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OZ messenger cab files needed, please.

ok, so i installed mda rom 2.17 and it works great. the only problem is i dont have oz messenger anymore. i know, i know, oz uses sms but thats cool with me because i have unlimited text so it doesnt matter to me. i do not however have a data plan because where i live and work all have free wifi access. its the places in between where im stuck without messenger that sux. if any one can offer any help please pm me or reply with a link or anything. thanks -tommy aim tmynox911

Re: OZ messenger cab files needed, please. - Here it is!
tommynox said:
ok, so i installed mda rom 2.17 and it works great. the only problem is i dont have oz messenger anymore. i know, i know, oz uses sms but thats cool with me because i have unlimited text so it doesnt matter to me. i do not however have a data plan because where i live and work all have free wifi access. its the places in between where im stuck without messenger that sux. if any one can offer any help please pm me or reply with a link or anything. thanks -tommy aim tmynox911
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I'm interested in this too -- and would appreciate learning the pros/cons because I know that some people really don't like Oz. However I also have unlimited messaging, so SMS charges aren't an issue at all for me if the functionality is there.
Anyway - I just found the Oz cab here. Just takes a bit of looking. Go to the FTP site here and into the Wizard\Extended_Roms sub dir:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Extended_Roms
Download the "TMo-US-Ext Rom.zip". Inside you'll find all the CAB files, including what appears to be the Oz install.
I downloaded this, and have the files -- just want to verify that all we need to do is drop the Cab into the MDA (Wizard) and run it to install. Anyone else try this yet?

thanks alot, jon. i did do some ALOT of searching on my own but i didnt really know where to look. i appreciate the help.
i just installed oz and it works like a charm. so thanks alot. -tommy

tommynox said:
thanks alot, jon. i did do some ALOT of searching on my own but i didnt really know where to look. i appreciate the help.
i just installed oz and it works like a charm. so thanks alot. -tommy
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tommy - great! I imagine that it doesn't use any "main storage" (working RAM) when it's not running, does it? As long as there's no downside in having it installed, other than using up space, I'm ready to try it. It would really be nice to have a full-fledged instant messaging client again on the phone. When Agile is ready, I'll probably go that way, but I'm not ready to deal with "alpha" level issues right now...

where can find the one with MSN?
Thanks

Well, this DOES use your SMS texts you know, not data. If you want one that uses data, goto palringo.com, its freeware, and supports AIM, YIM, MSN, ICQ, GT and many more.

Yes i know OZ uses SMS, I like it cuz I can still get my messages if i don't get reception.
I heard the new one has MSN but i can't find it.

jonazen said:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Extended_Roms
Download the "TMo-US-Ext Rom.zip". Inside you'll find all the CAB files, including what appears to be the Oz install.
I downloaded this, and have the files -- just want to verify that all we need to do is drop the Cab into the MDA (Wizard) and run it to install. Anyone else try this yet?
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how exactly do i install this? i downloaded it to my computer, i can hook my BB up to the computer via USB. it shows some folders. which do i drop the OZ messenger cab file into?
please help. ive been looking for this for months.
thanks

Windows Pocket MSN?

Just got myself a Kaiser about a week ago, and upgraded from an old O2 XDA. I've noticed on this model theres no MSN. Did Microsoft remove it? Or has T-Mobile given me a ****ty rom again?
Thanks in Advance.

I have a Kaiser from T-Mobile and I'd have Windows Live Messenger (msn)

I didn't have MSN on my Kaiser from T-Mobile when I got it back in December.

They were talking about closing the port MSN uses so people couldnt use it. Not sure if it ever happened but it would be odd for them to cause such a fuss about it, and then include it in their ROM. Still works fine though, and theres plenty of links to the cab kicking around on here.

idk if this is the right thing, i've got the cab on my comp. and can upload it if needed, but try this out first.
http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Home/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US

Sorry for the late reply. I've tried that link beofre posting here, it's basically a web based version of MSN, that involves loading webpages when switching between conversations/used for old mobile phones with limited internet. I was looking for the cab with the software if possible! Thanks in advance! =)

Axmainian said:
Sorry for the late reply. I've tried that link beofre posting here, it's basically a web based version of MSN, that involves loading webpages when switching between conversations/used for old mobile phones with limited internet. I was looking for the cab with the software if possible! Thanks in advance! =)
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seek and ye shall find
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...r+cab&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Split Mms Roms

Mods forgive me or move this if i put it in the wrong place
Why are all the kaiser roms with JOINED MMS
I hate the joined MMS/SMS
And no matter what i do I cant get them to seperate
Is there a specific path to take with kaiser roms
on my hermes i could just install a cab i have for SPLIT MMS
it does nothing on my kaiser
**Someone HELP Please**
i have been all through the boards searching for how to fix
but only thing i fund was that Dutty's old rom had split mms

OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?

tramane said:
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
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Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.

tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.

otherreligion said:
tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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read the post above you, it does work, though personally i like them combined.

scotchua said:
Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
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No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE

tramane said:
No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.

scotchua said:
Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?

tramane said:
Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
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Well I'd really assume it's just because everyone is porting stuff from the diamond/xperia/omnia/raphael and all those are only wm6.1.
Also nobody wants to cook something old when there's something new. Plus they did add some enhancements related to screen rotation...mostly it's just the new and shiny thing...i never used wm6.0 much so i don't know.

ATT/HTC Pure - Questions (newbie)

Hi!
I am new to this forum but not new to HTC phones.
I just got a new HTC TD2 from ATT as the ATT Pure.
Great phone! and as of this Morning the MS Application store is working great.
questions I am sure many of us will have so might need a sticky
1. Bloatware - how do you get ride all the silly ATT apps/stuff?
2. if I load a new ROM from this sight will it be equal to or better then the RTM of 6.5? basically I don't want to loose the underlying features I just want generic + Radios + store (3G/4G)
3. if I load a ROM from here can I every go back to the factory ROM?
4. How do I: App-unlock, Phone-Unlock (if any) (not SIM unlock)?
5. Donation link - were is that!?
thanks in advance!

aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.

flyboy009 said:
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
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Thanks FlyBoy,
So you have a Pure did you reload it?

Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.

flyboy009 said:
Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1

aethicus said:
Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.

flyboy009 said:
Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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GTK! when you flashwith another ROM can you still go back to the factory ROM using a master reset? One would thing you are replacing the ROM in Flash and not the actual "ROM"

When you flash a rom you can't go back to stock unless you have the stock rom on a cd from your profider, read de faq's dude

Unless you know how to dump and recompile your stock rom you can't reflash it unless someone on here shares the pure rom which I think they have. Check out the ROM develpment section for Topaz.
I think you will flashing soon because Manila 2.5 kicks ass and the pure don't got it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567663

Excuse my ignorance here, but what is Manila?

Manila is Touchflo 3D. The HTC UI that sits on top of winmo

Question:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!

ottoman96 said:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
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ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2

rifter said:
ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
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Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?

ottoman96 said:
Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
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You are correct

The Pure and Diamond 2 / Topaz are the same thing. Different casing and slightly different chipset, but otherwise the same phone.

Playing With Pure
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK

BereanPK said:
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
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im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages

ZILLA said:
im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
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That was my first guess too. Check and see if push internet is off. I don't remember how to get there since I'm using 6.5.1 and Leo Manila but it should be easy.

OK... tried this, and WOW! The wonders of what you discover about your new device when you ask! (after searching, of course)....
I skimmed over the "Push Internet" feature in Manila settings somewhere, but didn't give it much of a thought, since at the time I didn't know what it was - hey, my Tilt didn't have Push-Internet. But seeing how freaking SLOW everything, including SPB Mobile Shell (which I somehow prefer over Manila - I know, it's sacrilege!) was running, I took the advice here about Push Internet, searched on how to disable it, found this link to an article on PocketNow.com which links to a file created by one of XDA-Developers' own, and voila! Instant gratification... and an over 10MB Program memory availability jump.
Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction! Cheers!
-BereanPK

using AT&T links on flashed tilt?

ive searched, and searched and searched, but cant find an answer...
ive got a tilt using a custom rom, and i have an x-tra tilt currently runing the stock rom.
what i would like to know is if its possible to use the CV (Cingular Video) link on the custom rom or the media.net link to check account status and stuff
i can switch the sim card between the units and the CV and medianet work fine on the stock rom, but if i manually type in the url's into the flashed tilt, the links dont work.
i cant imagine im the only one that ever tried to do this, but im at a loss on how to make this work?
any ideas would be appreciated

50+ views and not one idea? com'on guys and gals....

That's because we have no idea what you're talking about.
Links? As in something you click on in Internet Explorer to get to another web page??
Or do you mean an application?

burtcom said:
That's because we have no idea what you're talking about.
Links? As in something you click on in Internet Explorer to get to another web page??
Or do you mean an application?
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100+ reads and this is the first i get? well its a start...silly me, i thought ANYONE that has used the AT&T Tilt for more then 5 minutes would of seen the cingular video and media net links...
allow me to clarify...
htc/att winmo 6.1 rom found on the HTC site, version 3.57.502.2, released 08/21/08
Cingular Video:
from the start menu, click on programs, and then click on the cingular video icon. that opens up internet explorer and the link (URL) is http://cingularvideo.cingular.com/ from the HTC/ATT rom the link takes me so i can watch a variety of videos online
MediaNet Home:
from the start menu, click on programs, and then click on the media net home icon. this opens up internet explorer and the link (URL) listed is http://device.home/ from this page i can check weather, phone bill stats and usage of other phones on the family plan.
both of these work on the factory rom, but i havent found a single custom rom where i can type in these links into a browser and they work...

johng75 said:
100+ reads and this is the first i get? well its a start...silly me, i thought ANYONE that has used the AT&T Tilt for more then 5 minutes would of seen the cingular video and media net links...
allow me to clarify...
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There is a good way to get continued help, whine about no one helping you and then be obnoxious to the first person that tries. I have had a Tilt for 2 years and had no idea what you were talking about. Mostly because ANYONE who has used the AT$T Tilt got rid of all the AT$T " crapware " after about 4 minutes.
The fact that you cannot open it using other roms and the fact that you cannot open it on your PC should tell you that they are proprietary links that are interdependent on other bloatware installed with your AT$T rom.
Unfortunately if you want your bloatware, you will probably have to use a crappy AT$T rom.

yeah sounds like device.home would be something that is installed on the actual phone, so reload the att rom and start digging.
Thank you come again.

johng75 said:
ive searched, and searched and searched, but cant find an answer...
ive got a tilt using a custom rom, and i have an x-tra tilt currently runing the stock rom.
what i would like to know is if its possible to use the CV (Cingular Video) link on the custom rom or the media.net link to check account status and stuff
i can switch the sim card between the units and the CV and medianet work fine on the stock rom, but if i manually type in the url's into the flashed tilt, the links dont work.
i cant imagine im the only one that ever tried to do this, but im at a loss on how to make this work?
any ideas would be appreciated
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Cingular video and Media.net are provided by AT&T are propriatary to AT&T and only work from an AT&T stock rom, and since they both suck; none of the cooks here are going to put it thier roms. The only way to get them is to use the stock rom.
Insted of Media.net use internet explorer and insted of CV use Youtube or Hulu. They work a lot better

Hulu works on the Tilt?

Hulu works by way of skyfire. youtube works via lots of ways now, but I prefer kinoma play - buy it, it's worth it.
As to your original post, I know what you mean. I liked cv video too. I read something about being thru a proxy or whatnot and you had to edit some settings. But the other posters are right, it is att and not really worth the hassle of cooking it or making a cab for it.
Also go get Opera as your browser (if you haven't already) - load a testing version and work with the display options to get just what you want.
These will make your tilt much more usable.