Ok I just upgraded to the wing from the MDA and am looking to make the jump to wim6.1. I am "not" a newb to flashing, my MDA was running 6.1. I want to flash the wing using WM6.1 Slim Edition v2.2 link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367375
My questions are:
1. Will flashing change my camera or will it remain the same?
2. Is there a cab for sliding sound? I would like to reinstall it after the flash.
I don't know the implications of trying to flash an MDA rom onto a WING...
I've never personally tried this type of flash, but to my understanding, you shouldn't cross flash roms...
What I'm basically looking for is a clean wm6.1, with little preloaded apps and this particular rom was just what I was looking for. It ran great on my MDA and I was hoping to use it on the wing.
Me Too!
I'm also trying to find a clean pure wm6.1 rom for my wing. I've looked everywhere, and all I can find is modified roms with added stuff. I'm just trying to find a rom that has only the core original apps in it that come with wm6.1. I settled for an "orginal" rom from HTC for the herald that was newer than the one in my stock Wing, and that got me to wm6.1, but even that seems like it has extra stuff in it. Does anyone know what the cleanest, purest rom that you can get that will run quickly and doesn't have any mods, tweaks, extra apps, etc in it? I'd really apprecaite it because I have been searching forum after forum to try to find one.
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I'm also trying to find a clean pure wm6.1 rom for my wing. I've looked everywhere, and all I can find is modified roms with added stuff. I'm just trying to find a rom that has only the core original apps in it that come with wm6.1. I settled for an "orginal" rom from HTC for the herald that was newer than the one in my stock Wing, and that got me to wm6.1, but even that seems like it has extra stuff in it. Does anyone know what the cleanest, purest rom that you can get that will run quickly and doesn't have any mods, tweaks, extra apps, etc in it? I'd really apprecaite it because I have been searching forum after forum to try to find one.
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ICP-Touch Lite.
vgpclife said:
I'm also trying to find a clean pure wm6.1 rom for my wing. I've looked everywhere, and all I can find is modified roms with added stuff. I'm just trying to find a rom that has only the core original apps in it that come with wm6.1. I settled for an "orginal" rom from HTC for the herald that was newer than the one in my stock Wing, and that got me to wm6.1, but even that seems like it has extra stuff in it. Does anyone know what the cleanest, purest rom that you can get that will run quickly and doesn't have any mods, tweaks, extra apps, etc in it? I'd really apprecaite it because I have been searching forum after forum to try to find one.
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Check out Open Touch 4.0 Micro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377939
Hey,
just wondering if it is possible to use a normal stock rom from Topaz on the Touch HD?
Well, the background is, that I only want to use the new TF3D. I do not need all that stuff provided in the Roms available here and I'd also prefer the original design.
And, in addition to that, I would like to be accessible to the normal start menu, which, in most of the roms, is not.
Hope you can help me!?
THANKS!
lamajstro said:
Hey,
just wondering if it is possible to use a normal stock rom from Topaz on the Touch HD?
Well, the background is, that I only want to use the new TF3D. I do not need all that stuff provided in the Roms available here and I'd also prefer the original design.
And, in addition to that, I would like to be accessible to the normal start menu, which, in most of the roms, is not.
Hope you can help me!?
THANKS!
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Dutty's new 2.8 rom is based on the new Topaz Manila in HTC's 1.56 roms. His roms are blazingly fast and really don't include much other than you would need. You should look at his thread in this forum and see how happy people are with his roms. Also, Dutty does not change the theme or anything at all. His TF3D themes are always stock. You can enable the normal start menu very easily in said rom too... if you need info as to how let me know! If you do decide to load it please please PLEASE read the wiki or the guide in my signature because loading these new roms is very different...
Anybody extracted all the cabs already?
Especially interested in the Manila version and all the AT&T add-ons.
Thx
wait. you actually want the att bloatware?
also, the tf3d stuff is only slightly optimized, if you're running any of the manilas out there that are updated recently, it should perform better.. especially if you actually use wm6.5
Yes, the bloatware incl. Manila to rewrite/update my Fuze setup guide.
I admit that I'm a little bit reluctant to flash my phoen back to the latest ATT since I kinda depend on it for the next two weeks and cannot run the risk to wreck it at this time.
i c... I can provide you the set up file, but I have no knowledge of how to extract it. If you are interested, send me a PM and i'll see if i can upload the link for you.
EDIT: the official update is actually really good. especially the radio. my gps fix is very very fast, and my battery life is great.. even with push..
I can download the EXE from HTC/AT&T myself but would need to install to copy all cab files under the Windows directory.
If anybody has all the cabs which reside after an install (better a de-böoated install) would be great.
The success with the GPS and good lock is simply related to the Radio bundled with the new ROM which is/was available at XDA for some time. Sure, for a branded ROM it was finally time to fix these issues.
yeah, i did mention that the radio was why the gps is so much better. I'm just a sucker for going around flashing new radios... It got to be so much of a hassle keeping track of them that I gave up..
anyways, sorry I can't help you there in terms of the cabs since I'm very uncomfortable with doing stuff like that since I'm paranoid about my phone numbers and notes tagging along..
but I can say with confidence that the new update is really good and you should not be worried about flashing the new rom at all. The only thing is that I see you are using energyrom so i understand that you don't want to flash back and forth.
Can you take a look in your Windows dir and name me the CAB files there?
Most common none is deleted after install so that list could be helpful already.
NRG ROM ... well ... it ROCKS.
I'm not such a fan of 6.5 yet thus running the older NRG 2.0 without ANY problems.
sure! that I CAN do.. here's the list (btw, my rom is unbloated so i might have all of the cabs..)
BlockBreakerDelux_105_signed.cab
DD2_GM_signed.CCAB
GetATTNavigator_NoTestAccount.CAB
GetMail_2008030_signed.CAB
HTCAP_Service_ATT.CAB
Java_Preloads_20090422_signed.CAB
JQ2_0-1-0_20080905_signed.CAB
MidnightPool3D_200801022_signed.cab
MobileBackup_1.0.1_signed.cab
MobiTV.3.0.4.68563_signed.CAB
mobivj.3.0.4.75845.CAB
Move_camera.cab
MSFT_SecurityPolicyWorkaround.cab
MsPacMan_20080910_signed.CAB
MusicID_1.3.25_signed.CAB
musicync_2_0_0_signed.CAB
PPC5.0 HTC COKE ATT.CAB
PT_BlackSCR.CAB
PT_Manila_REG.cab
removeHiddenProxy4CWS.cab
restoreHiddenProxy4CWS.cab
Sudoku_0.11.66_signed.CAB
WM6_PPC_HTC_Opera9_WWE.CAB
XMRadio.4.0.4.68563_signed.CAB
that's about all I see.. I might have some typos in the numbers but hopefully they should be all correct. Good luck and if you need anything else, just holler.
Cool mate! ... and this is from the latest AT&T ROM upgrade?
Would you mind to copy all the cabs to your PC and zip them in one humongous file? Check PM
i can do that provided that it isn't locked in by the OS. I'll do it later when I come back.
Thanks, check your PM (Private Messages).
Sorry to interrupt, but here you go:
http://rapidshare.com/files/249085596/CABs_from_New_AT_T_ROM.zip
Manila is not installed from CAB, so I created a CAB for it.
Thanks NATF.
Just one Q, what does then the PT_MANILA.CAB do?
Chefs like you never disturb!
tyguy said:
Thanks NATF.
Just one Q, what does then the PT_MANILA.CAB do?
Chefs like you never disturb!
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Actually, you don't need that CAB. It is installed during Initial Configuration, and it adds the registry entries that start TF3D on boot. However, I added the required entries to my TF3D CAB.
Hey NATF....what happened to the OzIM cab? I was curious about this thread because I wanted to know if there were a new version of the cab for the instant messaging package as well....or did you just leave it out because the version didn't change in the new ROM perhaps?
Well, Im attempting in cooking my first rom. I have successfully ported the 28205 SYS and XIP but I am having trouble finding the New Ext Packages and the Sense 2.5 files. Can someone please tell me where I can find the new sense and ext packages? would be greatly appreciated. 1 more thing with my current rom is that when I upgraded it to 28205 sys and xip the tf3d became unaligned. It is being pushed down therefore the top of it is showing some purple background and the bottom tabs are a little cut off. I think this may be a sideeffect of the start bar being at the bottom. Thanks
You need to learn how to search my friend. Here is the link for latest Leo pkg. Dont add any customization to Manila, and see if it works ok.
Thanks, I did try to search but didnt really know what to search for lol. K I wont add any customization yet.
I didnt add any customization to manila and I'm still getting the problem. I have tried hard and soft reset as well.
Need help
yeah, i do need help on how to search, because i cannot find a kitchen and/or instructions on how to get me started cooking ROM's. I really want to start, because it seems like it would make for a really fun hobby!
Can you possibly provide me a link for this???
titan, do you have windows live messenger? send me a message [email protected]
I can help you get started as I have learned A LOT in the last week =P
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yeah, i do need help on how to search, because i cannot find a kitchen and/or instructions on how to get me started cooking ROM's. I really want to start, because it seems like it would make for a really fun hobby!
Can you possibly provide me a link for this???
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Look at my signature...
Hello guys, i have question.
For example i can`t find a Explanations for new persons who wana cook a ROM.
I found some Kitchens but its not writen anything, and is very hard for peoples who are new in the cooking to understand anything.
For example.. some Short Thread and usefl explanation like.. You need to download a Kitchen then you need to find and download OEM, SYS etc etc the elements for cooking new ROM and then you begin start cooking.
Its so confused that i even can`t find the latest packages to use for the Blackstone.
So all the things are not so hard.. and if we have Thread with good exmplantation.. we can read it several times and to know what we doing exactly, not everybody is born like a cooker and i think that everyone who wana cook ROM`s in the future i mean NEW Cookers will be awesome we to have from where to read ALL IN ONE post.
If Some Cooker can make a STEP BY STEP Guide in one Thread this will be very usefull for all.
For example now i wana Cook a ROM but i don`t know How, because its full with Thread and how much you read them is more and more confused.
Thanks in advance
OK, will give some ideas how to start. I am a beginner, so here I will tell you, how I started.
Before you start cooking:
- download this kitchen, which already have all needed packages in(Windows Mobile [6.5.5][23529] Manila 2.5 and other stuff). If you want kitchen with no packages go in this thread and for different SYS packeges look at this thread
This kitchen is best choice for new cookers, because it contains explanation for each system package.
- Then, read this thread - it was really useful for me, at least in general terms.
- Also, in process of cooking you will want to change some registry, so, keep in ming, that you should look mainly at these two files, they are for general registry settings
user.hv & default.hv
I am using WinCE Registry Editor to open them.
Cooking in Process
1) Beginning
When you will open kitchen in the first time you will see something like this
Then you should choose all main options such as Device Model, SYS build and so on...(if you downloaded kitchen without packages, you should add them manually - look at the "Folders in the root of kitchen" part to find, where you should place all packages)
When you will finish it, go to System Packeges(core components in WM)
Also, you need to choose, which OEM and EXT packages you want in your ROM
If you want clean ROM, just uncheck EXT packages, which you don't need. But remember, unlike EXT many of the SYS and OEM packages are crucial and specific for each device.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
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Well, as I said, in order to remove any program from ROM(for example MP3 Trimmer), you shoul remove its package from kitchen(simply uncheck it)
2) Folders in the root of kitchen
This is how base folder of my kitchen looks like.
CABs folder were created by manually(Oprional - you don't need to create it if you don't want). I am using this folder for all cabs, which I will convert in EXT packages in the future.
Flash folder is "the folder where cooked ROMs will be saved when the build process is complete" and also it have all necessary file for flashing.
Projects folder is folder where all your projects will be saved.
Resources folder contain "files and tools necessary for the kitchen to work, don't touch it!"
Sources folder contains all SYS, Kernels, etc. This is main folder, where you can change everything related to WM and its programs.
So, there is Sources subfolders:
-> EXT - there you can create folders and put your ext packages
-> MSXIPKernel - always create folder named as version and inside it place all MSXIPKernel files
-> NK - native kernels, create there folder for your device (names in first post). Learn more about this folder in the kitchen tutorial.
-> OEM - Here create just as with NK your device-named folder and place in it OEM files
-> ROM - There also create device-named folder and place in it romhdr.bin, os.nb.payload and folder XIP with MSXIPKernelLtk and OEMXIPKernel without nk.exe!!
-> Stuff - just some stuff for devices, you can't do anything there, don't touch it
-> SYS - There create version-named directories. In them are supposed to be few more directories:
->-> All - There goes DPI and RES related stuff, but NO LANGS!
->-> Common - There place all nonDPI, nonRES, nonLANG related files, just main binaries etc
->-> <lang code> - here goes all langs, like 0405, 0409, 0C0A etc
This was partly copied from kitchen manual, so if you want, you can read more about structure of these folders in this manual.
3) Import CABs, OEM and SYS packages to EXT
One of the main part of cooking process is adding programs in the kitchen.
You can do it in two ways - using program tools or copying in the EXT folder whatever you want.
Here, I will explain easiest way of how to do it by using program tools.
First of all, go to "Convert"
then choose option, for example "From CAB to EXT", fill all blank spaces
and you will see, that your packages will be added in the ROM
That's all! Then, when you will finish, just press "Start cooking" and waiting for results
I hope it was clear enough. If you have any question - post it in this thread or PM, I will try to answer.
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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Wait, let me finish my post first. It take some time. Then I will answer on your questions.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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correction 21895 is latest
miniterror said:
correction 21895 is latest
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Is this what i need? : http://joojoobee666.ppckitchen.org/Kitchens/21895/
I download SYS_21895_192DPI_0409
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
LOL LOL LOL
Aliff this will be a GREAT TUT MAN I LOVE YOU.. if you do all the things like this after this THREAD is finished almost everyone will be able to cook a ROM
Thank you i will wait when you finish with the TUT and will Start READ step by step to don`t miss anything.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
Okay if I understand you right the SYS Package is that for the Build and if i want diferent Build i just need to change the SYS the OEM is the Base and i can use now this OEM that is inclused in the Kitchen or i can Update this too? For example i download now the latest I download
SYS_21895_192DPI_0409 --- I understand that 192DPI is for our Blackstones 0409 mean WWE
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
So i only need this components tocreate a new 21895 based rom and i can use the OEM that is on the Kitchen or i must change it too?
Testing method
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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Same question over here!
aliff thank you for this..... I've been looking for something like this for ages...
It answers a lot of my questions that I had and now I can begin with optimizing and cooking my own ROM...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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SJackal said:
Same question over here!
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Nothing like that exists that I am aware off. BTW you will have to make it really terrible to brick your device with a bad ROM.
Cooking means, altering stuff, cooking, flashing, f'ing up, alter some more stuff, cook, flash and so on.. There is no easier way to test unfortunally.
Yeah, thanks.
It's not probable that I'd cook my own ROM, but you never know...
This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
motorboy-johnny said:
This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
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There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied.. It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
EpiphanyNL said:
There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied..
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
EpiphanyNL said:
It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
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Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
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Oh no? It's sparkies kitchen thread and ofcourse it's ok to describe it, but I dont think this thread should be stickied, maybe linked to in sparkies thread. Since there are more then one types of kitchen
aliff said:
Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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Oh maybe that has to do with KWBR being away for some time
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
tsalta said:
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
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You can find the latest Manila here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms
The CFC application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
latest Up to Date apps can be found in sparkies thread, Tmob Leo 2.10 ext packages
Does anyone know if it's possible to cook using Linux via WINE? I'm thinking it should be as there is no actual activesync required.
Wouldn't mind 'trying' to put together a 6.1 ROM
Excellent tutorial stuff
Question time:
I made myself a 23544 rom and cooked it with no ext packages at all. It flashed and booted fine, so I added all of the Leo 2.10 packages - nothing else. Now it boots to a white screen. I'm guessing there are some incompatible packages for the HD2, or I'm missing some dependencies for the HD. Anybody know what these are?