Tilt Infrared port addon - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello wonderful wonderful people of XDA-Developers world. First of.. I'm eternally thankful to all the contributors to this wonderful community.
Now for my request.. I'm in real estate and have a need for an Infrared Port on my device which allows me to take prospective buyer's into listed homes. We have this thing called GE Supra that enables that. With the Tilt's many joys, this is one sore feature thats lacking in the Tilt.
So, I went searching on google, wiki, this forum, ppcgeeks, pdaphonehome (why?), and many more only to find that there are apparently tons of USB IR dongles available in the market with a standard USB on one end and the IR blaster/receiver on the other. But, they are meant for a laptop/pc/mac etc.
**Is there ANYTHING I can give a shot at that you think exists maybe in the form of a Bluetooth device that brings IR addon to pdas??! Or a mini-usb for plugging into the Tilt or something.. ANYTHING..!
What about those IR blasters/extenders that one can get at Radioshack or something.. can they be "rigged" in someway to add an IrDA Port to my Tilt???
Please help.
AJ

USB on Kaiser
The USB required for those IR devices are for an USB host. The USB on the Kaiser is not a host USB otherwise we would also be able to add things like thumbdrives, etc. IR has quickly gone the way of the Dodo bird in favor of other wireless technologies like Bluetooth. There are some cheap Windows Mobile Classic devices out there with IrDA still - perhaps when you need to, you can just carry a second device.

Thanks Jonnob
Thanks JonnoB,
I was hoping that I'll get a different answer but I guess there are no other options that getting another device to run that function. Oh well.. back to the ugly Supra DisplayKey that needs to be manually updated each day with using the ancient regular phone line...

Maybe there are bluetooth versions of the GE Suprakey...

I have been asked the same question about the Supra EKey software and the Tilt. Basically I tell the real estate agents to keep their "little blackbox key" if they want the Tilt.

Another angle may be to look for SDIO devices.
For example, there was one released for the Treo a while back: http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7096/new-sd-card-universal-remote-control-device/

Thats just what I was looking for but in MicroSDIO.. if such thing exists.
Thanks Evil..
Thats what I was searching online for. Maybe I'll try and find out if there is an SD to MicroSD adapter available so that I can plug the infrared SDIO blaster into a microSD adapter (if such a thing exists) and I should be good to go.
Is the MicroSD slot even enabled for I/O functionality?? Dunno..
Man.. more questions than answers.. Maybe I'll have to give in and stick with the black ugly DisplayKey for GE that I have to manually update via frickin' landline.
nuf *****in... I'm gonna move on.
Thanks all for trying to help.
AJ

ajfloridian said:
Maybe I'll try and find out if there is an SD to MicroSD adapter available so that I can plug the infrared SDIO blaster into a microSD adapter (if such a thing exists) and I should be good to go.
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That's a good point. AFAIK the Kaiser is SDIO, but I have never heard of a male microSD to female SD adapter. At least the Kaiser microSD slot has an external opening so it is physically possible.

ajfloridian said:
**Is there ANYTHING I can give a shot at that you think exists maybe in the form of a Bluetooth device that brings IR addon to pdas??!
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Seems painful, but there are BlueTooth->Serial adapters (which host a generic serial port profile on BT and have a physical RS-232 interface on the other side) - and I recall seeing Serial->IrDA adapters at one point. Plug two expensive low-volume gadgets together and hope they work? All the while, pointing the IR port at your Real Estate gizmo....
Richard

rsolomon said:
Plug two expensive low-volume gadgets together
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Looks like these guys did exactly that - but they're targeting OEMs, so not sure how much luck you'll have buying only one....
http://www.tdt.de/en/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=18
Richard

How about something like this? It was a device that plugged nto a headphone jack. I doesn't appear to be made any more, but I liked the idea.
http://www.pocketpcblast.com/articles/2002/12/20021217-TotalRemote-Control-With-Your.html

tdusen said:
How about something like this? It was a device that plugged nto a headphone jack. I doesn't appear to be made any more, but I liked the idea.
http://www.pocketpcblast.com/articles/2002/12/20021217-TotalRemote-Control-With-Your.html
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Yeah, I was talking about that one; actually, I keep one of those that I bought some years ago (for an old Toshiba e700 series that I owned).
Something like this, could work as well, supposing that someone write the code to make it work (which, I think, is totally feasible). How much would it cost, that's another story.
USB to IrDA adapter
In this case, you would need as well either a mini usb to usb cable or an adapter.

Tavocr said:
In this case, you would need as well either a mini usb to usb cable or an adapter.
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...and a whole new USB controller in the phone, since the one in there is a USB target not a USB master. Oh and a power source as well, since the USB target controller in the phone expects power provided TO it - just like the USB IrDA dongle's target controller expects power provided TO it.
All of which is not to trivialize the software component.
If the OP's software works on PocketPC but expects a serial port connection to the scanner (IrDA looks like a serial port to software) then his best bet is to find hardware which looks like a serial port to PocketPC software.
Just my $0.02 of course.
Richard

rsolomon said:
...and a whole new USB controller in the phone, since the one in there is a USB target not a USB master. Oh and a power source as well, since the USB target controller in the phone expects power provided TO it - just like the USB IrDA dongle's target controller expects power provided TO it.
All of which is not to trivialize the software component.
If the OP's software works on PocketPC but expects a serial port connection to the scanner (IrDA looks like a serial port to software) then his best bet is to find hardware which looks like a serial port to PocketPC software.
Just my $0.02 of course.
Richard
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That's why I said that it would cost money (actually, a lot of money); developing software, drivers or whatever involved in this project wouldn't be cheap.
By the way, regarding power, oh well, this would be the easiest part, supposing that you really need an infrared port. Obviously, you would need an external source (not the most elegant solution), but this is the same case if using any of the other suggested solutions, being something like the TotalRemote IrDA module the exception, which I think could be a good approach.

Tavocr said:
That's why I said that it would cost money (actually, a lot of money); developing software, drivers or whatever involved in this project wouldn't be cheap.
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I don't think you understand. Certainly it's not impossible, but you're asking effectively why grabbing two extension cords and plugging them together doesn't light up a lamp.
The two devices you want to connect BOTH have (for the sake of simplicity) "USB inputs", while a normal PC has "USB outputs". You're proposing hooking two "inputs" together - and there's not really a money solution to that.... in the same sense that you can't just buy a different brand extension cord to make the lamp light up.
Anyway, suffice it to say that for all effective purposes, hooking a USB IrDA dongle up to a USB phone is not going to be practical.
Richard

Sounds like you should run the 8525 (Hermes)

Fahtrim said:
Sounds like you should run the 8525 (Hermes)
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LOL - an even simpler solution! Heck, I'll swap you a fully-decked out 8525 for your Tilt

bluetooth to rs232 to irda.. hmmm!!
Rsolomon,
Thats a brilliant idea... atleast in theory.. and like you said "painful" but maybe worth a shot.
I may just give it a try as I also recollect finding a bluetooth to RS232 adapter/contraption.
I'll post my comments here if I do so.
AJ

ajfloridian said:
I may just give it a try as I also recollect finding a bluetooth to RS232 adapter/contraption.
I'll post my comments here if I do so.
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Cool. Good luck! (Though the 8525 offer stands of course )
Richard

rsolomon said:
LOL - an even simpler solution! Heck, I'll swap you a fully-decked out 8525 for your Tilt
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LOL .. My thoughts exactly. I can top that. I'd give both my Cingular 8500 (non camera) AND Cingular 8125 for a Tilt

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HD2 to VGA/HDMI/COMPOSITE

Is it possible connect HD2 using some adapters to a TV/Monitor ?
thanks
flosan said:
Is it possible connect HD2 using some adapters to a TV/Monitor ?
thanks
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From what I have read about this mobile so far, it does not allow that. Atleast out of box. Devs might be able to "enable" it if the functionality is built-in but locked down.
Mentioned here as well. So best wait and see.
And by the way, welcome to xda-devs! Hope you like it here...
thanks ...
flosan said:
Is it possible connect HD2 using some adapters to a TV/Monitor ?
thanks
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Any updates on this issue?
I would love to have my HD2 connected to TV using HDMI
i've read many articles about that but the only answer is NO, it isn't possible.
I don't think so, Tim.
I have a usb2.0->dvi adapter and I`m going to try it with my hd2 (android 2.2) within few days via micro usb 2 mini usb cable. But I`m pretty sure that this junk won`t work because of lack of drivers.
Nothing like that is going to work as of this moment. I have read that HTC is going to release a DLNA adapter for TVs to have access to streaming media, but it's not till around Feb of next year (and who knows what can happen between then and now). It seems it'll connect to the TV via HDMI cable and if you would rather not use it as a wireless streamer then you could just plug it in via cable (who knows how compatible it will all be though). So in a way it's closer than you think, but still far away and HTC could come up with some bogus excuse to not release it.
shame on htc...

Anyone got an Acer Tempo M900?

hi
i might get an acer tempo m900 because i saw one on expansys.com for £189.99
Brand new!
I think its a bargain but i dont know if they are any good.
Anyone?
flyboy
All i can say is it's not a HTC
Device database has all you need spec wise http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1765&c=acer_m900___tempo__m900
If it was me spending nearly £200 i'd check the market place for a good condition Raphael
i dont like the raphel not big enough screen.
This Acer has got a 3.8" touch screen
Anyway i wouldnt pay over £100 for something second hand.
Anyone got an acer then?
I got the device last week actually. Its a brilliant device but its let down by its lack of ram, although this has not been a problem yet so don't be put off by that.
Theres also a problem with 3.5mm connectivity for headphones.
The screen is very big and nice and the fingerprint reader is a great novelty that has some use.
I would recommend getting it.
So does the acer have an 3.5mm headphone jack or is it usb?
Have you got any pics you can show me that you have taken with the camera?
thanks
flyboy
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
So does the acer have an 3.5mm headphone jack or is it usb?
Have you got any pics you can show me that you have taken with the camera?
thanks
flyboy
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The M900 is a superb machine. I strongly recommend it. It doesn't have a 3.5mm headset socket, though. The wired headset (with mic) is a 10-pin mini-B USB connector. It really doesn't bother me at all, because I seldom use it, since it is required to listen to the FM radio only, as it acts as an antenna. For MP3s and videos (i.e. for all the remaining - and most important - sound sources) I use my SE HBH-IS800 stereo BT headsets. Of course people's needs are quite different. So, if a 3.5mm connector is a must for you, you better consider buying something else.
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos
does it use mini usb port to charge or does acer has it`s own special port for charging?
ja-marcin said:
does it use mini usb port to charge or does acer has it`s own special port for charging?
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Yup! Although its mini-USB port is 10-pin, 5 of them are in the same position as the standard mini-USB. So, any mini-USB cable you might have would charge it (provided it has enough current (mAh), of course), as well as sync it.
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos
ja-marcin are you thinking of getting one?
stylez said:
All i can say is it's not a HTC
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Same opinion
what the htc community is offering is more than acer, but acer are doing ppcs that are the same thing but just cheaper.
Id be going for function and price rather than a specific model with ppcs.
And i wouldnt waste my money on a second hand diamond,tytn Ii, rapheal,prophet when for the same price i get more function, and less money spent
Just makes sense!!

Hehe someone buy this! (TV-out Cable for HD2 on eBay) :)

eBay
TV Out AV Cable For HTC Touch HD2
100% Brand New
Description:-
An accessories that you need to view your phone files on a TV
Some phone models also support transfer of pictures, video clips and powerpoint presentations to the TV.
Compatibility list : HTC TOUCH HD2
The design of actual item may look slightly different from the picture, depending on each batch of stock
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EDIT: For people stumbling across this thread, the joke is this will not now, not ever work with the HD2! Don't waste your time or money hoping otherwise
Where is the hardware on the HD2 ?
It looks like any TV-out cable, I have the same type on my Omnia Pro.
The question is : Can the HD2 use the video out ? I don't recall seeing it in hardware specification.
Edit: Anyway I've just bought one, it was cheap enough for a TV-out and if it doesn't get used with HD2, I can still use it with Omnia Pro
I don't get the joke.
I seriously doubt it will work. If, by some miracle it does work, let us know.
To be honest I doubt it will do anything, but I needed a TV-out cable anyway
You might want to give this thread a read before you try the cable. There's some registry changes & cabs that you might want to play around with to see if you can actually get tv out on the hd2. Probably wont work, but might as well try if you're getting the cable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577338
impossible!!! where is the cable plugged in?
This is a standard 3.5mm jack with stereo + video. You can plug it like you would plug the headset in
My old N900 could do this, right out of box, with a tv out (3.5 mm jack) Whyy cant the HD2?
Your OLD ??? N900 , if its that old ill be happy to take it off your hands lol
GamerMYJ said:
My old N900 could do this, right out of box, with a tv out (3.5 mm jack) Whyy cant the HD2?
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Because the N900 has a specific software (and hardware) unlike the HD2.
my nokia n96 had a cable that plugged into the audio slot and then the 3 coloured cable that go into tv, if i can find it ill test it and let u know
Why would you trust some eejit on eBay selling a cable saying it's compatible with your phone, over the countless threads on xda explaining why TV Out is not possible on the HD2.
Here's a hint, the part of the Snapdragon chipset that deals with TV out is not connected to anything. Unless you plan on soldering the connector into your 3.5mm jack yourself, it's never going to work.
elyl said:
Why would you trust some eejit on eBay selling a cable saying it's compatible with your phone, over the countless threads on xda explaining why TV Out is not possible on the HD2.
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Because I have another phone that can use this cable
TrYde said:
Because I have another phone that can use this cable
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hd2 doesnot have tv out hardware
hoss_n2 said:
hd2 doesnot have tv out hardware
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Hes saying he has a OTHER phone for it.
Sorry, already sold the N900!
TrYde said:
Where is the hardware on the HD2 ?
It looks like any TV-out cable, I have the same type on my Omnia Pro.
The question is : Can the HD2 use the video out ? I don't recall seeing it in hardware specification.
Edit: Anyway I've just bought one, it was cheap enough for a TV-out and if it doesn't get used with HD2, I can still use it with Omnia Pro
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Did you get, try the cable yet? I've read about this with the EVO but nothing specific with the HD2.
Ive got a cable that plugs into the HD2 via the usb...
it allows you to turn your HD2 into a hot-plate for cooking eggs and such.
you want one? i sell it to you for £4.99 +P&P
I always did want a gadget that could do everything, like schoolwork and make breakfast. This would definitely get me closer
quasi_mojo said:
Ive got a cable that plugs into the HD2 via the usb...
it allows you to turn your HD2 into a hot-plate for cooking eggs and such.
you want one? i sell it to you for £4.99 +P&P
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Why does everyone have to be so negative. Will it work? according to reports probably not, but if someone is going to do the rest of us a favor and test it out say thank you and see if it works.

Portable webcam?

So as we are all aware, the captivate does not have a front facing camera. This doesn't bother me considering I never video chat. However, that may not be the same case for others. I was thinking today, computers and laptops have plugin webcams for USB ports. Why not smartphones? It could plug right into the top of the phone via the micro USB port and be the size of something like a wireless mouse receiver for a laptop. Could something like this physically be done? I know people who could do the physical part of the work like make the actual prototype, but would any coding/scripting need to be done inside the phone? I think it something alot of people want/need and could be profitable if successful. Share your opinions. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum or is a prepost...
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sandrich said:
So as we are all aware, the captivate does not have a front facing camera. This doesn't bother me considering I never video chat. However, that may not be the same case for others. I was thinking today, computers and laptops have plugin webcams for USB ports. Why not smartphones? It could plug right into the top of the phone via the micro USB port and be the size of something like a wireless mouse receiver for a laptop. Could something like this physically be done? I know people who could do the physical part of the work like make the actual prototype, but would any coding/scripting need to be done inside the phone? I think it something alot of people want/need and could be profitable if successful. Share your opinions. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum or is a prepost...
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I think if people are going to have to carry around a separate piece of equipment for video chat, they may as well not worry about software and just use one of those mirror attachments I have seen out there. Then you'd have a 5 MP FFC instead of a 1.3 MP one like most FFCs.
I for one would like that feature. It will be a while before I can upgrade again to a newer phone that has video chat and such. I don't know coding and such but I couldn't see why someone couldn't create an app that can be installed with said hardware if one was made. I too think something like that would be awesome. I can't see why if one can be added onto a laptop ( that doesn't already have one) with the added program files why something like that wouldn't work here.
I wouldn't mind carrying a extra bit of hardware with me. I mean I already bring with me an extra battery charger and my bluetooth and wired headsets. It wouldn't be something that would be used all the time. Another feature that our cpativates are lacking that could be added is a led light for when using the webcam. I have thought about making a case or something that has a led light that can (at least) run off a seperate battery and have a switch to turn on the light. But if something could. E done with a webcam that has a light also ( possibly a swivel webcam that rotates so you can either use it for video chat or as a seperate video camera) then you could have the led light turn on when needed for the camera or video functions. Good luck and make millions$. I am sure something like that could be a big seller for even cross platforms for phones that do not have video webcam/ chat or at least for all the android phones that don't.
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It is possible. Just need someone to work on it. See the link in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872377
GAMacky said:
It is possible. Just need someone to work on it. See the link in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872377
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Sounds like we should start a bounty. I'd love to be able to attach a MIDI controller.
The camera really would not need to be that big. If you look at the size of the camera night now its basically as big as a shirt button. I was thinking if you used something like a JIG but with a small camera on top it really should be no bigger then a quarter. Personally I be willing to pay maybe $100 for a little plug in video camera like that.
I would really like to see something like what the Motorola Atrix has going on with the ability to connect to a computer a basically have the Android OS running as separate OS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIe8wQBqS0&hd=1
That would be a great idea.... But its probably done, just some product marketing guy needs to say ok sell it....
Cause doesn't the new google laptop have a webcam? That webcam piece is the size of strip of gum usually. Just need the connector and done.
I would much rather have some sort of small mirror/prism attachment that would piggy-back on the top of the phone, feeding my image into the already existing image into the camera.
Heck,
would sitting in front of a mirror and using skype/qik work?

MicroUsb to USB cables

I know there are a couple threads out there concerning this cable/adapter. Most were of suggestions but no feedback. Anyone find a good one out there that works with flash drive? I know some people mentioned that the cables they found blocked the head phone jack, did anyone find one that didn't? Any information would be appreciated thanks!
http://dx.com/p/otg-connection-kit-w-usb-sd-tf-card-reader-for-samsung-i9100-i9220-black-135480
i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
Go on ebay and use the following search phrase:
otg micro cable left angled
Look at the pictures carefully though in order to make sure that a) it ends in the desired USB female connector, and b) the left angle is truly left. There are some listings that are still right-angled even though the description says "left angled".
Oh, and you'll likely have to wait for shipping from China.
Also on Amazon if you search for:
SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable Flash Drive SD T-Flash Card Adapter
The first one in the results looks like it's angled correctly. Also from China.
funkdoobi said:
i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
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That sounds awesome but unfortunately its sold out right now !
I'll try the ebay option too but we all know how trustworthy dealers are on email with electronic components. I am not in too big of a hurry for the item since Google hasn't even shipped out my Nexus 10 yet.
funkdoobi said:
http://dx.com/p/otg-connection-kit-w-usb-sd-tf-card-reader-for-samsung-i9100-i9220-black-135480
i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
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This is amazing. I didn't know this existed? I had seen a model from Japan that didn't have the wire at all, and kinda just sat flush with your device. (Not too flush, still jutted out quite a bit.) But either/or is good for trips when you need some extra space.
Thank you! Ordering one as soon as these mofo's go back in stock....
DTB
DonToolBag said:
This is amazing. I didn't know this existed? I had seen a model from Japan that didn't have the wire at all, and kinda just sat flush with your device. (Not too flush, still jutted out quite a bit.) But either/or is good for trips when you need some extra space.
Thank you! Ordering one as soon as these mofo's go back in stock....
DTB
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I know its awesome. They have plenty of those for the samsung galaxy tabs (some withe even 5 different ports) made by Samsung. However the 7 pin adapter doesn't work the nexus. I'm hoping samsung does the same (with an audio jack) for the Nexus. Kind of infuriating that there is no support from Google or Samsung insight for accessories. Especially since these attachments are what separates them from their competitors (IPad can't use a flash drive because of the power limitation)
I wonder if this might work sense the 1 above appears to be sold out:
http://www.amazon.com/Koolertron-Samsung-I9220-I9250-Reader/dp/B008ZXRCEG

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