There are two small buttons (each marked with a small horizontal line) on the keyboard. The left is over the letters R and T. It is assigned to the "Send" button for email. The trouble is that it is very easy to hit by accident when typing R or T, and then the email flies off prematurely! The right one is assigned to the Menu and if you hit it by accident, it is easy to correct (just hit the OK button). Is there a way of remapping these two buttons? Except for this issue, the email with Kaiser is perfect. Does the AT&T Tilt have the same problem?
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
Anyone else got a solution to this problem, I'm fed up with sending half-finished e-mails!
I haven't played with AE Button Plus, but if you can assign "No Action" to a button (which some of the add-ons let you do) and do that for the messaging app specifically, then that would be a solution to the problem of large fingers/thumbs. The you could remap one of the FN keys you never use to the context menu or send...
TexasPenguin said:
Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
dscline said:
As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys - AE ButtonPlus specifically says this in it's FAQ. Remapping the "send" key is application-specific - it only becomes the Send key when you launch Outlook. So how did you manage to re-map this key?
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys...
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The distinction is between remapping the softkey, or remapping the hardkey that correlates to the softkey. What the remappers can't do is change the function of the softkey... if, for example, Outlook is coded to make the left softkey the send key, you can't change that. That's programmed in to Outlook. But what you CAN change is whether or not the hard button that corresponds to the left softkey is recognized as the left softkey. For example, I've remapped the single press of the hard keys that correspond to the L & R softkeys to copy and paste, respectively. If I open Outlook, the soft softkey (the button on the touchscreen) is still going to be send. But my hard button is no longer mapped to be a softkey, it's mapped to be copy.
I used all the programs from the thread that you pointed out, including the cab file that was mentioned. This allowed me to change the left front soft key but does not affect the assignment of the left keyboard soft key as "Reply" when in email mode and with the keyboard slided out. Is there a way to change the left soft key assignment only for the email (eliminate the reply option) or just inactivate the left soft key altogether? I have installed the SoftKey applet form your thread in my Settings.
I sent my reply to one of the earlier messages wihout having read all the answers that came after it....I was out of the office for a couple of hours..my apologies. I will find the AE button plus and give it a try, but is there any registry solution? they usually work the best.
I downloaded and used the AE Button Plus, and it worked! I set it to double press and that did the trick. The program is very good by the way, the only one that allows multiple pressing options, etc.Many thanks!
I have benefited from this thread!
Thanks everybody.
Adequate description on the issue provided, and adequate solutions and then a follow up post.
A really appealing solution would be to isolate the keyboard softkeys from the front ones. I tried the double press method but it turned out to be incredibly annoying and I'm not sure that constant annoyance is outweighed by an accidental softkey hit on the keyboard. What I'd like to do is disable the keyboard softkeys while leaving the front ones completely intact on a single press.
I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Thank you, AE Button Plus worked great. I just deactivated the "Left Softkey" and now I don't have to take care of that damned button anymore.
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I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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I've been using touchscreen pocket pc's for a while and no such instinct has kicked in.
so no one has an answer besides installing that AE button plus prog on the phone?
try removing the actual key. i wouldn't try it but it may work.
I'm really glad I found this thread, I keep sending half written and blank sms messages because of the left soft and keep doing weird things because of the right one. It's gonna cost me a fortune in text messages so I'm gonna go try that prog mentioned.
It would be better for a solution more specific to the application but this is certainly better than nothing!
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
firstbuddha said:
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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I think we have a WINNER SOLUTION
I am currently using Dutty's newest rom. For the PTT button I am able to define what happens when I hold the button.
I would like to add the ability to close the program when I hold the OK button (button 4). Is there a good way to add the (hold) option in the button settings for all buttons?
Thanks,
-Dan
For ALL buttons? Even the camera? Then what? How will you take pictures?
Have you searched? Someone wrote a program to do this, I read it yesterday. Try searching. I know you are new, but the search button will be yoru friend.
Well, I guess not all buttons. I just would like the option to configure two things for each button.
Through my search I found AE button. I tried that, but was unsuccessful to get it to work properly. I am attempting to remap the side OK button. Remapping the "OK" button only applies to the front OK button.
I think more of my issue is that I am trying to remap the side button, is that possible? I imagine many people would love to be able to close programs using this button.
I hate to be so wrong, so quickly.
My mistake, AE button is exactly what I was looking for it. I was remapping the wrong button. Although it isn't easy to use, I recommend it to all.
I would prefer a reg-tweek to add the option to the buttons dialog, but this will do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
This is the simplest and non 3rd party way to remap your buttons for long press. No need to install a program.
I have searched the forums long and wide for it and I cannot find it. Is it simly cooked into roms as an oem package or is there an actual cab we can install for those that are using prebuilt roms?
look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356192
read the first post. I think you will have to create the Long_End.lnk and assigned it to EndKey.exe
this may also be of interest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
i'm pretty sure you didn't try the advanced google search. Please use that next time. Searching endkey cab on there gave me a bunch of searches on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533
Here you go...
long press delay
is there a way to change the durations of long press?
I think it takes too long for along press end key and long press power keys to work.
I can't seem to find the registry entry where to change.
Any help is appreciated.
thanks
K
thomassster said:
i'm pretty sure you didn't try the advanced google search. Please use that next time. Searching endkey cab on there gave me a bunch of searches on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533
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I actually think he wants "long press power key". That is the one that is cooked into numerous roms. If you search for long press end key, or HTC end key, you will find plenty of threads. Long press power key is a different story.
Edit: Ok I think I was wrong. Long press power key is by Schaps. He wants the long press end key mapped to the red end call button. If you install it normally, which is what you get 10000 threads on if you search, it installs it to the right soft key.
marm0lade said:
I actually think he wants "long press power key". That is the one that is cooked into numerous roms. If you search for long press end key, or HTC end key, you will find plenty of threads. Long press power key is a different story.
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All you have to do for any of the long or short keys is change the .lnk shorcut name to Long_Power.lnk or Short_Power.lnk or Long_Send.lnk or Short_Send.lnk or Long_End.lnk or Short_End.lnk, etc. etc. etc.
If you rename or create a shortcut name as above & point it to the program you want to run & then place it in the \Windows directory it will work.
You don't need a cab, or any configuration tool.
I know something much better:
AE Button Plus http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php, you can give any button a long press function of even a double/triple click function.
You can use it for free.
I use the Internet buttons double click for toggling bluetooth, the Email buttons double click for toggling WiFi, the left softkeys press+hold for devicelock and the enter keys press+hold for AltTab.
You know you can do all of that without adding a few more mb's to your system & another startup app. AE Button works don't get me wrong, but it's not for me since I can accomplish everything it does already from the registry. (The keyboard driver contains all kinds of neat shortcuts you can use, you only have to disassemble it to see). It's great for a novice though.
There is another easy way to configure this. (No need to install HTC End Key)
Install Schaps Advanced Config.
Then go to Menu, Key Mapping and choose what you want for Long Press Send Key, End Key and Power Key.
johanromijn said:
There is another easy way to configure this. (No need to install HTC End Key)
Install Schaps Advanced Config.
Then go to Menu, Key Mapping and choose what you want for Long Press Send Key, End Key and Power Key.
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I did this but everything except the first two (left and right softbuttons) are grayed out - I can't change what's there. What am I doing wrong?
Mike
same here..any solutions?
johanromijn said:
There is another easy way to configure this. (No need to install HTC End Key)
Install Schaps Advanced Config.
Then go to Menu, Key Mapping and choose what you want for Long Press Send Key, End Key and Power Key.
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Wow - I've been using Advanced Config for ages (consider it essential) but had no idea it handled key mapping. Good to know.
I just tried it on my problem though and it's a no-go. My problem is that HTC End Key is cooked into the ROM I'm using and neither remapping through Advanced Config nor manually adding a shortcut (in this case ArkSwitch.lnk renamed as Long_End.lnk) works - the stupid HTC End Key programme just pops its ugly head up instead offering me a handful of useless options I can't change.
Any ideas? I'm using a 6.5.x ROM so HTC Task Manager doesn't work and ArkSwitch doesn't always open when clicking the title bar, due to the notification drop down, and I need quick access to a task manager.
Btw I use my phone's GPS for work a lot (in landscape mode) so Long_Send is already mapped to Rotate Screen.
Can anybody help?