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Camera quality comments

Ok,thats for those members in the brotherhood whn hav played with the tytn2 camera.How's the picture quality? Do you miss the camera flash on the hermes? Wat difference does it make after all, i mean, a 3mp autofocus should be alrite. But what if u need ur flash light at night and theres none.I hav a dilema,stick on the hermes with its wm6 and having flashlight or migrate to kaiser(i dont use gps)

luke1708 said:
Ok,thats for those members in the brotherhood whn hav played with the tytn2 camera.How's the picture quality? Do you miss the camera flash on the hermes? Wat difference does it make after all, i mean, a 3mp autofocus should be alrite. But what if u need ur flash light at night and theres none.I hav a dilema,stick on the hermes with its wm6 and having flashlight or migrate to kaiser(i dont use gps)
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I can't comment on the Kaiser's picture quality but when I owned a 8525, I never used the flash. The flash in 8525/Hermes, to me, was a joke. It did not really make any difference unless you were taking macro pictures at night. I'm glad that Tilt does not have it. One less thing to worry about. Just my opinion.

the only real use to the ''flash'' was the awesome flash-light.

imasri29 said:
the only real use to the ''flash'' was the awesome flash-light.
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agreed - I miss the flashlight.
the TyTN2 camera takes longer from button-push to snapshot than the TyTN - sometimes 2 seconds. Light sensitivity is better, but it's still a phone. Auto-focus seems to help but who can wait all that time?

yes the slow response time is kinda annoying. the pic quality is ok even without the flash, definitely not as good as my P1i sony ericsson.

The camera is better than the TyTN but no flash leads for very jumpy framerates in low light conditions. Nicest thing is the two-press camera button. Half press for focus and full press to take - much more like any other camera-phone. Quality still not up to that of a SE or a small digital camera though...
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Agreed - camera quality passable but not a patch on my K800i.

slow..
kilowong said:
yes the slow response time is kinda annoying. the pic quality is ok even without the flash, definitely not as good as my P1i sony ericsson.
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yeah..i agree with the slow response,i was getting ready to call htc,but i see its just not my phone..it really suck waiting for the pic.

The image quality is OK (good for 3MP phone camera).
But the camera operation is very slow, jumpy and blurry when there are lot of movement of the object or when you pan the phone. I hate this.
And yes, the lag is really, really annoying You will not be able to take picture of moving object!

Flip chart text legible after transfer to PC?
Can someone share an image of a "flip chart" with letters or numerals approximately the same height as a man's palm?
I'm trying to decide between the Tilt (3MP, no flash) and the BB Curve (2MP, with flash). Shooting flip charts in typical conference room light with no natural window light is the only camera utilization that I expect. The images will be captured on the device, then transferred to a PC for transcription -- with essentially infinite optical zoom capability available.
Best,

Camera speed with shutter sound disabled?
Does your Tilt/Tytn II camera speed increase with shutter sound disabled? I read that idea on another thread but haven't seen it confirmed here or elsewhere.

seems pretty good to me...
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I will put up others shortly... ;-)
-Daniel

Does anyone else notice a click when the camera has finished focusing?

its normal. my sony ericsson K790a with autofocus clicks after focusing as well.

Def miss the flashlight... but mainly because of using it as a flashlight to look for things
But the refresh late is appauling which is annoying
Having said that, if you are stable and get rid of any shaking, i think the camera is actually really good. I took some scenery pictures in the car while going to Kent and even though we were moving at 70mph or so, they came out without any blurryness or noise on the pictures.
If they get rid of the refresh rate in darker (and I dont mean even dusk type light but just not daylight) areas, the camera will be perfect (for a phone)

I just upgraded from my old nokia 6682 to the kaiser. Here's two shots of roughly the same thing.
Nokia 6682:
Kaiser:
This is low light night conditions. Nokia is a complete joke. Kaiser is infinitely better but still no comparison to ccd cameras.
It's real slow taking pictures. That's for sure. And the only way to get digital camera replacement shots is to be really really still while taking it, which is real hard when it takes multiple seconds to take the picture.
edit: sorry I'll take a different set of pictures tomorrow. Noticed something in the pictures

TyTN II choppy/laggy main camera but fast/quick 2ndary camera?

So I was playing around and I noticed that when using the main camera it was really choppy, but when I used the secondary camera it was fine, this is for both photos and videos. But out of fluke one time today the main camera had no lag...
So when recording video it's really choppy and photos if I move even the slightest it blurs =/ it's not quick refresh at all.
Using the secondary camera it seems to be very quick and recording videos is fast, not choppy at all.
Any solutions?

After some quick searches I Found this is a common problem...but doesn't answer my question how I got it to work perfect under the same conditions (I was inside the whole time same light conditions)
*shrugs*

The primary camera lags because it shifts into night mode when there is low light so as to get as much light into the lens. Trust me, try going outside when it's quite bright or something and the camera will be sooth as silk
Some people hate this feature though. Not sure if you can switch this "quirk" off so it only happens manually.

LeShin said:
The primary camera lags because it shifts into night mode when there is low light so as to get as much light into the lens. Trust me, try going outside when it's quite bright or something and the camera will be sooth as silk
Some people hate this feature though. Not sure if you can switch this "quirk" off so it only happens manually.
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That's the funny thing though...it was perfectly fine after this 'glitch' happened haha...in the same light conditions, I'm trying to make that happen all the time

Improve Preformance of Camera

Hi,
is there a way to improve the performance of the camera?
like improve the shuttle speed ? faster reaction time ?

You mean shutter speed? No, at the moment there is nothing you can do to speed it up. Especially when taking pictures where the light is low, the camera switches to night mode automatically, making the shutter speeds extremely slow. EXTREMELY ANNOYING, making the camera COMPLETELY USELESS for indoor shots. I think the way the IDIOTS at HTC were reasoning was that this would be a good alternative to the LED light the old TyTN had.
[sarcasm]This plus the disabled multimedia and 3D acceleration sure makes the TyTN II a device very well suited for business.[/sarcasm]

abubasim said:
You mean shutter speed? No, at the moment there is nothing you can do to speed it up. Especially when taking pictures where the light is low, the camera switches to night mode automatically, making the shutter speeds extremely slow. EXTREMELY ANNOYING, making the camera COMPLETELY USELESS for indoor shots. I think the way the IDIOTS at HTC were reasoning was that this would be a good alternative to the LED light the old TyTN had.
[sarcasm]This plus the disabled multimedia and 3D acceleration sure makes the TyTN II a device very well suited for business.[/sarcasm]
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I have faith that they'll release a software update

Yup, I mean shutter speed. it works greater in the day time only got problem in the night. was opening got a way to solve it

i agree, with a 3 mp camera with af and with a reaction time of a 19th century digital camera dosnt really do much

I don't think we'll have too much luck.
Like a normal camera the shutter needs to be open longer to capture a darker image. Sans a flash, I don't think too much progress will be made when it comes to night/dark images and capture speed.

I would be happy if they fixed the auto focus problem I show here, and allowed night mode to be switched on and off manually.

well we can just hope they come out with someting to solve the problems or make more improvement to it

HQ vs. HDR

Hi Guys,
If anyone can enlighten me under which condition we should use HDR and which condition HQ?
As far as I have found that in Low light should go for HQ as it reduces noise, and in good light condition HDR.
Still if anyone can bother to detail explain .
Thanks.

uttam.ace said:
Hi Guys,
If anyone can enlighten me under which condition we should use HDR and which condition HQ?
As far as I have found that in Low light should go for HQ as it reduces noise, and in good light condition HDR.
Still if anyone can bother to detail explain .
Thanks.
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Yeah you have it spot on another little tip is that holding down the shutter bursts takes pictures up to 20 very fast and then you select the best one you see. Great for catching that right moment.

HDR should be used generally in conditions when in your pic you have both under lighted and over lighted areas. Than the HDR is taking 3 (or more) pics with different exposures in order to capture the most from each areas (under and over lighted) and then combines them. At least this is the general photography theory for HDR.
I am also curious for what is optimized the HQ mode. From the name (HQ, High Quality) I would go for a better sharpness and focus which is obtained by sacrificing shot speed (this can be obtain through some processing, adjusting of the camera settings, etc), but this is only my assumption. I try to google it but nowhere is coming any official information, only guys again posting their assumptions and some time some 3-4 pics for comparison...

Huawei P20 Pro indoor photos are poor quality - please help?

Hi All,
I recently purchased my Huawei P20 Pro phone expecting the photos to be amazing. The main reason I bought the phone was because of reviews stating how great the camera was indoors, and I have 2 children that I want to photo inside.
Sadly I am noticing the following issues:
- Skin tone of people shot using both the front and back camera are automatically smoothed and beautified, sometimes to the extent that they can look like wax works/ heavily made-up. It looks unnatural. I heard this could be issue on the front camera but was not expecting it on the back camera. This issue remains even when I turn down the beautification setting to zero.
- Indoor photo quality on the front camera for photos and videos is not great. Photos are grainy and full of artefacts in addition to the issue mentioned above about beautification. In fact I have shot comparatives with my iPhone 7 and there is little difference in quality.
- The camera can have a several second delay between pressing the "take" button and then snapping the photo. There is a particularly long lag when pressing using 40 MP and RAW settings.
The outdoor photos are largely taking fine though I am still seeing beautification of faces.
I hope this is something I can fix with the settings or a camera software update. So far it seems to me that my issue relates to one of the following:
- The settings I am using are not optimal. Perhaps I need to turn off AI. Could this be the case?
- The software on the camera is outdated. How can I check and update this?
- The phone I have is faulty.
- I have drastically overestimated how good the quality of this phone is. I hope this is not the case!
Please help me fix the issue as I don't want to return the phone...

I don't claim to have used the camera a lot. However, I did find this video which covers all the camera functions in detail. I keep it in its own playlist so I can easily refer to it.
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I had the same problems with the Mate 10 Pro, no matter if shooting in Auto, Pro or Portrait. Horrible quality indoor, terrible skin tone. Pictures looked like oil paint

have you tried using the flash? photography is about light without light it will push up the iso and i wont use my rx100 past 1600-3200 so i would think these smartphones top out at what 400-800 maximum before they get grainy and noise reduction smears details etc

Oh I have seen so much worse when it comes to smoothening out details than P20 Pro. Galaxy S9 for example. P20 Pro gives me good details even in low light, best I've ever used.

im used to take photos indoors (mostly of my little nephews), i dont have problems with exposure or soft skin on the rear camera(i disabled the AI mode ) , on the other hand in the front facing camera you need to disable the beauty mode, disable it and set it to 0, Its normal to have a little delay in 40 MP RAW since well its a big 40MP picture. what firmware is on your device?