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Voice Texting????????

has anyone found or heard of a cab for voice texting, i found this website but its for nokia phones http://www.softwaremarket.nokia.com/?action=productDetails&pID=3304&pmsid=254&lang=en
i think this app would be cool if ur driving, ifind it difficult to text when driving especially with the tilt. any cabs out there?

You want Palringo. It does just that. IM and Voice IM.

have u tried it on ur tilt?

From the makers of Dragon Naturally Speaking, http://www.nuance.com/voicecontrol/. Or try this Google search, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mobile+voice+to+text.

There was an application supplied with iMate JasJar's sold in the UAE by a company that came from Dubai.
Sorry but can't remember that far back what it was called (age ya know!)
It provided Extended SMS with colour/font changing, drawing and voice clip capabilities. It would only work if both parties had the SW installed.
Biggest drawback (and why its no longer available I think) is that the multiple SMS's required to carry voice data were more expensive than dialling someone's voice mail!!! Funny really...

I've Googled but there doesn't appaers to be anything suitable around at the moment.

i tried google...but that app for nokia phone looks like it works well any one kno if i can work on the tilt? and y does palringo ask for my mobile #?

You might try jott.com.

Does this work with AT&T Tilt 8925?

Should do!
It looks to me like a standard subscription service where you ring them and a little old lady types it in on her keyboard and sends it out as a text for you! (or is it the other way around?)

Not found an actual voice app but seen a nifty little SMS app that tags on nicely to the Kaiser called XMS from Imaginet.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=xms
Gives you full smileys and coloured handwriting but the flaw is the recipient also has to have it installed. Good job its 'Buy one get on free then!'
Ignore the 'up to CE2005' as it works perfectly.

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From the makers of Dragon Naturally Speaking, http://www.nuance.com/voicecontrol/
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Yeouch!!!!!! It's only licensed month-to-month, and not officially for this device even.
Richard

how do this app work?

rico002 said:
have u tried it on ur tilt?
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Palringo works great on my Tilt. I'm using it right now to talk to a guy with Voice IM. Have also done text (standard) IM.
www.palringo.com

how does it work, it said something about being online?

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how does it work, it said something about being online?
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Palring is a free program? I can use it free ?
I have to pay something when i use it?

Palringo is an Instant Messaging package similar to MSN Messenger but also has voice.
No text to speech.
So you just register and it uses a data connection (phone or WiFi) the data call is the only cost so far.

but only to other Perlingo contacts? you can't use it to voice text anyone else?

It does not do 'voice texts' as such.
It's an IM client in its own right that can chat between its own members or any members on other networks such as MSN, Yahoo, AIM, ICQ etc.
You can leave voice messages to other palringo users.
If you are wanting a package that sends voice over the standard SMS network then I think you will be out of luck as it would cost more in text messages to send the sound data than it would ringing.
Other alternative would be for someone to generate a Speach recognition package that writes your SMS and sends it out!
Why not send an MMS?? You can put voice clips on that!

yes voice to standard sms text message is what we (I) want. you're driving along and receive a text message. you want to just speak a short reply and send it rather than fiddling with the phone illegally to compose a message using the keyboard

SMS Instant Messengers?

I was wondering if anyone has a cab for an Instant Messenger that doesn't use the internet but uses SMS to send messages. Since the newer ROMS has a tendency to remove this from their packages, I thought I would ask.
I have unlimited messaging shared across the family plan but get charged heavily for using internet.
So any good SMS Instant Messengers?

Search + sms messenger = you finding it faster then waiting on a reply
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...q=sms+messenger&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Thanks but I already had done the search before and didn't find the cab that worked. There were a lot of threads asking for the same thing but came to the same end as this having little to no responses.
One person had posted a cab for the 8525 and it didn't work as when I sent messages over the installed cab, the responses wouldn't be picked up by the program but by SMS as a text.
However, I did find the cab for it as noted from the ATT forums.
In addition to this, I was wondering if there was another program outside of the one that is provided by ATT that could do the tasks but in such a way to out perform it.
Anyhow, for future reference should I or anyone need it in the future, here is the cab for it.

i noticed that SMS instant messengers tend to need a data connection in order to connect initially, then every message from there counts as an SMS.

Though thankfully, after a series of calls to ATT, I have gained a consensus that initialization isn't charged.

Live in the US? Want free phone calls?

You're in luck. Through a three step process, you can make VoIP calls to real, legit US numbers (not VoIP provider to provider, like Skype). It involves Google Voice, Gizmo5, and Fring.
Like many others, I thought Google Voice was going to be an app that would utilize VoIP. I was wrong and ended up spending $10 USD on GV Dialer (an app that utilizes Google Voice on my TyTN II).
Google Voice dials YOUR cellphone number when forwarding calls, and GV Dialer uses YOUR cellphone minutes whenever you make a call, thereby making any usefulness of Google Voice null.
That's where you're in luck. Recently Gizmo5 (a VoIP company) began utilizing Google Voice to make free calls anywhere in the US through their services, and with Fring you would be able to use your Google Voice account on YOUR TyTN II via VoIP!
First, get your invite here: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googlevoiceinvite/
After you have your invite, choose your Google number and go through all the settings to get your Google Voice account up and running.
Next, sign up for an account at: www.gizmoproject.com/ by going to "Member Sign in" and registering under the "Free Sign Up!" option.
Configuring Google Voice to Gizmo5 is the easiest part. Just simply go to the FIRST option as soon as you sign into Gizmo5 (you really can't miss it - it's the first page you log into after registering) and you will find "Google Voice Beta." Just simply enter your Google Voice/Gmail account information (they are reliable) and Viola! You have your SIP settings configured. Now all you need is Fring to start using your newly configured SIP settings.
Simply choose how you want to download Fring at: http://www.fring.com/download/ and then install it on your phone. After which you will start Fring up, then choose "SIP -> Gizmo5 -> Enter your Gizmo5 account information."
The go to the option of "Contacts" (I believe that's it, it might be "Call") and call anyone from your contacts list.
Downside is, currently WinMo cannot call anyone not in the contact list running Fring 3.34. While other platforms can, this support is not yet available for WinMo.
However, if you would like to use different SIP application on your phone (like me), just PM me and I'll help set you up, although Google Voice and Gizmo5 are still necessary.

hehe sounds nice, maybe works for int calls to usa no?, will try soon

if i use this thing would it mean i dont need a service provider anymore?

As long as you have WiFi, you won't need a service provider. I wouldn't suggest dropping your current provider, just cutting down on minutes if you really plan on utilizing this.

A couple programs to look into (they are shareware, unlike Fring) would be "Express Talk" and "AGEphone Mobile" if you don't mind spending some money (I don't see why you would if you're looking here to make free phone calls).
But at least you know some programs now.

Timed Calls?
OK, I tried this process of connecting to google voice through Gizmo with fring. The instructions were great and the call quality was better than I expected. However, in the middle of the call it said, "you have 20 seconds remaing" and then proceeded to shut down the call. So, am I right, that you only get to call for 3 minutes at a time for free? I am sure there is a package you can buy, but for free it looks like it is only 3 minutes at a time.

3 min max is true from what I see
It says on the Gizmo page when logging in that the calls are limited to 3 min. each so that is a real bummer. Google voice is cool though I might start using this. As well this could cut down on my minute usage and save me some money. The call seemed a little muffled on my end but the receiver said it sounds clear as a bell.
Fun little deal. I think it's cool and every little bit helps in cutting costs.

anyone know if this would work for calls made outside the US? going on a cruise and looking for a way to call home.

3 min calls are good if you have a voip with unlimited incoming you could call someone and have them call you back.1 question tho how many of those 3 min calls do you get? i got a number through ipkall and a sip through vokalot so i get unlimited incoming calls but no outgoing except 1800 numbers so that work to my advantage while my phones service is off.

VM notification for Fido users of HTC Dream/Magic

Hi all,
I made a small android program that displays the Voice Mail Indicator when you receive a Voice Mail (it waits for the +18 sms). This is a simple proof-of-concept app. When I have time, I'll improve it by adding proper notification (Sound, Led, Vibrating...).
I am providing it as is, it works well on my phone. Feel free to post questions, comments, suggestions...

Might not hurt for you to explain what a "VM" is.

I'm assuming Voicemail.
He said it's a proof-of-concept app, like a more complex 'Hello World!' app. So probably not very useful, but just a skill test.

Interesting, so an icon or led when somebody leaves a message...
Seems to me that with phones the way they are now, that messages should be recorded on the phone itself rather than by the provider. I certainly wouldn't want private information stored on somebody's unknown server where they can mess with at their leisure.
To the OP:
How about counting (x configurable) rings, playing an outgoing message, and capturing incoming message for, (configurable) seconds? Then everybody can tell their provider's to f-off and save the $6/month that they're dumping into the answering service.

I apologize for the confusion, I should have been clearer. Fido users will understand what this app is for, but I can understand why others don't.
The situation is simple. With Fido, whenever someone leaves us a new VM (VoiceMail), we get an SMS from fido, with the source address being +18. I personally find this annoying and would much rather have the "normal" behaviour of having a status icon alerting me that I have a new voicemail. That way, I can quickly know if I received a new VM or a new SMS. With Fido, you actually have to check the SMS to see if it's a normal SMS or if it is the +18 notification that Fido sends.
So that's what my app does. It monitors incoming SMS and when it detects an SMS form +18, it gives the user a notification that a new VM has arrived, with the proper icon.
I hope that explains it better!

FYI: The acronym "VM" typically is used for "Virtual Machine".

lbcoder said:
FYI: The acronym "VM" typically is used for "Virtual Machine".
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I've always seen voicemail referred to as VM, just like callerid is referred to as CID. Anyways, that's just a detail and I made the modification in the first post.

Is it possible to have working this app. on HTC One S?
I installed it, but can't find nowhere!

VadimI said:
Is it possible to have working this app. on HTC One S?
I installed it, but can't find nowhere!
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I don't know why you'd need it, every Android system since 1.0 can display Voicemail notifications. I believe some carriers, in the early days, didn't do this properly, which is why this app was created. Still, it shouldn't be needed today, your HTC One S should have this capability built-in and your carrier should be able to use it just fine.

Random question about contacts

Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?

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Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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without testing, it's either alphabetical or indexed, meaning it will display the first instance of the phone number it comes across. For me, if I don't have a personal line for an individual, i remove that number from their contact info.

I'm not sure what will happen if you have two contacts with the same number in People. I would guess that whichever comes first in the default sort will appear as the caller.
What I do is set up a contact with just the company name, and put the various contacts for that Co. in the notes field. Of course you won't know "who" is calling you from that company, but if they all have the same number, how is Android to know?

km8j said:
Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.

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As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.
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You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.

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You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.
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most of the companies i've worked for/with have had a phone system with one external, but multiple internal lines. when i sync my contacts with exchange, the internal number is synced, so i am able to dial those individuals directly. however, if they call me, i have no idea who it is.
the only exception i've had to this rule are small businesses where you call and ask if you can talk to "sally" or whatever (or they don't have extensions, or the extensions aren't externally facing, etc). in that case, i don't bother with individualized contacts. i'll have a contact that says, "State Farm (Betty)" or something similar, so I know who to ask for.

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Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared,
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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.

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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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This is definitely a valid use case. There has to be a way to set as a default phone number a specific contact, then you would add a generic contact for "home" or "Company XYZ".

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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.

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I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.
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That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)

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That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)
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to your point, i'd be interested in seeing how other devices are handling it. i don't think its a design flaw at all. phone numbers have "always" been individualized. your home phone goes to "one" caller ID description (whether you change it with the phone co or not) - it's always going to say "The Smiths" regardless of who is placing the phone call to whom.
if you add "The Smiths" phone number to Mr., Mrs., Sally and Jr., it's still "The Smiths" phone number.
Harry Smith could be calling you on your caller ID, but it's really Jr....
i don't know any way around this, personally, short of the suggestions listed above. There's no solution for what you're asking. What do you want, voice recognition? And I'm sorry if that comes off a little snarky, but I honestly can't think of a way to handle a grouping of contacts that use the same contact information. What it sounds like you're asking is a way to create a "The Smiths" phone book entry, and marking it as "show as incoming call" so you don't jump to conclusions of who is on the other line.

I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.

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I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.

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...It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.
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Because then we don't get calls when we are at home -- thus the desire to have google voice numbers sometimes forward to the home number.
This is actually WHY I don't use google voice. Because so long as it depends on my being the only user of any number I want it to farward to, it's basically broken for me.
Anyhow, I agree that this is entirely different from the problem that started the thread. I just live with the phone always showing my daughter when I place or recieve a call to my home. That's annoying, but not broken from a usability standpoint. (My preference would be for it to show the same person I looked up when I placed the call for outgoing calls, and my husband for incoming calls, since he calls me more than the others, and obviously, the phone has no way to know who is on the other end.) I just brought up the google voice thing to point out that Google doesn't seem to have put a lot of effort into usability when phone numbers are shared.

if you're using IP phone (using GV to make/receive calls), service has nothing to do with it. Just use your broadband connection.