O2 vs T-Mobile for HSDPA - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello,
I've been working it out and due to O2's new data plan and my sparse talking habits, if I use it for 2 years I pay the same for an unlocked HTC Kaiser and an O2 plan than for a T-Mobile Vario III.
I want to use HSDPA but am not sure if that's available here (at Oxford, UK) on O2, I believe it is on T-Mobile? Is it included in the 7.50 a month for 120MB plan? Also, if there's a Vodafone user around here I'd like to hear the impressions. Bear in mind that I can't do online deals, only store ones, since I recently moved into the UK to study and they limit us to those contracts.
EDIT: And can anyone tell me whether a case and screen protector are included in the Expansys box? In the site they only mention USB cable, headset, battery, adapter, CD, instructions and warranty.
Thanks!

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Name P4550 = TyTN II

Is this source right? If so, we have the new name for our beloved Kaiser
http://smartmobilegadgets.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/htc-tytn-ii-the-ultimate-mobile-companion/
MDA Vario III
I spoke to a UK T-Mobile business customer services representative on Saturday morning about getting the Kaiser on my contract renewal - whilst checking a T-mobile system she said that the "MDA Vario III was not yet available" but that T-mobile would text me when it was. No indication of when that would be though
Rumours persist that it'll be the 8th September for T-Mobile UK.
They probably don't want to announce it too early because it might put people off upgrading until it comes out.
It's supposedly coming out as the T-Mobile Vario III, Vodafone v1615 and HTC TyTN II "among other names".
No hint as to when Vodafone will release it, and from their website, you can only get to the pocket PC phones through the business section...
I'm actually thinking I might switch from O2 to T-Mobile when my contract runs out, as T-Mobile have a much better data plan... (that said, having an "unlimited" data usage policy with a 1GB cap seems a bit dishonest to me, but then again, it's still better than anyone else I know of)
Spoke to a customer service rep at T-mob today, to tell them i want to wait a month to upgrade, so i can have the Kaiser.
Was told its being tested right now, and will be a mid September release, at a price of £280 upgrade. Obviously that price is very negotiable depending how much you spend a month. MDA Vario III will be its final name, on T-Mobile UK at least. My names on the list for one the day its released
The wife just had an MDA Touch delivered from T-Mobile UK (and very sleek it is too) but was told on the phone at the weekend that if she waited for a month the Vario III would be available.
That pretty much ties in perfectly with the 8th September. There must be an internal memo whizzing it's way around T-Mobile HQ, 'cause that date keeps cropping up.
She's more about having slim and girly phones than fully featured powerhouses though...

Will T-Mobile have the Kaiser?

I've heard AT&T will on Sept 3rd or 26th.. but what about T-Mobile?
T-mobile in Germany have released a pdf showing the MDA varioIII. Beta testers have been using a Kaiser locked to T-mobile. So I think it is safe to assume it will be released on T-mobile, the question is when and with what level handset subsidy?
I was told by my local T-Mobile store that it is expected late Sept.
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
so what is the deal? is the USA one going to work with 3G? or are they using different freq/bands etc...
would i have to get it from tmobile? or could i get it say from ebay?
or maybe those from Germany on ebay
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Seems kinda expensive. I hope that price is for a 12 month contract renewal on T-Mobiles cheapest tariff.
chaps said:
Seems kinda expensive. I hope that price is for a 12 month contract renewal on T-Mobiles cheapest tariff.
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Good question - what tariff that price applies to, as it seems quite expensive? I've paid £80 last year for new MDA Vario II with Flext25+WnW price plan, so I expect to get Vario III as an upgrade later on January 2008 for not more than £100 with the same plan...
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Just spoke to T-Mobile UK about an upgrade, at first the girl a spoke to "had no information about the Vario III" once she realised that I knew a lot about it she then "found an email" with some information about it.
she was reluctant to give me information but i managed to get out of her that is was due out "early September", she said this could mean anything, and that the price in the email did say £280.
i Said that that was quite a lot and she said that from past experience the true price will be lower and once you take you tariff into consideration it should bring that down..... here's hoping!!!! :-D
TyTN II / T-Mobile
Today they officially announced the TyTN II for early October.
Ironic, really. The first network to confirm they're getting it (however unofficially, it's been "known" for a while now) are the last to release it.
Update I just received a few minutes ago from T-Mobile Germany:
HTC Kaiser aka MDA Vario III will be available END of October.
Yipee cant wait!
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Cant wait, cant wait!, Me upgrade is due around October, so fingers crossed they have it (minus delays), i might actually go for the Tytn II rather than the ameo. Ive had the mda vario, now on hermes and find the form factor excellent.
Please dont let me down, T-mobile uk!
I know, just read the press release, October!!! my Wizard has been playing up for months now and has finally died.
I've been waiting for the Kaiser for what seems like years, you cant beat T's web n' walk, but I'm seriously considering just buying the sim free HTC version and taking the £15 discount on my tariff for not taking a phone upgrade. also i don't like what T-Mobile have done with the styling.
any clues on what Vodkafone or Orange have done with there versions or are they being released as HTC branded?
nlhall said:
I've been waiting for the Kaiser for what seems like years, you cant beat T's web n' walk, but I'm seriously considering just buying the sim free HTC version and taking the £15 discount on my tariff for not taking a phone upgrade. also i don't like what T-Mobile have done with the styling.
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Is that £15 discount off the bill actually a real deal? Does it concern *every* customer who is not willing to take new phone, or just selected ones? Can someone confirm it?
If it's real and for everyone, I will seriously consider buying HTC-branded version and then take that discount on my renewal due January.
And me too. My T-mob 12-month contract (on Hermes) has finished last month.
£15 discount means a lot for a whole year.
When i check my online account it's just there under the upgrade and renewals section...
Just noticed though, it is £15 off for 12 months, but an 18 month contract, but still that £180 over the year, and if T-Mob are going to charge £280 for the Vario III if you buy the HTC version for around £500 there isn't that much difference e.g. £280+£180=£460 for the extra £40 i think i would prefer the unbranded HTC one.
Unbranded HTC vs T-Mobile
I would seriously you suggest you rethink that, T-mobile replaced my mda Vario II Twice, no questions asked, try getting that sort of service from HTC..thet repair it and that takes months...
Conclusion:Always buy from your carrier if you can, they have an ineterest in keeping you happy.
regards
michael
mikeycollins13 said:
I would seriously you suggest you rethink that, T-mobile replaced my mda Vario II Twice, no questions asked, try getting that sort of service from HTC..thet repair it and that takes months...
Conclusion:Always buy from your carrier if you can, they have an ineterest in keeping you happy.
regards
michael
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very good point, thanks for the advice.
I'm in down in London today on business and have just found a shop that has a demo Kaiser in store. just had a bit of a play with it.
Got really mixed emotions about it now, I've been waiting for it for months and once I had it in my hands it was like "hmm, its ok" didn't really get that wow factor I was expecting.
the funny thing is, a few weeks ago when i first held the Touch i did get that wow. so now I'm questioning my self, do i NEED the qwerty, or should i wait for the Touch II
nlhall said:
I'm in down in London today on business and have just found a shop that has a demo Kaiser in store. just had a bit of a play with it.
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Where is that shop, maybe I'll go there as well after work..?
Sunrise Digital Centre (Inkino) 48 Tottenham Court Road, http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=contact_us&zenid=d729b37f9761412380b7aaad2240058d

US user buying Australian Diamond?

I'm a US T-mobile user. I will be traveling to Australia on business this week.
If I buy an unlocked Diamond in Australia, will it work in the US?
Also, will the GPS work here without any support from T-mobile?
Thanks,
Craig.
Why not just buy a US diamond from bestbuy or various online retailers? GPS will function independent of carrier support. enjoy your trip!
Well Duhhh! I didn't even know BB was selling unlocked diamonds. I didn't want a Sprint contract and didn't want a chopped down one from Verizon.
Thanks!

[Q] HTC HD7 Not Coming To T-Mobile UK??? Exclusive to O2?

Hi Everyone,
I am confused!
I know that the HD7 has been seen on leaked internal document (http://www.gaj-it.com/24758/htc-hd7-makes-an-appearance-on-t-mobile-document-along-with-dell-streak/) for T-Mobile UK but if you look http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/HTC/HD7 it says the phone is Exclusive to O2!
Any suggestions?
You might be able to get it on T-Mobile from a third party site but it is meant to be exclusive to O2.
I spoke to a T-Mobile retentions guy the other day and he said that he had seen the HD7 and that it will be coming to T-Mobile after the O2 exclusive. Further down the conversation he checked something and mentioned the Samsung WP7 phone as one that he had seen, so it made me question whether he was getting confused between Samsung and HD7 for the phone he had seen.
As a T-Mobile customer I have ordered the O2 PAYG version and will unlock it, putting my sim-only contract in it.
A lady from T-Mobile shop has told me it will come to them but doesn't know when. Myself, don't think will wait long and might just get one from O2 and unlock it

Import Samsung Focus S to Europe

Does someone know a online shop which will ship the Samsung Focus S to Europe??
Expansys would, they have a store for most countries. Though they are more expensive.
You can try eBay or MobileCityOnline, if they ever get stock.
I ordered mine on eBay.
would the samsung focus s work in the UK? Does automatically become unlocked?
rafter_01 said:
would the samsung focus s work in the UK? Does automatically become unlocked?
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It would not automatically become unlocked. You would need to purchase an unlock code. I trust: samsungimeiunlock.com or cellunlocker.net
Both cost around $30 USD currently.
The Focus S would work on 2G/EDGE networks after unlock as well as 3G 850/1900/2100 bands. 850/1900 are not very popular outside of N. America.
2100 is quite prevalent in many European countries. You can find a list here: http://worldtimezone.net/gsm.html
If it says 2100MHz under 3G on the same line, you might be in luck.
does anyone know if this phone would work in austria at t-mobile? how about import taxes? would i have to pay some?
thx, sam
johnsies said:
Expansys would, they have a store for most countries. Though they are more expensive.
You can try eBay or MobileCityOnline, if they ever get stock.
I ordered mine on eBay.
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Expansys don't have the Focus S in the Austrian store...
Ebay is also a little bit expensive...
sam_semillia said:
does anyone know if this phone would work in austria at t-mobile? how about import taxes? would i have to pay some?
thx, sam
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It will work on Austrians 3G networks without problems...
Import taxes are usually around 20% in Austria from Item+Shipping that would be around 130$ (~100€)for a focus if you pay 650$
If your lucky the customs won't check your package, than you get away without customs duty
Cheapest Unlock I've found
Bought mine on eBay for $430+$10 shipping.
On cellunlock(dot)net with "android50" coupon code it costs 19.99 CAD (Canadian $), where as the normal price is CAD 39.99.
uncloking imported cell
Hi guys! I am coming from a Galaxy S and going to switch to WP. Since I live in Chile I have to import the Focus S, so I have an important but noob question on unlocking.
When I bought my SGS it was already unlocked so I just had to insert my local sim, start rooting and flashing. But now I'm going to buy a AT&T Focus S, so I don't really know if I need an AT&T sim card in order to sim-unlock it from pages like prounlocking or similar and/or using any sort of app or flash-like procedure.
thanks in advance! it would be really hepful for me!
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-focus-s-windows-phone-unlocked-223036/
thanks! But I was planning to buy it locked and unlocking it myself so could save a few bucks (actually, like 150 USD)
Demian_ii said:
thanks! But I was planning to buy it locked and unlocking it myself so could save a few bucks (actually, like 150 USD)
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You don't need at&t sim card, just insert your own, it will ask for unlock code, you dial it, it unlocks and that's it
I bought a Focus S AT&T locked of E-Bay, and had it shipped here to the Netherlands.
It was locked, and purchased an unlock code from:
http://www.samsungimeiunlock.com/samsung-focus-s-unlock
Working fine, unlock was delivered within 15 minutes.
I made the same that Demian_ii but I order to send to Spain
Imported it into the UK as an unlocked phone and just updated the software to 8107(?). It runs absolutely fine on T-Mobile in the UK. Good data speeds when out and about. I would like to enable wireless tethering/hotspotting if possible. Still looking into it.
I'm pretty happy with it, but not sure I'm that happy with the Gmail integration or Facebook integration (I guess this is now more about WP7 than the Focus S).
I might consider selling it on, I'm still giving it a chance, but I'm missing a lot of the functionality that Android finally got which WP7 is sadly lacking
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johnsies said:
It would not automatically become unlocked. You would need to purchase an unlock code. I trust: samsungimeiunlock.com or cellunlocker.net
Both cost around $30 USD currently.
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Try this software for free: http://simlockcalculators.com/
https://negrielectronics.com/
They ship worldwide and it is currently on sale
Here already imported and unlocked (and good price)

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