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flashed charmer with wizard...an now its totally dead...cant enter boot....anyone can help...
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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complitely dead...not powering...cant enter boot...
hmm, it looks bad. I don't have any valuable ideas...but:
maybe you may try to charge battery in another charmer. When I bought my one, directly after unpacking the box, it wasnť able to start. I was angry, but then ve have tried to charge the battery in my friend's charmer and it worked (the battery was not completely discharged, but maybe some electronics inside was somehow blocked)
otherwise, you can try to diagnose electric circuits inside - but do it carefully, you may easily damage it!
speaker charmer
it has production defect. the HTC has knowledge of this... and is about one reparation in warranty. [[]]
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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I have a problem with my mda compact II and it was almost like describe.
after i tried to upgrade my pda, the update went to the end and finished successfully, the pda doesn't turn on, it shows the t-mobile image and then goes off, if i press camera button and turn on button i can see the tree colors, but what should i do now?
help me please.
use official t-mobile rom (in t mobile official page, difficult to find, get the link from the XDA-Wiki).
1. put your charmer into the 3 colour screen mode
2. kill your activesync in your PC (or just disable USB link)
3. run the EXE of the offical ROM
Do it before your battery went dead.
hanmin said:
use official t-mobile rom (in t mobile official page, difficult to find, get the link from the XDA-Wiki).
1. put your charmer into the 3 colour screen mode
2. kill your activesync in your PC (or just disable USB link)
3. run the EXE of the offical ROM
Do it before your battery went dead.
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But my pda just shows for 3 seconds the 3 color screen, perhaps my batery went down..
i was trying to update from a t mobile update...
dammm
how can i try to put original again if i can him on?
regards
if i conect with the power cable i can go to the 3 color screen, but how can i put the original rom?
the mda must be syncronize with activesync? if i take off power cable e shut down, with the power cable on, if i try a normal start is allways restarting...
ideas?
After9 said:
if i conect with the power cable i can go to the 3 color screen, but how can i put the original rom?
the mda must be syncronize with activesync? if i take off power cable e shut down, with the power cable on, if i try a normal start is allways restarting...
ideas?
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try leaving it off with the battery in and plugged in for about an hour to see if you can get a charge, otherwise use another battery that is fully charged. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
also you do not need an activesync link to install ruu rom packages. also long as your in bootloader with usb showing in the corner, the ruu will be able to find it.
dave106 said:
try leaving it off with the battery in and plugged in for about an hour to see if you can get a charge, otherwise use another battery that is fully charged. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
also you do not need an activesync link to install ruu rom packages. also long as your in bootloader with usb showing in the corner, the ruu will be able to find it.
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i'm using another charge battery 100% but in the 3 color screen is allways rebooting, so i can connect the usb cable.
i just can see the 3 color stable with the power cable.
Can i connect directly to pins where battery connects?
can i install in bootloader from sd card?
well, now i can turn on the bootloader but when i'm trying to install the rom from t-mobile gives me some errors in the nk.nbf...
what should i do?
it stays on 1% and give me error 326 invalid command...
Help Please
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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I Have the problem whit de boot, is stay in tree color.
I have do the hard reset and the soft reset and donth work.
canth you help.
I have the cingular 8125
claroscuro: First of all, this is not 8125. Second of all, just flash an official rom while in bootloader mode.
RUU via SD card + only power cable plugged in
[. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
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i have similar problem how can u use SD RUU when power cable is attached and mda compact 2 is in 3 coloured bootable screen.
i have a fully cahrged batter but mda is not detecting battery, mda only start+ bootable mode when power cable is plugged in( battery is 100% charger in another MDA but MDA is not recognising battery.
PLZ help
You can buy an adapter for charmer in which you can insert USB cable, power cord and headphones jack.
can you please recommend what it is called as search for MDA COMPACT 2 USB cable, power cord and headphones jack on ebay doesnot come up with any thing.
Cheers
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MDA-Compact-I...6191840QQihZ018QQcategoryZ56166QQcmdZViewItem
do u mean this item, i am not sure from description if it can sync using a usb cable at the same time being charged by main power source.
Have the same problem
HI, I have the same problem, and even with the battery been on charge for a full day, as soon as a try the updates it comes back saying there is under 50% charge. When I try in the sync holder with power as soon as the USB is connected it powers off.
Did you find a answer to the problem ?
Cheers
TBW
this is nothing , my friend , MY BATTERY DOES NOT EVEN CHARGE AT ALL
IT IS NOTE DETECTED AT ALL.
i have tried fooling the device by using the cradle with power supply and usb connected with pc but it neither cahrges the device nor it is deted=cted by the pc.
I posted this question before, but no one answered. But this problem drives me crazy!
My Kaiser turned off when the battery was running out.
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
The problem is, it can't boot into OS due to low battery(it only shows "Smart Mobility", but can't even enter bootloader mode) And only if it boots into OS successfully, it can be charged.
Anyone met this problem on any other devices before?
How can I stop auto boot when charging?
What can I do?
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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Thanks
I use the ROM from this forum
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship
What is yours?
I'm just using the stock AT&T Tilt rom.
Here's the fix!
Yes, I've had the same problem a few times on my Vario (Wizard). Very annoying.
Here's what to do:
- Take a mini-usb cable (the one you use for sync and charging from a PC) and cut off the mini-USB connector
- Strip the wires
- Take the battery out of your TyTN
- Carefully connect the ground wire (black) with the ground connector (-) on the battery. Fix it with clear tape.
- Now do the same with the (+) (red wire).
- Attach the USB cable to a running PC and let the battery charge for about an hour. After that, put it back in your phone, you'll be able to boot it up and charge it the regular way.
Yes, it costs you a cable, but it solves the problem.
dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely. So if you really run your battery out completely and there is not enough power in your battery to boot up the phone (read: it turns off again before the boot has completed) you won't be able to charge it the regular way. SOMETIMES a heavier charger (2A) does seem to be able to charge the battery even with the OS shut down, but most of the times it won't work anymore... see below for fix.
SteRo said:
I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely.
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That's not how I read the original post:
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
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Based on this, it sounds like it is starting to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up, then crashes because there's not enough power(??)
But if the problem IS that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded, that is also not how my phone operates. In fact, that even goes against the manual, which tells you to plug the phone in (without turning on the phone) and let it charge fully for the initial charge before turning on the phone and allowing it to boot.
Sorry if I misunderstand, but neither way is how my phone operates... it can charge without the OS loaded, and the phone does not automatically boot once power is applied.
Not sure I fully understand what's going on here but, I am wondering if the power on/off button is stuck in (i.e the micro-switch is clicked in and not releasing). I cannot think of any other reason the device would turn on when connecting the charger if the device is powered completely off. ( Except perhaps shorted connections in the Usb port)
Mike
To SteRo:
Thx a lot for the solution, I tried, but still doesn't work.(I charge it more than 2 hours, and still can't boot into OS)
To mikechannon:
yes, it happened. :-( the power on/off button is NOT stucked. And the device is powered off completely.
To All:
Thx for your reply. What I mean is almost what dscline said:
It starts to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up(around 15 sec after I plugin power), meanwhile orange LED is off. But it can't load into OS, just re-boot again and again because there's no enough battery. That makes it's impossible to charge, 'coz it's only charged when the OS has loaded completely.
Anyway, I called customer service to ask them replace the battery. I may try to use different ROM and see what will happen. I'll post the result here.
It's also possible that it has nothing to do with the battery or charging at all. I just checked mine, and the charging indicator is lit with the unit off, but it does go out for a bit during the boot processes, then comes back on again. So what you're seeing with the charging light is normal. It may simply be that there's something corrupted, or some other failure with the device, that is causing it to not boot properly, and get stuck in a reboot loop. If so, it will probably do the same thing with a completely charged battery. You may have just been assuming that it was related to a low charge.
That's what I'm worry about,, Coz I can't boot it by SteRo's solution.
okay... they say trouble comes in three's...
Yesterday I flew to Asia, 20-hours with a full charge. No suprises during the trip. Checked email from Narita during the layover, no prob. But after I arrived in Taipei I received the low battery warning. Plugged in my usb-to-usb (notebook to kaiser) cable and "no charge light"!
This morning I plugged it into a ac battery charger and waited for >10 minutes, still no charge light.
Now, at the risk of a battery, I'm attempting to charge the battery removed from the kaiser using the previous mentioned method. In an hour I'll test it.
This afternoon I'll pick up a new battery charger and spare battery.
In 14-months with my trusty TyTN (cht9000) I never once had a problem like this... I'm a little bummed right now...
[update]
okay -- battery is okay and can be charged externally (using the two wire method or an external battery charger). BUT... the device still won't take a charge using either a direct AC adapter or a USB cord. This was also retested after performing a hard-reset. Not a good sign folks.
The charger works (connected to a Trinity), so it's not the problem. They battery works (charged to 45% after 45-minutes connected to an external battery charger). The HTC OS after a clean hard-reset used to work but now doesn't, so it's unlikely it's software related.
I've made no other modifications to the bootloader or SSPL... everything is original stock. Wish I had my TyTN with me right about now...
Sounds like something I had on my previous TyTN:
The power connector was a bit flaky on my charger at home. So when I'd hookup the powerlead it would charge to 10 secs or so and then no longer charge. I had to put some pressure on the connector to have it continue to charge. So I put a ballpen on the powerlead, just under the phone, when charging.
It's a long shot - hope of use. When you've connected the phone to power, and the orange light goes off, try wiggeling the connector a bit - see if that helps.
Hope of use.
Re
OK,
I've got excactly the same problems... I dont want to make you illusions, but you cant solve it and you need to send it back for repair. Your usb connecter on your tytn is broken...
first i will tell my story...
My tytn did excactly the same, shows the led, powers on automatically (normally it don't do that, so it;s not a rom issue) and then powered down in the smart mobility screen. I tried 4 chargers, and 2 battery's. with a full battery it will power on and load windows, but unable to charge. with the empty battery it will power down in the smart mobility screen. soft reset, hard reset, it won't work.
You can check if it's the same problem, by attaching it to your usb on your computer and call up the bootscreen by pressing the camera button and stick your stylus in the soft reset hole. If it comes up with serial instead of usb, then your device usb connector is broken.
BUT, you can charge your battery in a very strange way i figured out. since i am on a buisness trip i need my phone and don't send it back!!!!!
ok, this is what you have to do, plug in the powercable, call the hard reset screen BUT DON'T APPLY!!!! you will notice it will not power down, so just leave it on this screen for a night with the cable connected. you don't see the charging light, but actually it is charging. for me this temporarely solution works fine... but when i'm back in about seven weeks i send it in for repair.
Hope this will help you!
Swiftgs:
Many thanks for your insight -- you are correct, in bootloader mode the Serial shows instead of USB. I just purchased a spare battery (1100mAh, made in Taiwan) and battery charger for US$17. It'll get me through my business trip, but this is disappointing. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I used a TyTN for 14-months (July 2006 to Sept 2007) as my primary phone, recharging it daily via the USB connector and on a desk charger in my office. I can only conclude that if the USB is physically damaged (not evident visually), then it is not as robust as the USB port used in the original TyTN. The strangest part of all is it worked perfectly until the battery level fell below 10%...
FWIW: I purchased the phone through R&D Marketing. Ron Webber quickly responded to my note and gave me a contact at HTC America. I'll follow-up
after I return and report my experience.
Cheers
well, thanks for all of your replies/infomation.
I tried evey possible methods mentioned above, unfortunatelly none of them works :-(
and the most depressed thing is I filnally get a new battery, but it still doesn't work!
So I sent it back to repair, cross figure...
It works
I would like to thanx 2 SteRo for his advice. I am using Qtek 9000 and had the same problem. Battery was empty, and I tried many times to turn on my PPC, but without success. All the time when red light appeared after 10-15 sec display become black and tried to restart from boot again, and it's happened many times. Finally I thought that I just can trow my Qtek, but seeing your recommendation decided to try. I took USB cable cut it and strap the wires. Connecting red on (+) and black on (-) after 1 hour charging I was able to start my PPC, to recharge battery by 100% and it is working now OK. I must check duration of the battery tomorrow, because reason why I discharged battery was automatic turn off of my PPC when it was on around 45-50% battery capacity. Tomorrow I will check how it's working when I recharge battery again.
Dear SteRo you are the king.
Shortly: I flashed a new rom (not so new... Mameli 2.0 with WM6.1) and the upgrade process stuck on 99%, computer saying "All Done"
No so... trying to reboot the Wizard gets up the bootloader screen... no problem, will you say BUT... I was in a hurry so I leave the USB cable connected and go away for a few hours (I suppose the USB cable may keep powered the device but now I guess no... )
So, when I came back, the Wizard was turned off.
First try was soft resetting the device with no success: screen remains black.
Then I try to connect the power supply and nothing happened...
Then I pull off the battery and keep it off for a few seconds... I was googling with the device in this state when the bootloader screen pops up for not more then 15 seconds then blank again...
No way to enter bootloader mode or to hard reset the device...
I suppose the battery goes almost flat... and I've not a cradle... is there any way to charge the battery? or a way to build up a cradle-substitute?
May be the issue due to battery flat?
Thanks, Pino
Try plugging in to the original charger, not a USB cable, with the power off.
After about a minute you should see the orange LED turn on.
At least that has worked for me when my battery has been dead.
Nothing... It was already done... I suppose the charging doesn't happen if the OS didn't load... even if I read about some stating that if the charger supplies 1.0A the charge happens...
Now I'm trying to charge the battery with "alternatives" methods...
Thank you for your interest
and so?!?!?
So much lurking... noone writing?
Ideas welcome....
I've done something similar to this too, i.e., where battery gets so low that phone cannot start charging cycle.
Here is what I have done. Take note on the battery of the positive and negative terminals (clearly marked on battery). Use a regular 9V battery and some wire (or 9V connector) and connect the 9V to the phone battery (+ to + and - to -). Allow the phone battery to recharge some from the 9V. I suggest connecting for about 1 minute or so and then disconnecting again for 1 minute or so, and repeat this cycle a dozen times or (or more) using this 50% duty cycle charging. (not sure about charging current, nor heating of battery and don't want to overheat or damage the phone battery).
After giving the phone battery some (re)charging, then try plugging phone in to see if charging cycle comes on. (try first without trying to turn on the phone. If no response then try turning phone on while plugged in to USB). Generally makes no difference whether using USB plugged into computer, original charger or after market, ... phone does not, nor cannot discriminate between different 5V 'USB' sources.
If this doesn't work then the next step is to carefully touch the 9 V to the battery while in the phone and connected to USB (and to play this safe use charger, and not computer USB ... don't want to risk damage to computer). I would only try this if you feel extremely comfortable with electronics and voltages (albeit this is very low voltage) and as a last resort. KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL BE DOING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, and I don't want to be blamed for anything that may go wrong with the phone or otherwise by you trying this. This has worked for me on several occassions, but I am an engineer who has experimented with electronic ciruits off and on for 16 + years and so feel comfortable doing stuff like this. (again remember + to + and - to -, battery to battery).
Good Luck
First of all... Thanks for replying...
The problem isn't due to battery too much empty (it's a frequent issue, with mobile phones too...)
I suppose the Wizard needs be correctly initialized to start charging the battery and mine was in bootloader mode.
Sometimes I am able to power up the system for a little while and the bootloader screen appears but the battery doesn't charges so I cannot disconnect the power supply... this is why I suppose I'd get better times if I got a cradle.
Now I'm trying to arrange a flying connection between the battery and my kaiser's desktop charger to give the battery a bit of charge and verify my ipotesys (uh-oh... it's correctly spelled? sorry for my bad english....)
OK, wish me luck
stay tuned...
OK, no more bricked
The issue, as I supposed, was due to a flat battery!!!
I tried unsuccessfully to charge it back using the external charger for my Kaiser, probably the unsuccess was due to difficult to obtain a stable contact between charger pins and battery leads...
After that I remembered I had another battery. It wasn't used for a bit of months (I use the wizard just as backup, when the Kaiser is out of order) but luckily I stored it full charged so the battery was able to make my wizard power up (strange thing, I needed to keep the power button pressed as the device powers down as soon as I release the button!!!)
I tried to update the rom again but it failed at 99% so now I reverted to an old rom but the device is still alive...
Maybe I'll try again the update but not before having fully charged both batteries
See You and thanks to everyone tried to help...
Pino
I have a major problem with my Tilt, when it is off and I plug it in, the phone will not charge and instead just boots up into Windows Mobile. While turned on, the phone will not charge; nothing happens when I plug in the USB cable.
The USB connector *looks* OK, no obviously bent pins or damage compared side by side to other HTC phones, but I'm not an expert with a microscope.
Is this a lost cause or are there things I can try to get the device to charge?
i'm not sure my observations will help you but i noticed the following behavior ONCE...i was too lazy to re-test and confirm my theory, but here goes:
1. if the phone was improperly shut down, the phone would turn on and start booting as soon as i would plug in my wall charger (NON HTC, its a generic Motorola charger). in my case, my device charges fine once the boot up has cleared the boot splash screen.
2. using the usb cable plugged into my pc, the phone would NOT turn on when i would plug in the usb cable. i MIGHT have shut down the phone properly prior to trying this but my memory isn't keeping up with me right now
i guess what i'm trying to say is that i THINK the device is built to turn on the moment a charging source is available, that is if it was improperly shut down.
Thanks for that tip...my Tilt is now plugged in via USB and will charge whether or not it is on or off. I still have to try it with the regular AC adapter, but at least it's not dead!
Edit: Everything is good to go Thx for the tip
I appear to be having wired issues related to the USB port as has been previously reported on the Galaxy S2.
When not plugged in to anything, it constantly says it is charging. It will not let me select between USB debugging mode as it says the cable is connected.
Despite it's belief that it is charging, when I actually plug it in to the mains to charge, it doesnt charge!!
If I power off the device, it shuts down correctly, however it will constantly switch between the grey battery icon, then a almost full green one, then off. It then wont allow me to turn on the device. Ive tried plugging it in to the mains (but I guess that as it wont charge this way, this is why it wont let me turn it on this way either) the only way I can boot it up is holding vol up, middle button and power together for 10 seconds or so. It then goes to CWM recover where I can reboot the device
If I plug in a jig, that allows me to connect a USB flash drive, it all seems to work OK. it no longer says it's charging, and i'm able to mount the drive.
The only way I can actually make it charge, is by plugging in to a PC.
Im very careful with my USB connectors, and I can only think that slight dampness may have entered as the phone has been with me in the bathroom during showers.
I dont want to send my phone in for repair, my first plan is to wait it out and hopefully any moisture dries out. Ive tried cleaning the inside of the USB port, but it makes no difference.
If I changed the USB port myself, a) is that a hard task, b) would it solve my issue?
I had a very similar problem with my note.
Solution was to take out the battery and leave the cover off, in a dry p;ace over night. It could definitely be related to dampness in your phone.