over. Ahhh, backups... if I'd only made one.
I think this is a WM issue. Since other devices have the same problem.
here is a quote from another thread
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I have the same issue with my tytn2.
Sometimes when i play some mp3s from my SD card and the device goes to standby or the program is closed my SD card is suddenly empty.
Removing the SD card and put it back in usually fixes it, sometimes a softreset also works.
So i believe this is a WM issue
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376050
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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IT'S A COMPUTER, I always carry a spare card, simple, job done. more time for girls/beer/pizza.
scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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Any hints on how to disable this? I did a quick search and found mention of it but nothing detailing how to control it. Thanks.
scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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I disabled it w/ kaiser tweak. Still i have the issue
Has anyone had the issue while pretty much not ever using Windows Media Player mobile? I was playing DRM'd audio files, is that possibly a common theme?
Could it be Moving PIE Cache?
Happened to me too. 8GB card. Just getting back up and running...wish I had read this last night. I put a bunch of stuff back on the card. Oops. Oh well. I think the common thread may be:
moving your PIE Cache to the SD Card.
Anyone else with this problem also move PIE Cache? Used Memmaid 2.0 to change it.
different in my case, I haven't changed any of the cache settings for PIE.
Let me preface by saying that I know almost no one uses PIE anymore. I typically don't either, but until a stable Opera 9.5 is out, I'm using Opera Mini, PIE, and Skyfire. PIE unfortunately, is the only one of those three that I can access my bank account on right now.
PIE freezes the phone every single time I use it now. I don't know why. I have plenty of free memory left (both ROM and RAM) and nothing running in the background when I try to open it. I have KaiserTweak as well as MemMaid... should I tweak the IE settings in either of those apps? I don't know what the deal is, and I hate that I have to rely on PIE, but I do for now
did you use advanced config and change the temp internet files storage location to the SD card?
Yes. That was one of the first things I did when I got the phone. Are you saying this is good for performance or bad?
I'm saying thats your problem.
Well it's more of a suggested problem, it's a know issue with doing that.
ChumleyEX said:
I'm saying thats your problem.
Well it's more of a suggested problem, it's a know issue with doing that.
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Ok, I'll try putting it back to default and see how that goes. Thanks!
I had the same exact problem at once and i had to disable the proxy each time and sometimes it still wouldn't work. I hated using the internet. I then decided to do a hard reset and it fixed things (or i might have flashed to another ROM, can't exactly remember).
I migrated from a Wizard to a Kaiser and I ported quite a few things from old Kitchen - one of these was the registry entries to put IE temporary stuff on the Storage Card. This was my first mistake and I was flamed for asking why (search, search, search apparently...).
For some reason IE on the Kaiser dies a death when the cache etc is set to use the Storage Card. I changed the .RGU files in my kitchen and flashed a new ROM and I have not had a problem since.
Andy
Thanks for the posts guys, I appreciate it. I'm going to undo my Storage Card cache settings and hopefully all will be good.
Yep, that fixed it! Thanks again everyone!