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Hello all,
The clock alarm of my Kaiser has a very unconfortable two bugs:
SCENARIO
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I configure the three posible clock alarms, at different hours: 7:00 AM, 7:15 AM and 7:30 AM. At this moment, it works perfectly, the three alarms raise and sound.
BUG #1
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Once the three alarms are configured and checked, if one or more are unchecked, but at least one is still checked, the THREE alarms will sound! So it seems to be that it is not possible to have just ONE alarm once you have configured and checked the three possible.
BUG #2
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Once the three alarms are configured and checked, if the hours are changed, it will make the phone to raise the new configured alarms and the old-non-existing ones!!! For example:
I configured & checked this three alarms: 7:00AM, 7:15AM, 7:30AM. The next day, I re-configure the three alarms to: 6:00AM, 6:05AM, 6:10AM. Then, in the morning the phone raised the alarms 6:00AM, 6:05AM, 6:10AM ... AND (INCREDIBLY)... the alarms of 7:00AM, 7:15AM, 7:30AM. How can it be possible???? If it is only possible to have configured three alarms at once???
Anyone experiencing this bug? Or anyone not experiencing it (but configuring alarms the way I do)??? Anyone with some information at respect?
Thanks a lot!
Hi
I have had an alarm go off an hour early (this wasn't when the clocks changed either), but thankfully don't use the alarm very often.
I can well believe the bugs exist
Regards
Phil
Did set the alarm once at 8.30am and it did not ring. Got up 10 minutes late and check my alarm settings, all was correct but it just did not ring. Ever since then, i lost faith in the build in alarm and started using SPB Time.
I had mullitple bugs with the WM built in alarms. On three different phones. 3125, then 8125, then 8525. I don't bother with it on the Tilt. I found the best solution is to use something else, like Spb Time. Or some other time program of your liking.
Yep, it's an all too well known WM problem. If however you run Memmaid or SKtools to clear duplicates in the "Notifications Queue" you will find it works well (for most folks anyway). I use the alarm for work and by routinely clearing the notifications queue (that sadly WM alllows to get cluttered with old stuff) I do not have problems.
Mike
I too have this exact problem! Only because I accidentally changed my time zone I get 9 alarms per day, monday to friday! Slack, WM6 has a Windows Update feature, they should bloody well use it to fix the problem! Useless turds...
Had the same problem the other day with alarms sounding that I had supposedly cancelled. After trawling through posts on this site I found the solution: I downloaded the free trial of Pocket Mechanic Pro from wizcode (handango) and ran the notification queue. This revealed 2 obsolete alarm settings which appear as a clock.exe items in the list. Deleted them both and the alarms ceased. Quite a good bit of software anyway. Will probably purchase when the 30 day trial finishes...
I think it's a fairly well known bug.
I think the easiest way to fix it is to disable all the alarms, then soft reset it. Then enable the alarms again and they should work as expected.
Install Tweakster and clear the cache files. You most likely have remnants of old alarm settings.
This problem of re-occurring canceled alarms surfaces if you have installed one of Schaps ROMs. Schaps does not believe in placing auto cache clean in his Roms.
Also this problem surfaces if you have installed a Travel Software or 3RD party Alarms like any of SPB products. Make sure to install a Task manager program like the HTC task manager or even a program like Memmaid, to clear all temp files, and to clean your reg cache.
I have memmaid but it does not find erraneous alarms.
Yesterday I set three alarms to 0700 and 0705 and 0710 (all AM).
Today I set three alarms to 1800 and 1805 and 1810 ( 6pm).
The phone rang at 0700 and 0705 and 0710 and then also at 1800 1805 and 1810.
I ran memmaid notification que,duplicates,dangling and expired. It didnt pick up the wrong ones.
I have to manually delete them.
I did search first, and my problem isn't the normal "multiple alarms at one time"...The reminders are going off like they should AND at the time of appt (not normal). Anyone encounter this? Is that a system setting I accidentally changed?
Things I've done lately:
- Loaded Kaiser Tweaks, made some recommended changes.
- Loaded the Tilt Cab for SPB Mobile Shell (enables themes to work).
- Some appt. times were off an hour, so changed time zone back and forth.
- Loaded Chartcross GPS Test
- Loaded then removed the HTC Keyboard/Dialer Cab
I do us MemMaid all the time and remove duplicated entries...
I don't know if this is the reason for your issue, but Windows Mobile by default is suppose to play a reminder X min/hours before the start time (whatever you set) and then if you DO NOT "Dismiss" that reminder it will play again at the start time of the appointment.
Are you maybe not dismissing the first reminder?
Thanks for the reply - Yes, I am. I even made a Test Appt - for 10am, with a reminder of 15 minutes. It went off at 945am...I dismissed...all was quiet until 10am.
happens to me too
I have a tilt, and I'm running the latest tilt unreleased official rom from the upgrading forum here.
ROM Version: ATT rom aku 0.4.4 build 18128
Radio: 1.27.14.09
Same exact thing happens to me. This was also happening with the rom that came on the tilt originally. when I dismiss an appt, I get a notification at the time it is supposed to happen too.
I checked under notifications after dismissing one, and I did not see the appt. in the list. I did see "enrollnot" at the appt. time, but that was it.
I haven't looked too much through the registry for a switch to turn this off, but it is pretty annoying.
This is happening to me too. It's not really a big problem for me even though I use my appointments constantly for work. It's just a minor annoyance. A fix would be nice though.
Then I guess this behavior is normal now, and I didn't necessarily screw something up. Having used a WM device since 2001, I just never encountered that - and I just got the Tilt this week and assumed it was me since I couldn't find any forums reporting the "problem".
Thanks for the replies, and I agree - it would be nice to have a setting to allow this "feature" or turn it off.
This is especially annoying for birthday reminders. I have them set to remind me 7 hours before (i.e. 5pm the night before). Problem is that even though I dismiss the reminder, I get woken up at 12am since these are all day events. Ugghhh...
Happens to me too.
emmett said:
This is especially annoying for birthday reminders. I have them set to remind me 7 hours before (i.e. 5pm the night before). Problem is that even though I dismiss the reminder, I get woken up at 12am since these are all day events. Ugghhh...
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I have the same exact problem!
mine too and I'm using the original AT&T ROM...
Unless this is a new feature to WM6, I've never seen this happen on any other version of WM.
For those of you having this issue, do you have the following software running:
AlarmPal
AlarmToday
PhoneAlarm
or some other calendar or reminder enhancement app such as SPB Pocket Plus w/ Repeating Alarams addon installed?
smittyofdhs said:
For those of you having this issue, do you have the following software running:
AlarmPal
AlarmToday
PhoneAlarm
or some other calendar or reminder enhancement app such as SPB Pocket Plus w/ Repeating Alarams addon installed?
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I am experiencing the same thing, and I don't have any of the mentioned apps running. Nothing more than the built-in calendar and tasks, actually.
FIXED on my tilt
I compared the registry entries for the calendar between my tilt and 8525. I found some differences between them, and modified the tilt registry settings. this problem has now gone away for me. I think it was because of one of these bits under DEFAULTS in this key, but you never know.....
Here's what I changed:
old tilt with repeated reminders at appointment time:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Calendar\Reminder]
"DEFAULTS"=hex:1e,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,a0,44,03,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"WAVEFILE"=""
new tilt today that does not repeat reminders:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Calendar\Reminder]
"DEFAULTS"=hex:1e,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,60,72,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"WAVEFILE"=""
maybe someone with access to the WM6 manuals has the decode for this key.
wwwes said:
I compared the registry entries for the calendar between my tilt and 8525. I found some differences between them, and modified the tilt registry settings. this problem has now gone away for me. I think it was because of one of these bits under DEFAULTS in this key, but you never know.....
Here's what I changed:
old tilt with repeated reminders at appointment time:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Calendar\Reminder]
"DEFAULTS"=hex:1e,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,a0,44,03,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"WAVEFILE"=""
new tilt today that does not repeat reminders:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Calendar\Reminder]
"DEFAULTS"=hex:1e,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,60,72,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"WAVEFILE"=""
maybe someone with access to the WM6 manuals has the decode for this key.
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FYI.... make sure to use the CODE tags when adding registry entries. Look carefully and you will find extra spaces in your post above. If someone were to copy/paste that code, they would get the extra spaces making the key not work properly. By adding the code tags, this won't happen.
HMMMM....fixed? maybe, maybe not
I think I had this happen again today, after a few days of no repeats I got one today. Not sure if this fixed it or not. YMMV.
I'm going to let it simmer a few more days and see if it was a fluke, or if it really didn't fix the issue.
I think it's a WM bug because mine will do this off and on. I've never really noticed it until this thread was started but I've kept my eye on it and I get one that's multiple one time, then the next notification won't be. No ryhme or reason to it.
I agree, seems to be sporadic.
I'm on the stock AT&T 1.60 Tilt ROM and thought this was consistantly happening for me. So yesterday, rather than doing the Snooze for 15 mins, I just hit dismiss. 30 mins later I realized it never went off again and I missed my meeting . So yeah, it doesn't seem to consistent...
every 2 or 3 days when my alarm sounds i get no onscreen noticfication to dismiss the alarm, only the symbol in the status bar.
When i look into sounds notification/reminders i see the "display message on screen" box is unchecked again so i recheck it.
What causes this to uncheck itself?
are you experiancing this behaviour or have any insight into the cause?
thanks
I have the exact same prob. It started when I used Diamond TF3D Config prog to change the diamond theme.
Dont know why it happens bro.
Anyone knows how to disable Missed Alarm Alert (symbol on the status bar) so I don't need to go to status bar console and remove it every morning ?
drdoc said:
I have the exact same prob. It started when I used Diamond TF3D Config prog to change the diamond theme.
Dont know why it happens bro.
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I believe i was having this problem before i had installed Diamond TF3D.
The search continues.
Im having the problem on TLR3 ROM and i know people who are also haveing this trouble on 1.37 original ROM and the 1.93 Original.
I'm using TF3D Config and also 1.93 ROM but I don't seem to have this issue?
Although I have never used it to apply a 'theme' only, to change date/time format and apply one of the performance tweaks.
Have you guys updated your TF3D config via apptodate and also tried restoring defaults (within TF3D config) and then tried applying your settings again?
i too only use TF3D config to format the date, i have updated it using apptodate.
I may uninstall it and see what effect that has, im not really sure that TF3D is the cause of the problem.
rumpleforeskin said:
i know people who are also haveing this trouble on 1.37 original ROM and the 1.93 Original.
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Yes, I'm on the original 1.37 ROM and am seeing this - bl00dy annoying too as it seems such an odd 'bug'....
Mathew
Had this happen again today, really annoys the wife as i spend time trying get the phone to shut up.
I have made no progress determining the cause, but it does only seem to uncheck the box after a soft reset, but strangley not after every soft reset..... the plot thickens
This problem only happens after i reset the device, but not every time.
As i cant find the cause i was thinking of a way to fix the problem.
i found the reg entry for the reminders show "on screen"
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{15F11F90-8A5F-454c-89FC-BA9B7AAB0CAD}
and i have the values for the box checked and unckecked.
I have been googleing for the past hour but having no luck with what i want to achieve.
I would like to write a batch file to open a reg file that will change the dismiss box registry entry to the checked value, but it seems batch files cannot be run from the windows start up folder.
Im not very technically skilled with programming so could someone more knolegable point me towards the correct way of doing what i desired, which is change a rehgistry value at start up.
rumpleforeskin said:
i found the reg entry for the reminders show "on screen"
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{15F11F90-8A5F-454c-89FC-BA9B7AAB0CAD}
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I could write an executable that will restore the registry entires on start-up but I can't find the registry value that controls it.
Which value are you editing?
Start / Settings / Sounds and Notifications
Page Notifications
Event - choose Reminders
Check on Display Message.
CHEERS
pegaz said:
Start / Settings / Sounds and Notifications
Page Notifications
Event - choose Reminders
Check on Display Message.
CHEERS
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If that was in reply to me, I'm looking for registry entry!
This thread seems closest to the problem I have.
For me it is always that on alarm there is no popup where I can dismiss the or snooze the alarm
I always have to unlock the phone (by entering password), tap the status bar, then choose the alarm button and then the pop up appears as it should have done by itself.
This is always, no matter if I reset or not. And, I have checked on "display message" when I look into the settings.
This is freaking weird and annoying.
I've noticed the box unchecks after the sync process via Activesync.
I'm pretty sure it's caused by particular side software we have installed on our Diamons. I propose to post the side software list we have and then point out the pattern.
My list:
MS Voice Command
Finix Battery Icon
Splash ID
Sprite Backup
Diamond Tweak
Resco Explorer
Yandex Maps
Skype
CorePlayer
G-Alarm
Manila Calculator Skin
Yota TV
Nice idea but already flawed given you've not published an exhaustive list. A case in point being Activesync - that's a resident piece of software and furthermore one which you suspect as possibly being responsible!
Or are you certain it is a non-Windows issue? That's quite a leap of faith given we've all previously been scratching our heads...
I don't mean to come across negative, but I also don't want to see a futile attempt at finding a solution!
Mathew
No I am not pretty sure it's not Windows issue. However, if it is, why there are so few of us suffering?
I suspect G-Alarm, got to try to play around with it being uninstalled.
I'm having the same annoying problem since running the 2.03 official ROM. On the 1.93 I never had this problem. I didn't install G-alarm or TF3DConfig.
Moonsower said:
No I am not pretty sure it's not Windows issue. However, if it is, why there are so few of us suffering?
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That's a very good point, although it could quite simply be down to a combination of i) a limited number of people using the alarm, ii) affected users not being bothered by the issue, and/or iii) affected people not realising they are being affected!
I suspect G-Alarm, got to try to play around with it being uninstalled.
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For what it's worth I've never used G-Alarm...
Mathew
Polluxus said:
I'm having the same annoying problem since running the 2.03 official ROM. On the 1.93 I never had this problem. I didn't install G-alarm or TF3DConfig.
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I had it on 1.93 and still on 2.03
Hi folks
I'm just curious as to what alarm applications you guys are using. I'm find the built in "Clock & Alarms" to be somewhat limited as it only allows for 3 alarms.
I would like something similar to it, but to be able to easily add new alarms, and maybe even customize the ringtone/vibrations for them individualy, if possible.
Thanks for your interest
lelepu said:
Hi folks
I'm just curious as to what alarm applications you guys are using. I'm find the built in "Clock & Alarms" to be somewhat limited as it only allows for 3 alarms.
I would like something similar to it, but to be able to easily add new alarms, and maybe even customize the ringtone/vibrations for them individualy, if possible.
Thanks for your interest
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You won't find anything better than G-alarm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422362
I use the alarm functionality in MortPlayer.
It has the advantage of turning the volume up and launching itself (obviously).
This leaves my phone ready to resume playing the podcast or audio book I was listening to the night before with just one button press.
This affords me another 30 seconds in bed ;-)
Lanroth
I've tried them all, and for me, the best is phoneAlarm, PERIOD!!!
SPB Time
While not free, it is a nice option. Very easy to use.
After trying Mobile Shell, I tried just about everything else the SPB house has put out. Some I tried and deleted, like the lame SPB Online, this is one I kept.
i second G-alarm. nice if you are looking for a free program.
pTravelAlarm
I also agree that G-Alarm is one of the best. You can set multiple alarms for reoccurring times and days. Also, you have to make a ball run through a maze before you can hit the "Snooze" button. It kind of forces your mind to wake so you dont just roll over, hit a snooze and fall back asleep
Also, it also automatically turns the volume to max even if its on silent. Handy feature if you do like I do and leave your cell on silent all of the time when working, then forget to turn it back on later
pyraxiate said:
I also agree that G-Alarm is one of the best. You can set multiple alarms for reoccurring times and days. Also, you have to make a ball run through a maze before you can hit the "Snooze" button. It kind of forces your mind to wake so you dont just roll over, hit a snooze and fall back asleep
Also, it also automatically turns the volume to max even if its on silent. Handy feature if you do like I do and leave your cell on silent all of the time when working, then forget to turn it back on later
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Here's a good one, too.
SPB Time
Like someone said earlier: Since I use Spb Mobile Shell, I found that Spb Time is perfect. It includes an optional today plugin and can be a tab in Mobile Shell. It lets you set one-time alarms, recurring alarms and you can set specific sound files to each one (can also set to vibrate and auto-snooze).
I still use pTravelalarm.
http://www.fizzsoftware.com/products/alarms/alarms.html
very good, and finger-friendly. installed all of the others mentioned above and winded up using this. Still happy.
I thought this should be fixed by now (before I had WM5 and later WM6, where interestingly enough the problem did not occour), but actually it's worse than ever.
On my Vario III with WM6.1 I can define 3 alarms (and I don't mean notifications in the calendar or stuff like that, I'm talking about ALARMS, i.e. what gets you up in the morning ).
The problem is that all 3 Alarms remain active and go off even if they are not defined as active. Also older Alarms go off which I have deleted some time ago.
I googled on this and one site recommended MemMaid which was supposed to take care of this problem. Well, in theory it is, in practice sadly not, as it does tell me that there are no duplicate or uncorrect notifications in the notification queue - yet there I can see them with my own eyes. I tried a little bit and it's definitely those entries. I have deactivated all my alarms which should result in no entries in the NQ, yet there they remain and go off in the morning (along with all the others, existent or non-existent, active or not active). I can remove them manually to solve the problem one time, but as soon as I define some new alarms it is back again.
Can anybody help me with that. As it is I cannot use my Vario III as an alarm clock in the morning because I have no way to tell which one of the "illegal" alarms will go off, so I just put in on mute and use a regular alarm clock.
Hoi Eric, I did have the same problem (i think) with my previous WM version. When i did go on a bisiness trip and did change my Visiting time my alarm still goes of on the Home time. I where not able to fix this. I did an hard reset and never changed the visiting time until i did an rom update. Now i an running an update like this: (this is not the one, i used V8 from june, but i cant find the link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507281
and the problem is gone. I can set an visting time and i have no more problems. I hope this was helpful. goodluck
Try G-Alarm
I use G-Alarm and it will try to fix the Windows alarm problem the first time you run it.
G-Alarm 1.5.1 is the last free version before they went commercial.
This is not my 4shared. I only found it from a Google search. Thanks to the host for making this availible.
Hope this helps!
mrdiavolo said:
I use G-Alarm and it will try to fix the Windows alarm problem the first time you run it.
G-Alarm 1.5.1 is the last free version before they went commercial.
This is not my 4shared. I only found it from a Google search. Thanks to the host for making this availible.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the tip. I am still not sure if this has solved the problem though. After installing G-Alarm reported to fix the Windows Alarm bug, I thought "hey, cool". Yet today in the morning again rang 2 alarms of which only one was set. I am not sure as if this "fix" was just fixing lacking functionality or if it was supposed to also remove any false alarms. In the latter case it didn't do that.
Anyway, I deactivated all alarms and then removed all the alarm entries I could find from the registry manually to make sure that there was really no alarm active. Then I set a new alarm for testing. This went off as expected, so I deactivated it and set yet a new alarm for waking me up tomorrow.
As far as I can tell from the registry this new alarm is the only one active now (for whatever reason there are 4 entries of it in the registry), but that remains to be seen tomorrow.
Will report back once I know more.
As to G-Alarm: It's a nice program, but setting up an alarm is way to much effort (I think you have to pass through 6 steps) compared to the built-in alarm function of WM. It's got some nice features, I must admit, yet all I really care about is a reliable alarm feature, that's all.
I report back and indeed G-alarm was the solution to this problem. Yet it only fixes the Alarm Bug in WM, it does not fix (delete) the false alarm entries in the registry. In order to be rid of false alarms that must be done manually. from that moment on the alarms work as they are supposed to.
Thanks for the help, guys.
I'm not so good in English ... but do you say that G-Alarm fixed your problem ? .. cause I'm having the same problem last 2 weeks ...
or the only way is doing it through the registry manual ? if yes ... can you pls PM me some instructions how to do that?
how to remove ghost alarms
EricCartman said:
I report back and indeed G-alarm was the solution to this problem. Yet it only fixes the Alarm Bug in WM, it does not fix (delete) the false alarm entries in the registry. In order to be rid of false alarms that must be done manually. from that moment on the alarms work as they are supposed to.
Thanks for the help, guys.
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Those alarms are called "ghost alarms". I used the applicatioin MemMaid and it fixed that problem.
I hope this helps.
Edit: I found this, but I didn't try it
http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/tamir/archive/2008/01/31/my-windows-mobile-does-not-sound-alarms-my-windows-mobile-alerts-whenever-it-want-to-alert.aspx