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I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
It is possible to toggle between spb mobile 2 screens and touchflo 3d though.
Kill Manila.exe
Has anybody come up with an automated(one click) way of killing the Manila.exe process ?
Mortscript
Create a script with Mortscript to check for the presence of manila.exe.
If not present, start it.
If present, kill it.
Create a shortcut to the script in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Assign this shortcut to button 1.
Simon D said:
I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
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thought thats called SecondToday?
ToggleManila.mscr
I have the same problem, that I want to turn on TouchFlo 3D, but still want to keep my "Classic" Today Screen intact.
Although I tried SecondToday, however it cannot display the internal plugins such as Tasks, Calendar and Date
Thanks to wensing's suggestion, I created this simple script. If you want to run the script, please follow the instructions below.
a) The first thing you need to do is to disable the TouchFLO 3D from Today Panel Plugins, then activate your favourite Today Plugins (except TF3D)
b) Install MortScript
c) Put the "ToggleManila.mscr" in any folder you prefer.
d) Create a shortcut to this script, name it (eg. ToggleToday.lnk) and put the shortcut inside the folder "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
e) Go to Settings->Buttons, and simply assign "Button 1(Hold)" to point to the ToggleToday shortcut.
Of course you are free to experiment with other settings or assign it any other buttons.
Another thing to note is, because TF3D will "take over" the Home hardware button, I have no choice but to kill it, so that the classic Today Screen can be activated after TF3D is killed. However this also means the next time you activate TF3D, it will take some time to load. So please be patient and wait for the TF3D while it is loading.
Anyway, this is my first attempt at using MortScript, just a simple piece of work, but hope that I can bring some joy to my fellow Diamond users.
Hope that it works for you guys
Thanks Wensing
The mortscript suggestion works perfectly.
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
Uncheck TF3D
oldhouse said:
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
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Have u tried to uncheck TF3D from Settings->Today->Items before launching the mortscript?
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when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
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So far, I am using Settings->Buttons and I assign "ToggleManila" to Button1(Hold). By default this may have been assigned to other programs such as Voice Commander etc. Just replace it with "ToggleManila".
I am not familiar with other more advance programs that allow u to assign it to the other hard buttons, so I am sorry I can't advice u on that.
By the way, u might have to create a shortcut that points to the actual file where u place the ToggleManila.mscr, and then u put this shortcut (I simply name it ToggleManila.lnk) inside Windows->Start Menu->Programs before u can select "ToggleManila".
See if it works.
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
Davey101 said:
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
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i second this statement. tried it and works great for me on the touch pro
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
charly_mx said:
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
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I'm using Dutty's Diamond v1.8 (full) and used to have speed problems when launching applications, particularly after using the audio player.
TF3D is alright but it doesn't actually do anything that special. The weather screen is pretty but most of the other screens are useless, especially the horribly limited 'favourite contacts'. Now that I've got used to the standard windows today screen I prefer it.
I'm looking forward to trying out Schap's TouchXperience though!
that's work very nice
now we must wait for TFL3D tasks and who knows how this thing will be
this works great with the manila2D with the touch. One question though. The script kills the manila2D very quickly, but it does take several seconds for it to run it; any way of speeding that up?
thanks for the script
work very well
thanks for the script. great work
As Leekg has mentioned you can use TF3D and SPB Shell together.
I have left TF3D as it is and installed the SPB Shell as well. On the home screen have reprogrammed one of the Soft keys to SPB Menu -- touching that takes me to the Shell. Closing it brings me back to TF3D!
I do have a question though -- is there any way of changing the default msic player to windows media?
Hi, I gues if there is a task switcher to move from one opened apps to another without going to the home key... liche with the little drop down you have in the top right corner. Maybe I can access it even when it's not displayed but I don't know how...
thank you for the help...
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Hi, I gues if there is a task switcher to move from one opened apps to another without going to the home key... liche with the little drop down you have in the top right corner. Maybe I can access it even when it's not displayed but I don't know how...
thank you for the help...
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There is a really nice one with SPB Pocket Plus, but it is not free. It looks a lot like the alt-tab switcher in windows XP
kimusan said:
There is a really nice one with SPB Pocket Plus, but it is not free. It looks a lot like the alt-tab switcher in windows XP
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Do you use it? Have you mapped it onto a hardware button?
(if so, how?!)
This tool was so useful for me on my Prophet... indeed it felt so integrated I forgot it wasn't part of the OS and was taken aback when I suddenly found it missing on the Diamond!
Mathew
Here it is.
shayd said:
Here it is.
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Hmm this one combined with the G sensor could be really nice
taski switcher - task manager
I'd rather prefer a task switcher - task manager like xperia panels (or like aspecto software's dynamo 2) with ehanced graphics and nice 3d view...
Would it be possible on diamond? anyone can develop something like that?
Cheers
The best task manager (IMHO) is without a doubt WKtask:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
Works just like windows then.. can switch between running apps quickly and easily with a single touch.
Radix999 said:
The best task manager (IMHO) is without a doubt WKtask:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
Works just like windows then.. can switch between running apps quickly and easily with a single touch.
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but only if you have the task bar in view.
ex: if you are in navigation full mode, then you haven't a taskbar. so how do you want to switch with obe single click ?
i use searching for a small tool which switch to all tasks with a hardware button - so it had to be a single programm which switch - it is not necessary to show windows, blabla, ---- only switch ...
if i found a perfect tool or another one guy - let me know - thanks
cu camel
The Alt-Tab feature of SPB Pocket Plus will be right up your street...
...however you may find it is a dead end thanks to the Diamond's dire hardware button facilities... not only there not that many of them but tapping into them appears to be full of troubles!
Mathew
spb plus - alt-tab also not working corect - it switch sometimes in different directions to the task
it's like
Task A,B,C,D,E
1.) first press A
if you press then in the short time next the hardware button then it's switch to B, C, aso
but if you wait 2 sec. then it's switching from C -> B -> A -> E
it's a little bit crazy
PLS: i talk about the "switch to next task" -> because this is almost perfect (relly fast, but wrong/serious directions)
I'm looking for a task manager that I can launch with a hard button with the help of AEButton,
in which I can scroll though my open programs using the scroller not the touch screen and close each in turn or close all.
I've tried a lot and they all either;
- They dont have the facility to use the buttons as a scroller, touch only.
- They cant be launched to open using a hardware button, as in the program launches but all I get is the little cross, dot button appear in the top right of my today screen, not actually open the task manager.
- Or they dont have the facility to close all apps.
there must be a simple little program that does this, and im starting to feel like i've tried them all...
I can distantly remember using a version on RomEOS 1.2.1 but cant find any reference to it, it allowied me to 'check' each program and close them, and launched as an actual program, rather than enabling a cross on my today screen. And it wasn;t HTC Taskmanager.
Any suggestions you lovely people? I think one handed PPC use is they way to go and this is frustraiting me.
Install SPB Pocket Plus
Soft reset
Go to Settings-Buttons
Assign "Alt-Tab" on any button you want.
Press button, see all open prg's and scroll with the wheel to the one you want, press wheel and you are there.
Hi,
ever tried WkTask (freeware) ?
Quickmenu does the trick for me. Much better than WKTask. Also freeware. X button closes the app, gives a PC feel to menus and you don't ever have to use stylus.
Thanks for the replies
tried both WKTask and Quickmenu, but evenually settles on HandySwitcher, turned out to be a bonus that you can customise the colours, since i have a white background and couldn't read the white text on the menu.
Success!
Why wouldn't you use the task switching part of phoneAlarm?
You can set the default function to the switcher and be managing open tesks with 2 button pushes.
I second Quickmenu. Once you click the exe once it'll auto start after soft resets. Goto the settings and customize the startmenu the way you want. I set mine up to have Running programs first and that set to be shown as submenu and then it allows you the close one or close all feature, quickmenu popout second, then a break and then program, settings, and office folders all set to submenus and then my regular programs as links below. I can control it all with my finger or with the jog dial. Retains your windows TSK theme and if you set it to replace windows start menu it is like the other never existed. Excellent program and very lightweight. To fix the text issue I use UI Tweaker. Also helps me match the color to my TSK better. Just my personal preference.
I just got my Fuze last week and I have seen TONS of awesome threads (thanks XDA!) but I haven't come across anything solid to replace the task manager that came with the stock rom (I haven't installed a new rom because there isn't one that jumps out at me). I had Celetask on my Dash and loved it. Anyone have any suggestions/recommendations? While Celetask was awesome on the Dash, I don't really feel like paying for the English PPC version.
I'm using HandySwitcher.
How do you disable the stock one?
Looks like I am just going to have to live with it.
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Looks like I am just going to have to live with it.
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You can shut it off by going to Settings > System > Task Manager > Button. Uncheck both boxes and then you can install a variety of other task managers.
I am using Implicit Software's Task Manager and Switcher. I really like on my Fuze because I have a little button at the top of each screen that let's me switch to any open app. There is also the 3D task manager which you can assign to a hardware button and it will rotate to each task.
I use pBar - it's a great little task manager.
I personally like Wktask. It's light and very functional. You can set it to a hardware button (which can't be done with HTC X-button) and bring up a quicklauncher menu with things like Close, Close All, Toggle Data Conn, and programs from Start Menu.
WkTask is the best with no contest.... http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
And I see they have a new version out!!!
WkTask gives you running application buttons to your start bar, like in your normal windows pc. And thats among other things and functions it does....
Ditto for WkTask
DeepThought said:
I'm using HandySwitcher.
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I second that. I'm also using HandySwitcher and it's really good!
thedogger said:
I use pBar - it's a great little task manager.
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Does it actually work on your Touch Pro? I tried it and it slowed TF3D to a crawl.
I think WkTask is the best! Usr it my self
Loco5150 said:
WkTask is the best with no contest.... http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
And I see they have a new version out!!!
WkTask gives you running application buttons to your start bar, like in your normal windows pc. And thats among other things and functions it does....
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I like Wktask, but it has a strange quirk to it when TF2D or TF3D is enabled. In the task bar, there is a generic window icon that I can't seem to remove or hide when Wktask is enabled. Does anybody else have this problem?
Dramacydle said:
I like Wktask, but it has a strange quirk to it when TF2D or TF3D is enabled. In the task bar, there is a generic window icon that I can't seem to remove or hide when Wktask is enabled. Does anybody else have this problem?
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tap and hold on it and click "hide always"
A while back, i started off with the HTC Task Manager and then switched to Wisbar Lite. With HTC's neweset Task Manager, i went with it instead of Wisbar Lite.
Are there any finger-friendly solutions other than the HTC manager?
WKTask's built in brightness control doesn't work on Raphael, at least not when I tested a few weeks back. Anybody have luck getting that to work?
EDIT: version 1200a brightness control works!
thedocrn said:
tap and hold on it and click "hide always"
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Thanks! That did it.
OT Is anybody else as weirded out as I am by the Charlie Manson avatar Loco5150 has? OT
I am torn at which TM to use now, I guess I'll try them all and see how it goes!
Hi, i'm deciding what to do with my task manager. (on stock WM6.1 HTC H3G Aus Rom)
At present im simply using the HTC Task Manager 1.51 (build 33547) but am aware that there is 2.1 around.
Currently i have to toggle back to the today screen to switch applications and i have it set to click X to close the application. (i dont know whether or not apps use more resources if they are left open and not set to run in the background,any ideas?)
I want to know what others are using or their thoughts/experiences on these other Task managers. gleaned from Vibranze post here
vibranze said:
Guys,
For summary, I've created the list of plugins/task manager that can effectively close the applications.
Commercial
1. SPB Pocket Plus - http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/?en
2. Wisbar Advance / Wisbar Lite - http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/
3. HandySwitcher - http://www.dinarsoft.com/handyswitcher/
Freeware
3. smclose - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml (It's not a Task Manager but a utility to do real close).
4. vBar - http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
5. tMan - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/tman.shtml
6. MagicButton - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/magicbutton.shtml
7. Switch - http://www.hfrmobile.com/app_Switch_T1/index.htm
8. pBar - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284952
9. GSPocketMagi++ - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/gspocketmagic.shtml
10. Small Menu - http://www.tillanosoft.com/ce/smenu.html
11. Quickmenu - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340352http://www.yonsm.net/attachment.php?f=attachment/QuickMenu.rar (so far this is the best Start Menu replacement and task manager I can find, kudos to Nanling!)
12. IcBar - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/icbar.shtml
13. wisBar - http://walkers.ne.jp/ce00_wisbar.htm
14. WkTASK - http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
This is what I found so far, feel free to add in to the list if you know others.
Cheers,
Vibranze
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HTC seems to improve ONLY the look and feel of their task manager from version to version so upgrading to a new version of HTC task manager will give you a different, possibly improved, look and feel. also, if you intend to use manila (2d or 3d), you'll need to use a newer version of HTC task manager.
finally, search for "Task Facade" developed right here on xda by gps-lover. its an EXCELLENT task manager that i suggest you map to the PTT button...makes "visual" task switching a breeze!
TaskFascade looks interesting. Does it disable the HTC Taskmanager?
I use WK Task and swear by it. It creates a PC type program manager and launcher on your phone. Has many more features and is very customizable.
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
GLO said:
TaskFascade looks interesting. Does it disable the HTC Taskmanager?
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nope! thats the beauty of it...you get to keep HTC's task manager (with its tap "x" to kill or tap and hold "x" to kill functionality as well as its presence in the home screen) while task facade can be invoked just by pressing the hot key you've assigned to it (i use the short press of the PTT button)
not 100% sure but i think task facade can work with ANY task manager that sits in the home screen (such task managers usually take over the "x" button functionality)
I use QuickMenu+DotFred's TaskMgr.exe, check this post for the way to associate them.
From QuickMenu, you got a task switcher, communication manager, commandline utility, RAM releaser, a lot of useful shortcuts and a real time indicator of battery + available RAM. And it is a very lite tool uses around 130kb RAM on running.
As to DotFred's Taskmanager:
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A lot of long time member and cooks have DotFred's Taskamanager in the toolkit.
Some Taskmanagers do not show ALL running programs.
Dot Fred's does more, shows Processes that can be enalbed and disabled at Start or stop them actively. Has a registry editor, Notification editor, can parse Provisioning xml files and even register DLL files. It's a Tweakers dream.
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I also use VJOkbutt, I set the function of 'X' button to 'short press to minimize & long press to close'. I use HButton to map the Ok button work in this way: just press = minimize (the ok/close function in hbutton actually = short press 'X'), press & hold half second = close (VJOkButt), hold another half second = end others (brought by QuickMenu), another more half second = end all (from QM), and another half second = soft reset (by QM or TaskMgr), and then the last function = Today (by QM or HButton).
To switch tasks, just using QM.
How can I assign a hot key to Task Facade? Can't find any config tool or menu...
arkaninger said:
How can I assign a hot key to Task Facade? Can't find any config tool or menu...
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Via Settings\Buttons and if you want to be able to map even more check this program AE Button Plus
For Task Manager i used Advanced Task Manager 0.7 and have it happed with AE Button Plus
I am using FDCsoft Task Manager v3.1 I think it is a good TM
thanks for this great post dude.
directly to my bookmarks.