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Buying a tilt from newegg?

Hey, i am planning on buying a tilt from newegg for 149.99 with 2 year activation. I am wondering if anyone here has done that yet, and if i need to make a whole new att account or if i can just add another 2 years to my old one that has already expired. Thanks much!

you need a whole new individual account with a new number.

VTECaddict said:
you need a whole new individual account with a new number.
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This is not true, you do not need a whole new individual account or need to sign up with a new number. If your contract is expired (as mine was) you can purchase this as an upgrade. At the end of the purchase process there is a field for number portability. You leave the box for "carrier" default, put your current number in the "number portability field", and enter your account number with the word "upgrade" at the end. This information was told to me by newegg's AT&T rep. I just purchased my phone from newegg tonight and successfully upgraded my account to a new 2 year plan all while keeping my current number and getting the $150 price.

rate plans and options from newegg
i bought the 8525 about 6 months ago from them. under there deal for 6 months. my contract with them is about up and i was going to cancel cingular (i know about the fee) and put a new account to buy the new phone.
i was originally going to pay the full price at the att store until one of the people there told me they couldnt sell it to me unless i got a pda plan. (there loss)
now, are there any special requirements from buying from newegg? are they going to require me to buy this data plan as well? currently im on the media net plan, and thats because of the cheaper price, and the fact that i dont use that much internet. is new egg or att going to "force" me to get that pda plan? and as far as newegg goes, when i bought the 8525, i was able to get the cheapest rate plan, nation 450. will i still be able to do this when getting the tilt?

unvaluablespace said:
i bought the 8525 about 6 months ago from them. under there deal for 6 months. my contract with them is about up and i was going to cancel cingular (i know about the fee) and put a new account to buy the new phone.
i was originally going to pay the full price at the att store until one of the people there told me they couldnt sell it to me unless i got a pda plan. (there loss)
now, are there any special requirements from buying from newegg? are they going to require me to buy this data plan as well? currently im on the media net plan, and thats because of the cheaper price, and the fact that i dont use that much internet. is new egg or att going to "force" me to get that pda plan? and as far as newegg goes, when i bought the 8525, i was able to get the cheapest rate plan, nation 450. will i still be able to do this when getting the tilt?
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There are no "special" requirements for buying from newegg. The only requirements are that you sign up for a 2 year plan (either as a new customer or as an upgrade) and get any of the voice plans. All the voice plans that are available on AT&T's website are also available through newegg. They also have numerous additional data/text/media packages that slightly differ from what AT&T has on their website, but its generally the same. The only problem I had is that they do not have the Unlimited PDA data connect plan when signing up through newegg. I called AT&T and they said when I activate the phone I can upgrade my plan to the PDA connect without losing the newegg discount. (As part of the contract thru newegg, if you change any part of your plan, voice or add ons, to a lower cost plan within 181 days you lose the discount and have to pay back newegg $250. After 181 you are free to change your plan.)
Also, whoever at AT&T told you that you *must* get a data plan with the 8925 is full of sh*t. You are not required to buy a data plan with any phone besides the iphone. I would have asked to speak to their superior or called AT&T corporate on the spot to clarify.

You must have a plan when the rebate goes through. Dunno if ATT still has one but that was my experience buying it the Friday it came out.

That is a really good deal. Does anyone think AT&T would match that price if I go into the store? I guess if they cant I could always return it and go with New Egg.

Terms And Conditions
* If you purchase a new wireless communication service plan from AT&T (which is not a substitute for an existing service plan you have with AT&T) through Newegg.com, and purchase a new wireless communication device, such as a cell phone, from Newegg.com, as part of the same order, the price for the device will include a discount of $250.00 (the "Equipment Discount"). YOU MUST REIMBURSE NEWEGG.COM THE AMOUNT OF THE EQUIPMENT DISCOUNT, IF YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN THE WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SERVICE PLAN PURCHASED AS PART OF THE ORDER IN GOOD STANDING FOR A MINIMUM OF 181 DAYS AFTER ACTIVATION. The wireless communication service plan will be considered "not to be in good standing" if:
You fail to pay the balance due by the payment due date in any month.
You cancel the service.
You change the service plan to a different service plan with a lower monthly service rate.
You transfer the equipment to another service plan.
You transfer any phone number associated with the service plan to another service plan.
You use the service plan purchased as part of the same order to replace an existing service plan you have with the same company.
You authorize Newegg.com to initiate a charge to the credit card or other payment method you used to purchase the Equipment in the amount of $250.00, the Equipment Discount, if it is due.

pmow said:
You must have a plan when the rebate goes through. Dunno if ATT still has one but that was my experience buying it the Friday it came out.
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Do you mean just a voice plan? When I ordered mine on friday I do not think you were required to have a data plan added on, only a voice is required IIRC. I got a data plan anyways so it didn't make much of a difference to me.
I think the part that is screwing most people up in the terms that slcui56 posted is this part:
"* If you purchase a new wireless communication service plan from AT&T (which is not a substitute for an existing service plan you have with AT&T) through Newegg.com, and purchase a new wireless communication device, such as a cell phone, from Newegg.com, as part of the same order, the price for the device will include a discount of $250.00 (the "Equipment Discount")."
You can not substitute for an existing plan if you are still under contract. I had a plan with AT&T but my contract was up, so this replaced my existing plan. I think newegg/AT&T could have worded this better.

sclui56 said:
Terms And Conditions
* If you purchase a new wireless communication service plan from AT&T (which is not a substitute for an existing service plan you have with AT&T) through Newegg.com, and purchase a new wireless communication device, such as a cell phone, from Newegg.com, as part of the same order, the price for the device will include a discount of $250.00 (the "Equipment Discount"). YOU MUST REIMBURSE NEWEGG.COM THE AMOUNT OF THE EQUIPMENT DISCOUNT, IF YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN THE WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SERVICE PLAN PURCHASED AS PART OF THE ORDER IN GOOD STANDING FOR A MINIMUM OF 181 DAYS AFTER ACTIVATION. The wireless communication service plan will be considered "not to be in good standing" if:
You fail to pay the balance due by the payment due date in any month.
You cancel the service.
You change the service plan to a different service plan with a lower monthly service rate.
You transfer the equipment to another service plan.
You transfer any phone number associated with the service plan to another service plan.
You use the service plan purchased as part of the same order to replace an existing service plan you have with the same company.
You authorize Newegg.com to initiate a charge to the credit card or other payment method you used to purchase the Equipment in the amount of $250.00, the Equipment Discount, if it is due.
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So if I'm interpreting this correctly it looks like this offer is not eligible for a upgrade and only for new customers.

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So if I'm interpreting this correctly it looks like this offer is not eligible for a upgrade and only for new customers.
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Did you bother to read this whole thread? Yes you can use this deal as an upgrade if you are not already under a contract. I just did this on friday.

marm0lade said:
Did you bother to read this whole thread? Yes you can use this deal as an upgrade if you are not already under a contract. I just did this on friday.
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Yes, I did read the whole thread and you dont need to be rude about it. I do realize that you spoke to their AT&T rep but it seems to contradict their own terms and conditions that you need to agree to when you purchase the phone on their website. To me it seems that they could potentially charge you $250 when you do it as an upgrade. Did you ask the rep about this when you spoke to them?

I notice one can select Media Max off the newegg deal, is Media Max ($19.99) enough for the Tilt? IOW, could I use the IE on the tilt with MediaMax or is MediaMax intended for WAP access.

marm0lade said:
There are no "special" requirements for buying from newegg. The only requirements are that you sign up for a 2 year plan (either as a new customer or as an upgrade) and get any of the voice plans. All the voice plans that are available on AT&T's website are also available through newegg. They also have numerous additional data/text/media packages that slightly differ from what AT&T has on their website, but its generally the same. The only problem I had is that they do not have the Unlimited PDA data connect plan when signing up through newegg. I called AT&T and they said when I activate the phone I can upgrade my plan to the PDA connect without losing the newegg discount. (As part of the contract thru newegg, if you change any part of your plan, voice or add ons, to a lower cost plan within 181 days you lose the discount and have to pay back newegg $250. After 181 you are free to change your plan.)
Also, whoever at AT&T told you that you *must* get a data plan with the 8925 is full of sh*t. You are not required to buy a data plan with any phone besides the iphone. I would have asked to speak to their superior or called AT&T corporate on the spot to clarify.
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At New york in Manhattan (Times square and 42nd Street)
they said it's required... I argued with the employee (after asking nicely.. then he replied being stupid...saying that the cellphone wouldnt work without the pda plan)
then I spoke to one of the superiors to be told the same.
I headed to best buy in 43rd street and 5th avenue, at the best buy mobile section they have it without requiring a pda plan or any internet plan at $250 cash/credit whatever
without ever sending rebates forms or anything like that.
I could have gotten through new egg or cheaper but i dont have the patience to wait for it to arrive.
I wanted it at that moment so thats why i got it at best buy mobile thing.

wut if i purchase a tilt off new egg with the 59.99 plan then i down the plan once i get the device... wouldi have to pay regular price cause i didnt stick wit the plan?
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forget it that answers itself on the newegg site

cripwalk said:
Yes, I did read the whole thread and you dont need to be rude about it. I do realize that you spoke to their AT&T rep but it seems to contradict their own terms and conditions that you need to agree to when you purchase the phone on their website. To me it seems that they could potentially charge you $250 when you do it as an upgrade. Did you ask the rep about this when you spoke to them?
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Yes, I did ask the AT&T rep and I expressed this in my first post:
marm0lade said:
This is not true, you do not need a whole new individual account or need to sign up with a new number. If your contract is expired (as mine was) you can purchase this as an upgrade. At the end of the purchase process there is a field for number portability. You leave the box for "carrier" default, put your current number in the "number portability field", and enter your account number with the word "upgrade" at the end. This information was told to me by newegg's AT&T rep. I just purchased my phone from newegg tonight and successfully upgraded my account to a new 2 year plan all while keeping my current number and getting the $150 price.
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I should be more clear. I specifically asked the AT&T rep if this could be used as an upgrade and if I would still get the discount. They said yes, and gave me the directions for using this as an upgrades as I explained above. I'm not sure why people are doubting this as I myself purchased it as an upgrade. The receipt is sitting right next to me. I did not mean to come off as rude.

marm0lade said:
Yes, I did ask the AT&T rep and I expressed this in my first post:
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I should be more clear. I specifically asked the AT&T rep if this could be used as an upgrade and if I would still get the discount. They said yes, and gave me the directions for using this as an upgrades as I explained above. I'm not sure why people are doubting this as I myself purchased it as an upgrade. The receipt is sitting right next to me. I did not mean to come off as rude.
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do you know if this deal can be done as an upgrade in a family plan? im out of contract on my line with my family plan and want to upgrade to this phone??

sirccchar said:
do you know if this deal can be done as an upgrade in a family plan? im out of contract on my line with my family plan and want to upgrade to this phone??
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same here...im out of contract and im in a family plan...would i be able to upgrade jsut my line and get it from newegg for 149?
edit: no they dont allow family plan upgrades right now..i just asked

I originally ordered a Tilt from Wirefly on the 13th for $99.00 ($100.00 data plan rebate). Even though their website and sale staff said it was in stock up until Thursday, the phone is back ordered. Since none of the sales or support staff can tell me when or if they will be getting new Tilts, I canceled my purchase.
I spoke with Newegg this morning and was told they had 74 of the Tilts in stock (as of 7:15am PST). I promptly placed my order and was assured that one of the phones in stock will have my name on it!
I think $50.00 more is a bargain to no longer have to deal with Wirefly!
As for my terms, I am Verizon transfer. I was told (by Newegg) that all I had to do was sign up for a new service with a voice plan. There was no minimum voice plan purchase.
I did ask the Newegg rep about people who wanted to upgrade their account and their rebate requirements. I was told that if someone has a current contract (for example: 450 min) and wanted to "upgrade" to a higher rate (for example: 900 min) while they are still under contract, the rebate would not apply and their credit card would be charged $250.00 after the phone was activated. The rep told me that if someones contract ended and they were to "re-new" their contract than the rebate would be valid.
I think people here are getting the terms "new" and "upgrade" confused with each other.
Anyways, I am looking forward to receiving the phone!

jimlivingston said:
I originally ordered a Tilt from Wirefly on the 13th for $99.00 ($100.00 data plan rebate). Even though their website and sale staff said it was in stock up until Thursday, the phone is back ordered. Since none of the sales or support staff can tell me when or if they will be getting new Tilts, I canceled my purchase.
I spoke with Newegg this morning and was told they had 74 of the Tilts in stock (as of 7:15am PST). I promptly placed my order and was assured that one of the phones in stock will have my name on it!
I think $50.00 more is a bargain to no longer have to deal with Wirefly!
As for my terms, I am Verizon transfer. I was told (by Newegg) that all I had to do was sign up for a new service with a voice plan. There was no minimum voice plan purchase.
I did ask the Newegg rep about people who wanted to upgrade their account and their rebate requirements. I was told that if someone has a current contract (for example: 450 min) and wanted to "upgrade" to a higher rate (for example: 900 min) while they are still under contract, the rebate would not apply and their credit card would be charged $250.00 after the phone was activated. The rep told me that if someones contract ended and they were to "re-new" their contract than the rebate would be valid.
I think people here are getting the terms "new" and "upgrade" confused with each other.
Anyways, I am looking forward to receiving the phone!
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74 phones huh? I placed my order Friday so hopefully one of those has my name on it. It better be on the way!!!!

About to purchase: any deals to be had on the Tilt?

All,
Looks like I missed out on the 50% off deal (posted here). I'm interested in a Tilt, but the $100 Premier website rebate won't apply since I'm not getting a data plan.
Is there a better deal than the AT&T premier site @ $399 that doesn't require a data plan?
Thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Mods/admins: if this is off topic I apologize. Feel free to remove/lock. I guessed that this was the right forum to post this in.

I got mine from Newegg. Two-year re-up (I was out of contract) but no data plan required. $150 after mail-in.

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I got mine from Newegg. Two-year re-up (I was out of contract) but no data plan required. $150 after mail-in.
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Thanks for the heads-up... but I forgot to mention: I'm in need of a family plan 9two phones for my wife and I) and Newegg doesn't currently offer anything other than single line plans.
Tried Amazon but they don't even seem to give the option to buy the Tilt w/o a data plan.
Thanks,
-Brett.

I got mine for $149.95 after all the rebates, going through Costco.com. But the phone came from AT&T. I have the family plan, and the AT&T site within Costco page will check your entitlement to receive the phone. you must sign for the 2Yr program. No data plan suggested, however I have it.

When I go through the costco site, it brings me to the att costco site. there is a mail in rebate there for 100 on the tilt, but theres a plus next to it that says it requires a PDA personal plan, an unlimited data plan, or a 19.99 or higher messaging plan. Are there any mail in rebates around that DON'T require a data plan of some type?

I just got mine for $249 without data plan from Letstalk.com. Family plan and no data service required. Let me know and I can refer you and you get $25 off.

Pretty good price - straight up
I've ordered mine from CDW. They are in Chicago, IL. The college where I work get most of our computer stuff from there and they're great folks to deal with.
If you go to their website http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1325326 you'll find it under the 8925. It says CALL for the price, but if you will call them you'll get it for no more than $469.00 I'm actually getting mine for $427 but that's cause of government discount. You might could get it for that or something close. These are brand new unlocked AT&T Tilts. I've done a good bit of research and this is absolutely the cheapest I've found with no strings attached from someone you can trust. Good luck.

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I got mine for $149.95 after all the rebates, going through Costco.com. But the phone came from AT&T. I have the family plan, and the AT&T site within Costco page will check your entitlement to receive the phone. you must sign for the 2Yr program. No data plan suggested, however I have it.
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Thanks for the Costco tip, I'm a member but it never occurred to me to check there. They have the phone by itself for the same price as the AT&T premier store ($399) and they also listed a "package" consisting of Bluetooth headset - Motorola H700, Car Charger - AT&T/Cingular, Black Leather Case - AT&T/Palm Treo which was priced as follows:
Package Price $559.96
Online Discount - $129.97
Mail-in Rebate Card - $30.00
Mail-in Rebate Card - $100.00
Package Savings $259.97
Online Price* $299.99
Free Bluetooth, charger and case
*2 yr contract-New service price
However, the $100 rebate was contingent on a data plan, and I couldn't find a way to add this package to a family plan, only to an individual plan. Plus the monthly rates were no cheaper through Costco. I can get an approx 17% discount through the AT&T Premier site so it looks like that's the way to go for me.
If anyone knows of a way to get the above "package" through Costco on a family plan w/o a data add-on.... please clue me in!
Thanks,
-Brett.

Since you are doing the family plan, you can add on Family Unlimited messaging for $24 per month. This will cover what is required to meet the rebate. Nothing in the rebate indicates you have to keep this for any length of time, so after you get the rebate then drop the messaging part of the plan. So that gets you the phone for $399 less $100 for the rebate, and will cost you about $50 more (if the rebate truely comes in 8 weeks).
Since I have teenagers, I'm on the unlimited messaging family plan anyway (and then have the $20 unlimited MediaNet (whatever they call it now)).

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Since you are doing the family plan, you can add on Family Unlimited messaging for $24 per month. This will cover what is required to meet the rebate. Nothing in the rebate indicates you have to keep this for any length of time, so after you get the rebate then drop the messaging part of the plan. So that gets you the phone for $399 less $100 for the rebate, and will cost you about $50 more (if the rebate truely comes in 8 weeks).
Since I have teenagers, I'm on the unlimited messaging family plan anyway (and then have the $20 unlimited MediaNet (whatever they call it now)).
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Hey, that's a good idea. I think a variation of it might work, since the Family Messaging Unlimited is showing as $30/mo for me.
The requirement is "+Requires activation on a PDA Personal Plan or a $39.99 or higher unlimited data rate plan or a $19.99 or higher messaging plan plus an AT&T Voice Plan of $39.99 or higher."
We were already planning on adding the $5 "Messaging starter" add-on to both lines ($10/mo) since we don't do much messaging. If I add the "Messaging unlimited" option to the Tilt for $19.99/mo it would satisfy the rebate req's, and only cost me $15/mo over what I was already planning. Keep that for 2-3 months to obtain the rebate then drop back to the $5 plan... and I'm out $30 for a net of $70 savings on the rebate.
Good thinking, thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Currently using your Rev 3 ROM on my 8125 and loving it. Still can't get IBM Easysync installed, but I'm keeping my eyes out for a version that's compatible with WM6.

zzoinks said:
Hey, that's a good idea. I think a variation of it might work, since the Family Messaging Unlimited is showing as $30/mo for me.
The requirement is "+Requires activation on a PDA Personal Plan or a $39.99 or higher unlimited data rate plan or a $19.99 or higher messaging plan plus an AT&T Voice Plan of $39.99 or higher."
We were already planning on adding the $5 "Messaging starter" add-on to both lines ($10/mo) since we don't do much messaging. If I add the "Messaging unlimited" option to the Tilt for $19.99/mo it would satisfy the rebate req's, and only cost me $15/mo over what I was already planning. Keep that for 2-3 months to obtain the rebate then drop back to the $5 plan... and I'm out $30 for a net of $70 savings on the rebate.
Good thinking, thanks!
-Brett.
PS - Currently using your Rev 3 ROM on my 8125 and loving it. Still can't get IBM Easysync installed, but I'm keeping my eyes out for a version that's compatible with WM6.
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Can you still get the monthly rate discount even if you do not sign-up through ATT? Looking at the website for my school (Ga Tech), there is an option for existing customers to sign-up for discounts using the online validation process.

promine21 said:
Can you still get the monthly rate discount even if you do not sign-up through ATT? Looking at the website for my school (Ga Tech), there is an option for existing customers to sign-up for discounts using the online validation process.
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Sorry, no idea. I'm using the AT&T "Premier" site through my employer.
-Brett.

So does anyone know if one could talk NewEgg or Costco into a sale? I currently have til 5/6/08 for an upgrade (still in 2yr contract). I got the "OK" from both the AT&T store for the phone (they wanted $299+Accessory pack of $100, w/ renewed 2yr) and AT&T's phone support (they wanted just $299+2yr renewal agreement).
Are these retail outlets less inclined? Or can they still do the same checks (I qualified early because of a broken-out-of-production/warranty phone and good credit)?
Anyone had success with something like that?

Where can I buy the Tilt 8900 (no cameras) without any plan?
I live abroad, so any plan would be useless.
Thank you.

An update in case anyone cares. I ended up going directly through the AT&T store where they matched the pricing from their "Premier" web site. Ended up getting it for $399 out the door with a $100 rebate. (Thanks to mfrazzz's tip about the messaging plan)
I am now a very happy member of the "Tilt" community. I'm considering flashing it to a different ROM but for now I'm just enjoying it.
Thanks,
-Brett.

zzoinks said:
An update in case anyone cares. I ended up going directly through the AT&T store where they matched the pricing from their "Premier" web site. Ended up getting it for $399 out the door with a $100 rebate. (Thanks to mfrazzz's tip about the messaging plan)
I am now a very happy member of the "Tilt" community. I'm considering flashing it to a different ROM but for now I'm just enjoying it.
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Cool! Yeah, I'm loving my Tilt too. I've flashed the newer 1.60 AT&T stock rom, but haven't went to a custom yet (but probably will before the week is out).
Have to say, for me, so far the stock rom is pretty reliable (much better than the old stock roms for the Wizard... LOL).

Mfrazzz, when i had my wizard your roms were awsome...
U should start making so roms
glad to see u here

dan5.5 said:
Mfrazzz, when i had my wizard your roms were awsome...
U should start making so roms
glad to see u here
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Thanks... I've already downloaded the kitchen and a few custom roms to pull apart and look at. Give me some time to look at how things work in this new world for me. Haven't even had my Tilt a week yet, but I'm already thinking about a custom rom for me (and will probably release if its very different from whats already available.

Hi, just a thought (and this comes from a few years of phone buying!)
Just check if the phone you get on a cheap rate is not one of the carriers 'old basic' units.
You can see from this forum that updates are available, and from quite a few that they are discontented with carrier versions in the US.
What makes you think that a cheap option will give you the best phone?
Just hoping to help.

New Contract

im elegible for a new contract with att and i wanna get the tilt but idont wanna get those pda plans, do i have to get that or is there a way around it? i just want unlimited internet and 1500 texts that i have and i dont want anything extra. thanks

Upgrade through newegg.com, thats what I've done. Worked like a charm.

I've upgraded on their christmas sale, got brand new Kaiser for $150 (rebate for $100 just came) with 2 year contract. They tried to make me pay $40/mo for unlimited internet, but after some haggling they gave it to me for $20/mo.
I've installed Gutty's ROM, enabled HSDPA and voila - unlimited HSDPA for $20/mo.

Currently NewEgg is only requiring a Voice plan with their upgrade price. Not data. That is the very reason I went with them as opposed to LetsTalks.com or wirefly.com. Not one time did they even suggest the PDA connect plan. My upgrade was done one month ago through their website.

i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.

i just upgraded my 8125 to the 8925 through buy.com for $149. kept the same minutes and got the unlimited date plan for $24.99/month. Not too bad, but I had the data plan with my 8125 for only $19.99. So they had to charge me $5 extra a month. Probably BS but its not that big of a deal.

rico002 said:
i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.
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A PDA plan IS the data plan...I think what you are asking is if it can be done without getting a voice plan while keeping a data/pda/media net plan. Is this correct? Honestly, if so I would just hop on the phone and call at&t or even wirefly/letstalk.com, I've never seen that offered online, but I haven't looked either.

no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.

smartyP said:
no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.
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Ummm, just change your data plan to $20 media max on the Account Management website. If it won't show you the Media Max as an option, change your device type to something like a Samsung SYNC. You can always change it back to a Tilt if you need to RMA.

here it is: my cuz i had 8525 bought an 8925 and didnt notify att and kept his data plan it was 1500 text wit unlimited everything, but they didnt know he had the tilt ( iguess) and i want to upgrade to the tilt and keep the same voice and the data plan that i have (same as above for 29.99) and not get that extra pda plan that they told me i have to get...but online i heard it says device upgrade only but i cannot find that option and pay a cheaper price like the blackjack 2 i could get for 100 after rebate and keep the same data plan w/o changing anything.

PLEASE HELP ME. AT&T is so horable

Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)

brianmay27 said:
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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When you got your tilt, did you sign up for a new contract? If not then you should still have your old plan. They are grandfathered in. They CANNOT take it away unless YOU switch your plan. Just be aware that you cannot access 3G with the SIM card from your 8125, you will need a 3G SIM for that.

well i think i did sign up for the 2 year aggrement... but i did get a new sim card. but can they really change your plan with out telling you and make it 10$ more expensive?

Are you sure about that statement? There are no contracts for data plans like there are for voice plans to my knowledge anymore except for a few specialized data plans (most of those like some international data plans are 1yr commitments). Thats why you can add and cancel your data plan at any time without having to pay an Early Termination Fee.
I've gone thru some of my contracts for the past few years and I don't see anything stating any data plans have a commitment form either party. Only Voice.

well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason

Yeah this happened to me as well. When I got my tilt they chopped my old plan to hell and back and to get it working right I ended up having to pay more money than on my old plan. Sucked and for some reason it's a hit or miss whether or not I get pictures messages now.

Ok, well i guess i will try my best to have them give me the 60$ plan for 40$... just have to make them feel horable for it

they do it cuz they make commision off u
its in the contract u signed. they lie, cheat.
thats how corporate is though.
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,

stealthj said:
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28

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Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
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One time when i was in the At&t store talking to a rep making adjustments to my plan, he noticed the HIGH data usage and saw that i had a medianet plan and not pda connect on my 8525 (this was about 6 months ago).
He tried to force me to switch to the $49.99 pda connect plan but i just persisted that i bought the 8525 from them with that plan so he let it slide (although it was an imate jasjam and not att's branded 8525 )
BUT he warned me that if i get "Caught", and he said i will, they will charge me per KB which will have the bill break through the roof! But i know if this happens i can just go to the store with my bill and add the pda plan and have them cancel the charges. (i've done this before when i went over my minutes, messages, and kb when i was on a 5mb plan, not unlimitted)
I haven't been caught yet and last week i switched to the unlimited pda data plan for $30 so i'm playing it safe now (but still tethering )
ALso i can not connect to isp.cingular, i thought that was the point of the pda plan. Do i have to call and ask them to allow me to access isp.cingular?

From my experience, wap.cingular is faster than isp.cingular.
I have the $45/mo PDA Unlimited Plan (includes 500 any-type messages), and I tether using wap.cingular. I get 50-100kb/sec download speeds on my laptop when tethered.

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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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I just keep changing my phone on AT&T Billing and everything works okay thus far

brianmay27 said:
well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
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oh I do believe that is with their data plan. Your paying $10 more a month for $100 off in 6 months or something.

PDA Connect Unlimited still available, AFAIK
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. . . i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!

brianmay27 said:
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Typically if you read the two year agreements or rebate agreements they will say that it's only valid with a specific data and voice plan of at least $X value. That's not uncommon.
As for getting back a grandfathered plan. I know at Sprint, depending on how old the plan was, once it was deprovisioned the system just was no longer capable of reprovisioning it. No matter how much you wanted it to.
My guess is though that you did in fact agree to have your plan changed. They just didn't make it any more clear than they legally have to.

cushcalc said:
Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
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My mistake... I am on the $39.99 PDA Unlimited plan. I was on a strange combination of Data and Messaging plans until I went into an AT&T store to buy a pair bluetooth headphones, and the rep looked at my account and pointed out that I could save money by combining my 2 options into this 1 plan.

this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems

rico002 said:
this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
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That is a cute trick, but you are not the first to think of it. AT&T can tell that your are on the tilt. The browser requests contain information about what OS you are using. You probably are not using ridiculous amounts of data, so they have no reason to look. If they ever do look tho, they will see you are on WM, and they will switch you to the correct plan without warning.

I work for AT&T Tech Support. For the sake of keeping my job i'll call my self BoB.
Anyway you can still tether with wap.cingular as mentioned before. The only way we'd catch you is if you were downloading torrent or excessive amounts of data. We recently changed our data features which I think is retarded.
One thing they don't tell you is that the new Tethering plans which cost money out the ass have a 5GB soft limit.
What this means is that after 5GB of data you have used, AT&T will monitor any usage past the 5gb. The reason for this is so that they could price their data plans accordingly, hopefully for the better but in this world probably will be for the worse.
If you are casually browsing just use internet sharing in your phone to tether. Go to File Explorer-Windows-Scroll down about halfway to Internet Sharing then hit connect.
YOu could also go to wmwifirouter.com and download the app straight from the phone, it turns your phone into a router and you can just tether like that. I think it's ridiculous to charge so much for data. Sprint (even though I would never switch) Has their unlimited everything for 99 dollars, data, gps, voice, tv, etc. That just goes to show you how much unlimited data is actually worth.
Get a 19.99 Medianet Unlimited Plan, 19.99 Unl Messaging and you are set
Just get a RaZR and switch your sim card out, place a couple of test calls, and boom call in to have it changed or go online to make the change. After you have both features on put SIM back into TILT and you're done. I feel so bad when I tell a customer that in order to tether they need a 60 dollar feature. I'd feel insulted if that were me.

Thanks everyone for this help... after reading i guess my new question is what is so different between isp and wap... i thought it was like wap goes through a proxy and is not "THE internet" where as isp is "THE internet". is that right? also i would run a speed test too but well i cant.

Droid Bionic Corporate discount - like getting Bionic for $150.00

I got my Bionic for $250.00 and we have a nationwide corporate pool that includes....wait for it...unlimited data. They are also running a promo for new customers where you can send in your old pos phone and get at least a $100.00 Verizon gift card. Accessories here I come.
The main point is if you have a decent corporate discount, you can get it for $250.00 then send in an old phone and get $100.00 gift card which you can use to pay your bill. It is like getting it for $150.00

I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...

Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....

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I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?

shadowclock said:
Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?
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I ordered my Bionic this morning and was able to keep my unlimited plan coming from a 3g smartphone (Incredible).

I was able to keep unlimited data coming from the inc as well

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Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....
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Yup, we have a super secret deal I guess. We have 117,000 employees.

dan46n2 said:
I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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It says for new customers. The way I read it, I should be able to send in whatever old phone I have and I will get at least 100.00. It doesn't have to be a Verizon phone.

I got my phone this AM for 149+ tax. It was 249 the a additional 100 off for going from a 3G to 4g smartphone.

The $100 special offer is for going from a feature phone to a 4G phone, and for that you have to mail in the feature phone and jump through some more hoops, not an instant discount. So power to you brother, but whatever you got wasn't the "Get Paid to Trade" deal.
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