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There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver
There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks
You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.
I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini
Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it
Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.
Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?
As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform
WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)
Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.
Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?
picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html
dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?
MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.
Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".
I've been looking for a broswer that acts like Safari (you see the whole page, and then click to zoom in, etc....) Opera Mini does this, but I can't download files from it, and I always have to start java, etc.....Mobile doesn't seem to do the same thing (whole page, like Safari).....are there any browser that will duplicate what Safari/Opera Mini do, and still allow downloading, etc....??? Or does Opera Mobile have that hidden away in it's settings somewhere? I'm not really looking for favorites or opinions, just the function of opening a full page on my screen, then clicking to zoom in to a part.....
thanks in advance!
JacenSolo2001 said:
I've been looking for a broswer that acts like Safari (you see the whole page, and then click to zoom in, etc....) Opera Mini does this, but I can't download files from it, and I always have to start java, etc.....Mobile doesn't seem to do the same thing (whole page, like Safari).....are there any browser that will duplicate what Safari/Opera Mini do, and still allow downloading, etc....??? Or does Opera Mobile have that hidden away in it's settings somewhere? I'm not really looking for favorites or opinions, just the function of opening a full page on my screen, then clicking to zoom in to a part.....
thanks in advance!
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Theres a lot of Opera Mini stuff in the link in my sig, I've not read it all, but the mod who wrote it is an expert on Opera Mini and Java.
EDIT:
BTW you can now download files in Opera mini 4.1 beta
Download and upload files
On phones with JSR-75, you can now upload and download files using Opera Mini 4.1 beta, without being re-routed to your phone’s native browser. Update your blog while on the go. Upload photos to your web site or social network. Add attachments easily to web-based email, and download other non media-rich content to your phone using Opera Mini 4.1 beta.
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Thanks
Dave
what java emulator are u using dude?
the java us something called cloudy (something like that)
Normally I use Cloudyfa_EsmertecJbed (Cab in the Opera Mini Link).
At the Moment Sleuth's ROM has it cooked in version:
Esmertec Jbed Build ID: 20070726.1.1
Thanks
Dave
Opera mini is a super fast browser but some of it's functionality is scaled down. In general, you should be able to download from mini... but not as robust as others.
IMO Opera 9.5 (official version not released yet) is very promising. It has a very good download manager, browses similar to Opera Mini and is much more robust in terms of overall browser functionality, certificates, etc. It's worth a look. It's beta is all over this board if you do a search.
today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?
here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.
Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister
yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.
Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.
I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?
Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards
raines43 said:
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
andy2111 said:
and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.
i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?
Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!
i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???
Yes, here u go....
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]
intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
intx said:
This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?
You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]
Hello
As far as I know,that Mozilla Fennec is nowadays available only for desktop emulated or Linux Nokia N810 version.
Now,I have read this new...
http://www.msmobilenews.com/windows...refox-named-fennec-and-released-in-alpha.html
You can see the screenshot up-right taken from WM device(seems to be as our,depending on scheme).
So my question is:
How can we start it under Windows Mobile? I didn't found any WM installation.
if you ever find out please pm me.
On the wiki of the mozilla website, it looks like the release is somewhere next week. link.
i read about it. It has to release in a week.
Here is an article you can read:
http://www.wmexperts.com/firefox-mobile-may-be-touch-pro-next-week
They are targeting an Alpha release in the first week of Feb. I can't wait to try it out.
Ask of now, there are no offical downloads, yet.
Another article:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5140839/firefox-mobile-headed-for-windows-mobile-as-early-as-next-week
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
thoughtlesskyle said:
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
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Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
thoughtlesskyle said:
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
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I dont see anything thats says it supports flash. I would imagine that if it did support flash it would be made very clear as it would be a great "selling point"
New Skyfire build
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
jsmith8858 said:
Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
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Isn't Opera a Server app as well?
I thought the only browsers that contacted the websites directly was IE and NetFront.
here's more recent leaked shots: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1737
The pre-release version does not run well at all...
Comsat said:
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
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Cant find this... True VGA?
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
exactly, they claim that you get a new menu item if there is an update, never seen it though.
Runs quite nice, true flash support including youtube direct play. Just a litle bit slower as Opera mini.
For me the third browser when you realy need flash support.
thoughtlesskyle said:
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
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Is there a new skyfire that supports VGA? I went on the site but doesn't show the version..
I have read about pre-release build of Fennec,but experiences are very bad for now. We will see next week,how it will be. I want to try Skyfire as well,but it is available only for US as my informations are. Or is it working in EU as well?
It is available in EU to, just go to "get.skyfire.com" and download the WM 6 version. Go there with IE as you need a WAP browser.
Yes, the pre release of fennec sucks...
I have PIE and Opera Mini and neither seem to do what someone needs.
Anytimeview.com is the site and being able to click on connect and have something happen (in relation to connecting) is what is needed.
So
For those of you that have different browsers can you test that site for me and let me know if your browser works?
I appriciate your help. I suppose if there isn't a reply when I wake up, I will start installing the various browsers that are free and trying them.
With Opera 9.5 on the Kaiser I get a JavaScript message box saying "Only one DVR Client 4500 can be run". When I click ok, I'm thrown back to a blank page.
With Firefox on Linux I get some broken graphics and at the bottom of the page: "ActiveX control failed to load! -- Please check browser security settings."
So I guess this page won't work with any browser different from IE on desktop Windows.
Yes i think the issue is it uses activex
Not sure about the java script error as i got that but can happen on other sites.
Tryed PIE, Opera, Mini, Skyfire
Same as above, when I tried 9.5 cooked into Ansars rom listed in my sig.
I can confirm that it did not work on Iris browser's latest version (which is quite capable actually), nor did it work on either Opera Mobile or Mini, or PIE, or Skyfire. I agree with stylez, the issue seems to be that a desktop version of Windows is required to use the page's ActiveX control.
Dave