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How do I tell if my wizard is still CID unlocked?
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vijay555 said:
You spelt "stuipid" wrong.
Please change your post title to something useful, so people know how to help you.
Try clicking here for further moral support:
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Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
Vjay has a good point, you'll have a better chance of getting a response simply by taking the time to write a meaningful topic title.
A good example would be, oh I don't know "How do I tell if my wizard is still CID unlocked?"
You this way if I know how to answer your question then I would know that I can provide the answer from the forum index.
On the other hand I really don't know the answer to "I have a stupid question" and just might figure that the poster must not really want an answer since they could not be considerate enough as to provide a meaningful subject.
BTW, I do know how to find-out if a device is CID unlocked (and it is quite simple)..
sk7575: as a moderator, I'm expected to expound the philosophy and morality of the forum as well as I can, and to keep the forum in check as far as possible.
I use the “View Posts Since Last Visit” button to review all posts, very often, through the day. I try to answer every post I feel competent to impart useful information on. Your post title is unhelpful to me and every other member who might otherwise be able to help you. It doesn’t particularly bother me that you don’t wish to provide an unhelpful topic title, but if you take the address off your house, how do you expect people to find you?
if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more.
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I do have better things to do then delve into every unhelpful post. I do wish to get out more, but I'm stuck here responding to your "stuipid question".
Anyway, unfortunately I don't have a Wizard, so can't help you with CID locking etc, but I'm sure others could help you. Once again, I advise you to change the title of this thread.
I can do it for you if you're on citysearch.com.
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Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
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Dude. You do not like vijay when he is angry And of all the members here, vijay is not the one you want to mess with You ought to be new here.
Anyway, if you want to make sure your phone is CID unlocked, just unlock it again. No harm done unlocking it twice.
If you want to CID-lock your phone (e.g. you should have stated this clearly on your question, so I do not have to list out 2 different scenario), the software you used to unlock your phone will have instruction how to lock it back using the CID-lock backup file it generates.
If you wanted to CID-lock your phone because.. ..
Anyway, I can list out many scenario, better if you just let us know what and why you want it.
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PS thanks for updating the topic title sk7575. See, it got an answer in the end!
hanmin said:
sk7575 said:
Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
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Dude. You do not like vijay when he is angry And of all the members here, vijay is not the one you want to mess with You ought to be new here.
Anyway, if you want to make sure your phone is CID unlocked, just unlock it again. No harm done unlocking it twice.
If you want to CID-lock your phone (e.g. you should have stated this clearly on your question, so I do not have to list out 2 different scenario), the software you used to unlock your phone will have instruction how to lock it back using the CID-lock backup file it generates.
If you wanted to CID-lock your phone because.. ..
Anyway, I can list out many scenario, better if you just let us know what and why you want it.
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Thank you for your response, but I do believe I was pretty clear with my question. I simply want to know if there is any setting that can be checked to determine if it is unlocked or not, without having to unlock it again. If I wanted to know how to lock I would have asked "how do I CID lock it" .
To my knowlwdge you can't tell. Myself, I'd just unlock the phone, but that's me.
I have to agree with the Doctor, after posting your "stupid Question", you could have unlocked your phone at least 20 times with all programs available on this forum.
Then your "stupid question" would have been answered.
But here you are 24 hours later....................
still would be nice to see CID-lock-status without being forced to do an unlock..
Speaking only for myself, I've never cared whether I could tell if my device was locked or not. After making the decision that I was solely responsible for anything that I did to my PDA, most certainly voiding my warranty, and most likely not caused by nor endorsed by any present administration, I unlocked my CID and my SIM.
Now I am truly free indeed!
Any custom ROM updates published here i.e.: not official vendor updates, require that your phone is unlocked, period.
As I said, I speak only for myself, but after being here for a while I think I have the pulse of the contributors here regarding this. Unlock your phone. If you can't remember if you did, then unlock again. It's really no big deal.
thank you fellas, for the lesson on how to alienate people
I won't express any self-doubt or in this forum.
Janis, remember that most people are on the board because they need help, or want to help. sk7575 didn't do himself many favours by originally using an unhelpful post title. Fortunately he's corrected that - unfortunately, he hasn't quite found the answer he was looking for.
The guys and gals on the board can be *****y and obtuse, but at the same time, they can make exceptionally generous contributions of their time. I get a surprising number of posts from people saying that they are too frightened to post questions on the forum. This surprises me - everyone should read the forum rules (try clicking on my flaming V to find them), try searching the forum and wiki, but after that, any question goes as far as I'm concerned.
I hope that we don't alienate, and frankly, being geeks, we're probably all racked with self doubt and bad body odour. C'est la vie - it's the human condition.
Apologies to all offended!
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Janis, remember that most people are on the board because they need help, or want to help. sk7575 didn't do himself many favours by originally using an unhelpful post title. Fortunately he's corrected that - unfortunately, he hasn't quite found the answer he was looking for.
The guys and gals on the board can be *****y and obtuse, but at the same time, they can make exceptionally generous contributions of their time. I get a surprising number of posts from people saying that they are too frightened to post questions on the forum. This surprises me - everyone should read the forum rules (try clicking on my flaming V to find them), try searching the forum and wiki, but after that, any question goes as far as I'm concerned.
I hope that we don't alienate, and frankly, being geeks, we're probably all racked with self doubt and bad body odour. C'est la vie - it's the human condition.
Apologies to all offended!
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Thanks for your assistance Vijay. I got better responses once I fixed my topic.
Regarding people being afraid to post. I'm not surprised. This forum, like any other tech forum, is full of 75% type A personality people that are intolerant and *****y when they think people ask questions that are beneath them. Not everyone is great at troubleshooting, and not everyone wants to spend the time that some of us do researching problems. Sometimes, non-tech people may come here, and all they want is an answer, and a quick answer. there is nothing wrong with that. They probably see the bigger picture better than some of us.
It always baffled me why people post *****y responses in forums. take for example the people that responded to my posts saying "just unlock again". Yeah, thats an answer, but is it too much to ask for some utility that checks if you are unlocked? My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
My point?? If people dont like the question, just ignore it and move on. Even had I asked my original question in the new more detailed fashion I ended up asking it a day later, I still would've gotten the "just unlock it again" responses from people. To those people I again say, just ignore it if you are going to respond with a silly answer.
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My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
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That would have been a fabulous original post for this thread, especially if you included the errors your were getting. Any details help others, I'd be willing to bet you'er not the first member here to encounter those issues.
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sk7575 said:
My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
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That would have been a fabulous original post for this thread, especially if you included the errors your were getting. Any details help others, I'd be willing to bet you'er not the first member here to encounter those issues.
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You still dont get it then. You all didnt need to know those details, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS AN INDICATOR OF WHETHER THE BOOTLOADER WAS UNLOCKED.
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You still dont get it then. You all didnt need to know those details, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS AN INDICATOR OF WHETHER THE BOOTLOADER WAS UNLOCKED.
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I understand that completely but from the description you posted the problem wasn't even related to CID unlock status. Had you posted the actual issue chances are very good that within the first few responses someone would have pointed you in the right direction because they had experienced the same thing.
You see the problem you were trying to solve wasn't CID unlock but rather the errors you received while flashing the ROM. You thought it was related to CID unlock but in the end you were wrong. Had you stated the actual problem you were experiencing then you probably would have gotten to the solution a lot quicker.
That is the point I'm trying to make.
This is my first post.
I have owned a 8125 (wizard) for a year. I'm getting the tilt (399 from premier) soon. Before I do this I have a few questions if those who own can answer:
Is there a way to put the HTC Rom on the Tilt?
If so, How does it run?
Can you unlock the GPS? If so, does can you use Tom Tom? Can I use the GPS for free without using Telenav?
I really only care about the GPS, because my 8125 is pretty similar other than that.
Let me know please!
Wolfskin
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This is my first post.
I have owned a 8125 (wizard) for a year. I'm getting the tilt (399 from premier) soon. Before I do this I have a few questions if those who own can answer:
Is there a way to put the HTC Rom on the Tilt?
If so, How does it run?
Can you unlock the GPS? If so, does can you use Tom Tom? Can I use the GPS for free without using Telenav?
I really only care about the GPS, because my 8125 is pretty similar other than that.
Let me know please!
Wolfskin
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Just go to the Kaiser upgrading section to find the HardSPL unlocker and the Kaiser ROM to flash.
The GPS on the Tilt is already unlocked so you can use it with any software or data-based navigation program. . . no Telenav subscription needed.
Try reading the Kaiser forum before taking up space with questions that have already been asked about a million times...
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Try reading the Kaiser forum before taking up space with questions that have already been asked about a million times...
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Try being a bit kinder to the newbies. After purchasing a Kaiser I have been back on the boards for the first time in 2+ years and despite 5 straight days now (probably 20-25 full hours reading) this info was new to me.
What is also new to me is the elitist attitude of some members. This is a forum, and the last time I checked this meant it was a gathering place for people to share info. Some people will always be new and ask questios that others find pedantic. I see this pattern on every forum I have ever visited. If you can tell from the topic that it is something that has already been covered, don't read the post, but if you do go to the trouble to read it, AND make a comment, then at least make a helpful suggestion such as, "Try searching on XXX". This not only helps the OP, but others who happen to be "in the same moment" and would like more info too.
sorry but even as a new member I agree with austinsnyc...if the topic is already there, do a search on the forum first and look for maybe 5 minutes before you post redundant questions. This isnt about an elitest attitude, its about being considerate of everyone on the forum and not flooding it with crap that is already there.
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doug2873++
The lazy and/or ignorant need to be schooled. And that even includes me on occasion!
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doug2873++
The lazy and/or ignorant need to be schooled. And that even includes me on occasion!
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Yeah me too. But I usually do search.
It wasn't the suggestion to search that I found objectionable, it was the way is was said. It's just not a very nice way to welcome a new poster. I am sure we have all asked stupid questions from time to time. No need to be rude about it. That was the elitist part. If you have em, imagine of your kid's teacher said to your child on the first day of school. "That was a stupid question, stop wasting our time."
Sadly no one came to my defense. Still say I am making a bad call on the change in tone of the forum? Rhetorical question, not looking to start a flame war. My last word on this is to ask others to please be polite. Nuff said.
Unless someone is new to forums (and the internet) in general, they should know to search before asking something, but that doesn't mean older users need to be a jerk if they don't.
Also, sometimes information gets buried in large threads and even though you may use the search, it can be hard to sort through all of the results or a very large thread to pull together all of the information. Sometimes, it's really helpful if a knowledgeable user can paraphrase it all in one place.
Thank you newbie 2. Instead of searching through thread after thread i asked. Your answer on the unlocked gps part of the phone was all i needed !
In wolfs, defense....I've been pouring through the kaiser upgrading sections and just when I think it is safe to put the HTC rom upgrade in my tilt, I read posts like "when will they make this for the tilt?". I'm relatively sure that this upgrade works on the tilt, but am even more sure that I would never know what to do if it didn't...nor would I know what to do if I had to put the AT&T rom back on if I needed to get warranty work done - like I might, since mine absolutely will not beam files via bluetooth right now. I've put a bunch of tweaks on my tilt and love em...thank you everybody sooooo much! But currently am 'ascairt' to put the HTC rom on.
Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.
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WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.[/Q
First off i have spent several hours and many days searching and did you read what was given on your search or just find some stuff on it and called it good, if you have read my thread then you will see that everywhere i look it doesnt explain what i am wanting to know, just jumping around different things,
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Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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Nice.
Oh and BTW, I did see your video driver. It's off playing Doom on 32X.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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reading your thread is like walking into a brick wall with a hard on!!!
omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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Jesus. You are an arrogant one aren't you. I would think that if it didn't say you needed to do something extreme, like unlock, that you wouldn't. But I guess I think like that.
ALSO, if you wanted to know for sure. Respond in the Doom On Kaiser thread.
Get off your high horse and contribute to the community. That's why were are here. We are a development community, not a Tech Support Community. WE help out each other. I can't make ROMs. But I test them out and help other people that have questions. I also provide Mirrors. I'm not here to hold your hand. But if you are trying and stuck, then I will help.
You stated, "why dont[sic] you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated[sic] you get." That's the problem, most of us senior members, have read useless stuff because people refuse to search.
Your attitude when people tried to help you was appalling. Understand our side. We see the same thread a dozen times a day. We search and find the answer. Gets a little frustrating. But to be attacked for GIVING Answers, That is completely rude. In fact. IF you DO stick around. I will not help you unless you apologize to the people who tried to point you in the right direction. But I have a feeling you got want you wanted an won't be returning to our community. I for one will not be shedding a tear in your honor.
Please do not disturb the members of these forums with questions that can be answered by reading the wiki or stickies. Thread is closed. If you're wondering why, please read the forum rules, found in the sticky link in my sig.
Hi Guys
i need your help i just bought an HTC Diamond yesterday and i am dissapointed, the device has a number of issues 1 is that the touch flo is not smooth and there is about 3 to 5 secs lag time, second is that the battery life is crap. anyways i read on the net that an updated ROM can fix these issues, the current ROM VERSION i am using is 1.35.456.3 WWE, please let me know if there are newer ROM versions and where i can download them,p.s. will ROM upgrade actually fix the battery life issues as well as memory leak. I really hope that the touch pro doesn't have all these issues.
This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself
you can find all your answers in my signature link
to answer your question without the entire search first part:
1. yes there is a newer one
2. look in the diamond development rom section
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This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself
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Has it ever occured to you that one might be in a hurry to solve a big issue, if you can't help a new comer and direct them corrctly then u should keep your comments to your self. I mean we are humans and we all make mistakes but that doesn't mean you come out and bite people's heads off. Thats the problem with the world today instead of stopping and helping u choose to be agressive and blame them, anyways i am happy to say that other more thoughtful members of this forum helped me. Thanks..
Well, I don't really want to flame your posts but Rorydaredkign is right maybe not the right way to say it
The information you seek are just 2 clicks away from the button "new topic" and a little search might help find anything you need but obviously you did not take a bit of your time to browse the forum...
As a new comer, do not take anything for granted!
@original poster
If you can get 1.37 to load up and apply some of the settings in the Diamond Tweaks sticky you will find things a lot better.
I would stay away from tweak number two in that thread though as most people have found it renders their handset inoperable and have to hard reset. However, as you will have to hard-reset to upgrade anyway you might want to give it a go.
I agree with you about the aggression. I understand the power of search but when you're new, a string of posts telling you to use the search, when it would have been quicker to answer the question, is unnecessary - and not really community spirited.
Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory
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rorydaredkign said:
Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory
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And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.
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And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.
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Well for one, I know how to search
And the thing is, like I said, normally I would search myself, then post a link, but when there's an actual forum called Diamond ROM Development, I couldn't be ****ed.
And you say its posts like this which have made me senior, but you're wrong.
Granted, I tell people to search, and I should probably just say nothing, but before, people have told me off for describing in detail something which can be found by a 2 word search or in the wiki.
So don't just think I go round telling people they're noobs, I don't usually, But here I have.
Rory
Peace, people! This forum isn't the right place for this kind of discussions
ok guys since i started this i will make an attempt to end it,
"rorydaredkign"- i understand ur frustration and i am sure your senior member due to more positive reasons than knowing how to search, but it is wrong to bite people's heads of just because they do not know something even though it is two clicks or one click away, i mean take an example ur in a new place u have never been and when u ask for directions people bit ur head off and tell u why not get a map. You should put ur self in my shoes, i just purchased the diamond its expensive and its not working propoerly so i was freaking out and was trying to get help as quickly as possible, if i had time on my hand i would sit and search and go through the whole forum. There is no need to go around calling people names we are all mature here and name calling is something we all left back in junior school, by you going around the forum and calling people noobs just displays u as an unprofessional character, This forum is set up so that people everywhere can assist each other and share the knowledge, so please lets burry this hatchet and try our level best to maintain strong good community. Let us leave this issue behind us and move on with what is really important. Not that there is a need to applogise but i feel i should applogise for asking a question when i could have searched and found what i was looking for. Having said that i still enjoy this forum i think its fantastic and there is alot to learn from everyone here, thanks to everyone for their contribution.
i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
This has been discussed already. Please use the Search link up at the top right.
lol, and this is supposed to be a polite post? Come on, lighten up, if the same questions get asked for a thousand times, then i can imagine people sometimes like to point out the search feature of the site
trichau81 said:
i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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No my friend, what is rude is to ask other people to waste their time because you are too lazy to do a little bit of research for yourself.
If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
Please use the search function.
Its there for your service!
We are all here for each others service.
uniqueboy said:
If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
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Well said! I must say, as a new user (but a seasoned veteran of similar dev sites), I have been dismayed at how simple questions here from noobs like me, are frequently greeted with thinly veiled contempt and disgust.
I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
snigfargle said:
I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
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I'm sure you won't. Your thread will be most welcome.
However, I strongly feel that anybody should try and do some simple research before asking for help. I don't believe it's very polite (nor educational, for that matter) to simply write a post that essentially says: my time is too important to waste on trivial things like trying to find information, but since your time has no value to me, why don't you do that?
I often tried to find things when answering to others if the issue was not described in the forum. If, on the contrary, it has been discussed (and in many cases more than once), I believe that the Search button should be used.
It would be rude not to...
Actually I think it is pretty sad that most people have nothing better to do than to flame people in forums. If you see a question that is addressed somewhere else then either point the person in that direction or just don't answer. I have to agree that sometimes it is not that the person is using the search link but perhaps they are not searching correctly. This is a professional forum and we do not need unprofessional people in it so please play nice everyone.
A lot of the questions on here remind me of the 300ZX forum I used to go on... "I want to do a Twin Turbo swap, what do I need?" How many times do you think that question was answered? How many stickies do you think there were about that same question? Here's what the veterans are trying to make you do... Come into the forum, search for your answer first, then after you don't find it, ask. It prevents the forum from being cluttered and lets the people who really DO have unanswered questions to get answers more quickly. I'm not going to be mean or disrespectful about it, but please, if for nothing else, for the efficiency of helping each other, try to find the answer on your own before you ask a question.
It wouldn't be so bad if the Diamond forums were old with 100s of threads and the question being asked was last answered weeks ago. But the Diamond forums are relatively new and most of the questions being asked have already been asked on the current page or the page 2. You don't even need to use search to find the answer.
I've only been flashing for less than 2 weeks and so far have managed to find all the tools and guides I need by reading the posts on pages 1 and 2. I didn't need to go any deeper or use search.
So if anyone asks a question which has already been answered dozens of times then you should expect a few people to get annoyed. Afterall it takes less effort to read then for someone to type out an explanation again an again.
Also, a lot of questions are too vague, e.g. I can't flash the hardspl. Maybe if you spent a bit more effort saying what you have tried and exactly where the problem is then you might get more help.
uniqueboy said:
If you can help someone then help them, if you can't then don't. If you just don't want to help then you are just a user. The most repeated thing I have read in these forums is "use the search" if that is the only comment you can make then get lost! It is true in here that some who think they know something are just abrupt and rude to people who they think know less than themselves. Wisdom expresses itself in many ways, the least of which is "use the search".
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Agree 100%. Yeah I get a bit miffed reading the same basic questions, but then when you do use the search engine, it brings back 100's of threads at times, which a new comer to the ppc world might not fully understand.
I had my first ppc phone back with the Blue Angel, and so many guys have helped me along the way since then. It's only the minority who say "Use the search!!!". But having said that, I think this is the least friendly/most abusive ppc forum. I get the general feeling that a few guys in here are above their stations...
Just my 2 pence worth. Not "cents" as I'm British. If you don't know where Britain is, or its monetary system, then use the f**king sear......
snigfargle said:
Well said! I must say, as a new user (but a seasoned veteran of similar dev sites), I have been dismayed at how simple questions here from noobs like me, are frequently greeted with thinly veiled contempt and disgust.
I just made a prototype app for the Diamond that uses the G sensor, and would like to get some feedback from folks, but I'm reluctant to start a new thread on the topic in case I unintentionally incur the wrath of the the veterans here!
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Bro:
If you offer us any kind of app with those characteristics you will never incur in the wrath of the the veterans here!
1. new posts that contains or starts with:crappy, wtf (this is real special to me), what to buy, battery life, gps, what programs, who is better, iPhone, how to? (the answer in the manual), polls-bring the killer instinct in me.
2, new posts that contains or starts with:i can not, help, my diamond.., how to ?, where to find, i searched but...., confused-bring the mother Theresa buried deep in me.
3. new posts that contains or starts with:i developed, solved, news, new program, new game, how to (without question mark)-bring up the happy me together with "lets donate", let's be encouraging answer post.
this is not a graffiti wall. this is a place with rules (when you registered you accepted the rules) and don't start useless threads/posts is one of them.
respect the rules and by doing so you respect the place and it's inhabitants.
giving respect will bring you back respect.
interesting threads are pushed back in 2-nd and 3-thrd page by threads started just to chat. the forum is full with such posts started usually by a noobie that is soon joined but 5-8 other noobies that are happily chating about something that's only by far related with diamond. each posts, each answer is bumping the thread up.
since my diamond is today how i wished to be and i don't have to search (ooops, sorry for using dirty words) for answers or tweaks i found great pleasure in helping ppl that need help but only ppl that at least tried to solve, to search and help themselves first.
i dont know why people have to be so rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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first, watch yr language please!
second, i took the liberty to edit yr post. looks better and the message remain the same.
third, sending you to search is help because it means that the solution of yr problem is here somewhere buried between all the posts (too many useless, but who is to blame?). when looking for it you'll usually read posts that you''l remember later when trying to solve other problems. search is good for you and yr diamond.
keep the forum clean ppl!
KukurikU said:
... sending you to search is help because it means that the solution of yr problem is here somewhere buried between useless posts. when looking for it you'll usually read posts that you''l remember later when trying to solve other problems.
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Very good points there KukurikU.
If the Diamond forum wasn't so full of posts which should be in the General forum then it would be easier to find Diamond specific answers.
And, like you said, while searching for an answer to a problem I've read other posts along the way which taught me things I never knew.
trichau81 said:
i dont know why people have to be so f**** rude in here. "use the damn search and etc" all we asking for is for f**** help, i know we have to use the "SEARCH" but damn f***! if you don't feel like helping someone, just shut the f*** up and dont say anything or be rude about it.
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There is one thing i don't understand. This is you're first post so no one has send you to the search function. Maybe you have read a question from a poster with a certain history? Otherwise i don't get i why you register yourself to a forum and start a bad topic.
marco899 said:
There is one thing i don't understand. This is you're first post so no one has send you to the search function. Maybe you have read a question from a poster with a certain history? Otherwise i don't get i why you register yourself to a forum and start a bad topic.
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Hahahaha that's something I didn't notice... He's looking at other users being told to use search and sticking up for them? Lame.
Why did this discussion get started in the Diamond Forum in the first place. This is a general discussion and not related to the Diamond specifically and is yet itself another example of how specific forums get cluttered and why it can get difficult to find what you are looking for in a specific forum.
pedmond said:
No my friend, what is rude is to ask other people to waste their time because you are too lazy to do a little bit of research for yourself.
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Dont answer the Q then and your time wont be wasted! Sometimes its hard to find the answer with the search function and even if you find the thread it could be 50-something pages long...