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Turn on touch diamond by "Touching" the center button on d-pad

since the center button on the dpad is heat sensitive, I think it would be great if it was possible to turn it on by touching it, or by doing a circle gesture, like zooming in opera.. I really hate the top button, It keeps turning on my phone in my pocket, and I dont like to lock my phone.. also, when in hand, its difficult to press....
I hope this idea could be made into reality...

Just being able to wakeup the phone using anything other than the top button or stylus would be great!
I swear that top button is going to wear out! It doesn't have as much push in it as any other button on the phone..

My diamond wakes up on hitting the center button.. or any of the hardware buttons.
the stylus wake is cool too, but not always feasible.
Start - Settings - System
Key Lock
When device is off:
I selected DO NOT LOCK BUTTONS
Works fine for me

pcharouz said:
since the center button on the dpad is heat sensitive...
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It is?

darthbane2k said:
It is?
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ya can u not tell with camera focusing ?

boinger66 said:
ya can u not tell with camera focusing ?
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LOL - all this time and ive not taken a picture yet.

boinger66 said:
ya can u not tell with camera focusing ?
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Just tried the camera!
Oh my gosh! Its awesome! Love the wirring of the auto focus!

L o r d R a j said:
My diamond wakes up on hitting the center button.. or any of the hardware buttons.
the stylus wake is cool too, but not always feasible.
Start - Settings - System
Key Lock
When device is off:
I selected DO NOT LOCK BUTTONS
Works fine for me
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You legend! Thanks for that, its been driving me crazy! lol
-Lew

L o r d R a j said:
My diamond wakes up on hitting the center button.. or any of the hardware buttons.
the stylus wake is cool too, but not always feasible.
Start - Settings - System
Key Lock
When device is off:
I selected DO NOT LOCK BUTTONS
Works fine for me
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thnx that was i looking 4

Happy to help

Sweet! Now I use any keypad buttons to turn on, and use G-sen to turn off by facing the phone downwards.
No more using the top button. True for me too.. the button seems to have been submerged more..

well, enabeling all the hardware buttons doesnt help much either, since they can be easily pushed in our pockets... still waiting for some of our awsome developers to come by, and figure something out with the center button, a gesture would be really cool, because I would have to worry about locking my phone

Sushilange, I believe is working on the shake application..
one of the most requested by the users (including myself) being shake to wake
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406921&highlight=released

lol.. shake to wake seems like a nice feature, but you dont think it will turn on in your pocket? even cooler would be if it could turn on with the light sensor, so you could just take it out of your pocket and it would be on but this wouldnt work in the dark
Edit: I am glad there is a lot of interest on this topic...

I am still hopeful about Shake to Wake
Don't think it would be turning on in the pocket.. unless you are running..
but anyways.. beats pressing the power button.. any day!

hm, I can agree that turning a phone on with a center button gesture would be the most stylish way, shaking a phone is just stupid.

How do you set up gsen to shut off the phone by facing it downwards???

pcharouz said:
since the center button on the dpad is heat sensitive,
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FYI, it’s not heat sensitive, it’s capacitive. Although heat could also change the capacitance and still register as a touch!

Ha! When I bought it I would touch (not press) the centre button and it would wake up. I installed Bepe's ROM right away, and this functionality was lost - I then thought that it was just my idea in the first place!
Now I read the above posts and it seems that indeed you should be able to wake th device up by *touching* the centre button - how do I enable it back? And yes, "no lock" is enabled in Power Key Lock settings...

but if i want to block all buttons except central one?

Have hardware buttons working (for 3rd app) when S2U2 active?

I'm trying to use Conduits Pocket Player with S2U2 version (1.13), and I'd like to have the hardware buttons (at least volume buttons) working even when S2U2 is active and locks the screen...
There are options in the player to allow buttons mapping even when screen is "locked" or when app is in background, but it looks like the "lock" intended by this app is not S2U2's lock...
I don't know if I made myself clear, but any help would be great!
Thanks!

hantoucc said:
I'm trying to use Conduits Pocket Player with S2U2 version (1.13), and I'd like to have the hardware buttons (at least volume buttons) working even when S2U2 is active and locks the screen...
There are options in the player to allow buttons mapping even when screen is "locked" or when app is in background, but it looks like the "lock" intended by this app is not S2U2's lock...
I don't know if I made myself clear, but any help would be great!
Thanks!
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S2U2 doesn't work very well with Diamond..at least a while ago when i tried it and finally got it set up the way i wanted, i noticed the home button wasn't locked. It doesn't lock the homebutton.. so it's kinda useless..
Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?

I don't think so.
It is totally useful to lock the screen. To have backlight off but screen on, to have it on but still locked when you touch the screen, in order to see what time it is, and other usages.
I personally never accidentally unlock my phone by using hard buttons, and furthermore do need them to be unlocked to use them while the phone is in my pocket.

djind said:
S2U2 doesn't work very well with Diamond..at least a while ago when i tried it and finally got it set up the way i wanted, i noticed the home button wasn't locked. It doesn't lock the homebutton.. so it's kinda useless..
Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?
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Yes you can, lock the home key

Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?
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What auto-lock config are you exactly talking about ?

No no no ?

hantoucc said:
What auto-lock config are you exactly talking about ?
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I misread your post.. I meant the autolock feature by holding down the end call button.. but it doesn't make any sense, cuz i misread ..
I used to untill I found out it doesn't lock the homebutton. But i might use it if it does now..
Sorry.. couldn't be of any help..
edit: I read something there about custom mapping sound control..maybe it'll help.. first post, all the way down.. but you should ask your question there .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
edit2: installing s2u2 will make side volume control button useless.. so maybe that's it.. check the above link

Sergio PC said:
Yes you can, lock the home key
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How?? Speak!!

[sticky!!!!] The "answer Only With Hw Buttons" option or similar solution...

[sticky!!!!] The "answer Only With Hw Buttons" option or similar solution...
...a lot to read... and a lot of solutions!
thank you guys!

Just an Idea... maybe its possible to set the Touchscreen sensitivity to VERY low everytime there is incoming Phone call. And then you cant accidentially press one of the onscreen buttons. However, i think registry entries only change after a softreset. MAybe there is some workaround?

this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.

I'm willing to pay the money saved in missed calls in one week. It could be a lot, for sure...

Agreed! it would be a great feature to have

diamondino said:
this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.
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Well actually i meant it a different way. Imagine.. There is an incoming Call... This call is recognized, and the touch sensitivity is set to very low. After the call is done, or the call is taken, the sensitivity is restored..

yep... but i suggest this like a second try....
the easiest way is to create a new phone skin.
the best is a "only hw buttons" option
i can't believe to the drink beer app... useless but true... and nothing about this bug... it's incredible.

I would be satisfied to have ALL the hardware keys to be locked during incoming calls and the screen locked and need to unlock the screen with ie a slide before be able to answer... As the hardware buttons also is easy to press when it's in the pocket when your sitting etc.

diamondino said:
I think we're half a million to damn this bug.
WE ALL NEED to lock the screen buttons.
WE ARE BORED of losing calls or answer accidentally taking out the diamond from our pockets.
WE NEED A SOLUTION.
WE DON'T WANT S2U2 AS A WORKAROUND.
HELP US.
AND YOU'LL BE REWARDED.
['cos right now... we still spending money on calls we miss. s##t.]
support this thread.
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I don't get it. My on/off button is set to lock all other buttons when the device is off, apparently meaning the display. At calls the display is off after a few seconds and I have two choices to bring it back - push the on/off or remove the stylo causing notes to launch. Hence the only insident where I can see a problem is when the display is trickered to go on (alarm or incoming call) and it's way down the bag you may push something. Here I suspect the solution is to have it in a pouch. Anyway, I have seen many yields about this so i'll surely be victimised one day as well.

Its a really challenging app to make.
Think about it. How can u lock the keys yet mantain the ability to answer anytime with one button.
Tough call

maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on

emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons

pcharouz said:
what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons
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touch he screen to go on

emilceteras said:
touch he screen to go on
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then were back to square one were it dials lol

cornelious2 said:
then were back to square one were it dials lol
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No, touching the screen will not bring the screen ON, the only thing that will bring the screen ON is pressing a hard key.
It's an excellent idea to make the light sensor feel if it's in the dark, and if so shut down the screen, the only problem is that nobody knows how to reliably do this for all ROMs (even official).

Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10

1 a new phone skin without any buttons is the easiest solution i guess
2 changing the sensibility pressure works only on soft reset
3 light sensor... nice, but i don't think it's the best way to do this
isn't a predefined "lock screen" function on the diamond?
i'm a developer but i dunno nothing about pda application... i think it's weird if no one thought to a simple "block screen" function.

emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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pouch....hated the thing...go on
i don't think many people are using the pouch now there is more choice

counterfitninja said:
Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10
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take this thread like an official request...

anyway, IF anyone konws how to work for developing a new phone skin... i'll do it. but i'm not into pda since this diamond and i dunno where to start...

several problems with diamond

hi all,
i do have several problems with my diamond, first of all i am using an offical rom by htc its 2.03.xxx and the manila of the hd
to come to my problems i am giving u a list of problems which i were not able to solve:
1. nearly each day my diamond dials into the internet to check for email, but i didnt
2.sometimes it happens that when i am getting my diamond out of the pocket he asks me whether i am sure to turn the diamond off or not, but i didnt push the off button, especially not that long
3.the touchfield below the display is just usable with my fingers, not with the stylus or something like this, but earlier it did work with finger and stylus
4.very often it happens that when i am called that my diamond just take off the telephone call(which is nearly impossible becuase i do have the slider and to press the field down it needs very much which isnt existing in my pocket)
5. when i am controlling my volummne i have often problems that the systemloudness is very loud but the ringtone loudness stays on silent or turns on silent
i do not prefer to have a hardreset as a solution because than i would have to made all the vocabulary again

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1. nearly each day my diamond dials into the internet to check for email, but i didnt
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Check the config of the mail app. Maybe you've got the 'check for new mail every X minutes' enabled.
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2.sometimes it happens that when i am getting my diamond out of the pocket he asks me whether i am sure to turn the diamond off or not, but i didnt push the off button, especially not that long
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Sure you press the ON/OFF button accidentally...
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3.the touchfield below the display is just usable with my fingers, not with the stylus or something like this, but earlier it did work with finger and stylus
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Mine doesn't work with stylus, so...
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4.very often it happens that when i am called that my diamond just take off the telephone call(which is nearly impossible becuase i do have the slider and to press the field down it needs very much which isnt existing in my pocket)
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There's an option that automatically takes the call after a few seconds or rings. Check the phone setup.
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5. when i am controlling my volummne i have often problems that the systemloudness is very loud but the ringtone loudness stays on silent or turns on silent
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When you press the up/down volume, you're modifying the system volume. On top-left of the screen you'll see an arrow. Click it and you could access to the ringtone volume.
Hope it helps.

Is there a Wake up on Touch Screen

Looking for a app that will wake/turn on screen when on sleep mode with a simple touch of the screen.
While Asleep>>>Touch Screen>>>Slide to Unlock
instead of
While Asleep>>>Back/Home or Menu Button>>>>Back/Home or Menu Button to Unlock
Anyone want this? or am I being picky?

its called Lock 2.0

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its called Lock 2.0
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Thanks Johnny,
I know of Lock 2.0 BUT it does NOT wake the screen by a simple touch of the screen.
I am using Hero and would like to keep the slide down lock it comes with.
What I would like is a app that will simply turn the screen on with a touch of the screen so I can then slide down to unlock.

Lakers3408 said:
Thanks Johnny,
I know of Lock 2.0 BUT it does NOT wake the screen by a simple touch of the screen.
I am using Hero and would like to keep the slide down lock it comes with.
What I would like is a app that will simply turn the screen on with a touch of the screen so I can then slide down to unlock.
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isn't that kind of the point of the screen being off? i turn it off so that i'm not hitting "buttons" in my pocket like i did with other phones

tubaking182 said:
isn't that kind of the point of the screen being off? i turn it off so that i'm not hitting "buttons" in my pocket like i did with other phones
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Yes I understand that, but have you noticed that the screen ONLY responds to the HUMAN touch. You can NOT use a stylus or anything other than your finger/skin. So having it in your pocket with say keys or what not will not activate the screen.

don't think thats possible,
if it did, it would BE A HUGE BATTERY DRAINER.
good luck finding one =) , i think your over your mind with this app lol.

johnnylicious said:
don't think thats possible,
if it did, it would BE A HUGE BATTERY DRAINER.
good luck finding one =) , i think your over your mind with this app lol.
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Really... I dont see it that way, but then again im not a app developer
I dont see the difference in having a app that will replace the need to hit a button(call,menu,home or back) with touching the screen.

I've had my phone in my pocket with the screen accidently on and have had all kinds of buttons pressed from inside my pocket, so I personally wouldn't have a use for that app. But if it works for you, I hope someone makes it for you.

The difference is you'd have to poll the touchscreen constantly for any input, where as the buttons don't us any power until they're pressed and the circuit is completed.
I'm not an app developer either. I'm also not retarded. Just because you don't know the inner workings of an operating system doesn't mean that you're allowed to ignore physics and common sense.

Lakers3408 said:
Yes I understand that, but have you noticed that the screen ONLY responds to the HUMAN touch. You can NOT use a stylus or anything other than your finger/skin. So having it in your pocket with say keys or what not will not activate the screen.
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altho it only responds to human touch, it does detect touch through thin clothing, so if you put it in your pocket, it will still press the screen.

The system is set to stop polling the screen once its off. The system will not respond to touch while it is off. The support for this would have to be built into a ROM I believe