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FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

SMS Inbox shows Contact Numbers instead of Names

Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott

for the second question, use kaiser-tweak ...
there's a option under [contacts] where you can disable sim-contacts.
the other question i can't help, sry
bye andré

OK Cheers Edi, Anybody for question number one? Surely this issue affects others?

Just to confirm I'm not a jinx, can somebody else who experiences this issu please post?

bump.......

When you store a contact after receiving an SMS, the SMS database is not updated with the contact info and so the Inbox will show with the number alone! But after storing it once, the next SMS will be named with the Contact. This is how it happens in Windows Mobile or the way it handles the messages. The updating is not done in all SMS after a contact is stored as it would slow down the device.
Regards,
Carty..

Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers

Experiencing The Same Problem
Try to include the country code and for sure you'll have the name appear. Problem will be, when that person is calling from the same country... Country code will be omited. So you wouldn't see the name of the person who's calling... and vise versa
Did you find any solution?
Thanks,
Angelo
Audio said:
Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
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Apologies
I'm sorry. I guess my problem is different...
Audio said:
Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers
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Wow this thread's a blast from the past
TBH I've not noticed the problem again, which could mean one of two things:
1) The problem has now gone after Flashing a WM6.1 ROM, or
2) I haven't had any "New" people send me a text.
Sorry I can't be of more help...

Hi,
I haven't had an issue with numbers showing on an SMS instead of names (as I store my numbers as +447976123456, but I did have a REALLY annoying issue with SMS delivery reports having the number instead of the name.
This would have been fine if I sent one text every now and then , but as a heavy texter it drove me nuts - never knowing whos message had been delivered.
Just in case anyone else is having trouble with this - try the attached file - it lets you change the format of the report you get when your SMS is delivered!
Cheers
Zippyioa

A couple of really strange issues - Please Help!

Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
-- I have tried sending paired, and not paired
-- I have verified that filesharing is on, and all of my bluetooth options are enabled
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
-- In some instances I dont even see the messages that were sent to me. When I tried making PIMBackup to restore the messages again it said they were already there. I have received some new SMS"s that I dont want to wipe out if I can avoid it but i've never seen this before and it makes no sense
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)

RickoT said:
Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)
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Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC

MACkjam said:
Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC
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Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)

RickoT said:
Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)
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I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.

MACkjam said:
I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.
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Yah I've been working on the BT issue since yesterday with no luck
I am using threaded SMS which is why its annoying me that the messages are not appearing in order...
I use WK task in tandem with QuickMenu... I love quick menu, but I still cant figure out how to fix the font sizes... its every context menu not just the tray apps... even my resco context menu is huge and i have to scroll it to do stuff its kind of irritating
Thanks for the suggestions tho, I hope someone has a solution for me, I really like this rom and dont want to change it

Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!

RickoT said:
Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!
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Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly

RickoT said:
Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly
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Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.
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Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404

RickoT said:
Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404
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Yup that only works 40% of the time for me.

cannot reply to unread sms!

Hi,
I had my diamond fixed with HTC since the device would not be able to connect to the network anymore. Since I have it back, I cannot reply to unread SMS anymore like I used to:
I get an SMS, and click on the messages-line in my today-screen (touchflo is off), or on the notifyer. It opens the SMS-thread and displays the new SMS with a light-blue background. If I want to answer by clicking into the text-field, the cursor wont appear and I cannot write. In order to reply to the SMS, I have to _ALWAYS_ first close the message app again, re-open it and then it works, after the unread mark is cleared and there is no blue background anymore behind my latest SMS... any idea what to do and how to get back to the old way where I was able to reply immediately?
thanks

any idea on this?

Did you find a solution to this problem?
I am dealing with the same issue and it is quite annoying!

Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM

sunflower33 said:
Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM
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I think I'm having the similar problem - see my post>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580167

Solution
Hey,
i had the same problem and by chance found a workaround.
When opening an unread SMS you have to:
FIRST: Open the keypad / keyboard
SECOND: Tab the text/reply field
This way the cursor should appear and you should be able to type your answer.
Hope, this helps.
Regards,
joker

[Q] Show date AND time for old SMS

Hi,
using Windows Mobile 6.1, SMS list shows the time for SMS reveived today but only date for older SMS.
1- Is there any way to SHOW the time for older SMS?
2- If there's no way to show it, is there at least a way to KNOW this time?!
It seems an incredible lack to miss an option to show SMS details including timestamp and also the EXACT used number (because some contacts may have many numbers and the SMS thread only shows the contact name!)
Pleas Help!
Thanks in advance.
BTW: I found at least three threads about this issue in xda-developers forums but none of them gives a solution!

Try copying the sms in question to sim...

When viewing your SMS, on top of the screen you have the name of the contact, just go up to see the date and time.
No clue for exact number instead of the contact's name.

aelanbari said:
Hi,
using Windows Mobile 6.1, SMS list shows the time for SMS reveived today but only date for older SMS.
1- Is there any way to SHOW the time for older SMS?
2- If there's no way to show it, is there at least a way to KNOW this time?!
It seems an incredible lack to miss an option to show SMS details including timestamp and also the EXACT used number (because some contacts may have many numbers and the SMS thread only shows the contact name!)
Pleas Help!
Thanks in advance.
BTW: I found at least three threads about this issue in xda-developers forums but none of them gives a solution!
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you can try this to fix your problems.....

Thanks for the answer, but this patch couldn't be installed on my device because of compatibility issue??

aelanbari said:
Thanks for the answer, but this patch couldn't be installed on my device because of compatibility issue??
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I think you need a new certificate and sdkcerts to fix compatibility issue !!!