is it possible to make an already full patched(button fix,camera,bluetooth,etc) rom with all basic programs (such as mms client,stk,backlight,etc)?
i think yes but i'm not able to make it..it will be very usefull for newbies such me..
with this full rom you do not need to post lots of duplicated threads and all will works since the beginning..
yeah i would like that to,
so we only have to install it without patching and so
very good idea!!!!
but now, apart the Wiki, there is a list of all patchs that must be installed?!
'cause I don't have enough time to read alle the pages in WM5 problem resolutions thread
well,
so far, i created a project for a extended rom under wm2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Extended_ROM
Butt im stuck, it will not install off the rom after a hard reset.
If this would be working we do not have to worry anymore if we forgot or lost our sd card for the neccesary patches.
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
and a set of default programs:
pdf reader
xscaler
pocketplus
pocketrar
etc..
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
It has to work first.
So anybody already found a working autorun.exe and config.txt files?
I Tried alot of those two, but still not able to get it working under te extended rom after a hard reset.
efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
flagg said:
efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
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Yes i dont have to use it; but if the patches are no longer released separately then i have no choice. If there is a choice of all-in-one rom and non-patched that will be ok. But you have to think of who creates the rom, it may be easier just to maintain one rom version. I guess we have to wait and see..
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
efjay said:
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
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Not yet, preparing my device now, autorun is 17kb from this one
setup is 104kb, looks common, exept the dates are a bit older.
Manually launching the autorun of files on the extended rom will work, so i guess that i have to do a hardreset again, thats what i going to do later the evening. lol 8)
:evil: :evil:
No luck. wil not automaticly run.
Still need to make the rom visible and run the autorun.exe for the installs.
But this is the nearest solution for now i guess.
So you still need a single cabfile on a sd card to unhide your rom and install all files on there.
If anybody knows the bytes to change in the nbk or nbf files or maybe in the bootstrap, the adaption could be completed and the patches would automaticly install after a hardreset. .
please don't OT
...so
dev can make all in one rom and single patch
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
i for one would love an all encompassing rom patch. reading through all the duplicate posts and other resolutions is a real hassle for noobs. we see the same questions being asked every 3 days or so and it just creates more clutter for the other noobs to sift through. i figure a lot of those fixes should be included in the next patch of the current wm5 rom anyhow if people rather wait for that to come around.
Closer said:
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
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nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
we are all noob..we are all waiting for you :lol:
if ppl want to install single patch one by one they can do that
but i think that for noobs this is such as an "official" rom
tested and approved from xda devs
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
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did not work, did the autorun in a folder called 2577. cab files on the root.
did a hard reset, but would still not install.
The screen of the 3sec before install wont pop up
But after i made my extended rom visible, it automaticly runs after a soft reset.(the 3sec screen pops up )
(last problem?)
But i'm going to get some sleep now, maybe that will help a bit :shock:
flagg said:
nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
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OK! now I'm ready to flash with Mamaich Patch 3 ..
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
mamaich said:
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
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ok, then put that folder on your SD card.
buzz
I got the O2 Xda IIs Model PH20B and now upgraded to ROM Version 6.50.28WWE. Radio Version 1.12.00, Protocol Version 1337.42. The CPU is PXA263 wuth 400 MHZ and 112MB RAM. Flash Chip type 28F128K3
The office mobile doesn't work anymore, the things that haven't worked before (like PSSHutXp, TomTom etc) don't work. It can't be connected to any computer not by Active Sync on Windows 2k or XP, and not with Windows Mobile on Vista. I have a lot of icons duplicated on the desktop with (1) behind the name aka Calendar and Calendar (1) and can't get rid of them.... what can I do? Can any one help me please? I am ready to throw that thing out of the window!
Thanks a lot in advance
.
I suggest you to do a hard reset...
Have you dit it when you was upgrading?
Because after upgrade you have to do it, to avoid problems with some pieces of applications , that have been left in your memory...
thanks for your reply, much appreciated. Yes I did hard reset it, it won't even use the Extrom on the SDCard to give me office or anything, even it said the cabs are installed. Stupid thing!
I now went back to the original O2 crap old ROM and search for 6.1 but I can't seem to find one that works, the ones I found on here don't install right away but go through syncing, which mine won't so it keeps saying the device doesn't respond lol. I think I seriously give up soon and just throw it out I had enough, and I am good with computers etc usually, I build them and all, just I never had a PDA before.
Anyone know something?
if it didn't use the extrom from the sd card you probably still have the internal extrom in the device and forgot to format and resize it before you first upgraded to wm5 and above. what you need to do to get rid of all that old crap is:
1. downgrade to your shipped rom, remember, now that your device is WWE, you need to use MAupgradeut_noID and botloader to avoid country id and device id errors.
2. download xda-unlocker.cab and repartDOC.exe and put them on an sd card. install the unlocker.
3. run the unlocker by going to the start menu, EXTROM tools, click "Unhide" then "Unlock"
4. run repartDOC and set the size to 128kb
5. run the unlocker again by going to the start menu, EXTROM tools, this time click "Lock" then "Hide"
6. now your device does not have the internal extrom anymore, meaning you have 16MB more storage capacity and you can use extroms coming from the sd card.
7. then flash back the new rom, say wm6.1, again using the MAupgradeut_noID and bootloader mode.
8. when done, perform a hard reset, notice that the procedure for hard resetting changed, (press reset+power+record+camera)
9. in the menu appearing, the options ARE set:
Enable KITL: YES
clean registry hive: NO
format storage: NO
using the camera and record button, flip all the settings, so it says:
Enable Kitl: NO
clean registry hive: YES
format storage YES
10. confirm with the mail button, your screen turns white, and after some time, the device boots and installs the extrom from the sd card.
that is the procedure to go through, when first upgrading to wm5 and above and since your device made special problems, my wildest guess would be, that you forgot to resize the extrom, which is the reason the sd card's extrom was not loaded. plus you probably performed no hard reset or did it wrong, which is why the device was filled with garbage even after flashing a new rom.
if that manual was to fast, or you didn't get any of the things above, there is a wizard (assistant, not the device) in the wiki, to guide through the upgrade process, there you will also find the download links for the mentioned unlocker and repartdoc:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
that link is already one step into the problem and starts with the extrom resize, assuming that you flash your shipped rom first, and need no help doing that.
remember: you cannot resize your extrom from wm5 and above, for your device to run properly, you need to go back to wm2003 first.
have fun and good luck with that
Thank you very much Chef Tony. I was willing to put it up for sale but I will try what you suggested once again, even I am sure I ran through it all and did it, but it doesn't hurt to try it again. If I am still too stupid to use the Blue Angel, or still don't get along with it, I can always sell it afterwards.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
UPDATE:
I have done it on my XP computer this time, not Vista, and it worked. The other thing I did wrong, no laugh at me if you want LOL, but I am a novice and have my blonde moments , and never did this before, I unrared ALL the files in the EXTROM Folder... this time I only unrared the main folder and put them all on the card as they were inside that unpacked EXTROM Folder. Works like a charm now and the programs are installed and I can use it... saves me a LOT of money as I was ready to sell everything I have to sell to get the iphone, now thanks to you I can use the XDA IIs as it should work.
I owe you one! VIELEN LIEBEN DANK FUER DEINE HILFE.
Hi,
just upgraded to wm6.5 using your great tutorial, and used one of the ROM files in there (21198.7Z)
After succesful upgrade, I get a messgae that this copy will expire in 30 days .
Do you know anything about that? Is there anything I can do to remove this time limit thing?
If I'll need to flash another ROM of wm6.5 (because of this trial limit, or just to try another ROM), do I follow the regular steps, starting from "put your device in Bootloader mode", or should I downgrade again completely to windows 2003SE?
Any help to this confused soul will be appreciated...
yes, the expiration date of the 21198 is known. what you need to do is upgrade to 21202.
the procedure is the standard one, bootloader, flashing, hard reset, extrom
password for RAR files
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/61f981ae01254fb02966f2d3eceed652/rand/604774532
i've download the file *.Nbf
but cannot extract the prompt is wrong password
But at xda-developers
the password is [email protected]#$DEWBSH^g47HW$%UN#%GYMK%#$?W5xxwIHJYH
i've try but always interupt.
want to upgrade but unsure seeing others problems
Hi, new to flashing PDA's but literate with pc's.
I have read a number of times through the instructions to upgrade BA (xda iis) from wm2003se to wm6.5.
Firstly, I have downloaded the upgrade 21198 but now I see that this has an expiration. You advise above to use a different file but I can't find this revision on the xda site. Can you advise?
Also, the main reason I haven't progressed any further is unsure of steps in relation to the placement of the files. As I said, I have read the instructions but still not quite sure what to do.
I have downloaded the file 21198 (although this may change prior to doing an upgrade) but where do I put this? On the SD card or on my PC?
Do I need to unrar it first or leave as is?
When I run maupgrade_noid, is this run from the PC or from the SD Card?
In step 5, it states "quickly press buttons prior to version appearing" what happens if the version appears first and if it does, what steps do you need to go back to to rectify?
Sorry for so many questions, but I don't want to stuff my device or spend hours trying to return to a functional wm2003se system.
Your assistance is appreciated. (I am very much a step by step person when it comes to doing these things. Once understood, no problem from then on)
Thanks,
yes, you should not try the 21198 anymore, download the 21202 here: it is the release r6.1 (yes, it is wm6.5, not 6.1).
then make sure to read this and follow all the wizard's steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardMain
that wizard also explains, how to resize the storage, which needs to be done BEFORE you flash another rom.
then, to go to your further questions, the file you downloaded needs to be extracted on your pc and it contains a rom file named nk.nbf, a few other files, and very important: a MAupgradeut_noID file, which you need to run to flash the device (on the pc, of course).
you couldn't start anything on your device anyway, because prior to that, you put the device into bootloader mode, which means it is not really running, it means it opens a soft-port to accept the rom, being transfered.
about the hard reset: you can also press the four buttons at once, to make sure, to access the menu, mentioned in the wiki. if you don't make it to press the 2 buttons in time, the device will boot, but not work properly, so you can give it a try again, no need to worry to miss the window.
if still there is something left, you didn't get, i can explain further. just re-post
Thanks Chef Tony, I did it! However, device is slow...
Thanks for the help.
Now, I have a question: I am not sure whether it is my device or it is just the normal.
I notice that the time it takes for the machine to react (for example, when opening an app, or more precisely simply clicking on an icon) is somewhat slow - let's say there is a delay of 2-3 seconds between clicking and untill the device reacts. Is that the way it should be (I am really a newbie to this things, so I do not have any prev experience)?
Another thing: I tried to install some Java games (which I guess were meant for smart phones) and installed succesfully, but trying to open them, they either stuck, or not working (showing a grey screen, and that's it). Is that means that they are not compatible with Blueangel with this win6.5 OS, or is the device too weak, or what?
Thanks for all the help!
actually, i gotta admit, i don't know about those 2 things. it's been a while since i first flashed a wm6 os, so i don't have a direct coparison between speeds, i know that the 21202 is the fastest rom i had on my device so far, which probably means, when i first upgraded i stepped on the brake, and now, from rom to rom, it's getting a little faster again. as it is not the native os it can never be as fast as in wm2003. still, i can hardly tell from here, whether your device's speed is ok.
you can try different things:
- if you use tcpmp for video playback and maybe have tested it before, run a benchmark and see how much speed your device actually has in rendering a video.
- you can use the chome and flip it a little and try that on how fluent it runs
- if it is just when starting programs, make sure you performed a hard reset after upgrading (reset+power+camera+record->YES, NO, NO->NO, YES, YES)
- you can also make sure that, if you have external programs installed, they are on the device instead of the sd card
- if some of them are on the sd card, defrag it using pocket mechanic or your pc's card reader
if nothing of that fits, either your device is rather slow and maybe you should try xcpuscalar to overclock it, or you are just not used to cooked roms' speed yet
about java: the java support the device has, comes from an addon program to be found in the extrom folder, called JBED....cab. since you apparently installed the extrom that came with the rom, the chef of the rom, xplode, picked the right version to run with. what you can do is:
- copy that cab file to the device again and re-install it
- try and download another version of the file somewhere
- whereever you got the java programs, look there about the compatibility, maybe get other versions
i know that is vague but i have not used java since wm2003, i don't even have jbed installed, everything that i can't get as a cab, as a real windows mobile program, i don't install in the first place. most java apps out there are games and i realized in wm2003 that they tend to work like they want. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. it is very strange, which i quit that topic. maybe someone here has mor experience when it comes to that.
P.S. if you want to check the speed again and have access to a camera, you can make a video of the device in action and post a link here. i will surely have a look and while speed might be subjective, then we know for sure.
P.S.2 i know, just having the device upgraded and the first few steps are done, the problems show up can be frustrating, but give it a chance, you'll love it
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for this long d completenexplanation, chef Tony. I'll try your advice and let you know.an
WM 6.5 Upgrade
Thanks Chef_Tony for your response.
And yep, I do have another question.
Firstly though, I have all the necessary files downloaded, including the memory resizer etc. Just waiting on a go.
The reason for my question of the SD Card is due to the following step in the upgrade section:
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6.(if removed earlier) Put back your SD Card before you do the setup. This way the installation from the SD will continue after you have done the setup
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I didn't, and still don't understand what this step does. What installation continues from the SD Card?
One more question, If I stuff it or am not happy with WM 6.5, to go back to WM2003se, do I only have to reflash using the wm2003se ROM? or are there other steps involved due to the changes made to the BA?
Thanks,
Giles.
before you start the actual upgrade, so, before you click maupgradeut_noid.exe you are supposed to take out the sd card, i really can't explain, how an sd card in the device would influence the upgrade process but more importantly is the above mentioned putting the card back in.
to explain that: if you ever hard resetted your device in wm2003 you will have realized that after you align the screen and set the clock there are still programs that install afterwards automatically. those programs and customizations, e.g. a wallpaper, a dialer skin, some other programs, are not part of the rom but are cabs, stored in the extrom. the extrom is the storage space that you resize and format in the first steps, meaning your future wm6.5 is lacking those extra programs. since wm6.5 is larger in installation size, programs like the internet explorer or office are taken out and stored in the new extrom. you probably downloaded an extrom.zip file. before coming to that mentioned step 6 of yours, you are supposed to extract that archive and put the folder called extrom on the sd card. and putting that in at that given moment, together with the hard reset, it causes the same effect as in wm2003, that after the first start with the align screen and set clock, there are programs installing. after that you can delete the folder from the sd card, as there are no cabs in that folder anymore anyway.
about your other question: your shipped rom probably consists of one single exe file. you can't re-flash using that file that easy. it is a self-extracting pack that you'd have to extract first and start the downgrade with the maupgradeut_noid again, because you'd get a country id error if you wouldn't, since you bypass the country id by upgrading and your device is WWE then.
another thing is the storage space, meaning you need to resize the storage to gain space for the extrom again. basicly you revert the steps you go to with the upgrade. detailed instructions can be found here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
but i think you wouldn't wanna go back to wm2003, it might be fast, but you hardly get any programs for it these days and with the great UI and finger friendlyness of wm6.5 you will be satisfied.
i hope that although my explanation was long (and not clearly thought through in before ) you got my point: sd card is for the extrom, for going back to wm2003, visit the link i posted.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Technical Question - still understanding
Ok Chef-Tony, I am understanding more and more, but still a little more to go before you earn your donation. (if you can get my learnin up to speed).
I understand what you have said so far.
I assume the merge process merges the ExtRom, Rom and storage (All ROM) together, albeit setting the Extrom space to 128 kb and the remaining 95MB to storage? Leaving Storage 95MB, Extrom 128kb and RAM 128MB.
And secondly, you mention downloading an Extrom.zip file with the extra progs needed. I haven't downloaded this file and can't see where it is downloaded from. I have downloaded the unlocker and the re-part files/apps and also the 21202.7z Rom upgrade. The instructions for the Extrom say to access it by doing an unhide and then an unlock but nothing to say copy any files to your SD card.
I have also checked the 21202.7z file contents but no extrom.zip contained. Can I assume that the necessary files are part of the ROM upgrade itself and no extra files need to be copied to SD Card prior to upgrade?
Come on now, stop laughing at me, just because half a milion others have already done this successfully doesn't make me stupid!
Almost there,
Giles.
about storage locations:
the blueangel as shipped comes with the following memory specs:
- Extrom 16 MB
- ROM 32 MB
- RAM 128 MB (devides itself dynamically into storage space and actual RAM, program memory)
- Storage 43 MB
the programs by default installed into the ram, your pim information was stored there, too. that is why whenever the device ran out of power for a longer time, everything was lost. it was like a hard reset.
you got that right there is 96MB of rom (rom, extrom and storage) which does not get lost in case you run out of electricity.
but the ram of 128MB was cleared, whenever that happened.
the new memory in wm6.5 is:
- (old) extrom 128KB (empty)
- ROM 32MB
- Storage: 60MB (old storage 43mb+extrom 16mb)
- RAM 128 MB (90mb show up in memory)
that seems like not much of a difference so far, but it is.
what took me long to understand is:
your RAM is now ONLY RAM, it is just used like the ram on a pc, it is completely just for working the programs and the UI, and NO storage space at all, that is why you don't have the bar to set the ratio between program and storage memory anymore.
and while in wm2003 the Storage is shown in explorer like a memory card, now you access the storage simply as \\blueangel\
this means, although the numbers are similar, e.g. when you run out of power or don't touch the device for a month, still all your data will be saved, that's because nothing is stored in ram anymore and that makes the hard reset more complicated, because you manually have to choose, that you actually want to format the storage, because the power+reset empty the ram, which was enough to format the old OS's storage, as it was battery-dependent.
in general that means, you have a little less storage space, because your ramdrive will be gone, but therefore the device is much faster and installing on the sd card is easier now (needs no extra program like cab installer, you can always pick the drive you want to install to.
to make that more visual, i post a screenshot below of my memory state at the moment.
for the second part, yes you are right, the extrom is an extra file, which needs to be extracted and then the folder extrom needs to be put on an sd card, which causes the before mentioned taking out the card and putting it back in for the first start.
to quote the thread, where you got the rom from ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482997 ):
"R6.1 Release (this does not mean that this is windows mobile 6.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rapidshare: R6.1 ROM | EXTROM
Megaupload: R6.1 ROM | EXTROM
Ziddu: R6.1 ROM | EXTROM
21202 Fixes - This cab should fix the ability to make audio recording of the call, also should fix the show of the G icon and the status for gprs connectivity"
there is an extra download link for the extrom.7z file
and finally, you have to devide between the 2 different extroms:
- in wm2003 there is an extrom stored in your device, that is the one that you resize to 128kb and practically eliminate
- in wm6.5 you put your extrom on the sd card for one time use.
that is exactly the point of resizing the original extrom. since you only need the extrom when you hard reset, which you probably don't do, when on the road, you don't need to waste those precious 16mb on your device for installation files, that are hardly ever used. plus, with the resizing and deleting of the original extrom, you make the device look for the extrom on the sd card.
but your question is fully justified, you see, your shipped rom is bigger than the cooked roms here, because it contains the actual rom, the extrom and a radio rom. that is called a baked rom, where everything is packed together and whatever state the device is in before you flash this, you definetely have the state you want afterwards.
many devices, like the HTC Universal for example are still flashed with the extrom and it is not as easy to customize it.
to customize the extrom:
you extrom folder will contain a file called cfg.txt, which will contain something like this:
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
SHOW:\Storage Card\EXTROM\Custom.bmp
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\ADC.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\A2DPFix.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\Extrom_version.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\GoogleMaps.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC Large Title Bar.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC_Task_Manager_2.1_34837.5.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC_Touch_Calculator_Skin.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC_WMP_Touch_Skin.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\Office_6.1.21202.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\PHM Regedit.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\PIE8_Flash3.1_21202.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\pocketrar.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\psShutXP.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\RDM_21202.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\sipchange.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\skybox.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\skybox.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\SMS Delivery Receipt Fix
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\WMWidgets.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\youtubeplay.cab
LOCK:Disabled
HIDE:Enabled
EXEC: \Windows\DelCDetect.exe
HIDE:Disabled
RST: Reset
as you can see, there are a few commands, that shouldn't interest you, it is the (un-)locking of the screen and keys there, the important thing is the list of cabs. it will match the list of cabs in the actual folder, but you can also change the contents of the folder to whatever you like, you just need to adjust this list of cabs, because that is the procedure, the extrom is installed by. you will see, that this list varys from the one in your extrom, as i customized mine already.
i re-flash my device pretty often to test new roms and when i know what extra programs i need, like google maps, tcpmp or youtubeplay, i simply put them in the folder and in this list, and they install automatically after the rom upgrade. also you'll see, that for example arcsoft mms, and adobe reader are removed from the list, as i never use them.
ok, this was a little more than what you asked for, but for fully understanding what that extrom is, and how to work with it, i thought this might all help you. i fully understand that you want to be sure to understand what you are doing first, before you actually do it and i appreciate that, many people here start off wrong and then post a question, when they screwed up their device
sorry this took me so long, but it is a heck lot of text i wrote there.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Excellent assistance on Upgarade
Chef_Tony, what can I say.
I should apologise, I saw the EXTROM link when I first downloaded the 21202 ROM but at the time I didn't understand what that was for and reading back through the instructions I didn't pick up on its importance. I am glad we had this discussion or I would have been asking questions and been wishing I never tried the upgrade. Now I feel more confident that I have what I need to do the upgrade successfully.
I did understand your ealier explanation of the prog install using the EXTROM process but your additional info in your last response has really given me a good understanding. cfg.txt file is bit like a batch file to some degree.
I really have appreciated your assistance in this and I hope that all goes well when I upgrade, which won't be for a week as I am travelling and need it for TomTom. So don't want any problems prior to going away.
Thanks,
Chef baby, I've done it
Chef Tony,
I know we had this coversation this time last year, but I have finally got a second BA (I suffer from Fear of Frying, needed a spare).
Anyway, upgraded BA to WM6.5 21202, Which works just fine, only marginally slower than WM2003. The only real difficulty I had, and needed to try a number of times until successful was the hard reset, Camera, record, power and reset. I don't know how many fingers you have but with the standard 4 + thumb, I found it pretty difficult. Succeeded more by luck than skill.
So, thanks for very clear instruction and understanding.
Now, I'm not lazy, but the amount of reading involved to locate relevant info on this site is significant so I thought I might ask a question:
What is the latest Rom? and is touchflo a part of the rom or can you download a cab with the application for the BA?
1 last question, is there a page here listing all cabs or just search and locate on RS or somewhere?
Ta,
i see, you've been away for quite some time. meanwhile, i wrote a detailed and stickied tutorial, also containing a full download collection of all the recent roms, radio roms and many add-on applications like different office versions, browsers, finger friendly keyboards... you'll find a link in my signature or as a sticky in the ba rom development section.
the latest rom is hard to tell, if you want touchflo 2d, one of sun_dream's roms in my thread has manila 1919.
pro:
+ newest blueangel manila version so far
+ looks very nice
con:
- a little slow
- in my test, wi-fi did not work with all encryptions
- the manila 1919 only works with this rom
d-two has one dedicated wm6.1+manila 1917 rom, where it is already integrated
pro:
+ saves a lot of space
+ fast
con:
- wm6.1 is not very finger friendly apart from manila itself
- the rom is made to be used with manila, once you decide you don't want to use it anymore, you might as well switch roms
- manila 1917 is not as nice looking as 1919 (IMO)
also, d-two has several other roms, like wm 6.5.5 build23529.
pro:
+ manila 1917 works with it
+ just one manila cab, easy to install
con:
- manila takes a lot of space, because it is an add-on app here.
the 23529 is the best rom so far, in my opinion. i'm using it myself.
someone once said, the BA hard reset is pretty easy, if you have 3 hands
i usually let my ba lie in my left hand using the index finger for the power button and the right hand for the stylus to press the reset pin, then quickly switch hands and press camera+record with the left thumb and index finger while holding the ba in the right hand. i guess, if i hadn't already gotten used to this procedure or if i was left handed, it would be easier.
in general, i think, after you've read your way through my thread, you will find your way around the "BA 2010"
if you have any questions left, just post back
with best regards
Chef_Tony
Thanks again,
Yes, a little while after I posted this I found your list of Roms and apps etc.
Funny thing was, I actually found this the other night and printed the first 3 pages to complete the upgrade. I just didn't read down far enough for everything else.
Also, due to response above from d-two, I also have a link to his Roms and guides.
Thanks again, not so afraid to do this now I have done it once, still the monkey act trying to get all 4 buttons pressed at the same time, well all I can say, it wasn't an Australian that come up with that idea.
selig97 said:
Yes, a little while after I posted this I found your list of Roms and apps etc.
Funny thing was, I actually found this the other night and printed the first 3 pages to complete the upgrade. I just didn't read down far enough for everything else.
Also, due to response above from d-two, I also have a link to his Roms and guides.
Thanks again, not so afraid to do this now I have done it once, still the monkey act trying to get all 4 buttons pressed at the same time, well all I can say, it wasn't an Australian that come up with that idea.
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That would have been Tuatara
Radio Upgrade issue now
Chef,
I have performed the next ROM upgrade to D-twos Build 23529 and still have the Bluetooth connection issue.
So, today I tried to upgrade the Radio from v1.12 to v1.13. The upgrade keeps failing. I start with bootloader mode, run maupgradeut_noid with the applicable radio nbf file in the same folder on PC. When maupgrade starts it shows the new radio rom version but then it doesn't do anything for about 5 minutes when it tells me that it failed. I have tried 3 times with no success.
Am I doing this upgrade right?
Your guide says to do the same for radio as normal rom.
Thanks,
you could try the newest radio version 1.15.00. that should work, i never got any other radio to work than the original t-mobile radio and the 1.15.00. you are right, radio roms are flashed just like any other rom.